http://www.reuters.com/article/science-psychedelic-idUSL5N17E3D7
>Scientists have for the first time scanned the brains of people using LSD and found how brain in a psychedelic drug state mimics mind of a baby: free and unconstrained.
/pol/ literally on life support
not much of a surprise that people like you would believe thinking like a baby is a good thing
Now I know why I can't remember anything from my childhood
>>70688148
the point is LSD is completely harmless
but people like you can't make this simple fact on they're own, you mong
>>70687949
>https://tumblr-argument-generator.lokaltog.net/
>complete mental freedom without the capacity to harness and direct it is useful.
>>70688542
found the pussy who is always too afraid to try drugs
>>70688426
>an adult with the mindset of a baby is completely harmless
>>70688663
>being reborn is bad
>innocence is bad
go back to jerking off to porn you cynical STEM neckbeard
>>70688148
Maybe after you try LSD you will be reborn into less of a faggot
>>70688148
fpbp
>>70688779
>being reborn
what the fuck does that even mean?
>innocence
yeah it's great when you're four years old
>>70688824
>reborn
there's that utterly meaningless word again
LSD is cool you faggots
Well, i did have very profound experiences on acid, but i also had very inane experiences on acid
So i dunno whats the truth here, but its better to shut your mouth cause most people only experience inane stuff
>>70687949
/pol/ is free and unconstrained 100% of the time.
But FAGGOTS like you can only approach free and unconstrained briefly by resorting to LSD.
You BTFO by /pol/
So babies trip 24/7? That must suck.
>>70687949
RARE
A
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>>70689168
>/pol/ is free and unconstrained 100% of the time.
so /pol/ is babies all the time? that makes sense.
>>70689012
This. You'll experience more profound conclusions on life by reading an intro to philosophy book than you will on any amount of acid
Candyflipping is still lit tho
>>70689636
What if you do acid while reading a philosophy book?
>>70688542
>freedom not being an end in and of itself
non-Americans everyone
>>70689425
Jesus leaf how fucking new are you it's just Catholic Serbia?
The whole point is to sort of refresh your brain and your perspective.
LSD like any drug is a tool. I do stimulants before work and hit the bong before dinner and once or twice a year I'll trip on something so I can reemerge with a fresh perspective on my life.
Feels great to be human and fiddle with my consciousness as I see fit. I'm not going to push it on anyone but if you protest it you're a dick bitch
>>70688148
10/10
>>70689425
how the fuck is croatia rare
>>70688779
Go back to your drug trips. You do it because it's fun and you know it, you just lie to yourself about "enlightenment" and "being reborn". Just admit you do drugs for fun like every other person.
>>70688148
Haha
But seriously though
I hate these neckbeards who act like its the redpill
I honestly feel like psyches turn more people lib than weed ever has
The whole point is to sort of refresh your brain and your perspective.
LSD like any drug is a tool. I do stimulants before work and hit the bong before dinner and once or twice a year I'll trip on something so I can reemerge with a fresh perspective on my life.
Feels great to be human and fiddle with my consciousness as I see fit. I'm not going to push it on anyone but if you protest it you're a dick bitch
>>70688628
most /pol/ acks not afraid of normal drug use but the poeple who go full degenerate with it, goverment should have no ban on psychedelic substances , you should however have a perscription from a psychiatrist
>>70690122
The fuck
The whole point is to sort of refresh your brain and your perspective.
LSD like any drug is a tool. I do stimulants before work and hit the bong before dinner and once or twice a year I'll trip on something so I can reemerge with a fresh perspective on my life.
Feels great to be human and fiddle with my consciousness as I see fit. I'm not going to push it on anyone but if you protest it you're a dick bitch
>>70690008
>hasn't done psychedelics
>"you just lie to yourself"
Is it summer already?
>>70687949
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin
The feeling of being at one with all.
>>70688148
FIRST
POST
BEST
POST
>>70690252
>>70690122
>>70689955
this is why you shouldn't do LSD
>>70690056
SURVEY: How many people on this board acquired some of their right-wing views as a direct result of psychedelics?
Reporting in.
>>70687949
>using lsd for woah dude lol wow da colors lol
dumb,waste of lsd and time
>using lsd for ego death and reflection
shamanistic,introspective,patrician
>>70690287
Ive taken psyches and i didnt learn anything
I know what they do and understand what everyone says about them but still think that they are so ridiculously overhyped it's insane
Like any other drug, I will take them because I want to trip
I could even say that if they did teach me something it was that you shouldnt take yourself too seriously, which is what 90% of trippers do
I hate hearing people try to make out how life is a complicated puzzle with hidden meanings when in reality it's the most rudimentary thing to exist
It's almost like everyones in denial
>>70688779
There is literally no difference between innocence and ignorance. Babies and adults with the mindsets of babies do not make useful contributions to society.
>>70690470
It let me think about economics without the lens of my feelings getting in the way. Would recommend.
>>70690709
Neither do people complaining about what other people are doing.
>>70689012
Lol you took acid and still believe in truth. Right over your head eh?
>>70690625
>>70690625
pretty much this.
I used it to get over a friend's death (I just wasn't able to cope until I reserved a day and used it like the tool it really is).
Using it just "to trip" is a pathetic waste of a powerful tool.
>>70687949
How does one get their hands on LSD?
>>70688148
I'm speechless in how bad this post is
>>70690865
college
>>70690470
made me an independent and now I give all arguments a fair hearing and consideration instead of dismissing them because they are left/right
>>70690679
>life is the most rudimentary thing to exist
/pol/ is a Christian board, what are you doing here?
>>70690808
this
>>70688779
Do you really think LSD could be used therapeutically to remove sex/porn addiction?
>>70689723
Then you win at your acid trip bro. Acid is liquid chemical significance unbound unto your brain matter.
>>70690952
Whats the first line in the bible again?
>>70689323
Damn, that's actually true.
>>70690953
LSD can do anything a god can, [spoiler]can't you??[/spoiler]
the child like wonderment is my favorite aspect of lsd
>>70688148
"Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."
-Matthew 18:3
Anyway OP implies using LSD is somehow an anti-/pol/ thing to do. Nothing could be further from the truth. Psychedelic drugs have spiritual value and are not generally very addictive or dangerous.
>>70690679
Not sure if bad spelling and punctuation for ruse purposes, but consider that other people have different experiences than yourself. You didn't find anything profound in psychedelics, but I argue that they have been a tool for myself and others.
>>70687949
I used to do shrooms constantly. Best thing in the world.
I plan to restart shroom use when I retire.
>>70690953
Yeah or you could spend 8 hours jerking off on acid until you realize you're not gonna bust
![1920px-Golden_teacher_kookoskuidussa_3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6MMc8Bj.jpg "1920px-Golden_teacher_kookoskuidussa_3[1].jpg")
And psilocybin mushrooms are being shown to possibly be effective in treating depression and PTSD.
>tfw live in a state that it's illegal to buy spores so can't grow them myself =/
>>70690056
>I honestly feel like psyches turn more people lib than weed ever has
Because you've never done them.
Psyches and stims are god-tier.
BTW, I can highly recommend ethyl-hexedrone right now, as it can be had 50g for about $300.
>>70691043
>>70691043
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth"
>>70690412
>reflection is bad
okay, thanks dad
>>70690916
Go on..
>>70691043
On the first day God created >a fucking leaf
>>70691148
Amazing post an d i am too drunk
>>70688779
>innocence
Oh you're one of those people.
psychedelics are literally red-pilled.
>>70691180
Simple and easy. There was nothing and then something.
>>70687949
In 20 years time, psychadelics will be to psychology what the telescope was to astronomy.
>>70691162
Buy 4-AcO-DMT instead. It's mostly the same as psilocin, as the acetyl group gets hydrolyzed to HO forming 4-HO-DMT in vivo.
Also, try 4-HO-MET for a lighter, more visual shroom-like trip.
>>70690953
>sex/porn addiction
These things don't exist so yeah any placebo could help get rid of them. Whatever voodoo ritual you need to convince yourself you're not "addicted" anymore, call it a treatment.
>>70691076
>>70691148
I've got to try it
>>70691300
They're actually green pilled or at best,m bread/rainbow pilled.
>>70691148
I've nutted on acid. It wasn't easy though.
>>70688148
>>70690412
If anything, it's why one should.
>>70691162
>effective in treating depression and PTSD
You don't "treat" those things, they're not illnesses. They're extremely subjective personal experiences. So yeah, altering your consciousness severely enough would probably take you out of it.
>>70691388
>addiction doesn't exist
Why even reply? You can get addicted to literally anything if it releases enough dopamine into your brain.
>>70688896
Take LSD and find out, retard.
>>70688148
u cheeky kunt
>>70691617
Depression is because of chemical imbalances in your brain, stop commenting.
>>70690953
Taking mushrooms once turned me from a neckbeard basement dweller into productive member of society. I literally woke up the next day, sold my WoW account, enrolled in college classes, joined a gym and mass contacted females until I got a date. In 24 fucking hours.
For some people it's really helpful to have a mental reset button, if I'd had access to them at they key points in my life that led me to NEETdom my life would have been very, very different.
Never understood the hatred towards drugs...if you don't think you'll benefit, don't do them?
>>70691695
Dopamine "addiction" is really overblown if you compare it to opiates or benzos/GABA agonists.
>>70687949
>75ug
nigga that is barely enough to see colors and maybe some geometry
I never gotten ego death on anything lower than 300ug. Still, lsd is pretty useful for looking at things from another prospective, but it is a tool that should be used carefully and shouldn't be taken to escape.
>>70690709
neither do people who post on an anime porn website
>>70690865
Dark net nigger, most "lsd" you get on da screets isn't actual lsd, it's shitty research chems that will fuck up your brain
>>70691844
I just feel there are some things that are really fucked up about me and I can tell some of the things I do/think are definitely not normal. If psychedelics could give me a kickstart or some indepth introspection to why I'm such a fuck up, I'd like to try it.
>>70690287
I'm as degenerate as they come so yes I've done psychs. They're just another drug that gets you high. You think you're reborn but you're really just high.
>>70691764
i have taken lsd
i got fucked up
it was interesting
it was definitely a trip
the end
i'm not sure why some of you people want to pretend it's some kind of life changing experience while NEVER explaining how it transformed your life for the better
it's just burning brain cells which is nice but jesus christ quit with the bullshit hyperbole
you sound like junkies trying to get other people hooked on your bullshit
>>70692003
What's the fool proof way to use the dark net? I've heard ribbit has some guides
>>70690865
Darknet for LSD, clearnet for ALD-52 or 1P-LSD which are pretty much exactly like LSD itself.
AL-LAD is a more visual, lighter lysergamide that's also pretty fun, and ETH-LAD is like a middle ground between AL-LAD and LSD.
All of them are really great.
Having a 12 hour panic attack isn't for me
>>70690470
same
>>70692155
>i'm not sure why some of you people want to pretend it's some kind of life changing experience while NEVER explaining how it transformed your life for the better
Because they want to get more people to try it, and when enough people try it, they can use the "everyone does it, so why is it illegal" excuse to try to get it legalized.
>>70692155
This anon explains how it changed him
>>70691844
>>70687949
I wrote this song inspired by so much acid
https://soundcloud.com/couchtruthing/demon-nigger-69
>>70692314
Drug laws don't mean shit anyway, except the fact you don't have to pay the blood-sucking government any taxes for them when the drugs are illegal.
Of course, the government's loss is our gain.
This whole thread
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E_rk_kvB0Ww
>>70691369
>In 20 years time, neurology will be to psychology what the telescope was to astronomy.
Ftfy.
The whole point is to sort of refresh your brain and your perspective.
LSD like any drug is a tool. I do stimulants before work and hit the bong before dinner and once or twice a year I'll trip on something so I can reemerge with a fresh perspective on my life.
Feels great to be human and fiddle with my consciousness as I see fit. I'm not going to push it on anyone but if you protest it you're a dick bitch
>>70692618
Drug laws also get people thrown in jail
>>70692618
>400 tabs
my nigger
>>70689168
This is entirely the point. /pol/ thinking is extremely free and unconstrained. That's why THEY think we're crazy. Low IQ n00bs perhaps see some of the light only on LSD. And I do think everyone should try it.
>>70692179
Try ribbit and the hidden wiki onion. It'll take a decent amount of research to figure it out
>>70687949
Can we end the meme that LSD and drugs in general are a liberal thing to do or that LSD amd drugs will suddenly turn you liberal? Please? I've been conservative forever and i do LSD weekly, and it has only hardened my right wing views and built upon my social prowess. Ever convinced a liberal to vote for donald trump while both tripping? I have. So stop assuming so much about what drugs do to people when you havent done those drugs. Are you guys really so unconfident in your conservative beleifs that you think you will turn liberal like the flick of a switch if you just try LSD? Are you really so unconfident in your ability to restrain yourself from becoming a useless degenerate if you just try LSD? Or any drug for that matter? For a lot of you it just sounds like fear of the unknown, which is understandable, but to start filling the blanks on what the effects of LSD are without having tried it is religious tier trash material. When it comes to drugs the key is balance and control and then poof, you can have deep drug induced insight without the degenerate side affects.
>>70692390
>This anon explains how it changed him
This anon was also comically lying out his ass.
>>70690470
exactly this. I had very deep introspection about genetics, lineage, and individuation on a massive acid trip. Most people are literally genetic garbage and are only alive because of a very unnatural chain of resource extraction that rewards people for being dumb or dangerous.
Leftist ideology has one singular destination and that is chaos.
>>70690470
Me. I saw society as a big, interdependent purple cyclone. I, for the first time, realized how unsafe I was in it and how bad it could get. I came out ultra right wing.
>>70692155
>Different people
>Different experiences
This isn't a hard concept anon but it certainly changed something about me and helped solved a lot of problems noticeably with my productivity or lack thereof. But assuming that because I say that you think I'm a junkie who wants you to get hooked on >A FUCKING PSYCHADELIC I'd say you're just a massive faggot.
>>70692068
Try it, just obtaining a controlled substance in and of itself is a helpful confidence building exercise if you are a pussy.
Think of it this way: the worst that can happen is that you die, which you were going to do anyway at some point. Might as well spend your limited time here trying to optimize your enjoyment.
>>70692155
Depends on the person. Some folks, particularly ones with emotional issues, are genuinely paralyzed from taking the first step to change. When you get a few hours without that paralysis, it can lead to some deep (and much needed) insights.
>>70692865
>Drug laws also get people thrown in jail
Dumb people, yeah. I don't like it, but I don't cry myself to sleep either.
>>70692943
When I did LSD all I had was a crisis about why I had to carry things like a wallet and a phone around with me all the time. I was a heavy user and hit a streak of 4 bad trips in a row and pissed on myself thinking my guest bedroom was heaven and quit though.
>>70692954
>i do LSD weekly
Pretty sure it doesn't work that way. You can't take it that frequently and still trip balls.
Taken it, 150ug. Had taken the serotonin booster 5-HTP as the LSD was kicking in so had a very optimistic mood and had a fun tripping but for me the most important part was the comedown (self-reflection) stage. As I was getting into this stage my girlfriend came round to break up with me completely unexpectedly - had seen her just the night before.
I was on LSD on a comedown and with unexpected news that would normally have made me worse. But, instead of making me worse which would've happened under any other substance, even sober, I decided to sort myself out as there had been a range of issues deep down but I went out drinking and doing drugs instead of actually studying or addressing the underlying issues going on.
The next day, I woke up and did all the things I knew I had to do - applied for counselling, cleaned the entire house, binned the cigarettes, alcohol etc. and continued doing so for the rest of the term. Picked up old habits that i've always liked but just gradually stopped doing, such as sketching and reading as well as receiving the help and actually addressing the problems I had going on.
I know not all experiences are the same, but LSD did genuinely do me some good.
>>70687949
if anything wouldn't you want to link consciousness with other people in stead of messing up your own?
>>70690470
Made me realize that the "NRA sacrifices children on the altar of guns" argument was trash and that the NRA sacrifices children on the altar of freedom, a terrible but necessary thing.
>>70693193
Wrong, I've gone extended periods taking LSD weekly or even more often than that. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it but its certainly doable and has probably shaped who I am today.
The trips are almost, but not quite, as intense in my opinion as when you use it less frequently, but they kind of lose the "magic" feeling; it's a very subjective thing and in my opinion it amounts to more than just tolerance.
There are both benefits and drawbacks in my experience. Tripping frequently, again, can make you lose that "magical" feeling, but you can also become more comfortable with the headspace and have less trouble going on to much higher dosages and have a blast. I also feel as if when I'm using LSD infrequently the insights I get, while seemingly more profound, also have much less bearing on my actual daily life.
>>70690470
my own experience:
on LSD I felt absolute union with god. I could see how everyone was cut from the same cloth, even mudslimes and degenerates. And I loved them -- of course I did, I was god. But it occurred to me that I was an individual for a reason. If god didn't want me to be unique and weird and irritable and irrational, why did he make me a human? So I learned to embrace my identity, and that includes my heritage and my culture.
I realized that leftists are vainly pursuing this same sort of union. They try to recreate it artificially, by putting everyone on a level playing field, destroying "privilege," destroying race, destroying gender. They use this man-made equality to fill the spiritual void left by their atheism. But they will never achieve anything close to the real thing. And in the process, they destroy their individuality, spitting in the face of their creator.
>>70693398
>binned the cigarettes, alcohol
Particularly excellent choices here.
Especially with the booze. GABA agonists such as ethanol are nothing but bad for you when used habitually.
>>70689955
>>70692830
is there a fucking pasta for this?
>>70690470
100%.
My trips were very folkish - ancestors, tribe, kin. It made me be more tough on myself, start taking personal responsibility, and get into shape. Haven't felt the need to do psychedelics since either. 10/10.
>>70693718
Yeah, feel happier and far more driven than I've ever been before. At the time I felt as though I knew what needed to be done and the whole thought process was about how to go about doing it most efficiently.
I took two tabs like 14 hours ago and now I can't get to sleep so I can wake up in 4 hours.
I want the ride to end god damn it
>they chose the path of least resistance
>they didn't scale the summit
Sure is Pantheon Bar in here. Not that I expect /pol/ can into metaphor but enjoy your decadence faggots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h86uye11eD8
>>70693097
>>Different people
>>Different experiences
>>70693100
>Depends on the person
you can say that about literally anything. it's a non answer
religion works for some people
murder works for some people
i mean so fucking what? unless you're willing to say that anything can work for anyone, you're talking out of your ass
and if anything can work for anyone, what's the big fucking deal about frying your brain for some self assurance?
>>70688426
Thats bullshit I have family members who still have flashbacks and freakout a bit from taking LSD 20+years ago. When you actually know what you are talking about please come back.
>>70694032
God I am tempted to drop acid right here right now but it lasts for at least 12 hours. In fact 12 hours to base line so maybe add four hours until I can sleep. That is the thing with acid is that it takes a long time. Kind of why I like the nbomes is that the ride only last 8 hours and by 12 hours you are fine, but they are risky as fuck to take.
>>70694248
The only time I have acid flash backs is when I smoke weed a few days after I tripped and have taken a few 500ug + trips.
>>70691121
thang Q
>>70694379
My point is if it fucks with your brain enough to give you flash backs, how is this helping your brain?
>>70694151
>the consistent incorrect spelling and punctuation
>the obviously false conflations
I think I know what kind of cruise we're on gentleshits
>>70693627
ding ding ding
>>70694800
Flashbacks are a myth, senpai.
>>70694136
nice false dichotomy
>>70694248
This is pretty rare, I've only known one person who ever had flashbacks and I think he just had PTSD from a horrific trip
>>70694379
Really? For me I can often sleep after 8 at 200ug or less.
>>70688779
>innocence
It's not about innocent you dipshit.
They act like children, that means they have no idea what is going on, they know no fear yet they can be basically walking on a edge of a tall building because "they don't know any better"
>>70694971
>nodrugs
>hurr acid can't do that you're all lying
>>70695099
>they have no idea what is going on, they know no fear yet they can be basically walking on a edge of a tall building because "they don't know any better"
you seriously believe this? LOL
>>70694248
Then your family members are weak minded who couldnt control their thoughts and got bad trips.
Scrubs.
You have no idea how much shrooms and LSD can do for you. Try it, be amazed. I recommend Liberty Caps.
>>70693627
>They use this man-made equality to fill the spiritual void left by their atheism.
Atheist here, I fucking hate liberals. It's the whole reason I'm on this board. Where do I fit into the scheme of things?
>>70689955
>>70690122
>>70690252
The shills are automatic now I guess
>>70694800
>"Flash backs"
literally bullshit war on drugs propaganda
>All the volunteers had previously taken some type of psychedelic drug.
Bet the ones who got the placebo were pissed.
>if u do a drugs then you will become a baby forever so don't try lsd
Seriously as fucking stupid and ignorant as the people we slam for being blue pilled.
>>70693193
Have you ever done it? If not please stop implying that you know.
You can trip every week easily, LSD passes through your system quickly allowing for tolerance to fall quickly as well.
>>70695272
edgy 18 year old
>>70695272
you're me before I took LSD.
I grew up an atheist. I never understood wtf people were talking about when they discussed anything spiritual. It just sounded like complete hogwash.
But the psychedelic experience was incredibly compelling, so much so that it was hard for me to take a breath and remind myself that it was all in my head. If you've never had a "spiritual experience," you're missing out on one of the most incredible feelings that humans are capable of.
The only error atheists commit is thinking they've hit intellectual bedrock. So much of their identity is tied up in their implicit worship of Reason and Science. Acid showed me that there is no bedrock; no objective truth. It's scary. But until you confront it, you haven't fully matured intellectually.
>>70690470
reporting in
mine wasn't from LSD though, it was from DMT.
i felt absolute love, and knew in some way I'd be at peace after I died, so i stopped being so cautious about risks
my life has gotten immeasurably better as a result of it, that's how i got my wife and a good ass job
>>70695431
LSD tolerance doesn't really have much to do with how quickly it passes through your system
From my understanding, to put it simply, LSD agonizes serotonin receptors and causes them to strongly downregulate; tolerance persists until these receptors upregulate to back where they were before and will bind & respond to these exogenous ligands in the same manner, which is usually mostly finished after a week but not entirely.
>>70690470
Reporting in, I saw a vision of my ancestors, 1000's of generations. It made me understand the value of heritage. Made me realize that the mindless hedonism that the left pushes would be a great disgrace to the struggles my ancestors went through.
>>70695756
That makes sense to me. The first time I took mushrooms the afterglow lasted an entire week.
>>70695789
indeed. I actually just wrote about this an hour ago.
"It all takes so much effort. Every particle in this universe is constantly fighting for their own continued existence. Only force of will has wrenched them out of the void and held them here for a while. My heart will beat incessantly for my entire life. I am the confluence of so much structure and complexity and intention. A billion billion cells have sacrificed themselves that I might live. How could anyone in good conscience spend their life indulging in pleasant frivolities?"
>>70695756
That's a fairly accurate explanation.
Here's more-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbUGRcuA16E
Thank the gods for men like Dr.Nichols.
>>70694379
>God I am tempted to drop acid right here right now but it lasts for at least 12 hours.
Longest one of my trips has been was 5 hours. COnfirmed noob psychadelic adventurer.
>>70695272
LSD won't necessarily give anyone reason to become religious. Many people, myself included, have felt more connected to the rest of existence during and after trying psychotropic drugs.
It's difficult to explain, but, you already know that you are an unimaginably tiny being in a chaotic brilliant, terrifyingly huge universe.
You know these things, but they're at a certain emotional distance because the human brain isn't equipped to fully realize them.
For some, LSD allows the user to become more emotionally aware of these realities.
>>70695685
>no objective truth
It's this same thinking that's leading the left to do all the kinds of retarded shit they do.
oh look, it's the
>If brain scans of Group A and Group B look the same then they're both operating the same way
popsci meme
>>70696217
you're not gettin real acid then
>>70690470
Me. Mainly because I was tripping on 2 tabs while browsing /pol/ and it was the night that dindu Tony Robinson got killed by a cop. So it made me not like nigs even more. I also watched porn while tripping and now my lust is ridiculous. I suggest not tripping that hard by yourself. Shit got very wild that night....
>>70696217
How's 25C-NBOMe treating you?
LSD cured my anxiety. If you know what you're doing, are a healthy individual and have the right state of mind, this drug is godly.
Too bad degenerate hippies in the 60s and retards who do drugs just to party give it a bad name.
>>70688148
First post best post
>>70690470
Not psychedelics, but my occasional marijuana use helped me understand why traditions are an important and integral part of any human culture and that cultural Marxism is one of the largest evils we face.
Hasn't had any effect on my views on self defense - I dislike pacifist hippies
>>70696319
exactly. There's a huge gulf between intellectual knowledge and felt experience.
Some philosophers debate this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualia), but only in theory, not practice. Swimming is nothing like the idea of swimming. Love is nothing like the idea of love.
>>70696338
We are all inevitably driven by what we WANT to be true, not what is actually true. Leftists take that in one direction; we take it in another. See my other post for speculation on why leftists believe what they do: >>70693627
>>70693776
There is now
>>70689723
Don't do this. It makes mustard gas
>>70688426
>the point is LSD is completely harmless
tell that to all the people who took too much and never came back, or to all the people who got sprayed by Israel during the 6 day war and got assblasted by their military
>>70690470
Whenever I dropped LSD and some Jew was around it felt weird for some reason.
So it allows for one to look at things without preconceived notions? Cool.
I can't see how anyone would find anything wrong with that, unless they never want to think outside their specific belief paradigm.
Psychedelics are just something skeptics need to try to know where defenders like us are coming from. An acid trip is just incomparable to anything except other psychedelics. I honestly believe every human on Earth should try at least one LSD or mushroom trip before they die. It's just indescribable but it's very beautiful and profound, and unique and I can't help but feel anyone who doesn't at least try it is missing out on a grand experience.
I think the mistake that is being made is assuming they're like other drugs, i.e. alcohol, and therefore just turns people into idiots for a little bit while releasing happy chemicals in the brain.
Not true for psychedelics. They act on serotonin, which is a "happy chemical" but everyone's heard of a bad trip.
Usually, instead of letting you forget bad thoughts, psychedelics like LSD will instead force you to think about it and consider the issue with a fresh, new perspective "like a baby" and can help you understand the issue better and see it from a new angle, which can aid in acceptance and moving on.
That's just an example.
Psychedelic assisted psychotherapy was a successful field with proven results until reactionary drug laws came about.
>>70690153
>a perscription from a psychiatrist
fuck that, psychiatry was a scam set up by Edward Bernays to enforce political control over the population, never go to a psychiatrist
ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II96QkZaz1E
>>70695685
>no objective truth.
That's so utterly retarded I don't even know where to begin.
>>70689955
>LSD like any drug is a tool.
used by the military to achieve military objectives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiVxbS02kp0
>>70691300
they started orange
>>70696941
>took too much and never came back
nice meme, too bad that peer-reviewed studies have found no statistically significant difference in number of psychotic episodes between psychedelic users and non-users, and found that psychedelic users are less likely to suffer from anxiety or mood disorders
>>70697002
>reactionary
Reactionary drug policy would be to legalize all drugs; reactionary means to reenact the past, not to react to something
>>70691121
rare knowledge
this leaf is sacred
>>70692618
>the government's loss is our gain.
only if you invest in publicly traded firms that launder drug profits for her majesty
>>70692155
You're supposed to turn your mind in on itself and examine who you think "you" are.
Not listen to Steely Dan and stare at your linoleum.
>>70696422
Yeah people's brains are unique so
>don't look for patterns in brain activity
>prescriptive and prescriptive neurology completely is beyond the epistemological barriers of science
don't reproduce
great troll post though
>>70697060
I don't think you understand what he means by that
BTW, don't do stims if you're right-leaning and prone to showing your power level to society's scouters.
I nearly caused a small riot once at a 7 Eleven while amped on a-PVP, during the Mike Brown fiasco. Had to bug out fast, good thing my car is up to snuff.
>>70697191
maybe but some people out there took thousands of doses at once and they were never the same again, if these substances were legal that would have never happened to them, but don't kid yourself and pretend they aren't potentially dangerous, they're about as potentially dangerous as human beings can get, which is pretty dangerous
>>70687949
>spiritual states of bliss are essentially, LITERALLY innocence
yeah we fucking know, even the fucking christians know this, they worship purity and innocence because in those moments we feel that childlike, infantile bliss
youre fucking retarded
>>70697352
>thousands of doses at once
you're like one of those people who attempt to ban all guns because some rare idiots can't grasp the concept of "don't put the barrel in your mouth and pull the trigger"
>>70688663
It's not like you're tripping balls every day of your life. I have a good career, am still predominantly conservative, and have tripped on both mushrooms and acid before.
I'm not sure I would recommend doing it frequently, but it's definitely a worthwhile experience.
>>70697262
>You're supposed to turn your mind in on itself and examine who you think "you" are.
or you could do the best work of your life, like Doc Ellis Francis Crick or Jimmy Hendrix
but you have to be brilliant to start with, if you're a dummy drugs won't make you smart
>>70697352
yeah, they were never the same again because they went through an intense fucking experience -- if you, for example, went to war, you'd probably be permanently altered by it.
ask those people themselves what they think about their experiences and the overwhelming majority will tell you they believe them to have had a positive long-term effect.
>>70697060
post an objectively true statement and I'll admit I was wrong
well babies are more or less blank slates that can be molded to nearly any culture of language
so LSD could then be used as a mind control drug
>>70697461
I never said I wanted to ban anything, I'm just saying I know that scene better than anyone else, Brotherhood of Eternal Love reporting in, what do you pussy little bitches want to know about the CIA?
>>70690008
what kind of fucking dumb nigger do you have to be to actually impose reasoning onto other people for the things they do?
>>70695171
do the drug before you pretend to know what it does to you.
>>70697550
>what is MKULTRA
they tried that and it kind of had the opposite effect
>>70697550
MKULTRA called.
"I've always thought this was one of the things that proved that God had a sense of humor, that if
Gabriel came up and said, 'Hey chief, the Americans are really messed up down there, we've got to do
something to straighten them out,' and God says, 'Well, send them some of that stuff you've been working
on, that "acid" stuff... and have the CIA distribute it.' You can hear the celestial laughter..."
>>70697509
That's not how objectivity works dipshit, but just to humor you: this sentence is made of words.
>>70697484
>ask those people themselves what they think about their experiences and the overwhelming majority will tell you they believe them to have had a positive long-term effect.
yeah, thats the dangerous part, they made people complacent and easily manipulated when they were supposed to be active and organized, thats what the shit does, makes you easily manipulated when you could be forming competent political action
the danger is misuse by those who administer it, having it illegal makes sure it will only be available when it benefits those who seek to control
and having an organization control you using mind altering psychedelics can be pretty devastating in case you haven't noticed how bad our nation has been fucked over by Marxist bullshit since the LSD hit the scene
>>70695685
>encounter the spiritual
>...
>conclude "there's nothing that's objective"
That doesn't follow. Subjectivity is the very root of modern decay, and I say this having arrived where you are in the past. You don't understand the absurd yet, so you can't see that while efforts at a purely objective understanding by means of the physical are indeed short-sighted, with the inclusion of the metaphysical there is what we would refer to as eternal and objective truth within reach. You tied your experiences to the chemicals themselves, and neglected the actual movements of your own consciousness which amount to your own action. You say it showed you, but you must understand that this line of belief was already inside you, as it is in anyone who finds themselves so concerned with reason and the material that they neglect themselves as a being with characteristics which cannot be described just by the physical.
>>70697606
Stupid fuck, I've used LSD 3-4 times a month for a year straight, usually between 200 and 400ug, never thought it would be a good idea to do some dumb shit like walk on the edge of a fucking rooftop.
>>70687949
no shit LSD does that. the problem is if you go back to that state then your environment is going to shape you just like it shapes you as a baby. if youre in a bad environment you can come out as a totally different person.
>>70697550
>so LSD could then be used as a mind control drug
the4y couldn't give heroin to white kids as hard as they did to the niggers so they came up with LSD to control them instead
but the whole thing was an experiment in play
>>70697640
>MKUltra
>opposite effect
they used LSD to put the subjects into a very frail and weak state, scared the absolute fuck out of them, waterboarded them, then relied on their own brain to censor the fact that happened
later trials resulted in the ability to put a "trigger word" in their heads that would bring back all memories at will, and normally (in the right candidates) result in an extreme outburst of anger resulting in injuries and deaths
so yes, similar to mind control
>>70690153
>wanting to require a script for LSD
shit nigger how much of a cuck can you be
>>70697886
>later trials resulted in the ability to put a "trigger word" in their heads that would bring back all memories at will,
this usually only works on the very young, the best results were found by administering electroshock to newborns and 4 more times between the ages of 2 and 9
>>70697814
did not mean to reply to you, meant to reply to the person you replied to who implied that people necessarily act retarded on LSD.
>>70690470
My acid trip just made my gender dysphoria worse so I'm going to say the opposite actually
>>70697965
why should you need a script for anything?
if it's available they should have it be available, why do you need to go through a gatekeeper to get access to available meds?
thats fucking bullshit, my body my decision
>>70697983
>this usually only works on the very young
and the emotionally unstable, that's why they picked up homeless and streetwalkers instead of normal people
> the best results were found by administering electroshock to newborns and 4 more times between the ages of 2 and 9
interesting, talk about this more?
>loads of people going on about a topic they have no own experience in
>>70697996
>implied that people necessarily act retarded on LSD.
yeah but once you get used to that shit some scary stuff can happen, like easily crawling up the side of a 20 story building with your hands and shit like that
>>70697191
>reactionary means to reenact the past, not to react to something
It's weird how wrong you are
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reactionary
>relating to, marked by, or favoring reaction; especially : ultraconservative in politics
>>70688148
it's not literally the mind of a baby, idiot, it brings you in a state of egolessness and awe and alternative perception of the world
I only tried acid once and it was a couple years ago, I dont regret it, I think it's something everyone should try at least once
>>70697803
clearly the experience is not "in the drug" anymore than meaning is "in" a haiku. A key and a lock are useless on their own.
I have made peace with the fact that I was doomed from the outset to find the "truth" that I subconsciously desired. No one can fully escape their own biases.
>a being with characteristics which cannot be described just by the physical
why should I believe I am more than physical? What would it even mean to be more than physical? I have a hard time wrapping my head around dualism. I don't see any spiritual dilemma in viewing consciousness as an emergent property of the brain.
Your post is intriguing though. Maybe you can help me out a little more.
>>70698112
>interesting, talk about this more?
there is an MKULTRA programmer's guide someplace on the internet, the whole MKultra thing is very old, probably originally put into play by the catholic church,
it's a lifestyle, people beat and rape their kids to ensure meanness as a survival trait, the next generation gains cognitive abilities, super memory, enhanced perception and shit like that, you can go down to pentagon sublevel c2 to read more
>>70697884
>the4y couldn't give heroin to white kids as hard as they did to the niggers so they came up with LSD to control them instead
Boy howdy, gotta love those moraltard pharmacology courses they offer at Dick U.
LSD is definitely an interesting drug that I think people should try atleast once
But dear god, all these faggots claiming they found enlightenment through a drug
Friendly reminder, if you need outside "help" to reach enlightenment, you are only reaching false enlightenment
>>70691121
this post makes my day.
>>70698112
not homeless people, more often the bastard children of european royalty, or anyone with a genetic ability for paranormal type nonsense, irish native americans and what not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R45UOI-PlEo
>>70688148
Guaranteed (You)
>>70690470
>pondering /pol/itics while tripping
Disgusting.
>>70698310
>it brings you in a state of egolessness and awe and alternative perception of the world
no, it just shows you a little bit of truth about how the entire world is made of light, a hologram, just like our top scientists have been saying for a while now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1vYHOPFgcg
>>70698537
I'm not watching an hour plus of drugs and conspiracies and shit. Summarize plox
>>70697550
>blank slate Psychology
Common you fucking leaf
https://www.ted.com/talks/steven_pinker_chalks_it_up_to_the_blank_slate?language=en
Steven Pinker is your kin
Blank slate psychology is now the basis of all Liberal moral reasoning. And it's wrong.
>>70691121
>you'll only get into heaven if you take these chemicals trust me goy
>>70697550
it brings you in a state of egolessness, ascend
okay you acid freaks
tell us just one universal truth that acid has taught you
good luck you fucking faggots!
>An adult having the mind of a baby is somehow a good thing, and not completely retarded and dangerous
t. Redditors
>>70698439
it's the truth, people would have complained if they pushed heroin that hard on white kids, they needed something less damaging for the whites
but yeah dope and empire, nothing new about any of it, just look at Chinese coolies and who roped those fools out, because these days the same thing is happening here. We have our very own opium war happening in the USA right now
>>70688148
FIRST POST
BEST POST
>>70698625
whgat?
im tired of you fucking idiots. leave me the fuck alone and go be retarded somewhere else
>>70698768
>>70697060
>"There is no objective truth" is objectively true
contradiction? paradox? You decide.
>>70698643
>Summarize plox
they torture people from a very young age, since birth, you have to be born into a military family, you were also probably raped as a child,
if you're tough enough they train you to become a super killed like you can kill people with your mind or you can get hit by a car and it's no problem
like these 2 bitches who assassinated some British minister
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6KJUUYsoec
>>70698661
I don't think we're blank, that's retarded considering races of people have behavior inclinations and instincts just like animals.
Shit like tool making and music/dancing styles are in our genes.
A baby however, can learn nearly every language and adapt to nearly any culture.
So if you made someone be reduced to a baby like mind state, you could in theory "re write" them.
>>70688148
Baby's have neuroplasticity out the ass. This is a bad thing how?
I wrote a bunch of my college English papers on LSD and received amazing marks on all of them.
>>70698091
I agree with you. I hate the idea of a nanny state when it comes to legal adults
>>70688824
god damn i laughed hard at this post
>>70698768
>tell us just one universal truth that acid has taught you
the world is made of light, the entire universe is a hologram, you can bend reality using your imagination
which is why when you wish for something when you come it is more likely to come true
been trying to get some group meme magic going with that shit for a while but so far no takers
>>70699056
i'll meme with you
what are we wishing for?
>>70688148
fuck off normalfag
>>70699056
I hope you're not talking about the Law of Attraction
If you wish for something to come, you get off your ass and go try and get it.
I feel like people who take comfort in ideas like the law of attraction are the ones unable to realise the reason they haven't achieved things is because of their own inaction.
>>70696217
My trip on 2 tabs lasted 16 before I fell asleep, and it's supposed to last at least 12. Needless so say you're getting Jewed, goy.
>>70698841
our best scientists say our universe is most like a hologram, prove them wrong, when you take LSD you see the light in everything, because everything is light constrained by the laws of this universe,
which is why all ancient texts and traditions have a metaphor towards consuming hallucinogens, like the bible, where the word of god is contained inside a box made of acacia, acacia has huge amounts of DMT in it, so the word of god is kept within the acacia in the bible, I'm not religious but that book is amazing if you examine it both mathematically and chemically
Can the psychedelics turn you into a liberal meme please fucking die?
I use psychedelics sometimes, and I'm fairly staunchly conservative.
Fucking cucks trying to tell us what we can put in our bodies.
Have you ever met a baby? They're fucking retarded and can't do shit. Why would I want to have a mental state like a baby's?
>>70698791
You're comparing two completely separate types of pharmacological agents as though they are the same.
You, and politicians/cops like you need to be exterminated for the good of humanity.
You're like those idiots who call cocaine a narcotic.
>>70693627
Damn I agree.
>>70698240
you're using the wrong definition of reaction, retard
>>70690470
Red pilled best friend showed me the invasion of Europe and Become a holocaust denier in 14 minutes while on 250 ug at first my brain would let me believe what I was seeing, was a pretty hardcore lib shit stoner beta cuck, but it lead to my investigation into /pol/ and such and eventually to who I am now, a proud nationial socialist.
Really changed my life, highly recommend.
>>70696217
le fake acid man. shame, anyone who sells fake acid should have their penal gland shot out from there cranium.
>>70698618
>policing people's psych trips
disgusting
>>70699172
>what are we wishing for?
well I wanted the Bush family to come clean and apologize for their hand in organizing the hit on president Kennedy
but we can do anything so I don't know, maybe better to pick something a large group of people would be interested in
squeeze one out for aliens landing on the white house lawn?
I mean statistically the more likely something is to happen on it's own the easier it would be to meme it into existence, the more complicated your meme ritual the more likely for it to become reality
I don't know what do you think?
I want mega lulz, we could meme everyone to write in Rick Astley for president but I wouldn't want to see the poor guy suffer like that
>>70690625
A million bumps
>>70690470
When I was 19 years old, I tripped on LCD for the first time. I took way more than I knew how to handle at the time, and things got strange. I was trapped in an endless time cycle of connection with an interdimmensional/telepathic being. 'God' really. I came to the conclusion in self discussion with this entity, whom is also myself, that man is merely animal. We really do enjoy setting ourselves apart from other biological creatures, but our measure of intelligence is only based on ourselves because we are at the apex of understanding. In this line of thought, I realized that not all animals, including humans, are created the same. Society along with the invention of currency has created the environment for unnatural creatures to survive. We have become 'too smart for our own good'. We are allowing the weak to live, while simultaneously punishing the strong through out breeding. The expirience helped me realize though that all people have their own motives, instincts, wishes, anger, ect. I feel the human aspect of empathy and sympathy, even pity for those who are living beyond their genetic capabilities through the misguided inventions and teachings of our worlds leftist thinkers. Thats sortof the begining of my tribal mentality. We, as animals, require tribal society and protection from outside tribes through either defensive or offensive means. Tribes are now nations. LSD should not be taken lightly. Shit happens when you're tripping balls.
red pill me on mkultra pol, plz.
>>70699206
yeah but I've made some really impossibly weird shit go down, some things you can't just go get, like bringing someone back from the dead, but with meme magic we can try but it's statistically quite unlikely,
but the thing is, it's statistically very likely for everyone to remember a history that never actually happened, so we could meme everyone into remembering our own false version of history and really whats the difference then weather you raised the dead or everyone just thought you raised the dead even though you didn't it's statistically very possible for a large number of people to believe some really dumb impossible shit actually happened
the effect is the same
>>70698043
I had one bad trip but it helped me regardless
>>70699257
dude I have a friend who reacted similarly to what I'm hearing you say. Except was legitimately mentally ill for about 6 months (luckily he got better and quit smoking weed). He believed in the 'laws of the universe' and how when we die we transcend our human selves into this incomprehensible form of being. How everything can be manipulated but we just need to unlearn and reach the true state of enlightenment (see the religious theme here). It was something he couldn't prove but just knew in his core to be true.
He also started believing in certain government conspiracies, like tampering with water to insert chemicals that intentionally dumbed the public down. So it sounded like an onset of schizophrenia.
All I'm saying is, he realises now how crazy he sounded. If you feel like your beliefs are getting to outlandish, maybe you should see someone about it.
>>70698770
Remember when you were a baby for like 3 years?
You didn't die and you're alright now.
What makes you think experiencing that again for a few hours is somehow unacceptable?
Watching a group of drunk people from the perspective of sobriety takes me closer to the preschool classroom than anything else I can think of. The "acceptable" drugs, habits, and entertainments of American society are all seeking child-like loss of inhibition and emotional baggage.
>>70692155
>i got fucked up
>it was interesting
>it was definitely a trip
>the end
You didn't take LSD
>>70699297
>You're comparing two completely separate types of pharmacological agents as though they are the same.
politically they're the same, they're both controlled so highly profitable for people who either manufacture the chemicals needed for their refinement or for those who launder the black market money involved, chemicals are chemicals, we should have open access to all of them
you shouldn't advocate for people being exterminated, if someone exterminates you then you'll have no right to complain because you thought it was a good idea
but I agree I'm dangerous, I have the autograph of a former most dangerous man in America sitting on my desk
>>70690953
what's next, food addiction?
>>70699421
making real acid is very difficult, one of the best chemists was the ghost who manufactured for the psychedelicatessin in NYC, he was the first to make blotter dots, he later brought his skillset to the CIA who were having a hard time finding a chemist who was good enough at the time,
when you make a really good batch it will glow blue in the dark
here is Eric, it's ok to talk about him he's dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPA00vFg2L8&nohtml5=False
