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Assalamu alaikum /pol/. I am white and plan on converting to Islam this Friday. It is the only last stand against degeneracy in the world. I invite you to the truth to worship our creator Allah swt and him alone. Strength comes through Islam, weakness comes through Christianity, Atheism, and Judaism. Come and join the Ummah before it's too late.
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>>70710218
Aleykum selam brother. Welcome to the greatest and most beautiful community of all. But, if you want to be a tru muslim and go to heaven you must only fuck goats and secretly hate kafirs. Don't forget, you are going to blow yourself up too when we decide when are we gonna do our next attack. Good luck.
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>>70710218
but why anon.

why would you ever sign up for a religion that requires you to give up slow smoked baby back ribs, bang your head against the ground five times a day, and model yourself after a pedophile murdering warlord like Muhammad? Your parents not hug you enough?
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>>70710411

pork is unhealthy and Muhammad pbuh wasn't a pedophile.
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I actually did this. Mostly for the reason you outline above. I learnt a lot but ultimately wasted 4 years of my life. You'll never belong in a Muslim community, it's an Ethno Cult essentially. Also, the vast majority of Muslims in the West mouth all these Neo Marxists view points they barely understand (if at all).
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>>70710501
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>>70710394
I wish to become a muslim but I heard I must fuck my cousin which is really hot but that will mess up my offspring.
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>>70710593

you are a liar
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>>70710501
lierally fucked a 9 year old
the fuck you on
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That moment when you decide to be a degenerate
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>organized religion

Fuck you're stupid, buddy.
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>>70710501
at what age was Aisha when Muhammad consummated the marriage?

red wine in small amounts has shown to be beneficial to your health.
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>>70710665
That's a pretty nice flag anon
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>>70710714
>>70710817

No that's a lie. Some hadiths say 18. And even if it was 9, some girls mature earlier than others, especially back then.
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>he believes in the degeneracy meme

Meme magic at work, folks.
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>>70710218
It hurts me seeing American uniforms bowing in Muslim prayer. There is something so wrong with that
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>>70710921

Well it's the fastest growing religion so you better get used to seeing that
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>>70710845
Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger.[1][2] As a medical diagnosis, specific criteria for the disorder extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.[1] A person who is diagnosed with pedophilia must be at least 16 years old, but adolescents must be at least five years older than the prepubescent child for the attraction to be diagnosed as pedophilia.[1][2]
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>>70711056

Which doesn't apply to Muhammad pbuh since he had many wives of different ages, some even really old.
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>>70710845
>even if it was 9, some girls mature earlier than others, especially back then.

literally read that sentence you wrote. how in the hell does that make it ok if they matured earlier.

and even if they were mentally mature, did some evolutionary phenomena happen between 600 ad and today where 9 yr old girls suddenly matured earlier biologically? a 9 yr old girl is a 9 yr old girl today or 4000 years ago, and the fact Muhammad consummated the marriage at 9 and you motherfuckers STILL bang your head against the ground 5 times a day worshipping that sick ideology is disgusting.

>pic related

you in a few years with your stupid looking prayer bump
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>>70710218
You can cut your dick off for what I care.
OP is another proof of the how alienating the USA prison system is.
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>>70711193
Polygamy aside, the fact that he had older wives makes it ok to fuck 9 year olds? Fucking degenerate
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>>70711493

Mary the mother of Jesus was really young as well maybe even around A'ishas age, so. That's just how culture was back then
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>>70710218
Ashallah brother glad you have found the true path to living a moral life
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>>70710845
too bad that the most legit hadiths say she was 9
and no, the islamic apologist meme that girls matured earlier is a hoax
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>>70711551
[citation needed]
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>>70710218
I converted to Islam last year. Depends on who you go to but they normally just get you to raise your hand and say there is no god but god and muhammad is the last prophet in arabic. They generally give you a muslim name too.

I never really drank alcohol or ate bacon much before anyway so it wasn't hard to give up.
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>>70710394
What is the procedure to join Grey Wolves? Test of mental strength?
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>>70710218
Mashallah inshallah
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>>70711581
You're gonna teach them through rape? Nice religion you got there
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>>70711551
>Mary the mother of Jesus
Nobody know her age. You are guessing.
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>>70710218

Fucked by another sandgod. Truth comes from within, you don't need a memetric structure to program you into the comfort of a reality which seems to make sense.
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>>70711032
Birth rates, not conversions
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>>70711866
She was betrothed to Joseph which in Jewish custom puts her at 12-13 year old or so. It wasn't that uncommon for Europeans to marry down to 12 year old girls as late as the 18th century. Even in early 20th century it wasn't uncommon for guys in their 30's to be in relations with girls as young as 16.
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>>70712076

birthrates and conversions. The #1 conversion to Islam is white women and African Americans

get your facts straight
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>>70710218
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>>70712248
we have some white women that attend our friday prayer, im the only white male
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>>70710501
>Pork
>Unhealthy
It's much healthier than beef.
Not as good as fish though.
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>>70710218
Muslims have sex with children and goats, islam is degenerate
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>>70710218
>50% of all muslim boys have been diddled
>gay sex is very popular in Islam
>hala slaughter to cause as much pain to the animal as possible
>conspiring with Jews to take over Europe
>Deny Jesus Christ
>It is the only last stand against degeneracy in the world

Lol. Why so gay, America?
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>>70712407
We don't deny Jesus, he's a prophet of Islam, considered a muslim.
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Islam means submit.
Allah is master of decievers.

Literally the religion of idiots.
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>>70711741
low iq and sheep mentality
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>>70712407

all are idiotic lies you filthy kaffir . the adhan will be the german national anthem soon
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>>70712318
>Women
>Friday prayer
WTF?
Friday prayer are for men only.
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>>70712248
nope, not conversions. conversions and people leaving is the same, despite the death penalty for apostasy
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>>70712478
Sure, that's why every Muslim I ever met makes fun of Lord Jesus.

Fuck off back to your desert.
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>>70712478

Ex muslim here - you are a fool.
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>>70712139
Yes, I know, but you have no real proof.
Is totally in the realm of possibility that she was 25 or so. You cannot know.
But we know with for sure that your prophet, can God forgive him, was a pedo.
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>>70712536

then they're not muslim if they make fun of Isa (Jesus) pbuh
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>>70712536
Jesus is a prophet in islam faggot. But both religions are bullshit so who cares.
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Lol op is now on a watchlist.
you gonna get black sited mofugga
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>>70712494
>>70712590

AHAHAHAHAH

They hate you, you have been decieved. Enjoy your pseudo-religion wrapped up in a political ideology.
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>>70712593
Don't you get stoned for saying that shit?
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>>70710394
kek
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>>70712525
maybe in indo
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>>70710218

Just kill yourself you religious delusional cuck.
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>>70712700
turkey is not govern by sharia laws dude.
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>>70712569

She won't get betrothed at age 25. Betrothed happens during childhood, this was the norm in Jewish culture back then.
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>>70712673

I have the freedom to believe in whatever religion i want. it's my constitutional right
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>>70710218
K bro have fun, just remember if you go extremist mang. Go after the mental illness leftists first, because fucking up our country..

The degeneracy is spreading.
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>>70710501
Here's a true mudslime following his stupid idol mutthammud. Fucking children is a time honored tradition in pedoslam.
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>>70712846
you're the degenerate. Islam is going to fix the materialism and corruption of western culture
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>>70712840

BUT ITS NOT A RELIGION YOU DUMB FUCK.

IT IS A POLITICAL IDEOLOGY USED TO CONTROL THE UNEDUCATED AND STUPID THROUGH STORIES.
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>>70712956

you sound like alex jones
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>>70711551
>>70712139
Mary was betrothed around age 15, that's a lot better than age 6 like Aisha you fucking pedos.
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>>70712926
Then explain why muslim countries are some of the most corrupt and unequal societies in the world?

Please kill yourself.
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>>70712922
this is the typical American Christian.

disgusting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Koresh
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>>70710218
Congratulations on joining our peaceful madman religion! Here is your complimentary initiation vest!
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>>70713015
It doesn't say the age of either girls, we have to go by local customs at the time. Mary would have been around age 12-13
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>>70710218

the only way youre getting out of islamski is when youre blown to bits.
think really hard m8
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>>70713014
Is that all you've got? You sound like you are unable to grasp any moral fibres at all and are latching onto the book of madness like a gibbering retard.
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>>70713017
the governments are, but the people are purer than Westerners. Stable families with low divorce rates. Children to replace population. And the region is getting wealthier year on year, meanwhile Europe is decline.

Westerners have lost their way. Instead of family they pursue material possessions, greed, self interest.
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>>70713118
Dawkins is usually pretty chill towards Christianity, considering he came from the Church of England.
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>>70710218

Islam is probably one of the ugliest languages I've ever heard.

It's pretty much Hebrew without the phlem.
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>>70712926
ok Ahkmed, just remember you support an ideology that wants a legal system that encourages shit like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUM3pTwp6xY

incase you didn't watch it, Aussie chick in dubai was imprisoned for having sex outside of marriage (she was raped) by four men and couldn't prove it because four Muslim men didn't witness it. Also charged for drinking alcohol in the hotel.

savage law, savage ideology, savage people. take your savagery and go somewhere else
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>>70713192

>Islam
>Language

kek. The effect of porn, drugs, and alcohol my friend. Get out of your degenerate lifestyle
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>>70713192
Islam is not a language

Honestly Americans don't even need a flag on their comments, it's so obvious every time
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>>70710218
It is really sad to see a person in such despair as to seek comfort in a tacitly known wishful thinking hoax.
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>>70713192
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>>70713191
well, he wrote
"The God Delusion"
i guess he's a bit passive aggressive.
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>>70710218

>>>/b/
>>>/r9k/
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>>70713192
>Islam
>language

Murricans.....
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>>70712816
Sorry muslim, but, she was not a normal person, she was so extraordinary to give birth to the son of God.
Very, very special person, common rules cannot be applied.

But if you look at her as an atheist, ok, she may have been a kid for today standards, is a possibility, but civilized people don't marry kids anymore, they are too precious for us, they need to study, not to bear other kids.
What your prophet did, may God forgive him, is not acceptable anymore if you want to live up to our standards.
If you prefer to drink camel piss, you are welcome to return to your home.
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>>70713154

You've fallen for the 'purity and cleanliness' meme in Islam.

There is no arguing with you scum. I was born a muslim and left in my mid twenties upon seeing time and time again that these cunts preach but don't practice what they say.
They twist any and all verses in the Qu'ran to justify the sickness and perversion that is rife within the cult.

RIP.
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>>70713248
HA HA OH WOW YOU COULDN'T DO THESE THINGS YOURSELF.
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>>70710218
Wa alaykum asalam wa rahmetullah wa barakatu brother, I converted 6-7 years ago. The best choice I have done in my life.

This is a good video to learn how to pray https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKblG-Zoagk (and a good channel with lots of great material)

If you check out sermons then I recommend Mufti Menk and or Shayk Yasir Qadhi for more in depth stuff.
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>>70713239

That is an issue in Arabia, not the rest of the Islamic World. Islam actually introduces spiritual equality between men and women. It's throughout the hadith. Islam promotes gender roles though, men should work and women should be homemakers/mothers first
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>>70713426

Sounds like you're just angry because you couldn't stop fapping and watching porn so you just decided to abandon the faith. You are weak.
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>worhipping a foreign pedophile warlord 6 times a day somehow makes you less degenerate
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>>70710218
Allah praise you OP

Maybe we shall meet shoulder to shoulder in Jihad against the kuffar.
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>>70713528

But I don't watch porn, I am a vegetarian and work in dementia care.
I volunteer for my local community raising funds for the mentally disabled.
And you know what? I didn't need the Qu'ran to tell me to do this shit.
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>>70710593
nothing you say is true, ethnic background don't matter to muslims and the laws of Allah is way less marxist than the west in general.
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>>70713192
You're thinking of arabic and I agree, it sounds atrocious
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>>70713522
Is Sharia law an Arabic or Islamic custom?
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>>70710218
What a fucking shill thread
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>>70713646

Arabic is the most beautiful language
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>>70713630
>ethnic background don't matter to muslims
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>>70710218
kill yourself
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>>70713630
islam is an arabic supremacist religion essentially
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>>70713330
He's like one of those children that are typical on 4chan and reddit, where they rebel and shill atheism memes when their parents take them to church.

Except he's doing it later in life.
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>>70713528
You have no moral fibre anon. It is you who are weak and pathetic. You need a book to justify doing good in this world.

>>70713630

Another gullible bird joins the flock.
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>>70713491
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>>70713666
Sharia Law is Islamic but it isn't a set of rules set in stone. It just means laws derived from Islam. Already a lot of what your government does jives with Sharia. Sharia means totally different things, but hardcore muslims generally include things like covering women's hair and punishments mentioned in the scripture. Most muslim countries have Sharia Law on some level but it's only a few that take it to an orthodox level (Iran and Saudi Arabia). The ones screaming for Sharia Law in the West right now are talking about hardcore interpretations of it.
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>>70713709
Well, people do smile and come up to me because I am blonde and white so it is relatively rare. But it does not matter apart from that. Norwegian and Swedish culture in general is much less inclusive of different ethnicities than in the mosque.
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>>70713768
You should just keep quiet. You're an apostate, your opinion doesn't matter.
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Welcome to the light of Allah swt. Let these kuffar bark and enjoy their 80 years on earth living in their moms basement. We will enjoy an eternity in paradise while even shaitan will detest their awful smell
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>>70713763
>inplying it's logical that some kind of magical alien genetically egineered every species of animal and plantlife on the planet
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>>70713700

Its worse than german...sounds like you are coughing up a hairball

ACHHH ACHH AKKH!! etc

get fucked
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>>70713763
>He's like one of those children that are typical on 4chan and reddit, where they rebel and shill atheism memes when their parents take them to church.

you might be talking about lady gaga
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>>70713709
Islam forbids tribalism, muslims are not supposed to judge on race but people are naturally inclined to tribal mentality
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Iran is a muslim country and it is a feminist ridden shithole with a birthrate of 1.7. Not even islam will save you from degeneracy
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>>70710218
You kafir, which "islam" are you converting?

Clearly another heretical sunni sect
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>>70710411
pork is pretty gross desu, beef and lamb any day
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>>70713848
Come and kill me :^)
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>>70713906

shias aren't muslim
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>>70713906
Iran has always had more liberal attitudes towards women. The low birthrates in Iran are more complicated than just "feminism".
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>>70713868
>>70713873
How far Sweden has fallen. You're all either Muslim or atheist.
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>>70713888
can anyone explain why muslims believe there are 2 moons? >>70713491
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>>70713709
Fuck off this is Muhammeds pbuh last sermon

"O people! Indeed, your Lord is one and your father is one. Indeed, there is no superiority of an Arab over a non-Arab, nor of a non-Arab over an Arab, nor of a white over a black, nor a black over a white, except by piety. Have I conveyed the message?"
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>>70713946

I have no reason to kill you. Islam only promotes killing in self defense
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>>70713953
Shias are the only muslims. Sunnis are Zionist American filth
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>>70713759
>islam is an arabic supremacist religion essentially
You obviously don't know what you are talking about.

>>70713768
>You need a book to justify doing good in this world.

Atheists have no rational justification to do any good at all. Or even a rational justification of what good or bad even is.

>>70713800
>haria means totally different things, but hardcore muslims generally include things like covering women's hair and punishments mentioned in the scripture.

It's not sharia if you avoid what is written in the scripture should be the law. If you do something that contradicts the scripture then you have atheist laws like in the west. Just godless secular atheist laws. Sharia is when you follow the laws of Allah.
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>>70710218

Islam is the future and it would be wise to set up sects sympathetic to the western male.
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>>70713997
As I said there is no strict definition of Sharia, it is just legal codes derived from the texts. Even the quran literalists don't agree on what constitutes sharia
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>>70713962
Muslims don't believe that.

Muslims believe there are 2 moons around Mars, if that's what you mean.
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>>70713978
Reread your quran
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>>70710218
Fuck off, bacon will always win
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>>70714019

Well said brother. The kuffar of Europe and America will soon realize that their degenarate way of life gave their women the chance to sleep with other races.
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>>70713868
kek, prepare to be disappointed when you realise you'll be spending an eternity with other muslims
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>>70713800
ok, so then it is an issue in the Islamic world then, you just admitted it is laws derived from Islam.

I'd rather not see any of your savage law here or in Europe. The fact that woman was imprisoned in Dubai (not Saudi Arabia, not Iran, but in the UAE and in Dubai of all, the more liberal and progressive city in the ME) is what is frightening. This happened in what was supposed to be the more westernized city yet still got caught up in savagery. Where will it stop with Muslims who want Sharia? Will it stop at civil matters or will it move into criminal punishment? Your religious leaders will look to your ideology before a constitution. You can never be trusted.
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>>70713884
Nice.

Are you Catholic?
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>>70713956
>be iranian
>want to marry a girl
>have to pay her massive amount of money to do this
>find out that you are poor because Iran is a shithole
>go into debt
>girl divorces you next day and keeps the money
>you still have to pay your debts and become a slave to the government
>Decide not to marry and become a tranny degenerate
>Get subsidized government surgery

That place is more keked than Sweden. No wonder they are doing so bad.
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>>70714109
In paradise there is only true freedom. You can choose with whom you want to live, eat and sleep. We are muslims here on earth so we can be free in paradise
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>>70710593
That's why you become a Shia. They're much better people.
>>70710714
>>70713529
That was almost 1300 years ago m8. You can't even compare societies standards back then to societies standards today.
And once a girl has hit puberty, she technically is ready to breed children, and in a time when the average life expectancy was much shorter, it was deemed acceptable.
>>70712478
This. We believe Jesus was a prophet, but only a prophet.
>>70712525
You are retarded
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>>70714080
2 moons orbiting earth.
i talked to a saudi once
god dammit he was so insistent and it was scary.
i didn't think id come back home alive.
Worst thing he said was hitting women is justified.
seriously, that was some extremist shit my pimply ass couldnt handle at that moment.
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>>70714109
Yep, he will end up with the other worshippers of the creator of the universe, the God of Abraham. He will end up with those who regularly worship the allmighty alone without partners or any other Gods beside him.

Instead of spending time with the blasphemers, drunk pagans and other people like you.
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>tfw up to FOUR wives at the same time
>tfw pure submissive virgin girls
>tfw no divorce rape

Kek at western cucklets, why even live??
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Islam is what's wrong with this world.

Only a dead muslim is a good muslim.

Drop dead, OP.
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>>70714158
i practice panentheism
and am gender fluid.

jk
ive no religion
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>>70710218
>>last stand against degeneracy
>“You can be cruised anywhere in Saudi Arabia, any time of the day,” said Radwan, a 42-year-old gay Saudi American who grew up in various Western cities and now lives in Jeddah. “They’re quite shameless about it.” Talal, a Syrian who moved to Riyadh in 2000, calls the Saudi capital a “gay heaven.” (http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2007/05/the-kingdom-in-the-closet/305774/)
>For some, owning a bacha as a sex slave is a status symbol. Those who can’t afford it, buy CDs and DVDs of bacha bazi from the market. Others in the Kabul chai (tea) houses watch videos of dancing bachas. (http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/29547/the-filthy-culture-of-bacha-bazi-in-afghanistan/)
>Kabul - A frustrated Afghan soldier who could not afford to get married has been released without charge after being caught having sex with a donkey, police said on Tuesday. (http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/entertainment/Soldier-released-after-having-sex-with-donkey-53969)
>A 13-year-old Yemeni girl died of internal injuries four days after a family-arranged marriage to a man almost twice her age, a human rights group said. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1264729/Child-bride-13-dies-internal-injuries-days-arranged-marriage-Yemen.html)
Idk, doesn't seem like islam stopped degeneracy in other countries.
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>>70713700
It objectively isn't, muslims really are delusional aren't they?
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>>70714248
damn that sucks, guess I'm the only one here

are there still lots of Catholics in your country? I heard there was
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>>70714150
Yes the issue is with the Islamic World and regional cultures.

That's why female genital mutilation is common with Christians and Muslims in Central Africa but not in everywhere else in the Muslim lands. It's why honour killings happen among Yezidis and Muslims a like in Kurdistan. It's why Christians in Africa murder witches and homosexuals but don't do it in Europe. these things are regional based
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>>70713953
Shia's and Sunni's are both Muslims you idiot. We have some minor differences in beliefs, but it all stems from who Mohammad's successor should have been, but at the end of the day we both follow the Qur'an and the 5 pillars of Islam. That is all that is required to be a Muslim.
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>mfw there isn't a single good muslim country in the world
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>>70714244
Kek, they dont even understand that islam and paradise is perfect for them. Every desire is free there which means that they can finally experience having sexual intercouse with a anime character whilst getting endless rivers of doritos and mountain dew
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>>70714291
This thread, if anything, is proof of that
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>>70714291
The Quran commands us to find the objective truths about the world. That's why the Umayyad, Ottoman and Abbasid Caliphates were so scientifically advanced. The muslims suffered an apocalypse after the Mongols and the Timur invasions. And the death of the Silk Road. But it will come back.
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>>70714300

there are many "catholics".
but if you want "a real catholic", you may have to look hard, really hard, or go elsewhere.
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>>70714287
Underrated, Islam is as degenerate as anything else. This commercial that OP is doing here is typical Saudi propaganda, when you get dem salafists you betta watch ya back boi, be it "muslim" or not.
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>>70714187
>>70714222

Religious people seriously believe this. This life is all there is you fools. People who have to tell themselves 'it's all going to be okay because Allah loves me' are pathetic, it's clear what the realities of this world are but people choose to ignore them.
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>>70714357
I know, right, what a bunch of retards
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>>70714330
Malaysia best country.
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>>70714357
>having sexual intercouse with a anime character whilst getting endless rivers of doritos and mountain dew

please tell us more about your fantasies :)
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>>70714454
somalia is clearly the best country
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>>70714404
>finds objective truth
>still a muslim

Try again
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>>70714480
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>>70714150
>I'd rather not see any of your savage law here or in Europe.

You already have... Why do you think courts in Europe use evidence and wittnesses in court instead of using ordeals like putting the accused hands in boiling water and see if there are blemishes the next day?

The reason why Europe uses evidence and wittnesses instead is because Sharia laws was sneaked in to Europe after the christians took muslim spain in 1492. There already is lots of Sharia, Sharia is the basis for what christians consider justice.

>>70714150
>The fact that woman was imprisoned in Dubai (not Saudi Arabia, not Iran, but in the UAE and in Dubai of all, the more liberal and progressive city in the ME) is what is frightening.

She willingly brought a man to her room where she had sex and she served alcohol to muslims even though she knew it was illegal. She was a criminal.

>>70714220
>2 moons orbiting earth.

Muslims don't believe that.

>god dammit he was so insistent and it was scary.

Sounds like American education, probably someone in the royal family if he can get education in America.

>Worst thing he said was hitting women is justified.

It is, and it is perfectly fine in Sharia as long as it is not hard enough to bruise the skin or hurt the bones. And never anywhere on the head.
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>>70714287
Taliban stopped it and made it a crime punishable by death to do that. But Americans reintroduced it and put the pedophiles in power because they were the only ones who wanted to get rid of the taliban.
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>>70714404
>But it will come back.
god dammit
sounds like a threat
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>>70710218
>i don't want to be degenerate
>which is why I'll join a group so far gone, so degenerated that it literally cannot go further
10/10 you're no better than the cucks and the lefties.
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>>70714530
>Sharia is the basis of western justice
>Here's some normal behaviour that is punished for some reason
>Justice

Muslims make me so fucking angry, without a doubt the most delusional and backwards people on this planet
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If it's so easy to find a wife, how come most Muslim men I know are single (most involuntarily)?
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>>70714685
>how come most Muslim men I know are single (most involuntarily)?

Because muslim men have to be responsible enough to convince the girls father first.
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>>70714752
Or they're just happy with the variety of little boys and goats on offer
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>>70714752
Don't they also have to be rich?

Since you mentioned you're a white convert, do women view you differently?
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>>70714530
>It is, and it is perfectly fine in Sharia as long as it is not hard enough to bruise the skin or hurt the bones. And never anywhere on the head.

yeah he said it should be on the arm.
but i cant comprehend how that is acceptable.
there are laws against violence on women and children and we regularly see beaten up women, now, giving a thumbs up for hurting women is just like justifying "accidentally" pushing them on the stairs.

not every one has the same definition of what "misbehaving" is. So if the men thought studying is "misbehaving" then regular arm beating would be acceptable.

idk man, it seems all sorts of fucked up.

the saudi spoke good english though. but with heavy accent.
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>>70710501
muhammad was a paedophile and the fact you deny his marriage to ayesha when she was 9 is blasphemy.
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>>70714301
Right, FGM is across Christians and Muslims in Africa as well, much more a product of being in Africa than them being a Christian or a Muslim I will concede that.

Yet here I am in Texas where in a few short months I am going to witness dozens and dozens of Islamic women walk around in the Texas heat most of whom wearing some kind of hijab and some of whom wearing a full burka with their coward Muslim husbands walking around in a dri-fit shirt and shorts. Is that a cultural side effect or a religious one? Why must the ex-Muslims in my city meet in secret? Are the death to apostasy threats they get from their family members about their culture or their religion?

Sooner or later, you'll realize the savagery has one thing in common, and it isn't the culture of one country or region over the other, it's Islam and it's what is in your religious texts. That "culture" of savagery will spread with your religion into civilized nations. Your extremists will hijack it eventually, a product of being left alone unsupervised with a Quran. We don't want to have to keep splitting hairs between your religion and your culture, we would rather just not want to have to deal with you people who worship an ideology counter to everything democracy and the West stands for.
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>>70714685

probably because muslims in the west focus on education more and get more education that average westerners. they go for PhDs and doctorates and then get married
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>>70714876
This, I don't care what muslims do in their own countries, just get out of ours
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>>70710593
Saleem?
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>>70710665
>nigger thinking that he will somehow will fuck up his off spring.

Nigger really.
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>>70714936

kek maybe you shouldn't have been an imperialistic shithole for centuries if you didn't want multiculturalism
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>>70710218
you face Mecca now
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>>70710218
Ahalan wasahalan ya bin sharmuta.
If you really think that islam is the right path to "truth", either you are autistic or just a brainwashed faggot.

There is no true religion, each one should belive in what they want and live the rest of their lives happily, and not get your shitty ass opinion/propaganda in thier faces.
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>>70714530
yea, you know what the difference is? Your credibility as a witness isn't based on whether or not you are a male or female. and being raped isn't dependent on whether or not an arbitrary number of 4 Muslim men having witnessed it. Get it? And what does religious affiliation even have to do with your ability to bear witness to a crime?

>>70714530
She was drugged that evening. Being a rape victim is a crime to you people. Unfuckingbelivable.
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>>70715006
Get ready for the Catholics anon.

they will not fall for your sandnigger stories.
You will be replaced
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>>70715006
Kek maybe you should have thought about not ending the Islamic golden age if you didn't want to utterly and completely surpassed

Now muslims just move to a western country, shit out ten babies and claim themselves God's chosen people
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http://fuckislam.org

Nothing else to say.
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>>70710665
Nah it's a lottery, you just might get a Nobel prize winner.

Look all of you muslim faggots. I don't know how you got to all of these countries or is this a proxy shillfest or maybe a new excited converts but seriously shut the fuck up about your religion. Nobody is interested and we all know of it very well.

If you want objective view on it i can provide informations, we have all of Abrahamic traditions living here and all of it is the same absolute shit degeneracy each in it's own way.

>>70714936
Too late now, it was nice while it lasted Emperor.
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>>70710218
>I am white
>converting to Islam
Not anymore you're not. I'll make sure to burn a Koran in memory of your lost whiteness.
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>>70710218
you know what's cool about America is you can believe whatever you want but it still makes you look gay when you want to shove it down anyone else's throat
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>>70710218
You're a joke. You turn to religion because you feel like a part of society has shunned you. Instead of working on why you suck at life, you take the cop out and turn to a religion and their people to make you feel like a part of something for once.

I don't call myself an atheist, but I certainly don't waste my time praying to some deity that's very likely to be just as real as santa claus.

Does this mean I'm weak? No, I meditate every day to help me release tension in my life. I don't do this out of spirituality, but by its scientifically proven as a great stress reducer.

But hey, I could sit here all day and talk about how I live a good life without praying to a God which many have slain people for.

Instead of taking part in religious customs, living by some fucking book written by people from the stupid ages, and cutting people off in my life to open the door for wack-jobs from some religion, I focus on myself, my family, my business, and leaving a legacy for not only my off-spring but community as well.

This isn't just a me thing either, this is a basic human instinct that we all want to achieve, but are so side-tracked in life that we have to believe in stupid shit to keep ourselves occupied from the inconvenient truth.
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>>70715107

another shill I can't wait for the mahdi to return and destroy every single jew on this planet you better shut your filthy kaffir mouth
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>>70710218
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>>70710218
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>>70715262
"religion of peace"
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>>70715262
I cant wait untill you join isis and blow a fuvkin bus for you alla you brainwashed fag
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>>70715262
kek, you have to rely on holy powers to defeat Jews because God knows you could never do it your damn selves
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>>70711612
Why did you convert?
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>>70715262
All i said is that you should belive in whatever you want and bw ok with it.
However it seems that you are too autistic to read something before you comment meaningless shit.
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>>70715262
abracadabra make the Muslim go to Africa! did my magic spell work?
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>>70715380
Not really because of God or heaven or anything like that. More like a spiritual thing, remove materialism and be a better person. Islam offers this too, it's what take from it
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>>70710218
welcome brother
i hope to find you in goat fucking paradise
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>>70715546
Why didn't you just join a religion more open to different interpretation then? Even in this country Muslims kill each other over their interpretations
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>>70715546
Out of curiousity, why choose Islam instead of some other creed? Say Buddhism?
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>>70710593
>it's an Ethno Cult
Uhhh, what?

I think you're thinking of Judaism. Really, really embarrassing mistake you made there.

>>70714219
As a proud Shi'a Muslim I approve this message.
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>>70710218
Islam propaganda, not even a good bait.
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>>70715644
The only embarrassing mistake they made was to even consider joining Islam for a second
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>>70714219
>once a girl has hit puberty, she technically is ready to breed children
>>70715644
>As a proud Shi'a Muslim I approve this message.

some kids get their periods at 9 or 8 even
they can get pregnant
but the question is, do they even know its not just shit that can come out of an asshole?
Are they aware of the prospect they will have to put a knob inside their mouths?

and youre telling me, its ok and that it should be acceptable?
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>>70710665

Of course brother...How else do you think we create people dumb enough to be Muslim?
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>>70715637
Because the concept of "Allah" is even more invasive than the concept of "God". Basically everything about Quran is about being told what to do, as long as you do it you're good, even if everything is bad.
Delusions are consoling, but they are no different from collective, self imposed brainwashing. Orwell's 1984 talked about it in great detail, it's incredible how human mind can be easily tricked into giving away free thought so you can pretend everything is a-ok.

Buddhism and eastern philosophies on the other hand would have forced him to assume a rational stance and to think for himself. Which is totally never going to happen when your book of choice is the Quran.
Not that it matters, massive exposition to Mtv, tumblr and tolerance will hopefully quell his dissent and turn him into a degenerate. Which is preferable to being a deluded bigot venerating a dead pedo liar in the desert
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>>70715637
>>70715615

I find Buddhism more like becoming a tree. Meditation and learning to lack any desires, but you lose everything that makes you human.

Islam has a lot of focus on this meditation and spirituality side as does Buddhism. Regardless of whether the stories are true and whatever Muhammad did, I think it does teach you to become a better person, self disciplined and focus on more important things.

Islam is basically Christianity, there isn't that much difference in the texts, even if there is a huge difference between the Islamic World and Western World between cultures and values. None of that matters to me, I'm not going to marry a child or kill someone for attacking muhammad.

A lot of things in the Quran and Hadith were written during a certain time and context and worked well for those days, a lot of Islamic scholars say this too. The literalists and purists I don't even recognize as me.
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>>70710218
>hey jim you got plans this weekend?
>yeah i'm gonna take the wife and her kid up to the lake.
>cool man
>how about you?
>well, i'll be converting to islam on friday
>oh. how...fun?
>did you know islam encourages rational thinking?
>uh-huh
>welp, see you tomorrow

>picks up phone
>yeah, boss it's jim
>gonna need a personal day friday

Where to start?

Islam isn't a religion, it's an excuse.

Also, all religion is cancer. Shit keeps people in line.

>inb4 edge
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>>70710845
>Fucking 9 year olds is ok
>Sometimes

No anon. That is wrong.
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>>70716184
Fair enough, I still hold Islam as the worst major religion there is, mostly because it was written for a different time, but the Quran is supposed to be the 'perfect book'. This alone has chained the Islamic world to the past, as the rest of the world developed their freedoms and values
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>>70716335
nigger
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>>70716322

I'm a nigger
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>>70715896
1300 years ago it was acceptable. That's all I'm saying. You can't compare societies standards back then to societies standards today
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>>70716365
>>70716382

NIGGER
WAR
NOW
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>>70710411
Whoa is that niggers head shooped?
Looks too big to be honest
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>>70716389
Maybe not for muslims in America, you already enjoy the hard earned freedoms of the west. Rural muslims in Islamic countries live surprisingly similar lives as back then, a consequence of the stagnant and restrictive nature of Islam
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>>70710218
>convert to a religion of no human rights, sodomy and hypocrisy
>fight degenerancy
Ha ha nice joke.
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>>70710218
Congrats on being a faggot anon. By all means learn from the Qur'an and adopt some of it's stances against degeneracy, but actually reverting is the edgiest thing you could do.
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>>70716389
no,
im not talking about that muhammad-aisha thing. i dont know that, so i wont comment on it.

im talking about the fact the guy said "once a girl hits puberty, she is technically ready to breed children"
despite the use of the word "technically" you know perfectly well its implying that fucking a girl that hit puberty is okay since she can get pregnant.

that is not okay today.

and the other guy said he is okay with that..
TODAY, not centuries ago.
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>>70716335
It's supposed to be the exact word of god to fix up the old and new testaments, which were inspired by god but not exactly correct. The Quran is supposed to fix this.

It depends on where you go to learn about Islam. If you're a peaceful and kind person you're probably going to value those kinds of things in Islam.

The Islamic World was very advanced once upon a time and it can happen again. Politics and religion has to be separated for this to happen, as politics poisons everything. Islam should be a personal thing and this isn't an alien concept to Islamic scholars, but right now we are going through reactionary backlash among the Shiites and the catastrophe that happened due to the void opened by the collapse of the Ottoman Caliphate.

Terrorism is an incredibly effective tactic and the most brutal and hardest factions will endure the most, hence the rise of these groups right now. Things will calm down eventually.
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>>70716518

How? It will be the #1 religion in 25 years. It is a religion for all mankind to make us better
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Inshallah brother
Our numbers grow stronger every day
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>>70716620
Number one only by the amount of kids muslims have, because in general they come from less developed countries.

No matter how many people follow Islam it will always be inferior to the west that once was. People will continue to struggle against it globally, because it denies them of their own cultural heritage
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>>70710218
amazing how people can believe that bullshit, the reason the west is not doing too well is because it abandoned christianity, same reason why it was good and wholesome in the past..

Good luck when you finally wisen up to what islam is and teaches (killing kuffar is basically a human sacrifice/blood sacrifice to allah) and want to leave it.. you're going to need it.
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>>70710218
you are the best troll with this religion crap im guessing you got sick of baiting /b/tards and come to /pol/ for more adult shits and giggles
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>>70716620
Your numbers are false, why do muslims always praise number of new converts but never numbers of people who leave islam.
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>>70716613
>Things will calm down eventually.
until another caliphate.
you have to accept that among all religions that changed, islam is the one that has always been violent. extremist (retarded) christians only pray till they shit themselves, extremist muslim on the other hand, blow themselves up
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I can't wait for AI robots to exist so they understand that all religious people should be eradicated, since they pose a threat to scientific progress.
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>>70716620
Muslims converting to Christianity is equally edgy, why should I convert when I can just read the Qur'an and adopt the good bits?
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>>70716836

nobody leaves islam. people who "leave" islam were never truly muslim to begin with
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>>70716881
>all religious people should be eradicated, since they pose a threat to scientific progress

No we don't
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>>70716613

>The Islamic World was very advanced once upon a time

Before they burned down all the knowledge because it didn't align with muh religious beliefs. Muslims will always put their faith before anything else hence why they will always be barbarians that are unable to integrate within civilized society.
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>>70716881
Scientific progress is the root of degeneracy
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>>70716914
>people who "leave" islam were never truly muslim to begin with

Nobody is born muslim, your bait is shit if you actually knew anything about your "religion" you wouldn't be saying shit this stupid.
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>>70717039

you are an idiot. I expected better t b h
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How is this bait thread still going?
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>>70716977
That's not what happened. The Mongols torched Persia in 1200 and Timur did so again in 1400. The Ottoman Empire went into terminal decline once the Silk Road died, as West Europe discovered sea trade routes. Since then the Europeans have been meddling in muslim lands for their own benefit and the suffering of the muslims.

The irony is that you actually have zero knowledge on the circumstances. The Middle East will repair itself in time.
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>>70717110
lots of hungry fish today I'm almost out of bait
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>>70716930
Keep thinking that you don't. George Bush halted all funding for stem cell research in America due to a growing demand from religious groups to do so.

Just look throughout history. The people we hail as the greatest of scientists were killed, jailed, or excommunicated for being heretics.

It's safe to say that highly intelligent AI would suppress religion by murdering off the believers. It is the only way to move on towards a more intelligent civilization. Many of the highly religious areas of the world are also some of the least educated for a reason.

Just look at the bible belt in America and compare it to any other part of the country.
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>>70717230

>The Middle East will repair itself in time

Just after the rest of the world carpet bombs it into a parking lot and kills all the muslims.
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>>70717230
>The Middle East will repair itself in time.
threat part 2

someone has to guard that lindt cafe tb.h
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>>70710218
traitor...
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>>70717437
yeah how well did the Afghan and Iraq War work out for the West? The West has pulled out and isn't going back in. Iran is taking control of the middle east and will slowly move away from Khomeinism. It's enjoyed one of the highest HDI growths in the last 40 years, on par with China despite 8 years of war and years of economic isolation. USA and Iran are warming relations and they're going to stomp on these takfiri groups creating all this mess.

The West isn't going back into the middle east, this is just delusional
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>>70717230
>Europeans have been meddling in muslim lands for their own benefit and the suffering of the muslims.

This is bullshit, until Oil became a thing between 1400 and 1800 (at least) absolutely nothing happened except war in ME region. ME became interesting ONLY because of oil and because jews wanting their tribal lands.
How the fuck will it repair now with all of this shit going on?
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>>70717529
You see their development as a threat?
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>>70710394
hahahaha

Well done my friend.
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>>70717672
>Kuwait
>Saudi Arabia
>UAE

idk they seem pretty developed to me.
any other "development" seem suspicious.
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>>70717663
The british have been fucking around in the middle east for some 250 years.

1400 represents the time when Timur the Lame invaded Persia and depopulated the region by estimates of 70-90%. There was the Safavid Empire afterwards that started growing rapidly but the Silk Road died with Europeans discovering trade routes to the East. The Ottomans went into terminal decline because they were too late to enter the game of colonization and Safavids collapsed which made room for the Russians, Pashtuns, and Ottomans to claim land. The result of a massive backlash of Persian nationalism allied with Afshar Turks and Kurds under Nader Shah and a long series of wars. Basically, the middle east never quite got better after the first Mongol Invasions in 1200 and by historian estimates the population didn't return until roughly 1950.

Iran and Turkey have seen massive economic gains in the last 15 years, they'll continue to grow barring any major upset. There is a lot of bad blood that has to be sorted before things can start improving, but it'll happen
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>>70716184
Sounds rational enough. I think the act of seeking guidance from outside yourself challenges you to be a better person. You just see opportunities to do good you wouldn't otherwise. There are a lot of principles to agree with, but too many rituals I view as pointless, to identify with a religion. Hope it works out for you.
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>>70716389
>1300 years ago it was acceptable. That's all I'm saying. You can't compare societies standards back then to societies standards today

It's funny because you said this unironically not realising that this statement perfectly encapsulates Islam entirely
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