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Hillary Clinton Doubles Down On Fight For LGBT Equality
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>>70665654
I hate faggots just as much as any red blooded man, but this bitch makes me feel bad for gay people, the way she double crosses them while being a raging dike.
She should run for president a little less and eat out Huma a little more, just sayin
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>>70665654

We dropped the G, it's LBT now.

Faggots get out. No one likes you
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>>70665654

She knows that gays will vote for her anyway, so why pander to them?
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redpilled my gay friend on clinton. feels so good!
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>>70665866
>raging dike.

What source do you have she's a lesbian outside of conspiracy theory bullshit?
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>>70665654
And you idiots follow moles like milo
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>>70665654

Panders to gays and muslims. Its like mixing water and oil.
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>>70665654
What rights do they not have? Are they asking for more equality?
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>>70666037
Nah they're split with Sanders. She has to catch em all
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>>70666331
>What rights do they not have?

Employment, housing, public accommodations, trans people can't legally serve in the military still, etc.
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>>70666347
>Nah they're split with Sanders. She has to catch em all

Plus there is a lot of gay people in NYC. Huge Democrat voting bloc.
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>>70666347
>split with sander
If by split you mean that she has three times as many LGBT supporters, then yes. If you are implying its a 50/50 split then no.
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>>70666739
>Employment, housing, public accommodations, trans people can't legally serve in the military still,
>military

that has to be bullshit the military is already incredibly pozzed
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>>70666739
>also
>legally required public accommodations for .3% of the population
>forcing business to pander to a bunch of freak shows and spend millions of dollars because they can't handle using the right bathroom

This is why everyone hates trans.
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>>70667291
>legally required public accommodations for .3% of the population

Worked real well in prior to 1964 for black people right?

>This is why everyone hates trans.

Why should trans people be discriminated against and deny serves, medical care, and employment? Why do hate people so much?
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>>70665654
There are no rights gay people don't have. The left seems to have a very broad definition of what a right is.
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haha i didnt even think that the T in lgbt stood for trans. i just assumed it was gay people wanting more stuff
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>>70667624
>There are no rights gay people don't have.
See
>>70666739
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>>70667680

Jesus, you're dumb.
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>>70667426
>Why should trans people be discriminated against

It's not discriminating against a man to tell him he can't go into a woman's changing room.
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>>70665654
You know what's funny? People hounded Paula Dean (the tv cook celebrity) for making a somewhat racist comment 10+ years ago yet these same people are most likely support Hillary Clinton after she outright said she didn't like blacks or homosexuals many years ago
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>>70667857
jesus cant help me brah im too far gone
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>>70667426
>Worked real well in prior to 1964 for black people right?

Not very well for Detroit or any other inner city since blacks are mostly retarded criminals

>Why should trans people be discriminated against and deny serves,

Because they are freaks
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>>70665654
>double down
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>>70667857
>It's not discriminating against a man to tell him he can't go into a woman's changing room.

You seem to be focusing a lot of bathrooms and sex. Are you ready to come out of the closet anon? Trans people make up like 1% of the population? Do you think there is a huge epidemic of this?
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>>70667997
>Because they are freaks

Wow what a great argument. Bring that argument to the US Supreme Court and see where that gets you anon.
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>>70668049
It's a phrase in gambling anon

you should come to Vegas.
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She hated gays up until a few years ago. Lying for votes. I hope someone puts a bullet in this cunts head.
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>>70667904
>she didn't like blacks or homosexuals many years ago

When did she say that anon? She never did. You are just making shit up. Hillary has always fought for the African American and LGBTQI community.
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>>70666739
These are all false. Trans people can have jobs and houses, and they can and have served in the military. I'm not sure what you mean by "public accomodations", but the rest of your post is bullshit so I'm going to assume this is bullshit too.
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>>70668170
>Wow what a great argument

Thank you. They are mentally ill I agree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7NYWd7p-zE

>US Supreme Court

You mean a court full of kikes and cucklicks?

Yeah I'm sure that would go well
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>>70668099

I said changing room. Can you read?

It's trannies who are completely obsessed with enroaching on women's private space. They need to butt out and stop telling the rest of us what to think and say.

> Do you think there is a huge epidemic of this?

Yes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36010664
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Identity politics on both sides is caused by class division. Breaking up the big banks and instituting true socialism (direct worker ownership of the means of production, not liberal redistribution) would greatly reduce racism and sexism more than anything else would.

Of course Bernie wouldn't do this either, he isn't a socialist, just a liberal. The only difference between candidates is the amount of redistribution - they''re all fundamentally liberals, Trump included.
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>>70668272
What he means is that you can't sue someone to refuse hiring a transfreak

At least not yet. Although in NYC you get sued by the govenrment if you call them the wrong pronoun.
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>>70668256
>>70668170
>>70668099
>>70667750
>>70667426
>>70666792
>>70666739
>>70666057
I feel like this is a troll
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBk-NbMFFsw
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>>70668272
>Trans people can have jobs and houses

Yeah, but in reality they're unemployably mentally ill.

> and they can and have served in the military.

So they're poorly educated welfare queens with no prospects.

>>70668256
> LGBTQI community.

No such thing. Fuck off.
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>>70668272
>Trans people can have jobs and houses,

Look up the unemployment and poverty rate among trans people, especially trans people of color and get back to me anon. You need to check your cis gendered privilege.

>and they can and have served in the military.

Not until the spring of 2016 when the military lifts the ban on trans people from legally serving.

>I'm not sure what you mean by "public accomodations",

Public accommodations means a business owner can't put up signs saying NO TRANS ALLOWED
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>>70668272
the problem is that in many places trans people (and gay people) can be denied employment, housing, and medical care based on no other grounds besides the fact they're trans. that isn't right
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>>70665654
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>>70668593
>Look up the unemployment and poverty rate among trans people,

Look up the rate of poverty and unemployment of other batshit insane crazy people

It's about the same.
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>>70668426
>enroaching on women's private space.

Since when did right wingers care about women? All you people care about is controlling women's right to choose.

>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36010664

>UK

Why the fuck should I care?
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>>70665654
She was rabidly anti gay marraige pre 2011, I believe Google.com has some videos of her talking about it.
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>>70668607
>the problem is that in many places trans people (and gay people) can be denied employment, housing,

business should be allowed to deny service to whoever they want
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>>70668733
>She was rabidly anti gay marraige pre 2011,

This is Hillary in 1999:

https://partners.nytimes.com/library/politics/camp/120999sen-ny-dem.html

Hillary Rodham Clinton told a group of gay contributors this week that the "don't ask, don't tell" policy, intended to make it easier for gay men and lesbians to serve in the military, had been a failure, her aides said Wednesday. Mrs. Clinton, a candidate for the United States Senate, said that if elected she would work to overturn the policy, one of the first put in place under President Clinton.
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>>70668781
>business should be allowed to deny service to whoever they want

So you are a racist, sexist, and a homophobic bigot?
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>>70668699
trans people are generally entirely functional and productive people when given the same opportunities people who aren't trans are given
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>>70668709
>Since when did right wingers care about women?
>le all right wing is rapists meme

you can tell every transfreak wishes it could be a feminist that accuses everyone who looks at them wrong as a rapist.
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>>70665654
>Clinton Doubles Down On Fight For LGBT Equality
You mean after not giving a single shit until this election?

FUCK OFF HILLARY.
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>>70666935
>If we put out this fire, would it end cancer? Would it make people more welcoming of AIDS overnight?
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>>70668781
that isn't how it works in the united states and it hasn't worked that way for a very long time
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>>70668885
I believe in freedom of of association


>>70668890
they have some of the highest suicide rates in the world even after cutting their dicks off

they are currently classified as having a mental illness even by the DSM
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>>70666150
Gay here. Fuck Hillary and fuck Muslims.

She can have them.
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>>70668593
>Look up unemployment and poverty rate among trans people
If I was doing a job interview and a guy walked in with a wig and a dress on with makeup smeared on his face and did the entire interview in falsetto I wouldn't hire him regardless of what gender he identifies with.

>Not until
So it's already happened, fuck off

>a business owner can't put up signs
This doesn't happen. There are a few small businesses that have put up signs against Muslims, but none that I've heard of against trans. Sounds like you're just making shit up.

>>70668607
>employment, housing, medical care
Show me one example of this happening, not because they started shit, but because the employer/seller/doctor disliked trans.
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>>70668896
>le all right wing is rapists meme

Which political party do most women vote for? The DEMOCRATIC party and you better believe a lot of women are coming out to vote for Hillary our FIRST WOMEN PRESIDENT!
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>>70665654
Hilariously related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3iBb1gvehI
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>>70668940
It works like that as long as you only refuse service to whites, Christians, males, etc
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>>70665654
>A battle for literally 1 to >1% of the population
Bravo
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Faggot kikes belong in reconditioning camps. They are casualties of society.
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>>70669044
>If I was doing a job interview and a guy walked in with a wig and a dress on with makeup smeared on his face and did the entire interview in falsetto I wouldn't hire him regardless of what gender he identifies with.

Why would you deny someone services and employment based on something they were BORN with?

>This doesn't happen.

I can name a couple of shops that have done it.

>Show me one example of this happening, not because they started shit, but because the employer/seller/doctor disliked trans.

It's called google.
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>>70669100
>whites, Christians, males, etc

You mean the group in America that's always had privilege in this country?
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>>70669007
>they have some of the highest suicide rates in the world

funny how people get treated like absolute shit by society tend to not take it very well? you can't force people into homelessness because you refuse to give them jobs or housing then expect them to not be impacted by that negatively
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>>70669100
That you are too dumb to sue doesn't mean it works like that

white christian men can and have won discrimination cases
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>>70669255
>>70669335
Someone triggered about not being able to shit in the little girls room?
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>>70668890
I have yet to see any evidence of a trans person being "functional and productive". The most "productive" trans person I've seen is Brianna Wu, and I don't think making a couple of shitty video games and then being a perpetual victim for the rest of your life counts as "productive".
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>>70665654
>Clinton doubles

-She's a she
-She's fat
-She's old
-She's a baby boomer
-She's a member of the wealthiest 1%
-She's the face of establishment politics
-She's a globalist neo-con
-She's of, by, and for the collusion between big govt and big corp
-She's a shameless liar
-She's the most non-transparent politician in history
-She has stroke-induced brain damage
-She's a cuckquean

She is literally every reason not to vote for a politician all rolled into one person. But wait, there's more:

-She was fired from the Watergate investigation for lying and being unethical
-She lied about being named after Sir Edmund Hillary
-She lied throughout her Whitewater scandal
-She lied about taking "sniper fire" when visiting the Balkans during 90s
-She lied about Benghazi
-She lied throughout her email scandal and continues to lie about it
-She lied about being broke after leaving the White House
-She described blacks as being "super-predators"
-She hired a VP of Goldman-Sachs to be her 2016 campaign manager.
-She received millions of dollars from Goldman-Sachs for speaking engagements
-Her "charity" received tens of millions of dollars from Goldman-Sachs, JP Morgan, Citigroup, and UBS
-Her "charity" received tens of millions of dollars from China, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Yemen, Qatar, and the UAE
-She supported the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and Turkey
-She voted for the Patriot Act twice
-She was "adamantly against illegal immigration" before she was for it
-She was opposed to gay marriage before she was for it
-She was a lawyer who defended a rapist and laughed at the plight of the 12 year old rape victim
-She approved the sale of US uranium to Russian nuclear corporations in exchange for millions of dollars in donations to her "charity"
-She gave out eight Secretary of State's Awards for Corporate Excellence, and seven were to corporations that donated millions to her "charity"

She is literally every reason not to vote for a politician all rolled into one person.
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>>70668341
This man is correct. Trans people are deluded faggots. I know several of them and they are all awful human beings who literally want the white race to disappear.
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>>70669335
>always had privilege

oy vey

>>70669354
If suicide is caused by being treated badly why do niggers have the lowest suicide rates in the world?

>>70669414
kek

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/25748/
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>>70668896

Has anyone else fapped to her porno video? I still do from time to time.
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>>70669255
>they were BORN with
You were born with a wig, a dress, and makeup smeared on your face?

>I can name a couple of shops
So do it

>It's called google
It's called "I don't have a source but I'm sure if you Google it for long enough there might be something"
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>>70669705
why do you think all trans people wear wigs or don't know how to use makeup?
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>>70669705
>You were born with a wig, a dress, and makeup smeared on your face?
Would you refuse a woman with all that shit on?

No?

Then your problem seems to be with dick.
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>>70669414
>can and have
Sure buddy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regents_of_the_University_of_California_v._Bakke
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>>70665654
ok
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>>70669518
the wachowskis are trans and make large budget movies, so,

but yeah go ahead and pretend you've never seen or heard of any trans people living relatively normal lives
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>>70669929
meanwhile in this millenium

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricci_v._DeStefano
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>>70669907
Your problem seems to be that you believe trans people actually look like women with that shit on. They don't. Some of them get close, but you can still tell them apart.

>>70669881
There are a few that don't use wigs and know how to apply makeup but they are the minority.
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>>70668049
my eyes had a heart attack
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>>70670110
>the Court did not consider the plaintiffs' argument that New Haven violated the constitutional right to equal protection.

In other words you have no rights if you're white
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>>70669705
>You were born with a wig, a dress, and makeup smeared on your face?

We were all born female in the womb. Some people's gender does not correspond with their biological gender. That's a fact.
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>>70670004
See

>>70668840
>>70668840
>>70668840
>>70668840
>>70668840
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>>70666057
White House aid said that Bill Clinton said "she's eats more pussy than I do"
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>>70670163
>Your problem seems to be that you believe trans people actually look like women with that shit on. They don't. Some of them get close, but you can still tell them apart.
And your problem seems to be you believe appearance should dictate treatment.

And as someone that knows a music producer that successfully reinvented their self as her female cousin after announcing their own death to their fans, I assure you, not all transgenders are obvious.
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>>70665654
Hillary Clinton is a stupid slut who should be sentenced to death, just like entire obongo administration.
These fucking savages destabilized entire middle east and killed millions of people, forcing rest to flee away and culturally enrich europe destabilizing another region.
Fucking usa, why this country is so cancerously contagious. By now it's even worse than russia and china combined.
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>>70670383
>We were all born female in the womb
>born
>in the womb

kek
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>>70670110
That decision was based on lack of evidence and it didn't set any precedent. The case I mentioned shaped Affirmative Action and was based on opinion and Constitutional interpretation.

>>70670383
>born
You should look up that word. It doesn't mean what you think it means.

And yes, gender dysphoria is a thing, but this is where you seem to be missing the point entirely: it's _not_ normal, nor should it be treated as such. A kid with gender dysphoria should not be encouraged to act gay, it should be treated like we treat many other disorders.
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>>70670505
>White House aid said that Bill Clinton said "she's eats more pussy than I do"

Go back to info wars
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>>70670573
>appearance should dictate treatment
Oh, so you're one of those idiots who thinks it's wrong to refuse sex with trans people because they have a dick. You're just as deluded as they are.
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>>70670682
>A kid with gender dysphoria should not be encouraged to act gay

Should we teach straight kids to act gay?
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>>70670581
>Hillary Clinton is a stupid slut who should be sentenced to death, just like entire obongo administration.

Obama's been one of the best presidents in the USA.
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>>70670326
>the Court did not consider the plaintiffs' argument that New Haven violated the constitutional right to equal protection.
>In other words you have no rights if you're white
>Because the plaintiffs won under their Title VII claim, the Court did not consider the plaintiffs' argument that New Haven violated the constitutional right to equal protection.
>Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964
Or maybe you do, you just can't win a court case more than once at the same time.

Although kudos for cutting out the bit that says the exact opposite of what you want it to say
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>>70670851
nice argument kid.
Do you also poo in the loo?
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>>70670806
I don't know, should we teach people with multiple personality disorder to be a different person every day? Should we teach schizophrenic people it's okay to go off the rails and lose your shit so they don't feel abnormal?
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>>70670799
i believe the conversation was about basic rights like discrimination in employment, not your sexual preferences
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>>70670799
>Oh, so you're one of those idiots who thinks it's wrong to refuse sex with trans people because they have a dick.
If you can get it up regardless it probably isn't healthy to live in that degree of denial, but most people aren't attracted to both sexes
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>>70671018
>Do you also poo in the loo?

POO
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>>70666885
>>70666037
>>70666347
/lgbt/ here, I'm voting for trump. Democrats are just using us like pawns, shame some of us are dumb enough to fall for it like the blacks did
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>>70670383
I tell you what.

I can accept that some people don't identify as their gender.

But you have to accept that gender isn't sex.
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>>70671303
>/lgbt/ here, I'm voting for trump.

I wish I could kill you.

>Democrats are just using us like pawns,

Wrong. Democrats have always been fighting for the LGBT community.
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>>70670851
Let's see...
tried to start a war in Libya
tried to start a war in Syria
stood by and did nothing while Russia invaded Ukraine
calls for sweeping changes after 2-3 people die in a shooting here, while proclaiming #NotAllMuslims when terrorists kill over 100 people in one day in Paris
put us on the edge of conflict with Russia more than once
set back race relations here at least several decades
is literally begging the Fed to run at a negligible interest rate to keep all that QE from kicking him in the ass
has raised the average health insurance premium while costing more than $50 billion a year in tax dollars with his healthcare plan

...I could go on
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>>70671303
>dems are using us like pawns
>so lets for the party that hates us

Brilliant!
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>>70671051
And if I'm hiring I'm going to pay attention to appearance, which includes people claiming to be something they're not
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>>70671516
I take back my kudos, now you just sound stupid and angry. Put more effort into being intellectually dishonest
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>>70671147
You're the one who thinks there are passable trannies, if they do exist and I take one home he'll be heading right back out the door when I discover he's lying about his sex.
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>>70671565
so you'll discriminate against somebody for a psychological/medical condition? okay
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>>70671665
you'd be more honest if you just admitted you want to kill all whites

you won't though
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>>70671383
>>70671461
LGBT are just another pet minority for the Democrats. They play up the populist rhetoric and say they're going to do all these things for you so you'll vote for them and take your liberal attack dogs with you, meanwhile in practice they do nothing for you outside of tossing you the occasional table scraps.
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>>70671303
I live in Charlotte, you know, gay hating capital of the current world.

Every single job I've had in the last 5 years has had at least 1-2 gay guys working there, closet or out, mostly out.

Never had issue with them, we got along fine. Blatant homophobia was rare as fuck, and most of it came from the same person if I recall- a black mormon girl.

Reality never seems to fall in line with liberal fantasy very well.
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>>70665654
"Doubles down" as in "repeats herself"?
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>>70671778
Would you hire someone with Down's Syndrome to work as an accountant?
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>>70671516
I swear the woman put up more of a fight than the dude did. She got knocked on her ass twice and got back up. Even threw a fucking elbow. The man just tried to hug everyone. I bet he was calling her for help the whole time.
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>>70671880
It's all rhetoric and hysteria. it's a good way of getting and keeping voters.
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>>70671880
>Every single job I've had in the last 5 years has had at least 1-2 gay guys working there, closet or out, mostly out.

Legally you can now be fired and denied serviced there. How does that make you feel retard? But keep voting Republican and vote for the party that is going to literally KILL you one day.
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>>70671839
>LGBT are just another pet minority for the Democrats. They play up the populist rhetoric and say they're going to do all these things for you so you'll vote for them and take your liberal attack dogs with you, meanwhile in practice they do nothing for you outside of tossing you the occasional table scraps.

That still doesn't change the fact the GOP is literally the anti-gay party. No seriously ask your average Republican what they think of gay people.
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>>70672043
>Legally you can now be fired and denied serviced there

you can be fired for being white at any time

see how many fucks I give.
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>>70672112
I don't have a problem with gay people. Hell, I don't have a problem with trans people. I only ask that they don't demand special privileges and they keep it private, like most civilized people do with their sexuality. What I do have a problem with is rabid militant activists such as yourself who openly express violent tendencies and desires toward anyone who thinks or believes things they don't like.
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>>70672315
>you can be fired for being white at any time

Legally you cannot. Where did you hear this?
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>>70671383
>wish I could kill you
k

>dems fight for lgbt
doesn't mean they're right

>>70671461
>party that hates us
eh it's more like the party that doesn't put us on a pedestal because of a disorder. marriage shouldn't have any place in the law at all, and if it does it should be for couples with children. Straight couples should be given express priority over gay couples to adopt, if gays are allowed to adopt at all.

trannies need to use the bathroom for they sex they are, not the gender they are. bathrooms are based on sex not gender. also stop trying to push the idea trannies can change what they were born with, you cannot change your body any more than you can change your neurology. treatment for trans needs to focus on how to learn to live with opposing neurology and biology, not pursuing the impossible goal of forcing one to match the other with either psychotherapy or cosmetic surgeries

>>70671839
and the things they fight for actually do more harm than good. see the black communities and welfare, trans suicide rates increasing after surgery, the rates of mental disorders in adoptive children of gay couples, etc. If you question them on anything they push for you get labelled a bigot and they shut out anything else you say

>>70671880
yeah I'm near RDU, so long as you aren't an obnoxious faggot people shouldn't be able to tell if you're gay if you don't mention it. with trannies, you should make every effort to pass and if you don't and someone calls you out on it then just accept it as you needing to do better. Also don't lie and say you're female, make it clear that you are transgender and that it's just something you have to deal with and most people will just be cool with it

>>70672043
private businesses shouldn't be forced to do things they don't want. Plus, why would a gay person want to work for a company that wanted to fire them for being gay even if the law stopped them? It's like the cake store, don't bring the govt just bc of hurt feelings
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>>70672358
Oh and btw I voted for Trump, try and do something about it
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>>70672358
It's 2016. There is no reason someone should be fired for being gay in 2016
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>>70665654
LGBT SJW cuck faggotry
GUARANTEED votes of the cuck generation.
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>>70672447
>IT'S
>2
>0
>1
>6
shoo shoo, slimey limey
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>>70672389
>Plus, why would a gay person want to work for a company that wanted to fire them for being gay even if the law stopped them?

You lose your job = you lose your money = you lose your home

Oh your gay, well guess what we aren't going to give you medical care now. All because you are a retarded idiot. Discrimination is wrong. Simple as that.
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>>70672389
bruh you got BTFO and your miserable attempt at shilling for Trump failed, give up and try again later
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>>70672043
I'm not actually gay.

But yeah, you're insane, we don't hate gays and no one's going to get fired for it since it'd be like shooting yourself in the foot.

Now if you were able to maybe show me an example of something being fired for being gay in NC, well, then we've got something.
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>>70672388
>>70672043
Any employee fired for being gay would pursue and win a wrongful termination suit. Realistically though, outside of a few small businesses where the owner generally knows all the employees personally anyway, this isn't going to happen because national and interstate chains would never do this, in any reality, for any reason.
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>>70672690
>Now if you were able to maybe show me an example of something being fired for being gay in NC, well, then we've got something.

http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/5-people-who-were-fired-for-being-gay-and-the-29-states-where-that-is-still-legal/

In case you were wondering, here are the 29 states in which it would still be legal to fire you over your sexual orientation:
Alabama Louisiana Pennsylvania
Alaska Michigan South Carolina
Arizona Mississippi South Dakota
Arkansas Missouri Tennessee
Florida Montana Texas
Georgia Nebraska
Idaho North Carolina Virginia
Indiana North Dakota West Virginia
Kansas Ohio Wyoming
Kentucky Oklahoma
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>>70672599
How and where did he get BTFO, leaf?
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>>70672827
And yet, nothing. Because you're still standing behind an overused strawman.
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>>70672745
>Any employee fired for being gay would pursue and win a wrongful termination suit.

That's very debatable considering the US Supreme Court has never ruled on it and a couple states cover sexual orientation in their anti-discrimination laws.
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>>70672935
>And yet, nothing. Because you're still standing behind an overused strawman.

that article lists FIVE gay people fired for being gay.

1. Lisa Howe (Tennessee)
This former Belmont University soccer coach was fired in December 2010 after she came out to her soccer team that she is a lesbian and announced that she and her partner were expecting their first child. While the university’s official statement at first said that she had resigned, it was soon amended to say that the decision had been mutual, and that her continuing to work for Belmont would not be beneficial to her or the university. Demonstrators protested Howe’s termination, as she was a highly successful and popular coach, and they called for an official apology, which they never received. Although Belmont had terminated its ties with the Tennessee Baptist Church in 2007, chairman of Belmont’s board of trustees Marty Dickens told The Tennessean that, “We expect people to commit themselves to high moral and ethical standards within a Christian context.” - See more at: http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/5-people-who-were-fired-for-being-gay-and-the-29-states-where-that-is-still-legal/#sthash.tAKwLErq.dpuf
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>>70672827
Employers should have the right to hire who they want and fire people that don't meet their standards.
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>>70672388
legally as a white you have no rights in the US beyond paying taxes and giving money to Tyrone.
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>>70672863
>>70671461
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>>70672596
>lose job
>implying I would get fired
I haven't gotten fired yet nigga, I'd sue the shit out of them for terminating me just for that. If they wanted to play that game I could push the "trans is a mental illness" idea and get it under disability discrimination which is federally prohibited

also I'm under 26, still on my parent's insurance for now :^)

>>70672599
ur rite i'm a cruz missle now gj

>>70672827
see the thing here is if you do a good job then you won't get fired. if you don't meet the standards of your employer than they should have the right to not hire you
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>>70673002
>oy vey Christians are allowed to practice their religion, BAD GOY
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>>70673055
>Employers should have the right to hire who they want and fire people that don't meet their standards.

Firing someone based off a characteristic they were born with is not a valid reason to fire someone. If you want to live in a society where someone is not based on the color of their skin, but the content of their character you should support anti-discrimination laws.
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>Hillary is ITT

im pretty sure i cared about gay right before hillary did

and im not a 70 year old fake progressive that calls black people super predators
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>>70672358
>I only ask that they don't demand special privileges
That straights would likely not need to assert said privilege does not mean anything they are demanding would be exclusively for them

You can be fired for being straight in most states. They would like to change this as well.
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>>70673174
>oy vey Christians are allowed to practice their religion, BAD GOY

You do know Christianity is a JEWISH religion right?
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>>70672827
I was hoping for an example from NC since we're the one catching all the shit, we've got like 320 million people living in this country, if this was a problem you'd think we'd have more than a few examples from 4-6 years ago.

Being fired for being gay is less likely than getting struck by lightning m8.
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>>70673231
>and im not a 70 year old fake progressive that calls black people super predators

Hillary was like the 7th most progressive senator when she was in the senate. Fuck off shill.
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>>70672954
It wouldn't even need to go to the Supreme Court. Worst case scenario it makes it to a Federal Circuit appellate court and it stops there.

>>70673118
That's not BTFO leaf. That's a shitposter throwing up a strawman.

>>70673002
It's a Christian university. Besides, it says in that paragraph that she wasn't fired.
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>>70666739
I am not homophobic or anything, but transsexuals and even open gays in the military is a distraction. Soldiers should not be distracted.
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>>70673239
t. historically illiterate retard
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>>70673303
>when she was in the Senate
What about before then? She changes her views like we change clothes.
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>>70673280
>Being fired for being gay is less likely than getting struck by lightning m8.

Replace gay with black. Also NC also said that state courts cannot enforce anti-discrimination laws. That means if someone fires someone for being black or a women, guess what? They can't go to NC state courts for it. Another example of the GOP pushing jim crow in this country.
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>>70665951
How about BLT instead of LBT? It makes more sense.
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>>70673405
>t. historically illiterate retard

What religion did Jesus believe in anon?
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>>70673367
>but transsexuals and even open gays in the military is a distraction.

What about open straight people? Are they a distraction as well?
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>>70673280
>Being fired for being gay is less likely than getting struck by lightning m8.
That's in part due to building codes requiring all buildings be properly grounded.
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>>70673235
Forcing someone to allow you to conduct what they believe is an abomination in your own living room should not be a right, for anyone.
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>>70673333
>It's a Christian university.

What does that matter? Discrimination is wrong, regardless of where it happens. Show me were in the bible it says "fire this person for being gay, so says Jesus."
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>>70673516
Karaite
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>>70671899
if they could do the job, sure
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>>70673303
>36 posts ITT
you are the shill bro
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>>70673333
>It wouldn't even need to go to the Supreme Court. Worst case scenario it makes it to a Federal Circuit appellate court and it stops there.

Nah. NC will be what takes it to the US Supreme Court, and they will rule LGBT folks are covered under the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Right after Hillary appoints Scalia's replacement. Eat shit Republicans.
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>>70673453
The case could still be brought in federal eeoc courts.

NC can removal all the barriers to discrimination at the state level they want, it doesn't make federal laws and jurisdiction go away
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>>70673644
>Discrimination is wrong

Unless it's against whites

then it's fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC-Cqkq6zWc
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>>70673644
I'm not even Christian you mong. It's a Christian university obviously interested in teaching Christianity along with the curriculum.
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>>70673903
>NC can removal all the barriers to discrimination at the state level they want, it doesn't make federal laws and jurisdiction go away

It costs a lot more anon. They are only doing this because the North Carolina Republican Party is now the new KKK. They just can't stand the fact there are blacks and gays in this country.
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>>70673930
>It's a Christian university obviously interested in teaching Christianity along with the curriculum.

Where does it say in the bible by Jesus to fire someone for being gay? Just point that out in the 10 commandments.
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>>70673574
No, because that is the norm?

I do not think that women and men should be placed together either. The Kurds have a male army and a female army.
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>>70673599
nobody is talking about letting gay couples fuck on your living room rug m8

that'd at least be trespassing
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>>70674221
>No, because that is the norm?

So you admit you only hate gay people. That's why you oppose us serving openly.

>I do not think that women and men should be placed together either.

Do you think blacks shouldn't serve with whites either?
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>>70673855
Great, I don't really give a shit. As long as employers aren't getting sued left and right because some tranny is butthurt over not getting the job.

>>70674116
I fail to see the relevance. Modern Christianity teaches that homosexuality is wrong, so it shouldn't be a surprise that modern Christians believe homosexuality is wrong.

>>70674238
What about running around in public streets with dildos glued all over your body?
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>>70674410
>I fail to see the relevance. Modern Christianity teaches that homosexuality is wrong, so it shouldn't be a surprise that modern Christians believe homosexuality is wrong.

Again where did Jesus say you should FIRE someone from their job for being gay? I remember something about stones and he who casts it.
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>>70674306
There is no hate in any of his posts. The only hate in this thread is from you.

>Do you think blacks shouldn't serve with whites either?
Last time I checked, there usually isn't a lot of sexual tension between groups of white and black men.
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>>70673453
Eh? Federal law is still a thing, as someone already pointed out. You're trying to fan the flames of a problem that's just not there m8. There are no grave inequities and wrongdoings going on anywhere. Everyone in NC grew up around these people you keep saying we hate.

>>70674055
That's not cute, the KKK killed people, these laws for passed in response to gays suing private business for not wanting to go against their religious beliefs.

Religious freedom is literally the foundation of America.
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>>70673199
>people are born gay
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>>70674551
And again this is an irrelevant point. We're not talking about Christianity 2000 years ago, we're talking about modern Christianity, which believes homosexuality is wrong.
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>>70674551
that would be the muslims, casting stones at a homosexual is pretty much a thing only they do
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>>70674633
>Everyone in NC grew up around these people you keep saying we hate.

Face it, you people are basically all racist, sexist, homophobic bigots. You should put your white hoods back on. The fact you have a legislature that is pushing modern day Jim Crow, should tell you something about your state.
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>>70674410
>What about running around in public streets with dildos glued all over your body?
What part of freedom of speech did you not understand?
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>>70673174
he had two years to think of an apology and all he came up with is "black lives matter"
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>>70674633
>these laws for passed in response to gays suing private business for not wanting to go against their religious beliefs.

Replace gay with BLACK. My religious freedom, according the bible, says I shouldn't serve blacks because they are cursed according to the curse of ham. WHAT NOW ANON?
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>>70674633
He knows the problem is virtually nonexistent m8. It's populism meant to draw in voters.
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>>70665654
It's too late. She's already been caught having flip-flopped on it.
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>>70674633
>Federal law is still a thing, as someone already pointed out.
federal civil rights laws don't cover gays though. I only pointed out that NC bullshit law did nothing to get rid of existing civil rights protections.
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>>70674922
>She's already been caught having flip-flopped on it

See
>>70668840
>>70668840
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>>70674813
I'm calling it. Either brainwashed San Fran libshit or troll.

>>70674855
The only city in the US that allows public nudity is San Francisco, and even they ban public eroticism and sexual vulgarity. It's called public indecency.
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>>70675069
who said anything about nudity?
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>>70675030
>I only pointed out that NC bullshit law did nothing to get rid of existing civil rights protections.

It did at the city and county level anon. That means if you are gay, trans, or former military veteran, you can be fired for that now in NC. That's why people call it the "hate state." You guys do nothing but HATE HATE HATE. This is why I will never vote GOP.
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>>70675037
That doesn't take away the fact that she did the wrong thing in the first place. She's only doing it now to try to swipe at her opponents' strong suits again.
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>>70668049
I had two of those things when they were around. Pretty tasty.
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>>70675146
Pretty sure running around in assless chaps or with dildos glued to your body falls under one of nudity, eroticism, or vulgarity.
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>>70675185
>That doesn't take away the fact that she did the wrong thing in the first place.

>1999 is now all of a sudden
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>LGBT Equality

They can vote. They can own property. They can run businesses.

How exactly are they not "equal" as far as the government is concerned?
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>>70665654
I thought they got their marriage equality? What other issues are there? Why does the president need to get involved? Is this just some shady jew tactic? Answer me /pol/
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>>70675165
>It did at the city and county level anon.
no it didn't, there were none to get rid of, it's god damn North Carolina, part of the shithole that is the south.
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>>70675165
I'll say it again, the only person spewing hate ITT is you.
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>>70674813
I was the only white kid in my classes most years kneejerk.

Hell I usually get along better with minorities than I do whites just because I'm used to it.

But everyone's friendly with each other here, I've witnessed true rasim maybe once in my life in public. Many years ago where a backwoods hillbilly was calling my manager a nigger for not refunding a Greendot card.

>>70674880
Being black and being gay is not the same thing, stop trying to pretend it is. It's actually really fucking dirty of you to keep trying to equate them.

>>70675030
Yeah I realized that, I was speaking on the insistence of replacing "gay" with "black".
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>>70675299
>What other issues are there?

LGBT discrimination is still a serious issue in the USA. But straight people like you don't know this. Check your privilege.
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>>70675165
>letting businesses do things they want
>hateful
>restricting what businesses can do according to your world view and nothing else
>tolerant

>>70675299
there are none, they're just making ones up so they have some reason to be relevant and keep the spotlight on them
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>>70675281
She doesn't actually believe half the shit she says. She's pandering, she changes her views based on public opinion because her only concern is getting more votes.
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>>70675269
you'd think that but i doubt it

and again, nobody mentioned assless chaps
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>>70675322
>no it didn't,

YES IT DID

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Facilities_Privacy_%26_Security_Act

>The act prohibits municipalities in the state of North Carolina from enacting their own anti-discrimination laws not covered by the statewide anti-discrimination laws,
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>>70675411
ok ok ok, suppose LGRBQFAGGOTS actually are discriminated against. What is the president gonna do about it? The issue seems out of the scope of the title's power.
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>>70675477
Really, plastic dicks aren't vulgar? That's a new one.
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>>70674410
>What about running around in public streets with dildos glued all over your body?

no where in the bill of rights or the constitution does it say you have the right to not being offended. christians whining anout "muh religious freedoms" are such whining pussies. nobody gives a shit if somebody's expression or sexuality offends your sensibilities or goes against what you believe. think homosexuality is a sin? don't do gay things. against gay marriage? don't marry someone of the same gender. offended when you see people being gay in public? grow up. people are free to do things you don't like. it really isn't fucking hard
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>>70675491
none had any in the first place. sure they can't enact any going forward, but that's not the same as any being rendered null and void
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>>70675672
a dildo doesn't necessarily look like a dick
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>>70665654
>hillary clinton desperate to scoop up bernie vote
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>>70675740
So we can also refuse service to homosexuals, right? Because that's the logical continuation of what you're saying.

Oh wait, that isn't the libshit position at all. Well I guess you can go fuck yourself then.
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>>70675757
>none had any in the first place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Facilities_Privacy_%26_Security_Act

>On February 22, 2016, the Charlotte City Council passed, by a 7-4 vote, an amendment with a non-discrimination ordinance prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity in public accommodations, passenger vehicle for hire, and city contractors. It took effect on April 1, 2016.[6]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/north-carolina-lgbt-discrimination_us_56f2b7dbe4b0c3ef5217676c

>The bill would also end anti-discrimination protections for veterans. At least two North Carolina jurisdictions — Greensboro and Orange County — have anti-discrimination ordinances in place banning bias based on military or veteran status.
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>>70674306
Openly gay people can be a distraction. Women can be a distraction. Soldiers should not be distracted.

And I would guess that transexuals would be an ever bigger distraction, if they were openly transexuals.

>Do you think blacks shouldn't serve with whites either?
What? I would also say that people having a problem with black people (just because of their skin) should not serve either. Because that would be a distraction too (not only because they are bad people).

I have served, and women caused trouble/be a distraction. Too often. I am not saying having women and openly gay people somehow break an army or something of that sorts, but modern military is not so much about numbers anymore and the more focus and discipline there is the better.

I have not served with openly gay people as I know though, so that is just speculation. Maybe I am wrong, and there is legit research showing that having women and openly gay people serving is not a problem.
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>>70675740
That would be fine and dandy if "expressing your sexuality in public" wasn't illegal in every county of every state in the country.

>>70675832
That sounds like a copout.

There is actually an image that's been floating around for a while now that I was referencing, and the dildoes very obviously look like dicks.
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>>70675947
>Openly gay people can be a distraction. Women can be a distraction.

YES MILITARY SHOULD BE FOR ONLY WHITE CHRISTIAN HETEROSEXUAL MALES!
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>>70675599

find an excuse to take your rights away like censor the internet to stop "hate speech"

t. gayboy
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>>70676049
I'm sure you'll catch some people with that bait
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>>70675896
>So we can also refuse service to homosexuals, right? Because that's the logical continuation of what you're saying.

no. businesses that serve the public serve the public. they aren't private clubs
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>>70676049
No one said that, but feel free to put words in his mouth.

The point of the military is not equality or discrimination. The entire purpose of a military is to fight wars, and for a military to serve its purpose soldiers must not be distracted. I'm sorry that you have a problem with logic, it must be hard for you to think.
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>>70668049
This is my boy trent, we call him double down

Ladies don't u always double down on 11?
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>>70676158
The President can't do that by himself.
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>>70676247
>The entire purpose of a military is to fight wars,

So gays and women can't fight in wars? I guess you Alexander the great didn't conquer most of the known world at the time. I guess women in the Soviet Union during WW II didn't stop the Nazis.
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>>70675990
straight people express thwir sexuality in public all the time and nobody bats an eye at it. expressing sexuality isn't a crime; only committing obscene acts in public is
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>>70676353
Women are almost always less physically capable than men.

I don't have a problem with gay people serving in the military as long as they behave like all the other soldiers i.e. keep it in their pants and don't make a huge deal out of it.

>>70676359
I mean, I guess if you count kissing as sexuality. Straight people who have sex in public are just as deserving of fines/jail as gay people who do it.
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>>70665654
Hillary’s going to use the state to drop a jack boot on tax payers who won’t bake a cake for faggots? Fucking lovely. Every time some whiny faggot gets all pushy and bitches about equality, I grow less tired and tolerant of them.
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>>70676049
Where have I said anything about the colour of people's skin?

I served with blacks, middle-easterners (muslims too) and other asians and there was no problem at all. In fact, not one single racial issue at all. Do you think that all straight men automatically are racist if they are not politically correct?

You know that some exercises require that you are absolutely comfortable with the people around you, and there are several stories where women have refused to take part and breaking up the discipline in the group.

Gay men might not be a problem though, as I said. I don't know, I only speculate.
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>>70666739
>trans people can't legally serve in the military still, etc.
Good. If you think it's bad with traps whipping their dick out in a woman's bathroom, try going to boot camp where you are naked in a communal shower with dozens of other people every day for months.
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>>70676353
There is literally no evidence that Alexander was gay.
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>>70676945
If this thread is anything to judge by, he probably believes that being white, straight, and male automatically makes you sexist, racist, and bigoted.
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>>70677055
WE WUZ ALEXANDER AN SHEEEIT
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>>70676945
>Where have I said anything about the colour of people's skin?

Because you are posting on /pol/ and these are literally the arguments made in the 1940s against desegregation the military, same arguments in 2010 to prevent don't ask don't tell from being repealed.

Why do you feel the need to control other people's lives? You should be begging gay people and women to fight for your country you stupid fuck.
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>>70677055
>There is literally no evidence that Alexander was gay.

Bullshit
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>/pol/ openly debating faggots
sasuga neo-/pol/
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>>70668049
mad we do it better?
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>>70677210
>You should be begging gay people and women to fight for your country you stupid fuck.
FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL. I can't vouch for the other branches, but the Navy is so over saturated with wymin and fags that people who fail their A-Schools don't even get to go undesignated or rerated anymore, they just get their asses booted out.
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>>70677210
My country does not lack manpower. Wars is not about that anymore, now it is about getting things done with little to none casualties.

>Why do you feel the need to control other people's lives?
???

And what is the "don't ask don't tell" about? From the wording it, why do gay people have to say that they are gay? I am sure that there have been a lot of gay people serving in all armies in history, without having the need to tell their fellow soldiers that they are gay.
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>>70677210
>same logical arguments implies the same beliefs
I'd like to see the logic behind this one.

>You should be begging gay people and women to fight for your country
If they gave a shit about their country we wouldn't have to beg. I don't see any women begging to sign up for the draft.
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>>70677661
>why do gay people have to say that they are gay? I am sure that there have been a lot of gay people serving in all armies in history, without having the need to tell their fellow soldiers that they are gay.

why do straight people have to say that they are straight? I am sure that there have been a lot of straight people serving in all armies in history, without having the need to tell their fellow soldiers that they are straight.
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>>70677071
I am wondering what he is doing at a "Politically incorrect" board.
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>>70677661
It was a decent policy that removed sexuality from the picture in the military. However, it would appear that some gay people can't go ten minutes without telling someone they're gay so the policy was attacked until it was lifted.
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>>70677827
Probably doing a "raid".

>pissing in an ocean of piss
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>>70677796
You're just hurting your case m8. >>70677874
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>>70673487
lesbians gotta be at the front because womyn are the most discriminated of all people ever
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>>70677796
They don't? Everybody just assume that everybody is the same. Which is good for discipline.
I have not even counted in the factor of sexual tension.

I will ask again; exactly why is it important at all to say that you are gay?

It's like starting a thread on 4chan and add that "Btw I am a girl". If you are gay, and confident about your sexuality, there should be no problem. If you are looking for attention, you should not serve.
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>>70666037
She's pandering to straight people who pretend to care about their pet faggots.
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>>70677687
>I'd like to see the logic behind this one.
He isn't saying your beliefs are the same, he is saying that using the same logic makes you wrong for the same reasons (cause that is how logic works).

It's called argument by counterexample and incidentally the only way for you to defend your argument would be to defend segregation.

http://faculty.bsc.edu/bmyers/Section1.5.htm
check out the counterexample method
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>>70668341
The pope has a gay foot fetish (men's feet).
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>>70677874
Yeah, I really don't see how that law would be "sexist" or homophobic. "Storm in a water glass" by people looking for something to yell about. I would guess that all the talk about this law have made it a lot worse to be gay in the military, because I am pretty sure that most serving gays have no need to talk about their sexual orientation to their fellow recruits/soldiers.

LGBT issues should be solved outside of the military.
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>>70671898
That is generally what the term means, in gambling (poker is a good example) you make a bet (Equate this with making a statement about X in politics), Then someone else at the table calls your bet, expressing doubt about the truth of the strength of the cards you possess (in politics this is when someone asks you a question about your stance on X)

you are now left with two choices
>Accept the call and fold, conceding the round to the person who called your bet
this is what almost all politicians do when faced with having to make an actual position clear, mainly because they are almost all inheirant cowards and their views and beliefs are more flexible than the gender of a tigerkin heptasexual otherqueer

or

>You double down, raising your bet because you either believe you hold the stronger hand/opinion or to scare the other person off.
This rarely happens, mainly because of the basic nature of politicians (see above) It is more than just repeating oneself because it is done after some amount of time has elapsed, giving a politician time to time about the fact that they actually be forced to take a stand if they reinforce they previous view on X. It also shows a higher level of politician, for good or ill Clinton Trump and Sanders all are politicians who will double down.
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>>70674880
This still seems fine to me, in fact this is better and probably a smarter move than banning faggots.
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>>70670383
when you redefine words to be whatever you want it to mean you can make anything a fact.
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>>70670505

bants tb h
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>>70673487
offensive to muslims tbqh
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>>70678247
who dat?
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>>70669255
I was born a hotdog, i've been unemployed for six years now. Everytime I go for an interview in my hotdog outfit I get thrown out. :(

I'm tired of this fucking discrimination.
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>>70665654
Isn't this the same bitch that told gays to fuck themselves before 2013?
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>>70673174
that black officer doesn't seem too impressed.
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