>current year
>being capitalist
>being fascist
>being marxist-leninist
When did you realise syndicalism is the true way forward for society, /pol/?
>>70598318
>the flag
>missing st. patrick's cross
I'm trigger.
What is syndicalism and why is it different from capitalism, fascism and communism?
>>70598318
>2016
>Not being anarcho-socialist-nationalist-traditionalist
>>70598508
>not knowing that in the world of Legacy of the Weltkrieg, Ireland broke from Britain completely during Britain's syndicalist revolution and the Royal Family's exodus to Canada
Do you even autism, Anon?
>>70598608
Basically, trade unions run everything. Businesses are collectively owned by unionised workers, and unions send representatives to syndicates, which make decisions on things. Syndicates are in turn organised into a broader syndicalist federation, in which each syndicate has representation.
>>70598318
Anarcho syndicalism I hope.
>>70598608
Industries are run by confederations of workers, replacing the capitalist system with one where the means of production are owned directly by the working class. It does not mean state control. Workers manage themselves (no bosses) and planning is done on a decentralised basis, with collaboration and democracy at all levels.
It shares some elements with communism, but syndicalism is about managing the means of production. Many anarcho-syndicalists are also anarcho-communists.
>>70599101
sounds literally like companies without management, aka companies that fall apart from backstabbing
Are the means of production considered owned by society collectively?
>>70599281
Capitalist myth. Look up Mondragon in Spain. Does very well despite being hamstrung by capitalism. Humans work pretty well together when they don't have a parasitic boss breathing down their necks.
http://www.thenation.com/article/worker-cooperatives-are-more-productive-than-normal-companies/
http://www.populareconomics.org/the-efficiency-of-worker-cooperatives-is-just-fine-thank-you/
>>70599486
Not by society as a whole, but by the workers in a given workplace or industrial entity.
So the guys who work at the toy factory collectively own and manage the factory, the land it's on, their equipment, etc. Hiring, firing and "company" policy direction are all done through workplace democracy.
>>70599613
......did i say anything about co-ops? co-ops cannot run a goddamn country you hippie, that's why feudalism was a thing
>>70598608
Being from the states. Anarchists-syndicate here was our laborer party. We believe that the most democratic society involves those who build it. Fuck these bullshit "right to work" states. Being a kid, my dad would take me to Union meetings. I remember going and seeing our original charter from 1919 hanging on the wall. It was then I realized the power of the worker. I am afraid however that I won't be able to take my son to a meeting one day.. That's why I'm pro syndicate.
>>70599613
>Humans work pretty well together when they don't have a parasitic boss breathing down their necks.
This is absolute bullshit.
Bad bosses are terrible, but without any sort of management, most workers would have problems reading a harvesting schedule. They sometimes have to be told because they're far less knowledgeable in whatever chosen field.
t. knower.
>>70598318
Err... Uh... Yeah...
>>70598318
now listen here
oh wait, you have a shitposting license, carry on
>>70599863
Why not? Don't give me the "human nature" bullshit. There is ample evidence co-operatives and syndicates, both of which share many traits, are more successful than traditional capitalist models. Humans have been co-operating for thousands of years. Life demanded it. It's only really under capitalism that economic competition became a thing.
>>70599956
All bosses are terrible. They contribute nothing. The idea that they have more knowledge is another capitalist myth. Nothing the bourgeoisie do can't be done by the workers themselves. They perpetuate ideas that people like you slurp up to keep themselves in luxury.
>>70600586
god you're such a fuckhead teenager, i was a manger at walden books for years and always worked with my employees to lessen the load for everyone. and yeah, i did know more than those faggot millenials who thought they could just do whatever they wanted to because they had a piece of paper that said they wasted 4 years of their life. If i hadn't been there to supervise and manage them they literally would do nothing and expect to be paid
>>70599079
It's also worth noting that, because of the nature of the governing structure here, only people with jobs have any kind of political influence. This means that dindus need to get jobs to have the power to vote for and/or suggest the provision of "mo money fo dem programs." And since they have jobs by the time they get voting power...
>>70600816
>fuckhead teenager
>faggot millenials
Some more nice capitalist strawmen. The youth have every right to be angry given their exploitation under capitalism and sky high unemployment rates. Keep pushing though, socialism is more popular than capitalism among millennials for a reason.
Perhaps if the workers had been properly trained and not treated as disposable labour they might have been inclined to show more effort. That's how co-ops work. The workers are not there to slave away for the personal gain of a select few.
>>70601462
>socialism is more popular than capitalism among millennials for a reason
because they're ignorant fuckwads like you that think being a commie is cool because you don't make enough to be taxed. and i rarely fired people unless they stole or were just absolutely abysmal. did you not read my fucking post you paki?
>>70600586
>All bosses are terrible. They contribute nothing. The idea that they have more knowledge is another capitalist myth
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
Workers democracies make about as much sense as allowing livestock to run the farm.
Most laborers can barely assess their own needs, and I can't imagine them collectively calculating currency/prices, allocating resources, assessing the public needs/demands and keeping rates of production sufficient to accommodate the current needs/demands all by denying the market. Work is the thesis of the modern economy, with leisure as its antithesis, and in hunter gatherer societies and the ideal stateless/classless post-capitalist society, the two would become one. With syndicate workers given the option to opt out of production, they would rarely produce anything other than political propaganda, cartelized labor and a permanently instilled sense of entitlement. By negating the individual sense of self, the will to produce quality work dies. Complicated chains of production require complicated organized structures and chains of command, which a rag-tag group of workers cannot democratically dictate
