what are the benefits and drawbacks of fascism?
The commies always win. Also, 6 Million is never enough.
>>70665513
kek
no seriously, i want to know if fascism is just a meme here
>>70665873
I don't know either. I'm a new fag. FOR THE FATHERLAND!!!!
>>70665240
Fascism is what all true warriors strive for.
>>70665240
National Socialism is great. Whenever socialists call me a Nazi I just point out national socialists were socialists just like them. They just believed in their nation.
>>70665240
Men can be leaders at 5'3.
>>70665240
drawbacks of fascism:
NO means for transfer of power. Shit would have went way down the tubes when Hitler or Mussolini died.
Look how shit Spain is after Franco too. Just a corrupt shitty government.
Nationalism is superior to fascism in every way.
how do you get the the point where nationalism is the primary belief of a nation?
fascism
fascism is a shitty form of government, it is primarily a transition state to nationalism/natcap/natsoc
>>70666957
This is why we need monarchism.
>>70665873
Good taste in music friend.
>>70665240
Dictatorship. It can work in short term but in long term it is bound to collapse.
>>70666957
>>70667142
could you please explain your point a little more? i.e. how it would have become shit? I only have a very loose sense of fascism
>>70666707
i can deal with nationalism, but im not down for socialism
>>70667609
Put on your cloak and burka right?
>>70666957
Franco had a planned successor but he was assassinated by ETA or Basque separatists in a bomb attack.
Fascism is cucked as fuck. Fascism is sucking the cock of one particular guy while being brainwashed.
>>70667914
Nationalism cannot exist without socialism, otherwise it's just empty rhetoric of the wealthy for the purpose of misleading masses they exploit.
>>70668032
>>70667609
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg2DcasF2Y4&list=PL2wrUfUNTG1bvZOZKzbv9jfycydOyPUFg&nohtml5=False
damn straight, im listening to it now
love the anon who made this
>>70668077
but does a feeling of nationalism with your people necessitate social programs?
>“It is, in fact, nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction have not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry; for this delicate little plant, aside from stimulation, stands mainly in need of freedom. Without this it goes to wrack and ruin without fail.”
― Albert Einstein
>>70668289
Of course it does, because nationalism is based on collectivism.
Of course, how much socialism and how much collectivism is needed is open for discussion.
>>70668289
His voice sounds exactly like Mark Hoppus too, it's great
Fascists don't let the people join in on the governing which causes them to quickly lose the ability to govern themselves. It also tends to slowly erode human and constitutional rights.
>>70668504
i think he sounds more like the guy from bloodhound gang desu
>>70668440
why not just have a strong feeling of pride and superiority in your country and people, without having social programs
>>70668597
>don't let people
That's half-truth. There's still party, people join party and rise through ranks.
It's not like aristocracy.
I agree on the second point.
>>70668715
But that's just chauvinism, not nationalism.
Nationalism implies some measure of collectivism.
>>70668289
didnt read the title properly and thought for a moment blink 182 released a redpilled right wing song
sill me something like that will never happen
>>70665240
Too powerful, too beautiful, too prosperous, perfect.
>>70669084
And then you sit there as somebody's minion and get orders from the capital with minimal freedom of interpretation.
>>70669307
I don't think you Americans understand what fascism and NS are.
They are socialist movements. Some early NS leaders (like Strasser) even advocated alliance with USSR.
>>70669653
Alliance with USSR would have been the best plan.
>>70669445
There is hierarchy in liberal democratic societies too. I'm not supporting fascism, but fascism isn't aristocracy. Though quasi-aristocracy often appears.
>>70669802
Well Hitler eliminated socialist wing of the party, so that never happened.
>>70665240
Drawback:
Impossibility of economic calculation. That means the economic program is actually impossible and would need to eventually be privatized so that real markets and real prices could form.
Benefits:
Eugenic rather than dysgenic. Autocratic, but a drawback was lack of full formalization of sovereignty.
A monarchy that was relatively laissez-faire but practiced some eugenic regulation would be the best system for the foreseeable future.
>>70669653
And those got killed or fled. The big nazis never were socialist, they just used some worker's movement rethorics to get votes.
>>70670690
>The big nazis never were socialist
These were big Nazis, of course before they were killed or chased out.
>>70670689
>A monarchy that was relatively laissez-faire but practiced some eugenic regulation
So every monarchy in history, more or less.
>Impossibility of economic calculation
People use this argument but don't realize that that's just a theory, and many disagree with that.
And it only really applies to centralized economy.
Centralized economy isn't the only form of socialism.
>>70668289
Could this be used for red pilling, ignoring the Nazi shit?
Music for the Normie's?
>>70670689
>Fascism can triumph today because universal indignation at the infamies committed by the socialists and communists has obtained for it the sympathies of wide circles. But when the fresh impression of the crimes of the Bolsheviks has paled, the socialist program will once again exercise its power of attraction on the masses. For Fascism does nothing to combat it except to suppress socialist ideas and to persecute the people who spread them. If it wanted really to combat socialism, it would have to oppose it with ideas. There is, however, only one idea that can be effectively opposed to socialism, viz., that of liberalism.
>It has often been said that nothing furthers a cause more than creating martyrs for it. This is only approximately correct. What strengthens the cause of the persecuted faction is not the martyrdom of its adherents, but the fact that they are being attacked by force, and not by intellectual weapons. Repression by brute force is always a confession of the inability to make use of the better weapons of the intellect – better because they alone give promise of final success. This is the fundamental error from which Fascism suffers and which will ultimately cause its downfall. The victory of Fascism in a number of countries is only an episode in the long series of struggles over the problem of property. The next episode will be the victory of Communism. The ultimate outcome of the struggle, however, will not be decided by arms, but by ideas. It is ideas that group men into fighting factions, that press the weapons into their hands, and that determine against whom and for whom the weapons shall be used. It is they alone, and not arms, that, in the last analysis, turn the scales.
>>70672327
>So much for the domestic policy of Fascism. That its foreign policy, based as it is on the avowed principle of force in international relations, cannot fail to give rise to an endless series of wars that must destroy all of modern civilization requires no further discussion. To maintain and further raise our present level of economic development, peace among nations must be assured. But they cannot live together in peace if the basic tenet of the ideology by which they are governed is the belief that one’s own nation can secure its place in the community of nations by force alone.
>It cannot be denied that Fascism and similar movements aiming at the establishment of dictatorships are full of the best intentions and that their intervention has, for the moment, saved European civilization. The merit that Fascism has thereby won for itself will live on eternally in history. But though its policy has brought salvation for the moment, it is not of the kind which could promise continued success. Fascism was an emergency makeshift. To view it as something more would be a fatal error. (From Ludwig von Mises, Liberalism, section I:10)
>>70671563
They were a minority within the party. You'd have to be Hitler, Himmler, Göring, Goebbels, Bohrmann to be one of the big boys. Goebbels even switched sides from Strasser to Hitler and that's why he became such a big number.
>>70665240
Communism is poor at war with the rich
fascism is rich at war with the poor.
either way the middle man is fucked
>>70665240
Benefit: your opponent's are all disposed of
Drawback: no more happenings
>>70672393
I have a legitimate question. The object called "History" dictates that you have to cover The Second World War. How do you discuss the problems of your country and the war in general? I think it's rather delicate due to the fact that your country's past was warmongering
>>70672582
We go through the most important laws the nazis used to get rid of the republic, how they bullied the jews out of public life and how they fooled and controled the masses. The war isn't dealt with in detail, we don't learn much about the big battles, pretty much just some maps, treaty with the Soviets, Stalingrad, losing losing losing until Berlin gets captured and some holocaust along the war. Also we mention the German resistance against the nazis like Elser, Die weiße Rose or the plot of the 20th of July.
>>70665873
Kike faggot. You belong in a reconditioning camp.
