Was Obama actually a good president? Is the republicain hate mostly just out of jealously?
>>70547268
Best president in the history of the USA. By far.
Nearly stood up to the merchants once or twice, too.
Obama looks like Aristotle compared to the mental midgets running for election in 2016.
>>70547268
All in all I'd say he was alright. Certainly better than Bush.
Most of his "accomplishments" in OP's image aren't actually on account of him. He just happened to take office during a period after a recession.
I always hear about the republicains saying "well hes gonna take r guns!!!!!" but that hasn't even happened
Could have been worse but you'd have to be a moron to think all of those achievements can be claimed by him and him alone
He was on par with Bush
>>70547700
Literally the first one is a lie, so I don't know why you'd read past that.
>>70547268
>Unemployment cut in half
Pretty sure I read somewhere that the statistics only say that because the definition of unemployment was changed.
Alot of governments engage in stuff like that to make themselves look more successful than they are.
>>70547509
>stood up to the merchants
>literally bailed them out
pick one
His presidency was fiscally more conservative than Bush Jr.
>>70547268
All those things happened during the Republican controlled Congress. Hmmmmmm
>>70547554
This
>>70547268
WW3 kickstarted.
ALso historically low inflation. THat is the biggest bunch of bullshit ive ever seen. EVERYTHING has gotten at least 25 to 30 percent more expensive since his inauguration. Except for gas.
>>70547652
Not for lack of trying, do you not remember the signing of that bill surrounded by children from sandy hook in what was probably one of the most jaw dropping displays of >muh feels propaganda bullshit I've ever seen, not to mention the massive hissy fit he threw when the republican controled congress threw out a new federal "assault weapons" ban.
>>70548104
Bill Clinton was fiscally the most conservative.
Government spending was reduced under Bill's presidency in real terms.
Spending increased less than inflation
>>70547652
He has tried multiple times but because of NSA/CSS data-mining they know how much of a shitstorm it would cause. They are trying it slowly by getting it passed in the states.
Be liberal like states right for certain things ie gun control but hate it for everything else.
>>70547268
>Was Obama actually a good president?
Not really no. Hes been pretty mediocre actually because he burned too many bridges early on.
By most measures were at about the same level as before the 2008 crash. Foreign policy wise, just like Bush, his own blunders in the middle east will be with us for years.
He'll be remembered for being black that's it.
>>70548264
That's easy to do when congress limits your spending options.
>>70547268
>>70547509
>>70547554
>>70547652
>>70547700
massive shill thread,
>unemployment
added shit jobs, mostly because people were so desperate to not lose everything they took junk jobs
>uninsured
honestly im less qualified to answer on this i'll leave it to another pol/ack
>stocks/DOW
okay this is horse shit, stocks being overvalued is not a good thing, economically, though financially what this means is banks do well and the average joe is in the shitter
>deficit
they left the war in the middle east, then it went to shit. hey hows that war on ISIS doing again?
>historically low inflation
see dow jones, its the opposite.
>auto makers
less to do with him and more to do with people taking jobs (see, unemployment) and them making moves to Mexico when they wont budge so yes the companies are doing well, just not in america.
>clean energy
im not entirely sure on this so again i'll let another pol/ack take the shot at this one
>>70548547
democratic president + GOP congress = GOAT.
>>70547268
One of the worst presidents in the history of america in terms of race relations.
>>70548720
Isn't that right now?
Doesn't feel real GOAT at all.
>>70548720
As long as the democrat president isn't some far left socialist type with dreams of implementing a wide array of new programs I would agree with you. Otherwise the result is mostly deadlock and political infighting like we have now.
>>70548264
Again, hand forced by a Republican House and Senate.
>Thousands of children killed by drones
>Veoting anything to do with human rights and Israel
>More spying than ever before
So proud!
>>70549171
Things are improving though.
Real gov expenditure has gone down since Bush.
>>70549321
I agree with that.
But a guy like Clinton is clearly a conservative democrat.
Obama arguably too to an extent.
Bernie would be a trainwreck.
>>70549353
Not denying that.
But a Democratic president + GOP congress is easiest way to get social liber + fiscal conservative.
He's not responsible for any of those things, he just took office right after the peak of a recession.
And you just have to look at how unified the country is right now to see what a terrible job Obama did as a 'leader'. His domestic policy has pissed half the country off, and everyone is getting sick of the constant violence and the insane regressive left he inspired. Whether you voted for or against him you should be upset with how he caused/allowed this situation to develop.
>>70547652
"Why do you keep resisting when it hasn't even happened yet?"
>>70550077
Nice trip dubs
Almost all of that happened because of
Federal Reserve actions and do not take currency strength into account. Ive been watching it bolster my equities for years and it has next to nothing to do with Obama. Not that Im
But you try explaining this shit to obama voters and they get all butthurt and call you a bitter privileged cis male or some drivel.
They literally do not understand economics. They only understand idealist views and wishes.
>>70551247
Fuck my post right up, touchscreen keyboard. Ugh fuck the jewphone.
>>70547268
>unemployment cut in half
Numbers don't mean jack shit if they're based on percentages actively looking for work.
>Uninsured rate cut in half.
So what? Health care costs aren't dropping. In most states they're rising.
>Dow Jones nearly tripled
>implying the president has anything to do with this
>Deficit cut by two thirds
By raising our debt ceiling. How is this good?
>Historically Low inflation
Again, when other nations devalue their currencies, its not for making ours look strong in comparison.
>Automakers booming
I would assume they would considering they're down in mexico and china.
>Clean energy doubled
Hooray! Our sustainable energy will now be under a subsidized monopoly run by men like Warren Buffet.
Fuck off OP.
>>70547818
>Pretty sure I read somewhere that the statistics only say that because the definition of unemployment was changed.
That's just something right wing retards made up because they're pissed that America is succeeding under a black president.
Don't be fooled by right wing retards.
Ask them evidence of this "definition change" by Obama. They have none.
>>70548813
Agreed leaf
>>70547834
Bush passed TARP you moron.
Is everyone on 4chan like 5 years old?
>>70547753
It's true actually.
WAIT. Before you immediately jump to your pre-programmed talking point.
Tell me what it says at the top of this chart.
>>70547268
Don't forget his biggest accomplishment.
Added 10 trillion in debt
>>70550077
President Obama inherited the worst crisis since the Republican Great Depression.
Whenever Republicans are in charge, everything goes to shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKv-dXHhtMs
Obummer just took office after a recession, people tend to attribute too much of economic success/failure to presidents. Honestly though I felt he was above-average domestically and mostly got fucked by an uncooperative political environment. I keked when single payer was stopped by conservative democrats.
There is a reason that picture doesn't feature Obamas godawful foreign policy. He funded Syrian rebels and he helped create the environment for ISIS to rise. Libya was a gongshow. His only success was killing Osama Bin Laden and it was mostly a symbolic victory. DESU I think he's a middling but below average president becasue of how hes gotten himself involved in even more messes in the middle east and surprise surprise made things even worse.
Not as bad as dubya though.
>>70553334
>Obummer just took office after a recession
President Obama took office in the middle of a Republican recession.
>>70553439
He took office after a massive recession hit, you know what I mean.
>>70547268
Jealousy and racism. This just goes to show why blacks have such a hard time getting a decent history published about them.
>>70553111
2009 $1413 Billion Deficit
2010 $1294 Billion Deficit
2011 $1299 Billion Deficit
2012 $1100 Billion Deficit
2013 $680 Billion Deficit
2014 $485 Billion Deficit
2015 $438 Billion Deficit
>>70547268
literally Bush 3.0
>>70553566
If you have 16 minutes, I would encourage you to watch this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2POembdArVo
I would force every retarded right winger (not saying you), to watch this so they would actually know what Obama inherited.
>>70553648
Don't forget:
Donald Trump's projected deficit according to third party analysis of his tax plan: 2017: $1600 Billion Deficit
>>70553710
From a politicians standpoint, it is a very very very good thing to inherit a country after it gets bitchslapped by a massive recession because it's actually difficult to do a bad enough job that the economy won't rise.
You seem to think its IMPRESSIVE that Obama took the country out of recession and put it into growth. It's really not. Recovery is expected, you have to look at how well Obama did compared to expectations of recovery. I think he did a good job, most of /pol/ would disagree.
On a similar note for Canadian politics, the people that are getting on Trudeaus dick over our dollar rising because oil prices are rising are also retarded.
>>70548575
>uninsured
There are less people who are uninsured because he literally created a law requiring people to purchase health insurance or they would take a hit on their income taxes as a "fine."
>clean energy
It's true he helped create many companies to produce green energy, but more than half of those have completely failed. And failed miserably too. So he had to waste more money bailing out his green energy buddies. He spent millions more bailing out companies that will just continue to fail because there is really no market for this green energy because it is not nearly efficient enough. Throwing money in thevery trash.
>>70554059
What fucking president wants to inherit a great depression?
You're out of your mind.
Had a few things gone the wrong way, Obama could have easily lost his re-election and would have been the next George HW Bush.
>>70547268
Obama fucked up the US military
>>70554208
Not the worst, but not the best either nor was he one of the best.
>>70554181
EVERY president wants to come in after the great depression hits, you're out of your fucking mind.
Look at the president in charge during the great recession, Herbert hoover, look at how he's remembered.
Look at the president in charge after the great recession hit, FDR, look at how he's remembered
Look at the president in charge when the 2008 recession hit, GWB, look at how hes remembered
Look at the president that came in after the 2008 recession, Obama, look at what you're saying about his economic performance.
You are completely and totally fucking retarded if you don't think a president wants to come in after a huge recession hits. After recessions happen recoveries happen that the guy in charge will get all the credit for
>>70547268
Worthless nigger takes credit for shit he has nothing to do with, more news at 11.
>>70554466
Recoveries don't just happen automatically you moron. I can't believe retards think like that.
It's easily possible for Republicans to turn a recession into a Republican Great Depression. That's exactly what Hoover did.
I told you to watch the video so you wouldn't be such a retard.
Did you even know that Obama passed a massive STIMULUS program?!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Recovery_and_Reinvestment_Act_of_2009
>>70547268
>Was Obama actually a good president?
I suggest you head on over to Tom Wood's Liberty Classroom where he is giving away Brion McClanahan's course on the the ten best and ten worst presidents.
This is a limited time offer, so don't delay. Go to this link and use the password: executive.
http://tomwoods.us5.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=77713d21ff56f1c126607d2c5&id=0423d335c8&e=10e798fab2
>>70554867
Tom please stop using a German proxy.
>>70554621
wouldn't that make him the opposite of a dindu?
>>70554748
Economic recoveries do happen after recessions hit pretty naturally actually Anon. And economic performance in general has a lot less to do with presidents than you seem to think.
Presidents actually only do so much to impact a recovery, their overall role is fairly minor in the grand scheme of things. They can nudge things in the right direction but still. This is why every president wants to come in after the economy hits its bottom. Political illiterates like you judge presidents by the overall state of the economy and not based on how the presidents policies actually impacted the economy.
>>70555274
>Economic recoveries do happen after recessions hit pretty naturally actually Anon.
Oh really? Explain Greece and Spain then.
You couldn't be more wrong.
If the Republicans had won and imposed austerity in 2008/2009, there would have been another Republican Great Depression and things would have gotten a lot worse.
Learn to recognize a pattern please.
>>70555274
>and not based on how the presidents policies actually impacted the economy.
You didn't even read the link I gave you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Recovery_and_Reinvestment_Act_of_2009
>>70547652
He's trying to nominate a gun grabber into the supreme court. He tried to raise anti-gun sentiment after Sandy Hook. Don't be so retarded
>>70554748
>Recoveries don't just happen automatically you moron.
But crashes do, entirely independent of the government? I assume you believe that, and if you don't then you must permit the notion that the markets can, and will, fix themselves.
Much of the failures that caused the Great Recession can be traced back to the faults of Bill Clinton and his mandated extension of Fannie May and Freddie Mac via revisions to the Community Reinvestment Act. Taking the stance "Bush/Republicans did it all" highlights your ignorance on the matter.
The stimulus was, and is considered generally ineffective by the way.
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~bsacerdo/Stimulus2012_06_21.pdf
Not like we were the first country to try that though.
>>70555679
MUH GUNS
>>70555479
I'd love to see the liberal logic hoops used to come up with those numbers. No doubt only counts "new hires" and not the millions of layoffs under progressive regimes.
>>70555274
Youre right. The shills are out in full force today and cant understand economics.
>>70555479
>Oh really? Explain Greece and Spain then.
Cultures known to avoid work and paying taxes.
Taking socialist states with siesta and tax dodging problems, and aligning them with republican habits doesn't make any sense.
>>70555479
>>70555537
Greece and Sprains recessions no you didn't want to come in after. They're exceptions. Japan is too.
Obamas stimulus is mostly considered a success and put the economy in a better position than would have happened without it. The point you seem to be overlooking is that without the stimulus most economists still anticipated a massive recovery of the US economy. Literally everybody anticipated the US economy to recover after the 2008 crash. Again, I never said I didn't think he didn't do a good job, I just think you're a moron that doesn't really understand economics so he attributes 100% of economy activiites to the politicians he likes/doesn't like and is thus slobbering over Obamas dick because he was lucky.
>>70555818
AHAHA HOW QUICKLY YOU CHANGE YOUR TUNE.
>GUBMINT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ECONOMY!
>IT'S CLINTON'S FAULT!
>Much of the failures that caused the Great Recession can be traced back to the faults of Bill Clinton and his mandated extension of Fannie May and Freddie Mac via revisions to the Community Reinvestment Act.
Oh jesus christ this has been debunked so many times. You're just spouting debunked right wing talking points.
A parrot could do what you're doing.
How fucked in the head do you have to be to think that a 1977 law crashed the US economy in 2008.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act
Community Reinvestment Act had nothing to do with subprime crisis
http://www.businessweek.com/investing/insights/blog/archives/2008/09/community_reinv.html
It's been debunked. Over and over. Stop fucking embarrassing yourself.
Clinton left Bush one of the best economies in American history. 3.9% unemployment, a thriving economy, a $315 BILLION annual budget surplus, the national debt set to be paid off within 10 years, the highest labor participation rate in American history, and no wars.
Within 8 years, George Bush and the Republicans left America on its knees.
This is why Republicans can't be trusted with the economy. No matter how good a situation they inherit, they'll fuck it all up and blame Democrats.
I already know what you're going to say next. Pic related. At least try to surprise me.
>>70553076
This
/thread
>>70555951
Right wing idiots think they understand economics.
Where's all the job killing you guys promised because of Obamacare?
>>70556135
>Greece and Sprains recessions no you didn't want to come in after. They're exceptions. Japan is too.
So when you can't explain, back up or justify your stupid rules that don't exist, you just claim "there are exceptions".
Give me a fucking break.
The Republican Great Depression is yet another exception.
Not much of a theory with all these exceptions.
He basically started a race war though
>>70556535
Look, lets put this more simply, the vast majority of economists anticipated a massive recovery of the US economy after 2008. With that in mind, why the fuck do you think Obama didn't want to take office then?
The vast majority of economics after being hit by recessions do recover fairly quickly.
>>70556010
>republican habits
>>70556300
> a 1977 law crashed the US economy in 2008.
It was revised under the Clinton admin you know. The wiki article even says that. Further:
>http://www.city-journal.org/html/trillion-dollar-bank-shakedown-bodes-ill-cities-12096.html
>The Clinton administration changed this state of affairs dramatically. Ignoring the sweeping transformation of the banking industry since the CRA was passed, the Clinton Treasury Department's 1995 regulations made getting a satisfactory CRA rating much harder. The new regulations de-emphasized subjective assessment measures in favor of strictly numerical ones. Bank examiners would use federal home-loan data, broken down by neighborhood, income group, and race, to rate banks on performance. There would be no more A's for effort. Only results—specific loans, specific levels of service—would count. Where and to whom have home loans been made? Have banks invested in all neighborhoods within their assessment area? Do they operate branches in those neighborhoods?
Your artice is from 2008 by the way
http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/14/clintons-legacy-the-financial-and-housin
Here is one saying he did cause the subprime crisis, but from the perspective of 2012.
It is much a point of contention.
>>70556417
>conflating issues and points of view as a strawman
>canadian shitposting in action
>>70553648
You don't know the difference between debt and deficit.
>>70547268
>an increase in part time jobs is the same as an increase in full time employment
WEW
>>70556745
>"where do black people live?": The Post
![Tokyo Ghoul Root √A 09 - City In Waiting.mkv_snapshot_12.25_[2016.04.05_10.32.48].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LW9DRp8.jpg "Tokyo Ghoul Root √A 09 - City In Waiting.mkv_snapshot_12.25_[2016.04.05_10.32.48].jpg")
>>70553076
>>70556329
oh look you made a friend
>>70555845
That's not going to work Ahmed.
Obama is an African of Islamo-Indonesian culture, deeply hostile to America and white people.
>>70556705
>the vast majority of economists anticipated a massive recovery of the US economy after 2008
The same ones who anticipated this massive crash that just about nobody saw coming?
>inb4 muh Peter Schiff
>why the fuck do you think Obama didn't want to take office then
I told you to watch the fucking video, so you would stop being a retard.
Of course he wanted to win when he was running for president. But he had no fucking idea how bad things were when he was campaign in september, october, november.
He lost the House within 2 years, and could have easily lost re-election.
Not to mention he had to deal with the most insane, self-destructive Republican Congress in American history.
Obama inherited the worst mess since the Republican Great Depression. So you making it out like it was a great thing to inherit is fucking moronic.
If it had gone the other way, John McCain would have dropped dead of a heart attack and Sarah Palin would have been president.
>>70547268
he was ok president if compared with bush. Still spying on brazil was a low kick in the balls.
>>70547268
oh yeah. the country is doing great!
that economy is expanding so quickly!
everyone has great jobs!
and that health care, it's just so GREAT!
I for one thank Obama for all of these every day-- it explains why our country is just doing so GREAT!
>>70547268
Fuck off, you fucking leaf
>>70556824
I was promised Obamacare was a job killer. You'd think there would be at least 1 month of negative job losses since.
Instead we've had 73 straight months of job creation. The longest record in American history.
>>70556962
Not in West Virginia and Alaska.
Red states are red states because they're mostly filled with white conservative retards.
>>70547268
Why has his Department of Justice never prosecuted or possibly never even dared to investigate criminal misconduct in banking after the 2008 mortgage bond debacle?
Obama's foreign policy wasn't that bad
>stayed out of Ukraine shitstorm
>stayed out of Syria
>kept ISIS from taking over any part of the Middle East that actually matters
>better relations with Iran
>told Israel and KSA to STFU
>no big blow up with China
>BTFO'd Qaddafi with very little effort, sure Libya is a shithole now, but we didn't get involved in any gay nationbuilding that costs a lot of money and no Americans are affected so who cares
7/10 way better than Bush, simply because of no major self-caused catastrophes
>>70557187
This has been debunked so many times. I can't believe you retards fall for this shit.
Some grade 1 kid just crosses out and puts in his own numbers and you right wing retards believe it.
>Average GDP growth under George W Bush 4.5%
YEAH OKAY Bush didn't even have one year above 4% so how the fuck is that his average?
See how stupid you cucks are.
>>70557309
Don't forget Bush kept us safe though.
>>70557296
Cause conservatives love the free market too much.
>>70553076
fucking hate assholes like this guy who quotes every post and when you check the replies to some post it's one fucking guy quote every post. fucking asshole.
>>70557163
Job openings are at all time highs.
How are you right wing retards not able to find jobs?
Seriously..
America has near record 5.6 million job openings
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/09/news/economy/america-5-6-million-record-job-openings/
>>70557462
Why do you come off so desperate?
I think you're not actually shilling for Obama but rather against by attempting to make his supporters look worse than even the current perception of them on this board.
>>70557661
>Lithuania
You guys have internet now?
>>70557688
Nice defence of your debunked chart.
>>70557812
>what are IDs
you're only helping cement my suspicion
>>70547268
Libya, Syria, Ukraine, new (small) Cold War.
Thanks Obama.
>>70557916
>you're only helping cement my suspicion
>>70557661
i wish it was a bannable offense. it's just spam
>>70558044
confirmed anti-Obama shill
keep up the good work champ
>>70558021
How many American soldiers dead in total in all those?
I know Bush sent 5,000 American soldiers to die in Iraq and squandered trillions. How do your list of countries compare?
>>70556300
You're a retard that doesn't understand anything but loves to spew democrat talking points.
>>70555002
It's free and a limited offer. Don't delay!
>>70547268
>Unemployment cut in half
Amazing what happens when you redefine "unemployment"
>Uninsured rate cut in half
Thanks to the mandatory tax you have to pay if you arent insured.
>Dow Jones nearly tripled
So the rich are getting even richer. How exactly is this a good thing? (INB4 Trickledown economics meme)
>Deficit cut by two-thirds
So we're still spending more money than we have, thus continuing to add to our 20 TRILLION dollars of debt
>Historically-low inflation
Thanks to FED keeping interest rates artificially low (MUH QE)
>Automakers booming
Even though people cant afford cars
>Clean energy doubled
Pretty much the only good thing on this list, even though most of the "renewable" energies hippies love do more harm to the environment than nuclear power.
Obama was, at best, a mediocre president. Better than Bush (either one), but certainly no godsend. 5-6/10 at best
>>70557261
Most of that is farming and ss, neither of which are considered "leeching."
>>70552905
Why don't you expand your time scale?
>>70558143
Solid rebuttal.
Or maybe I actually lived through the Clinton, Bush and Obama years so I know how good Clinton and Obama were and how shit Bush was.
>>70558244
>says the guy whose chart ends in 2012
>>70557462
You keep claiming shit has been debunked but offer no proof? On top of that you post no OC but recycled garbage with sources being government departments under Obama's control. Silly goose. You're trying too hard buddy.
>>70558257
You're not even american. Why are canadians working so hard to be the best shitposters?
>>70558343
RARE FLAG
>>70547892
>fiscally conservative
>raised national debt more than every president before him combinef
i knew you shills were retarded but i think you need an anal bleaching
>>70558343
The BLS has been reporting labor data since the 1800's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_of_Labor_Statistics
The monthly job reports were never controversial until a black man became president and right wingers lost their minds.
March 2015 23% unemployment rate?
You're out of your fucking mind.
Donald Trump says the unemployment rate may be 42 percent
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/30/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-unemployment-rate-may-be-42-perc/
WAIT. Before you immediately jump to your pre-programmed talking point.
Tell me what it says at the top of this chart.
>>70553710
Great propaganda flik! Lotsa soft soap sells of pure hog wash! GDP growth has had to be revised downward EVERY month since Barry gutted the reporting agencies. After the Democrats took congress in 2006, the economy has been a basket case. Only by redefining 'unemployed' and 'full-time' has that rate been made acceptable. Wages and pre-O salaries are still down IRL. Un-insured were not 'cut in half'. DJ helps Barry's rich DEMOCRATIC and RINO buds, not Joe Sixpack. Deficit was cut by smoke and mirrors, not anything to be proud of. Inflation still outpaces wages by every measure. Find a job making cars in the USA. Twice an insignificant amount is still insignificant.
Not that I'm a Bush fan, but Barry meant to do the above and succeeded. G stumbled into the Clinton mess and never defended himself. I blame Rove.
>>70558323
Lets combine them:
Unemployment 05.2008 : 5.0%
Unemployment 02.2016 : 5,3%
>>70547268
>Unemployment Cut in Half
Wrong
Now go and suck Obamas dick.
>>70558676
You're a retard. Obama wasn't president in 2008.
See how stupid you are?
Under Obama, the unemployment rate has been cut in half.
My charts are precisely during Obama's term.
You think Obama was president in 2008? What a fucking moron.
>>70558589
You talking about Reagan? Yeah he TRIPLED the national debt. Everyone knows that. That's why conservatives worship him.
>>70547268
>unemployment cut in half
Somewhat true, even when you take into account U6. However, this has very little to do with Obama and more to do with the Fed. TARP's impact remains controversial.
>Uninsured Rate cut in half
True. He's directly responsible for that due to Obamacare.
>Dow Jones Nearly Triped
Thats due to the Fed, not Obama.
>Deficit cut by two thirds
Nothing to do with Obama. The sequester plus the improving economy took care of that.
>Historically Low Inflation
That's actually a bad thing. In absence of a rise in productivity or a fall in the price inputs, this means that the economy is lagging due to demand.
>Automakers booming
More to do with Bush than Obama. Obama wasn't even in office when the bailout got passed.
>clean energy double
This has to do with the continued rise in technology in the solar and wind sector which has nothing to do with Obama.
>>70559687
Oh my mistake. TARP wasn't even Obama; Bush was the one who signed it.
>>70558913
why isnt obamas 10trillion on there u shill faggot
>>70559687
you faggots never mention the bubbles that the fed and obama have created
>>70559910
Would still be less than Reagan and Bush.
Also keep in mind that Obama cut the budget deficit by 2/3.
If you're mad at Obama over the national debt, take it up with Republican 9/11 America Defender hero George W. Bush who turned a Clinton surplus into a deficit, crashed the economy and left Obama a $1.4 TRILLION budget deficit.
>>70560028
MUH BUBBLES
MUH HYPERINFLATION
MUH GOLD
>>70560138
he added more to the deficit than every president before him combined, are you retarded?
>>70560211
You don't even know the difference between debt and deficit.
It's so easy to confuse you right wing retards.
Works like a charm every time.
Fucking conservatives man. Biggest retards on the planet.
>>70560288
DUDE! tell me how well your dollar is doing? oh gold reserves you say? lol please tell me how well your homo libtard muslim PM is doing
>>70557661
This.
>>70558913
Interest rates and inflation you dumb fuck. Carter was president when inflation was higher than rates while reagan was president at 15% rates and 2% inflation. Clinton was president when rates were low while bush 2 was the beginning of rising rates. Obama hasn't dealt with high rates and so borrowing is extremely low yet the debt STILL doubled. Also...presidents don't spend money, congress does. They do the same shit every year, the only way they'll drop the debt is to raise inflation above interest rates and steal wealth that way.
>>70560411
It's up since Trudeau entered office. Thanks for asking.
Here, take a look at what Conservative Harper did to it.
>>70560707
looks like it tanked to me champ
>>70560774
Do you read?
>It's up since Trudeau entered office. Thanks for asking.
>Here, take a look at what Conservative Harper did to it.
>>70553076
How's canbabwe doing under dude weed loser?
>CAD worth shit
>Sold off the rest of Canada's gold
>Enjoys sucking Castro dick
>Assures Canada's cultural enrichment
>Loves the snackbars
>Identifies as a feminist
And worst of all,
>Still hasn't legalized weed
2/10
Leave the shitposting to 'Straya
>>70561964
Actually, Trudeau is already cleaning up the Harper Disaster.
Our dollar is up since he entered office.
http://blogs.marketwatch.com/capitolreport/2013/11/19/u-s-unemployment-rate-faked-n-y-post-critic-charges/
>>70547268
You have to remember that all the economy related statistics are only just as good as the people controlling the economy want them to be.
>>70562176
Chretien and Martin probably did a better job.
>20T debt
>New wars in the middle east
>15% real unemployment
no
>>70547268
why is more people paying monthly insurance bills a good thing ? the dream is to have access to wide spread and inexpensive products and services.
