Only cucks are offended by this and if you are, tell me why.
>>70571113
agreed.
>>70571113
Not offended, but it is really weird seeing it in states like Iowa.
>>70571113
>not this
>>70571113
Because it is against the state, unpatriotic.
I'm offended because it isn't in enough places
>>70571113
Flag of a bunch of democrats who hate America becomes the flag of a bunch of redneck republicans who supposedly love America? Can someone please explain this to me? It doesn't offend me but it confuses me.
>>70571893
>representative of a union of states who wanted to break off from an organization that they saw as corrupt and overstepping their authority (the feds)
>in a nation founded by people who did exactly that and basically told you to fucking revolt if this shit happened
>and now that nation is getting bled dry by that very fed
resisting tyranny for the good of your people is not unpatriotic
>>70571113
Over the past year, I have seen more confederate flags here in Virginia than I ever have in my life. I love it. Huge 50 foot ones going up over major highways.
>>70572146
It's a symbol of fighting against tyranny and oppression, of self-determination and democracy. Of states telling an overreaching federal government to fuck of and that they're going to do their own thing.
There is no reason I should be seeing this thing flying in Wisconsin. It's ugly and the owners are always obnoxious trailer park trash
>>70572240
>and now that nation is getting bled dry by that very fed
is this a joke? southern states take far more in in federal money than they generate.
>>70572411
The government saying you can't own people is an overreach?
>>70572519
And yet you blue state cucks continue to vote for more programs and welfare to funnel more money from your blue states to red ones. gg idiots
>>70572146
Government...The industrial North thought all of the Souths resources should go directly to them. Sort of the same reasons the colonists came here.
The 151st anniversary of Robert E. Lee's surrender was yesterday.
>>70571113
im offended by this overly aesthetic flag, why did such an aesthetic flag not become that of the whole country?
>inb4 many sensible reasons why not
>>70571113
It doesn't mean shit to me and I'm not southern. If I was going to fly it it'd be just to piss if leftists and niggers but I'd probably get my ass beat where I livd
>>70572636
But then why do modern day southerners idolize the confederacy when they were the party they now appose?
>>70571113
He a good ol' boy. Dindu nuffin rong.
Are you seriously asking me for my reasoning??
>>70571113
the confederates LOST and losing is UNAMERICAN
>>70571113
YOU LOST! I will come to USA soon (after one month) and piss on every Southern piece of shit's grave! Fuck you!
I don't get why Americans attach so many political connontations to it, yes, it was a briefly the flag of a rebel state but now it's just a flag for a minority culture. There are loads of them in Europe and people don't cry about them just because they may have been used by a beligerent side in a war over a century ago. Watching the "debate" (which is always just newspeak for leftists lecturing a group about something that's not their business or throwing a tantrum) about this is like seeing America actively resisting having an interesting culture like antibodies attacking a virus.
>>70572848
Identity is a major reason. They live in the south and have family living there for generations. They feel it's part of where they come from.
Also. It's not like this is the first time political parties have changed viewpoints. You ask... What do they oppose them now?
Look at the current state of Democrats and general left leaning policy.
>>70573385
So did Hitler.
>>70573571
Hitler wasn't American.
>>70571113
all confederate flags are racist. the declarations of secession for most of the confederate states cite white supremacy/slavery as the primary reason for seceding.
was the union a bunch of scumbag federalists and shitty carpetbaggers? YES. that still doesn't change the fact that all confederate flags are racist. both sides were wrong
>>70572240
It's the symbol of an uprising. Against the country. Unpatriotic. More loyal to their state then to the nation.
>>70572635
red states get more federal money because so called "christian" shits like to disobey their profit and maintain poverty
>>70573711
Exactly. Southerners are afraid of the rest of the world but it doesn't do them any favors.
The rebel flag has become an embarrassing symbol.
>>70573749
That's like saying the US flag is a symbol of tax evasion.
>>70573893
is the u.s. flag not a symbol of tax evasion?
>>70571113
god bless the south. I hope they rise again with white pride
>>70573518
>I will come to usa
>Fuck you
Kek,the faggotry is strong with this one
>>70573949
not with it's illiteracy rates it won't, you massive jackass.
>>70573949
>South
>White
Nope.
>>70573948
I don't think anybody in the world really sees it that way, no.
>>70571113
I'm offended
>why?
Because it hurts my wife's son's feelings
>>70573518
enjoy having your mom, girlfriend, and sister get asshole raped by ahmed
>>70574042
>panama papers
i guess you're right. i guess the rest of the worlds see the u.s. flag as a symbol of imperialism and oppression. rightly so.
>>70571608
lol, yeah I live in Iowa and tons of people here fly it in front of their houses, it's pretty weird
>>70571113
Not offended by it. We just should have let Sherman finish the fucking job.
>>70571933
This
>>70572848
it has nothing to do with political parties wtf
please stop viewing life through this lens, it is a great sadness to see
>>70573848
I've got some news for you about 'red' states.
Once we're talking states, you can bin that ignorant national election bullshit.
>>70571113
>>70572519
>what are black people?
>>70571608
They sell them in Canada sometimes.
>>70572577
If your IQ is below 90 you are not a person.
>>70571113
Well, cucks and the black people since it is intentionally flown by white supremacists to offend them.
>but muh white hurritage
>>70573749
can you write down your definition of racist please? and also the percentage of "white" people that you think owned slaves around the civil war times, all of this without google if possible
>>70573893
Yes our flag is a rebel flag used by slave owners who tar and feathered people and threw tea off ships.The only reason it isn't seen that way is because we won so it has become common place.
>>70571113
I'm just confused why you'd be proud to fly the flag of the losers. May as well hoist a white flag.
>>70574667
It was somewhere around 6%, and that 6% were most certainly not the ones fighting and dying.
Rebels got fucked just like in Syria.
>>70574744
So any country or culture that loses a war at any point in history is no longer allowed to have a flag? What kind of logic is that?
>>70574965
>>70574388
How many versions of this are there?
>>70574968
Of course they're allowed to have a flag. I'm just confused why they'd still be proud to fly it.
>>70574968
No, but if they never really got past the whole 'rebellion' phase, why fly it?
>>70575063
A lot.
>>70575147
Doesn't Australia do the same thing with that Eureka flag?
>>70574744
An army of 1/4 the size stood up against an unethical government, went on the OFFENSIVE while having less supplies, people, and money, and still made crazy advances. This war went on for four years.
And when the dust settled, "those retarded rednecks" had killed way more of their enemy, who showed no remorse or honor.
There's something to be proud of people defending their home against all odds, especially when there were times when the underdogs came close to winning it all.
>>70575198
Plenty of minority cultures or countries that aren't independent in Europe have them.
>>70575063
No idea, I keep this shit to trigger secessionist traitorfags
>>70575063
Yankees are really proud of their only competent general.
Who raped, pillaged, and burned everything and avoided direct battles when he could.
>>70575994
Sounds like a real good commander desu.
>>70575994
>Who raped, pillaged, and burned everything and avoided direct battles when he could.
Isn't that what you're supposed to do?
>Taking tactical advice from a southerner
>ever
>>70575994
Remember me?
>>70575994
At least he knew what kind of war he was fighting.
>>70576475
Fine, but don't take the moral high ground of freeing dem slaves when you shot girls on their porches and allowed their rapes. It happens in war, but to actually condone it?
>>70576590
>Grant
>competent
At least you'd be lucky to be in Sherman's army. Free pussy and loot. The poor shits in Grant's army were literal bulletsponges. The last push to Appomattox was just a blundering charge after charge of Northern conscripts. Look at the casualties. The CSA was literally running out of ammo from putting bodies under Grant down.
>>70576590
To this day southerners won't accept 50 dollar bills because they have his face on them
>>70576874
I don't give a flying fuck about the slaves. None of this would've happened if you picked your own damn cotton
>>70576874
It's a good strategy, really,
>>70574388
I'm tired of the meme that Sherman was a badass when all he did was kill civilians.
>>70576982
So they're fine with fives then? I'm calling bullshit.
>>70572240
fed didn't even exist then
>>70577149
Well they killed Lincoln for one, and two he didn't singlehandedly burn down 50% of Georgia
>>70576874
>Grant
Great victories take great sacrifices. He won when he had to. Tbh Sherman was better and a great hero.
>>70577369
I thought that was Sherman.
Also why is Grant on money in the first place anyway, I thought he was a garbage President. Eisenhower would be better for a general turned President for currency.
>>70573997
>it's illiteracy
Topkek. Are you from the south?
>>70577768
He was fine. Better then Johnson.
>>70576982
>None of this would've happened if you picked your own damn cotton
You do realize a very few amount of Southerners owned slaves? And they certainly weren't the ones getting shot at. My family lived in the mountains. Wasn't a nigger or cotton picking within three counties, but we still fought CSA. The macro reasoning was you Union Jews deciding you'd have federal authority over what happens in a part of the country you don't live in. Sure, slaves could be a moral standpoint, but would it stop there? Did it stop there? Micro reasoning was that the Federals were coming with a mercenary swarm to rape and pillage the South regardless of who owned slaves and who didn't. And guess what happened.
This is ignoring that the shit wasn't based solely on slavery. Lee freed his slaves to prove it, Jackson taught his slaves to read with the intentions of freeing them, and Richard Taylor was initially against secession, which implied he was cool with releasing his.
>>70576987
A desperate one, from a general who knew CSA men were actual men and could best them at formal battle.
The grand irony to all of this, is the rich plantation owners stayed rich at the head of sharecropping, and the way the South was left damaged the ability for places to gain industry.
It's an infantile mentality that Sherman WAS SO BADASS HAHA WE WON when all you did was fuck things up worse and swear fealty to your new corporate overlords.
>>70571113
I don't care about the slavery issue, to me its all about the fact that it is a Traitors Flag.
People can try to justify it however they want, but it is the flag that was used by defectors, and the fact that people still fly it today instead of the true American flag disgusts me.
>>70571113
only cucks witchhunt other cucks
>>70577938
Well, we wanted them to stay on top. The mentality most had was 'let's pretend this never happened'.
>>70577929
My cat would have better than Johnson.
>>70577971
I piss on the American flag, no Southerner should fight or die for the current regime of a nigger and chief. Go die for Israel faggot
>>70577971
Do you seriously think that anybody that flies it in 2016 is doing so because they're a secessionist?
>>70571113
I don't think its offensive I've just thought it's really silly to fly that flag in Tennessee. Last out, first back in and all, among other things.
>>70578105
What of Lincoln's brain they could manage to scrape off the carpet would be better then Johnson.
>>70578235
You think I give a flying fuck about Israel?
Pissing on the American flag proves that you aren't a real American, you're just another turncoat-cuck clinging to the past.
>>70578337
That's because it represents Southern identity rather than the actual, literal CSA of the 1860s.
>>70578235
How does it feel that majority of the people of your state represent that ebony skin? Do you feel the urgent need to go and shoot someone in a Church? I hope you contact some helping phone.
>>70571113
They got defeated.
They're traitors.
And they were fucking retarded throughout the war.
Fuck offensive. Anyone flying that flag is identifying themselves as being on the side of losers. They're the real cucks.
> inb4 Lost Cause Fervor
The can after can of assrape unleashed on them by the North showed how much that stands for.
>>70578588
>I hope you contact some helping phone
W-whst?
>>70577059
>implying that was a bad thing
>>70578618
>assrape unleashed
You lost more people than us. While being better supplied. And we weren't even solely defensive. You're greatest ally were those piece of shit Texans not getting up Little Round Top. Had they done so, the Siege of Philadelphia would have happened.
>>70578618
>you lost a war in the 1860s so you can't have a flag that represents your culture like literally every body else on the planet now
>>70571113
>>70578235
Oh boy, your Sky Daddy is gonna "curse" you for "cursing" the Chosen People, anon. Besides, you hillbilly secessionists are just like Jews--natural born traitors.
>>70579075
Is that why hundreds of thousands of your people went and died to keep them?
>>70578822
And the South still lost.
No cotton trade. No resources. Shit infrastructure. Zero support from any nation on Earth that could have mattered. Inefficient labour techniques. Not even a goddamn standardised mint, weights and measures or any other system.
And some people still think they could have won.
Face it buddy - the Civil War was only going to end one way. The only surprise is that it ended as fast as it did.
>>70578858
Fly a Jacobin banner in front of Buckingham Palace and come back and tell me how it went.
>>70571113
Bad design. Poor aesthetics. The corner to corner dark bands chop the space in nihilistic fashion while open red areas are bounded toward the center and open out facing away from each other. The triangular divisions are extremely static shapes, and your eye can't move dynamically across the field. The eye goes in one direction or the other.
It speaks to me of division, lines separating people and broken, stiff, static spaces.
I think the southern rebel culture needs a new more flowing and less rigid flag.
I'm not offended by it at all. You wanna own a Nazi flag or Confederate flag or whatever that's fine with me. You can even display in on your private property. My problem is that the Confederate flag should not be on government property.
The only emotion it inspires for me is pity.
It's the flag of the losing side, after all.
>>70579276
First of all, nobody would give a shit, secondly the Jacobins were not a culture. Southerners are pretty damned close to being a separate nationality within the confines of the US. People that fly the Confederate flag are doing so as an expression of cultural identity and belonging rather than as a show of support for a 150 year old failed revolution.
>>70578803
This is actually a great quote. Same could be applied to Muslims.
>>70571113
Are you offended by this?
>>70579714
what flags are permitted on government property?
>>70580168
>ben_carson_hits_the_campaign_trail.jpg
>>70579714
But they're not, they're on state government property, which is only your concern if you're from a Southern state.
>>70571113
Offended, no. Just amused seeing the tears over 100 years after the fact.
Stay mad Confederatefags
>>70577162
not the federal reserve, the federal government
although they were basically just being dicks compared to what's happening in Washington now
>mfw if the South had even half of the supplies and more men they would've won the war easily
>>70580221
The federal government and state flags. And if they're hosting a foreign dignitary their country's flag as well to welcome them.
>>70580105
Hail
>>70580576
If they hadn't tried to go on the offensive they would have won.
>>70571113
Rebel whores. Get put down.
>>70572577
Yes, it contradicts the powers described in the founding documents until that point.
>>70571113
Nah, it's not offensive at all and anyone who thinks so is retarded. It's actually really funny watching inbred hicks fly the flag of their defeat and talk about how "DA SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!!!11" when they can't even rise out of poverty
>ITT
Northerners, being products of a cultureless wasteland besides the Southern things that they repackage as "American" culture, try to connect expression of Southern culture and heritage with a 150 year old war and then call us the butthurt ones.
>>70581640
I dunno, you seem pretty fucking offended, friendo.
>>70580786
The tree of liberty needs to be replenished from time to time with the blood of tyrants
>>70574052
>>70579714
Please find me one example of it being flown on federal property.
Not offensive at all but it gets fucking ridiculous seeing trucks with both American and Confederate flags on them
>flying the flags of two countries that fought the most deadly war on this nation's soil at the same time
fucking dumbshits, fly the American flag if you're an American
>>70571113
A bunch of toothless, pigfucking degenerates who got curb-stomped by based General Sherman.
>>70582678
Is the fact that people might have dual cultural allegiances too much for your autistic brain to process?
>>70582998
You have a cultural allegiance to a nation that was only notable for losing its single war?
C u c k
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>>70582678
That's like saying you can't fly a UK and Scottish flag together. And they've had like 500 failed attempts at seceding as opposed to Dixie's one.
>>70572519
>we give your niggers money so they can breed more
>where's our thank you?
>>70583230
No, it's a nation notable for creating country, blues, rock n roll, its own cuisine, Coca-Cola, Elvis, great literature, Johnny Cash, tobacco, Jack Daniels, and most of America's greatest figures and most of it's current military.
As opposed to the North, which would rather keep jerking off about how Irish or Italian it is and inventing new ways to eat Pizza.
Oh and I don't give a shit about the CSA, its leadership was garbage.
>>70572240
>resisting tyranny for the good of your people is not unpatriotic
Patriotism is devotion to one's own country and concern for its defense
So what'd the south do:
>seceded,
>went to war,
>killed our soldiers
>assassinated our president
So if you're insane enough to think that
>warring our country,
>killing solders of our country,
>assassinating leaders of our country
is how you serve our country idk if your thought process is redeemable, seek help
>>70583916
That's because once we seceded the US wasn't our country anymore, dumbfuck.
And judging by the stupid yankee bullshit and unwarranted butthurt in this thread, maybe it still isn't.
>>70583916
The Union stopped being their country the moment their states seceded.
>>70571113
ITT: Treasonous mother fuckers that should be deported
its the flag of a failed treasonous group
>>70571608
I've seen a few at the Ibrox.
>>70584300
>these people tried to leave our country so they should be thrown out of our country
Nice fucking going there, Luigi Jose O'Finnegan.
>>70584165
>>70584267
Seceding very patriotic.
>>70584648
Is English not your first language or something?
>>70584648
Tell that to the founders.
This triggers the dixieboo
>>70584824
It's been posted like 20 times already and it hasn't triggered anyone, fuck off.
>>70584976
Looks like the dixieboo has been triggered
>>70571113
I'm not offended by it.
I'd just like to shove it up every fucking redneck dipshit's ass that's stupid enough to fly one.
You fuckers lost. Sit down and shut up.
>>70573848
how was Jesus againt poverty
>>70586229
That was the single most bootyblasted thing I've ever read and you're seriously saying you're not offended? Top fucking kek
>>70586229
did your family fight in the war?
>>70572519
>the north utterly destroyed any and all economy of the south
>the north refused to help rebuild
>gibemedats to the niggers
>the north continues to give tax dollars to niggers who refuse to work and would rather sell drugs and murder each other than start a family while trying their hardest to destroy any remnant of white southern culture
Gee
>>70574744
>lose a war to birds
>still flying the subaru logo
>>70579714
I agree with this 100% Every American should have the choice to own and fly whatever flag they wish. But yes, the flag should not be flown on Government property, unless that property is a cemetery that contains the bodies of the Confederate dead.
The issue now is since the media convinced everyone that the flag is racist, people are seen as horrible human beings for even owning or flying the flag. I've had people verbally threaten to murder me over it. Funny, they are so offended by a piece of fabric that they are willing to end a human being's life over it. To me, they are the extremists.
>>70572441
To live and die in Dixie
>>70588004
which government?
>>70588004
It should be incorporated into all the Southern state flags instead.
I don't even give a shit about that flag really but it was scary how the media changed overnight and suddenly everyone called it a racist nazi flag because john liebowitz said so
>>70588351
Federal or state governments. I agree that anything other the stars and stripes should nto be flown on those properties that contain federal buildings and workers except in the case of a monument to the Confederates or a graveyard that contains Confederate soldiers or their families. In those cases, it's ok to fly the flag. But someone flying the flag on their own property? That should ALWAYS be allowed and not attacked on.
>>70588449
yet they still vote democrat
>>70588004
Are you still mad about the whole South Carolina debacle? I'll give you a hint as to why that flag was there. Are you listening? Due to the medium to which I am communicating to you I cannot use crayons, I am sorry, so try to keep up the best you can. Fort Sumter.
>>70588449
Yup. Nobody gave a shit about it down here until then, but I guess that's the power of media. I replaced the Virginian flag on my porch with it specifically because of the "controversy". I'll be damned before I get Nazi-shamed into abandoning my cultures flag like some western European. It's not something I even cared about before.
>>70588629
why state government
they died for that state
>>70588629
Why does it matter if state governments fly it? It's a regional flag so it should be allowed at a regional level.
>>70588697
Yankee-fag found!
>>70589022
Literally 30 miles from the Gulf of Mexico. Maybe if you had a modicum of reading comprehension you'd have noticed that I do not agree with them taking down the flag.
>>70571113
you lost the war, get fucked
in the old days, traitors.......were shot
>>70589275
>get over it
>says the fifty thousandth yankee to post in this thread bringing up the war
>>70579193
>Confederates at severe disadvantage at almost every aspect of war
> War from 1861-1865
>" The only surprise is that it ended as fast as it did."
Pretty fast considering the Union spent as much time in WWII as they did trying to defeat the CSA.
we down here in the south would be happy to participate in round 2 any time.
this time we're bringing niggers like Cleburne wanted the first time.
you, your mama, sisters wifes, aunts and grannies are all fucked or gonna be.
>>70571113
Yankee here
Not offended. Don't give a shit, freedom of speech and all that. It just shows me potential traitors
Not offended. Just think it represents treason.
>>70593177
>I think a piece of cloth represents treachery and betrayal of the highest magnitude
>but I swear I'm not offended by it
>>70571113
I like it because it offends niggers.
>>70577938
>>70572519
>is this a joke? southern states take far more in in federal money than they generate.
This is only true because they have so many niggers on welfare in the South.
