What is TPP? The guys making it say it's good why is it bad?
pic no relate
just another step to global tyranny by corporations
i guess it's inevitable
TPP is about
1. Outsourcing more to countries other than China
2. Giving corporations direct control over government policy
3. Standardizing laws (like copyright) so no one can be outside the US legal strucutre
>>70689900
this will explain it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtJUVEPaF44
The guys making it say it's good because they're all globalists and multinational corporations who stand to make a great deal more money. Ordinary people and small local businesses at best gain absolutely nothing and at worse stand to lose money, opportunities, and liberties.
>businesses can sue governments
Trade deal to offset Chinese influence in the Pacific Rim. Basically we want to open up more trade with Asian countries other than China. Trump is making is seem bad because he's pandering to blue-collar workers who feel disoriented in an increasingly globalized world. As US manufacturing jobs decreased from 30% to 9% as of 2015, the US is becoming a large exporter of services. This calls for a more educated labor force to meet the needs of these new skilled jobs. Free trade is a good thing.
>>70689724
This image should have Israel puppetering the Uncle Sam doll.
>>70689974
Your chart really just shows that we import more from China than we export to them. Yes, we do need to renegotiate trade deals with China, but protectionism will set us back. There's a reason the standard of living is better today than it was in the 80s. We need to adapt to post-manufacturing United States and move towards being competitive in other services.
>>70690413
trade deficit=lost jobs and stagnant wages
http://www.epi.org/publication/china-trade-outsourcing-and-jobs/
>>70692214
>>70692238
Looks like it's going up since Nafta, doesn't seem too bad to me
>>70692594
>what is the IT boom
now check the private debt levels
>wages lower since 1980s
>debt near the highest in history
you can't defend this unless you're a complete globalist.
>>70689724
Why does that arab have a kike nose?
TPP isn't so much about free trade but enforcing labor standards and copy right law.
Aka anti-consumer as fuck.
If you want to keep downloading free shit, be anti TPP
>>70692766
income distribution has tanked for the middle class.
>>70692888
net worth has tanked since the 80s
>>70689900
USA already has extremely low tarrifs so it's not going to result in more outsourcing.
If you had actually done any research instead of letting random idiots on Youtube think for you, you would have figured this out pretty quickly.
It's the Asian countries that have high tarrifs and lower standards relative to US-Canada.
TPP forces them to raise their labor/safety standards, enforce intellectual property laws (like US patents), and remove tarrifs which disproportionately benefits the USA and Canada while faciliting trade between Asian countries.
India and China have refused to join because they consider it US economic imperialism that will help USA and hurt their economies (by making them less competitive vis-a vis USA and allowing us to sue them when they steal our IP and make knockoffs of our products).
Tbh senpai the core of it is actually a long awaited US-Japan FTA and the rest of the countries are mostly fluff.
Is there any real resistance to it? I haven't heard of any protests or really anything at all about it from anyone I meet in daily life, at least here in Toronto or Montreal. Most people I know have never heard of it.
>>70689724
TPP is the DMCA of global business.
It serves no purpose except make the rich richer with less effort.
Anti-free-market.
>>70693073
>lowering tariffs even more won't cause more outsourcing
terrible logic
>It's the Asian countries that have high tarrifs and lower standards
It's a one way street
>TPP forces them to raise their labor/safety standards,
kek. They don't even enforce current labor laws, much less any new ones.
>India and China have refused to join because they consider it US economic imperialism
TPP is exclusively about combating BRICS (mainly China) Putting them in the deal would be retarded
>Tbh senpai the core of it is actually a long awaited US-Japan FTA
You seem to love destroying America labor, and for that you should be counted as a traitor.
The TPP is about letting corporations take over the legislative and judicial branches while outsourcing as much as possible to asian countries in order to "please" them and ensure their compliance in any trade wars with China which ironically is only a problem because we endlessly outsourced to them already.
>>70693221
I wish, desu look how it passed congress. All of the people didn't want it yet the government forced it through by bribes and whipping our representatives. Shits over, Shillary's gonna get in, make a few non essential changes than force it through. Shits ogre
>>70693624
also the fact we live in a high debt economy makes it literally impossible for any worker to compete with asians in low debt economies.
Opening up the US economy with TPP to asia is going to result in as much trade rape as NAFTA did.
And also, is it even possible that the TPP won't be enacted at this point? What are the criteria for it being implemented that could go one way or the other? Do any of the member states have the power to veto it if internal factors go that way? Or is it just safe to bend over right now and save time?
>>70693790
No it's 100% going to pass
there's no way to stop the coming asian rape it's Genghis Khan 2.0
>>70693790
If you don't want TPP ratified you better get on a letter writting campaign and have everyone you know mail Parliment, get signatures, or even physically show up protesting it. Otherwise, it's going to go through. In fact, even if you do all this, it's probably still going to go through. If you haven't noticed, the gov is doing whatever the fuck it wants regardless of the peoples wishes.
>>70694106
Have any resources or leads for a fellow leaf to add his share of piss into this ocean?
>>70695074
https://letstalktpp.ca/
>>70693073
>TPP forces them to raise their labor/safety standards,
Read TPP. Labor regulations are left to be decided at national level. No TPP wide minum wage, no limted work hours, nothing. Only TPP wide thing is that unions should not be banned.
>enforce intellectual property laws (like US patents), and remove tariffs which disproportionately benefits the USA and Canada while faciliting trade between Asian countries
It benefits to use USA patents and technologies in Vietnam sweatshops. International corporations will have great profits in battle with China for sure (moving production into China backfires when they inevitably steal intellectual property and nothing can be done about it). US patents + cheap labor = win. TPP is trying to fix mistake done with china. China is too stronk to be forced unlike cuck 3rd world contries chosen for TPP.
But. US middle class is left completely outside economic benefits of this scheme. You don't hold any patents and you are not gonna work in 3rd world sweatshop.
>India and China have refused to join because
Because fuck your intellectual property.
>>70693935
>there's no way to stop the coming asian rape it's Genghis Khan 2.0
It would not be asian rape . They would be slaves of TPP too, this time countries for sweatshopes were chosen right. It would be great cyberpunk Gibson future. With shining super rich super technology corporations and their 3rd world workers assembling virtual reality sets and amazon delivery robots for a cup of rice.
>>70697302
yes the asians are getting raped as bad as the US that's true
only the multinational globalist corporations win with TPP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNm1WL89JSc
http://tppcoalition.org/about/
>>70693073
>enforcing IP in Asian countries
As someone who has worked at a company that went through the Asian experience, I can confidently state they cannot even enforce their own people's patents, let alone other countries.
One of our suppliers had pretty much stolen all his designs, including CAD files, from his previous employer in Harbin, then moved back to his home city in southern China to produce them himself using the cheaper labor/better subsidies there.
>>70696799
technically every ones patents are enforced not just americas in TPP nations. it wont help america 1 bit
it will help phizer who helped draft the fucking thing by expanding its exclusitivity deal. but that doesnt help america because they have a international division who wont be repatriating funds and the money cant be taxed by america
