How has capitalism failed?
How else would you decide who gets resources?
>>70570439
>How has capitalism failed?
It hasn't.
>>70570541
Yeah it has look at Panama papers.
>>70570627
no it hasn't. In china for example, they're actively trying to hide the existence of the panama papers.
you wouldn't even know about such things
>>70570627
All the groups and leaders involved are from Socialist or "capitalist" countries with extreme government interference. Capitalism still works just fine.
>>70570439
We are post scarcity already.
>>70570439
A bunch of rich fucks got together, purchased the government, and turned our economy into a much more centrally planned abomination that it used to be. Now, there are so many rules and regs that small upstarts cannot afford to follow the rules in many industries, yet the big players can afford to break them. There needs to be some degree of competition for capitalism to really work well. I wouldn't even call what we have now capitalism.
>>70570627
There wouldn't BE any Panama Papers without capitalism. The crooks would be free to hide their money away in pirate caches wherever they want, and there wouldn't be any records of where or any possibility to track them down or hold them responsible for their graft.
>>70570627
...the existence of which was revealed by a for-profit, subscription-based newspaper
>>70570439
>How else would you decide who gets resources?
Let robots/machines produce everything, including maintenance robots and themselves.
Everyone is free from labour and can spend their time learning/studying whatever they want or enjoying life
I can't get everything I'm entitled to. It's not my fault I decided to get an art degree! I won't put in the effort to get a real job, I should be able to support my wife and her son as a Burger King cashier! Capitalism has failed!
>>70570439
>How has capitalism failed?
It made it easier through its developments for leftists to bitch about it.
>>70571130
>Beep boop good evening Hans, you're allotted portion of 8 oz. of chicken breast certified halal by the Viennese Islamic Chamber of Commerce is now available for consumption. Don't forget to perform the evening salaah first!
>>70570627
>no it hasn't. In china for example, they're actively trying to hide the existence of the panama papers.
Because capitalism failed
>All the groups and leaders involved are from Socialist or "capitalist" countries with extreme government interference. Capitalism still works just fine.
How would pure capitalism prevent tax havens?
>>70570995
Nope. Under communism there is no money
>>70571128
But they wouldn't even hide their money if there was no capitalism.
>>70570841
Except for all the American companies named in them.
Those arent capitalist though.
>>70571760
My god. Its the source of all straw.
>>70571865
>But they wouldn't even hide their money if there was no capitalism.
They hid their money to avoid taxation by their national governments
>>70572077
Well who is going to pay for the roads, military, courts, police, jails.
>>70571991
The only way for a group of fucking robots or computers to handle the distribution of resources is to maintain a strict ration of them
Market forces (which include the masses of individual consumers) allocate those resources more effectively than a central management ever could
>>70571130
you gotta learn capitalism is a bunch of rich guys jerkin eachother off with their money
>>70572338
That is not true. A bunch of rich guys jerkin eachother off with their money isn't a better allocater of resources than the government.
>>70572338
>The only way for a group of fucking robots or computers to handle the distribution of resources is to maintain a strict ration of them
Are you guys really this stupid?
How do you think companies manage the resources within themselves? Do you think Amazon uses money (Amazonbucks) to allocate resources all over their company?
Basic databases and software can allocate resources perfectly.
Problems only arise when there is real scarcity, but technology allows us to control supply.
>>70570627
Really? You think these kinds of schemes only happen under capitalism? The issue here is not the system but the people. We are self-interested as fuck and no amount of social conditioning is going to change that, at least for most people.
>>70572630
Excuse me? Amazon is a greedy as corporation that allocates all it's resources to the CEO. Meanwhile the common man is getting screwed up the ass and like no one gives a shit.
>>70572731
Yeah but you should have rules and regulations in place to prevent these rich guys from shipping their money to tax havens.
>>70570439
It hasn't, now fuck off with your socialism you commie.
>>70572630
Do you realize how many industries the economy of a developed nation encompasses
>>70570995
Yes because under Socialism nobody would do anything bad ever.
>>70572858
Yeah it has. In fact the only reason we aren't a depression right now is because of socialism you moron.
>>70572862
What?
>>70572630
And who gets to control these databases and software?
Checkmate, Gaytheist.
>>70571865
>Nope. Under communism there is no money
You'll still be paying. Just in a different way. And where there is payment there is going to be exploitation
>>70572977
>Yeah it has. In fact the only reason we aren't a depression right now is because of socialism you moron.
Awww. You're so fucking precious.
>>70572977
Keep acting like your socialism is some perfect savior drug you commie rat. I could smell you from a mile away.
>>70573016
Unions should dingus. Checkmate
>>70573031
No theres no payment. Just take the abundance.
>>70572630
Firms typically adopt a system akin to central planning. It still works because people are managing small scale systems and usually the firm has the incentives right. Nonetheless, a lot of mistakes are done inside companies.
In the same manner, most families typically adopt a sort of anarcho-communist system. Everybody contributes a bit, nobody is noting the contributions of everyone else, but people expect to be helped if needed. Lastly, people within a family care about each other and that's why it works.
>>70572862
And?
I love how most people think the economy is the most complex thing in existance.
The fact that we do not have a single currency has demostrasted that the problem is not technical, its culturas. (EU doesn't count because they don't have the same fiscal policies).
>>70570439
It failed because we convinced ourselves it failed an changed our systems to not be capitalism.
>>70573046
I know you are, but what am I?
>>70573085
Unions? And what makes them qualified?
>>70570439
"Failed" is kind of a dumb word. It's quite good for his shit and basically allowed the industrial revolution. It has flaws, yes, but still the best we have now.
>>70573016
Whats open source?
What are metrics?
The database won't be black box.
>>70573287
A commie rat.
>>70570627
>hur dur corruptiom is because capitalism
Is because of humans you dumb fuck.
>>70573328
The only "flaw" it has is that capitalism cannot force people who cannot succeed to do so.
Socialists are just morons who think nurture rules everything and refuse to accept nature's role in everything.
>>70570841
Also this.
>>70573392
Ah. So anybody gets to control it?
I guess your English isn't that great, so I'll try again.
Who would be in charge of it? Who would be the El Presidente of the Database?
>>70573394
Fuck off capitalist pig
>>70573407
Money is what corrupts people you retarded moron
>>70573448
Only a moron thinks nature effects humans, we're not apes.
>>70573328
Industrial revolution made the quality of life of the average Briton go down. Only the rich guys jerkin eachother off benefitted.
nb4 the Communists in this thread start screaming about how we're bootlickers for the Jews or something. Or that we're against our own interests.
>>70572977
>this people breath the same air as you
Wow you're quite stupid m8
>>70572841
You can try to prevent that and if you look it up most countries have those regulations in place atm. The issue is that it's almost impossible to completely stop it. At one end, you have highly specialized individuals who spend all their working hours figuring out ways to avoid/evade taxes. When they found one, they exploit it by selling financial services to rich people. At the other end, you have clueless bureaucrats and government officials who are really behind in terms of financial innovation.
It's not only a matter of lack of political will. I guarantee you that this will not stop even if Bernie Sanders is elected, for instance. Governments can't do shit without heavy financial repression, which will fuck up their economies.
>>70573307
They care for the working men. What makes a corporation qualified?
>>70573532
Unions.
>>70573623
Then you don't understand the concept of Nature vs Nurture.
I'm sorry.
>>70573623
Don't worry you rat the boot is going to come down hard on you.
>>70573681
I'm not asking you.
>>70573623
>Only a moron thinks nature effects humans, we're not apes.
>Money is what corrupts people you retarded moron
>Industrial revolution made the quality of life of the average Briton go down
Unfortunately I think you're just autistic at this point
>>70573654
I quoted it from Chomsky the literal smartest person on earth. You're so stupid I find it disgusting
>>70573660
That's because all the regulators are a bunch of rich guys jerkin off the rich guys. Have the regulators elected by the unions.
>>70573623
I see you're truly retarded. Keep thinking that and go move to Cuba and see how great is socialism.
>>70573828
Keep crying commie
>>70573820
He's probably trying to shitpost, but Canadians just don't get that they're not very good at it. All they do is make shitty posts.
>>70573532
>Not knowing something so basic
Not everyone can touch the database. That's like saying that everybody should be able to perform surgery.
The implementation is based on performance.
If Bobs implementation is faster than the current implementation, the former one gets implemented.
>>70573701
You don't understand objectivism.
>>70573766
Fuck off pig. The hammer you mean like the hammer and sickle? LOL GOOD
>>70573779
Do I give a fuck what a capitalist thinks?
>>70573820
I think you're autistic
>>70572630
>How do you think companies manage the resources within themselves?
If you are producing nails and will to so for the next months you have a schedule and a table of costs for that. You know how much it costs and how many you can produce and from this you know how to organize your storage.
Adapting to people's wishes is a lot more challenging and you only anticipate from watching the flow of money and prices what the customer wants.
>Do you think Amazon uses money (Amazonbucks) to allocate resources all over their company?
Amazon is an internet retailer. They can have the things they offer in a huge storage because they are going to deliver it to you via mail anyway. How they fill the storage is a different question.
But... yes, it does cost them money to reallocate resources all over their company. It costs them energy, time and possibly manpower.
Right now I'm having some Jack Link's.
I get to have this because someone decided that they could make money selling it, and did all the work necessary to make it happen.
Under Socialism, there would be no Jack Link's because beef jerky wouldn't be considered "necessary" for us Comrades.
>>70573923
Keep crying Fascist
>>70574094
>I get to have this because someone decided that they could make money selling it, and did all the work necessary to make it happen.
Oh your shitposting
>>70574027
So everyone who is capable of making contributions to the Database will make them.
Right. But who is in control of deciding that Bob's implementation is worth consideration?
C'mon now. Who will be the leader in control of the database?
>>70573623
What corrupts people is scarcity. There is always going to be scarcity. Evolution does not give a fuck if we are satisfied or happy. The animal that has the best chance of reproduction is the one who always want more and more, not the other way around. Even if we were much more technologically advanced, there would still be the constraints of time and mate selection. The scarcity would be defined by those two factors.
>>70570439
It's failed because everyone cheats. Capitalism only works if everyone or atleast the majority of people involved in trade/business do their business through a legit standard set forth by the market environment.
But now everyone hires a Jew or a board of Jews to swindle and take any underhanded measures to ensure money is made damn the market.
I fucking hate Jews
>>70574049
>You don't understand objectivism.
So people are good, or bad based on... money?
You're telling me there's absolutely nothing else that can affect a person, or make them do poorly, or exceptionally. To do right or wrong. Just money?
>>70574067
>It costs them energy, time and possibly manpower.
And how do they know where, how much and when to allocated within the company?
I'll give you a tip. Its not a smaller scale market system.
>>70574230
> The animal that has the best chance of reproduction is the one who always want more and more, not the other way around. Even if we were much more technologically advanced, there would still be the constraints of time and mate selection. The scarcity would be defined by those two factors.
Then fuck it! Why even attempt to make our lives better if we will just want more and more? I mean fuck it. If we will always want more and more than who cares about productivity and technology advancement. Besides I am happy with the amount of money I have right now.
>>70573828
You have no clue what you are talking about. First off, unions are as corrupt as everyone else. Second, they are even more clueless than regulators about financial innovation.
Again, this is not a problem of will but of complexity.
>>70574453
Oh. Now I see. Now I see the problem.
Let me guess. You see many of your fellow man as worthless morons, correct? You'd believe that they'd be better off if they were educated to not be the way they are now? The way that upsets you so much?
>>70571865
Communism is the totalitarian version of socialism. Without money there's no need for government. You're thinking of resource based economy with rotating positions of leadership and responsibility you fucking goddamn retard.
>>70574376
No someone is good based on how much they want to improve themselves first, then family, then friends, then society. Nathaniel Branden laid this out perfectly with Ayn Rand.
>>70573328
It's certainly better than feudalism. No Marxist would dispute that.
But its flaws, such as creating a working class with no land or access to the means of production, capital accumulation, maintaining high unemployment deliberately and the relentless search for profits by subjugating the proletariat, will bring about its demise.
>>70572630
Scale matters you dumbfuck. Central planning might work for a family or a football team, but it doesn't scale correctly to a nation. Read Mises you gigantic pussy.
>>70574215
ITS CALLED BENCHMARKING
If Bob's implementation is all around better than all the other implementation, it gets implemented.
There is no person at the top of the pyramid saying:
"I know bobs implementation is faster, but for some unknown reason I don't want it even though it surpasses the current implementation"
>>70574593
No I like my fellow men that's why I like socialism. I was basing my statement off your logic.
>>70574413
>And how do they know where, how much and when to allocated within the company?
Have you ever heard about cost-effectiveness analyzes? Efficiency measurement? You got controllers checking every department to see how much they put in and how much comes out. No, not in products. You take every fact into this calculation and that includes wages, resources and time.
>>70574614
Yes, that's nice.
But what you want to do with these people is to force them to bend to your way of thinking?
Because honestly to me all it seems is that you dislike wealthy people. Because to you, they only gained that wealth by being "bad people" in which they did not do as you think is required by you to be a "good person."
What's funny is that you can even make such an assumption at all.
>>70574453
Lack of ambition fails in nature. Most people can't help it. They want something new and better. If you think it is not worth it, do whatever you want but do not think you are the norm.
>>70570439
>How has capitalism failed?
By thinking THIS: How else would you decide who gets resources?
should be allowed.
>>70574595
Communism is literally no government. How is that totalitarianism? You're so retarded
>>70574688
Oh my god you're a pussy and so stupid. Watch Jason Unruhe or read his book. He states why Central Planning is necessary.
>>70574746
So the Database is protected by whom?
>>70574863
>Jason Unruhe
You're a Maoist?
>>70574027
>If Bobs implementation is faster than the current implementation, the former one gets implemented.
What exactly is faster about Bob's implementation?
>>70574802
I don't hate wealthy people I just think their wealth could be spent for better purposes. Besides it's not like they earned it. They most likely inherited it and if they did their ancestors got the money through privilege. Trace capitalists back to where they got their money and it comes from nepotism and so. Like Rothchilds got their money through corruption in the 1700s.
>>70574831
Most people in my town are happy with their lives.
>>70571865
> under communism there is no money
Yes there is. The communist government just tries to ban it, unsuccessfully.
>>70574688
>Referencing an Austrian Economist.
At what scale does central design fall apart? I mean Amazon is larger than many countries.
>What is Modular Design?
>>70572514
Ministry of Plenty
>>70574453
>Why even attempt to make our lives better if we will just want more and more?
>If we will always want more and more than who cares about productivity and technology advancement.
How are those contradictions?
>>70574944
No I don't agree with his actions, but he was right about many things.
>>70570439
Capitalism fails at it's very core
It's jewish as fuck, it's the only system that lets you market ANY sort of degeneracy you want and maximize profits with no concern whatsoever for the effects it has on the people
just look at hollywood, toy companies, the food industry, they can force whatever degeneracy they want freely
>>70575159
>communist
>government
>>70574784
Goood.
You are getting closer to how post scarcity works.
Its all about inputs and outputs based on demand.
There is no need for a useless abstraction known as money.
>>70575245
What?
>>70575247
Because if humans are always going to be unsatisfied and always want more then there is no point in advancing. We will still be just as unsatisfied as before.
>>70575267
How are toy companies degenerate?
It hasn't. It gave us no borders Soros and sent most jobs overseas LOL
>>70575552
LOL
>>70575134
That does not invalidate what I said. I also like that sample, though.
>>70575005
Less amount of bugs, response time, less concurrency issues etc..
All measured in numbers for your convenience.
And guess what? Numbers are absolute, they are not based on opinions.
>>70575134
>I don't hate wealthy people I just think their wealth could be spent for better purposes. Besides it's not like they earned it. They most likely inherited it and if they did their ancestors got the money through privilege. Trace capitalists back to where they got their money and it comes from nepotism and so. Like Rothchilds got their money through corruption in the 1700s.
Yep. And here we come to the crux of the issue at hand.
While there are people who have inherited their wealth, most rich, and wealthy people alive today did not. Warren Buffet did not. Bill Gates did not. Warren Buffet has grandchildren. So obviously he did not neglect his family.
But the next issue is this: Who are you, or anyone else to decide what a man should be able to do with his wealth so long as he's not using it to wreck nations and their economies like... George Soros, for example?
Would it be okay for me to decide that you're not using your internet "privileges" properly, and take away your bandwidth and give it to someone less fortunate? What about your kidneys? Can I decide that you don't need two, and take one? What about your eyes? Or your lungs? If it has been decided that you will never make proper use of both of your eyes, lungs, and kidneys, should they be taken away and given to someone who needs them more? Taken from you against your will?
>>70575663
Well my point is why advance if you will always be unsatisfied?
>>70574874
You mean where the servers are placed?
>>70575766
>Bill Gates
His dad was a billionaire
>Warren Buffet
I believe he did a lot of corruption I'd have to look further
>Who are you, or anyone else to decide what a man should be able to do with his wealth so long as he's not using it to wreck nations and their economies like... George Soros, for example?
Who are they to own land and tell other people they can't go there? They bought it, from who? The government, how did the government get it? Answer: They just claimed it.
>>70574654
>But its flaws, such as creating a working class
Those peasants sure were better of before. How is a working class bad and what is working class today? Factory workers or engineers?
>no land or access to the means of production
Because capitalism is forcing people into big cities? You have to migrate to industrial hotspots because there are the machines you need to work?
Did you get those ideas straight from Marx or is this really a modern view?
>capital accumulation
How the fuck does capitalism prevent you from that?
>maintaining high unemployment deliberately and the relentless search for profits by subjugating the proletariat
Holy shit. They're forcing those poor souls with guns at their heads into work, right?
>>70570439
President McKinley signs The Gold Standard Act of 1900 into order.
Gets killed.
Titanic is sunk because it has Federal Reserve opposition.
Jekyll Island happens.
Income tax and Federal Reserve pass in 1913.
We've not had capitalism since.
>>70575766
>anyone can do what they wAnt but not Soros
Why?
>>70575451
>Its all about inputs and outputs based on demand.
>There is no need for a useless abstraction known as money.
How do you measure demand without prices? How will you know which resources is the best to use? How do you decide whether to use silver or gold for chips?
>>70575927
So they should not own land? Should you not?
Should things be taken away from you if you do not utilize them "properly"?
Should you have a house, or an apartment all to yourself when all you need is a cot to sleep on? Should you have land taken away from you to give to someone else? What about your possessions? If you have a car, should it be taken from you and made a communal transportation unit? What about your clothing, or your electronics? Your food? Your life?
>>70575751
>Less amount of bugs, response time, less concurrency issues etc..
No, no, no. What does Bob's implementation do faster than the others?
>>70575772
The same reason why keep on happily living despite what you do mattering a big fat zero to any possible outcome of the universe in the LR (i.e. everyone and everything will forget you existed). Things in the universe are governed by a principle of stability. You are just a part of it and that requires you to push boundaries as a human, which, in turn, requires you to be stuck in a hedonic treadmill. If things weren't this way, you would never exist, so don't be upset about it.
>>70575480
>Because if humans are always going to be unsatisfied and always want more then there is no point in advancing.
That is literally the reason people are advancing.
>>70575960
>Those peasants sure were better of before. How is a working class bad and what is working class today? Factory workers or engineers?
They weren't, read what I said again. However they are still exploited, which is the source of private profit. Everyone who works for a living is working class.
>Because capitalism is forcing people into big cities? You have to migrate to industrial hotspots because there are the machines you need to work?
Did you get those ideas straight from Marx or is this really a modern view?
It did and still does, look at the urbanisation of third world countries. Capitalism originated in 17th century England where peasants were forced off the land through enclosure, bringing about the end of feudalism and the birth of capitalism. The self-employed are still part of the proletariat.
>How the fuck does capitalism prevent you from that?
No, capital accumulation is a trait of capitalism and a driver of inequality.
>Holy shit. They're forcing those poor souls with guns at their heads into work, right?
Slavery and colonialism happened so yeah. In the modern day loads of pointless jobs are created by capitalism just to maintain the system. The working week would be massively reduced under socialism. Meanwhile infrastructure and necessary services are neglected, leading to pointlessly high unemployment to hold down wages. When full employment was maintained in the post-war period, private profit dropped, hence the relentless assault of neoliberalism in the last 30 years in an attempt to reverse that trend.
>>70575927
>Who are they to own land and tell other people they can't go there?
Because it is there private property.
>They bought it, from who?
What if they bought from another person?
>The government, how did the government get it? Answer: They just claimed it.
So the government was to first owner of this property? Wouldn't it have needed people to claim the land first and then build a government or how did this deal come about?
>>70576445
Supply and Demand determines the price, not vice-versa. This is basic economics.
Cost efficiency is a whole other subject. It deals only with supply.
>>70576539
I'll dumb it down for you.
Bobs implementation has a response time of 2ns for a simple insert.
Bobs implementation has a response time of 250ns for a simple insert.
Get it? Thus bobs implementation is faster regarding simple inserts.
I know you are not STEM, but try to not appear as stupid.
>>70577732
You cannot manage societies with an open source system because incentives would be fucked. It works for software right now because of a mix of people really passionate about something and people who use it to signal their quality as workers. This last point is, I would say, really the crucial part otherwise we would see things similar to open source in another areas.
On a large scale, as soon as stakes start getting really big, you will attract a lot of people who want to contribute and influence the way the system works for purely selfish reasons. At the point, the system is fucked because it is based on altruism.
>>70570841
>>70575927
communist alarm communist alarm.
>>70577257
>However they are still exploited, which is the source of private profit.
How are they exploited? Are they forced to work there?
>It did and still does, look at the urbanisation of third world countries.
And yet capitalism has given you technology and resources to work from anywhere you want and start a business anytime you like. If people are drawn towards a company, guess what that means. It means they are attractive to people who want to prosper.
>No, capital accumulation is a trait of capitalism and a driver of inequality.
How does capitalism stop you from accumulating capital?
>In the modern day loads of pointless jobs are created by capitalism just to maintain the system.
I'm not fond of marketing guys either, but I am not sure what your point is. People are free to start their own business in capitalism and that means they are allowed to create pointless jobs.
Or what system do you mean?
>Meanwhile infrastructure and necessary services are neglected, leading to pointlessly high unemployment to hold down wages.
If there would be a need for better infrastructure and services the free market could solve it. Because meeting demands is its principle.
I don't think bad roads are what is creating unemployment. If unemployment would artificially be kept low to drive down wages, then capitalism would of course not work. Capitalism profits from peoples being employed and payed. That way you can sell them stuff.
>When full employment was maintained in the post-war period, private profit dropped
Did it?
>hence the relentless assault of neoliberalism in the last 30 years in an attempt to reverse that trend.
Relentless assaults?
>>70577732
No, that is not what I am asking.
I want to know what Bob's implementation speeds up.
>>70577526
And by the price of a good you will now how much in demand it is. How will you choose between resources when they have no price to indicate this?
>>70577257
>People still falling for the LVT meme
>>70578219
He already ran away crying bitch tears Mexico. No need to rub it in further.
>>70578817
I tried getting him to explain to me how Bob's implementation is handled. Who gets to decide when to put it in. Who watches over the system. Who protects it.
Apparently it's made by Apple because "it just works."
>>70575960
Under communism the average person had food water and housing, before that they did not
>>70576665
And there is no point in that
>>70577257
Capitalism always existed
>>70579108
No obviously. They just sat on grass eating dirt and sucking air for moisture.
Communism gave everyone the concept of house, food, and water.
>>70572224
If that's all our taxes paid for then you'd see more people happy to pay their 10% or whatever. It's being taxed in excess of 50% to pay for drug addicts, niggers, sluts and Muslims to wreak havoc that creates the strong incentive to hide money.
>>70571865
>Under communism there is no money
All nonmonetary transactions are inefficient.
>>70579090
>Apparently it's made by Apple because "it just works."
It has great reaction time!
>>70579697
And it's coded by Bob, and Bob!
>>70570439
Sleep tight hammers
>>70579108
Under the rules of Czars the Ukraine was called the breadbasket of Europe. But when the communists took over people were starving to death.
>>70570439
>JkdssYd
>>70574049
>Unironically defends Objectivism
>Calls other people autistic
KEK
>>70574413
The owners of capital ultimately govern the entity and are responsible for its oversight. They employ people to manage capital and gain a return. Those employees in turn are working for their own self interest and trading their own products in the market (labour). There are also external players who make offers to employees (alternative employers). If enough individuals can't get enough value out of all of the transactions then the business will fail. It is more of a price system that allocates those resources than you give it credit for, you just don't see it.
>>70580288
Dude. Australia.
What do you not understand about Bob's Database and how it will just solve everything ever?
>>70570770
They're only not trying as hard to hide it here because they know the US public is stupid enough to believe that it's the rich's God-given right to evade taxes while government caters to their every whim.
>>70579776
I'll go full discriminatory and only hire Bobs from now on!
>Comrade, my implementation is faster than yours by some hundred GHz.
>GHz? Stop your capitalistic units!
>Okay... 200 Megabobs!
>>70580452
Fuck Bob! He has betrayed the spirit of the database and must be punished for his sins against the workers. We must put in place stronger control measures to ensure no more Bobs oppress others through their unfair talents and intelligence. We must have a strong, fair man (such as myself) to protect the workers!
> decades of despotism enter stage right
>>70580945
>>70581470
Nothing like 4chan where men from three different continents can get together and laugh at Communists.
>>70570439
>You will never live in a perfect society that is a blend between capitalism and socialism.
>>70582608
They are antithetical by definition. You have to make a choice. Any "mix" is always just creeping socialism.
In summary: Yeah nah you're a shit cunt
>>70570439
>How has capitalism failed?
Capitalism has brought a lot of good arguably. But it's really not something we can judge without having a parallel system running.
