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Is there any hope for Poland with the economy the average polack
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Is there any hope for Poland with the economy the average polack is poor as fuck compared to the rest of the world, while it is based culturally and Germany is cucked but in Germany you get good income.

How can Poland improve?
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>>70546697
>more poor than the rest of the world
sure, we starve to death on the streets
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>>70548492

I think he means less iPhones per capita
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Meh, we have low income, but we also have a low cost of living.
All in all, ain't that bad.
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>>70546697
I've been to Spain, there's no reason for you to be cocky about anything.
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>>70550273
Im not being cocky im from Poland myself
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>>70548618
this.
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You Polish people need a higher self-confidence. If you read what Poles write about Poland on the internet, you'd immediately think Poland is a third world country where people live in slums and children starve to death, but in fact Poland has a pretty decent economy with a good healthcare system and free education, the only thing which sucks is the problem with unemployment and little social benefits and pensions, but apart from that... OK; incomes in Poland are lower than in other EU states, but so is the cost of living. So what?

If you think Poland is fucked up, I'd advise you to travel to real 3rd world countries like Vietnam in order to see the difference. (I am an expat and not a Vietnamese person by the way)
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>>70551176
>healthcare system
Hahaha, good laugh.
>little social benefits
Like that's a bad thing.
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>>70551295
If you had to choose between a Polish hospital and a hospital in Cambodia, Peru, Angola or even Romana or Ukraine, where would you go?
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At least Poles will always have Witcher
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>>70551295
Shut up Muhammed,
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>>70551460
Of course Poland, but we Poles never compare ourselves (unless jokingly) with third world countries but our European neighbours like Germany.
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I think Poles are world champions at complaining for no reason. If you look at poland, you see the advantages of living in Poland immediately:

- good climate (neither too hot nor too cold)
- not overpopulated
- no conflicts with ethnic minorities etc., no risks that a civil war may come soon
- no natural disasters except some floods occasionally (but no earthquakes, volcanoes, hurricanes etc.)
- much nature and many old towns with beautiful churches, castles, towers, cathedrals, markets etc. that increase quality of life
- very delicious food
- lots of good-looking women

Of course, living in Poland is sometimes not so easy, especially if you're unemployed or old, so Poland is far away from being the best country to live in, but it's not a shithole either. Actually Poland is even doing surprisingly well for an ex-commie state.
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ANd if you have a good family you can always rely on, everything is automatically easier anyway.
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>shitting on a former communist bloc country that has done very well since the Berlin Wall fell.

why are EU shills such cunts fa-m?
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>>70552572
wait a minute Spain is way poorer than Poland

you can't make this shit up
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>>70551972
But even in Eastern Europe... Would you rather be Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria or Albania? The thing is, Poland is still not on the same level as the UK, France, Germany etc., but almost on the same level as Portugal, Spain and italy :D They also have unemployment and little incomes, but the weather is nicer... ;)
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>>70546697
Look who's talking
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low cost of living, dont have to buy chairs
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>>70546697
>but in Germany you get good income

no you dont
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>>70551295
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/jun/01/poland-medical-tourism-half-price
then why do you come to our country for cheap medical treatments?
friend of mine has a company which supports medical tourism to poland because of high demand, and he make great money on that
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>>70552869
He was talking about "refugees"
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>>70546697
Spain Youth Unemployment Rate:45.30% for Feb 2016

https://ycharts.com/indicators/spain_youth_unemployment_rate_lfs

Poor as fuck.
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The truth about German incomes is that they did not rise for the last 20 years. The claim that Germans are a rich people was true between 1970 and 1990, but nowadays the richfags are in Scandinavia, Switzerland, Austria, Benelux and maybe France.

OK, there are still many rich Germans, but many to not have more than 600-800 netto per month in spite of having a full-time job, and in Germany this is almost nothing as costs of living are rising and rising, but the incomes are at the same level as they were in 1990.
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>>70551176
Lads, let me tell you about Poland. Poland is many things, but not 'cool'. Poland is your blood and bones, in fact wherever a Pole is there is Poland. That's how Poles refer to each other - as their own blood and bones.

Poland is the constant longing. Not longing for success, or for freedom, or for power. Poland is the constant longing for longing's sake, and that is because of a typical Pole's void where his soul used to be. Polish souls died long ago and we're all living in a purgatory.

You may muse why Poles do not show happiness casually. Why would they? Happiness is private. Happiness is the only thing still belonging to you, not to your ancestors. They always demand your blood, your sacrifice, your work for your Fatherland's magnificence but never ask you to be happy. Happiness is yours only. If a Pole decides to share his inner happiness with you then, by God, you are his. Forever. You are Poland henceforth.

Poles rarely show enthusiasm or any higher feelings at all. They are sociopaths by western standards, but by their own standards they are just seeking their own completion and do not want feeling to interfere. The bane of Pole's existence is the precise knowledge that completion will never come.

To be a Pole is to be constantly introverted. To observe, analyse and come up with possible solutions. If they do not appear anyway, Pole shan't despair. Shan't show anger. These are just surface feelings. Inside Pole will have expected failure. Such is life.

You may probably have seen Poles drunk. Well, they drink a lot. They even appear human then. It's a ruse. They drink to forget about their existence for at least a while.

Don't cry over Poles, because they will not be grateful. They are walking husks drained of humanity, animated avatars of their national virtues and vices. It is not accidental that the most common motto of Polish people goes: "God, Honour, Fatherland". There is no place for rest. You live a little while, then die.
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>>70546697
Poland suffers from a bit of a brain drain compared to Hungary/Czech Republic etc.

There's also the prospect of the country becoming economically isolated if its government continues down its /pol/tard path.

Contrary to what autists tell you, rightwing dictatorships can have pretty disastrous long-term economic effects. Look at Portugal.
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>>70552825
i never actually saw someone squatting in public, it must be russian thing or some stupid meme
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Also I would like to use the attention of the Poles here and ask them if 3500 pln netto is a good salary for Lodz, since i got a job offer from there.
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>>70552250
The Poles have got a complex, because Poland lives in existential fear of something terrible happening to it.
Then there's the complication of religion; a country where the Catholic Church is so important, it has great difficulty negotiating its way in secular Europe.
Then on top of that, the history of the Holocaust is bound up with Polish history, and of course the Poles then resent the fact that lots of Poles were killed but that gets forgotten...

And so all of these complexes, if Poland was a person, they would be in permanent analysis, permanent unresolved, psychological trauma.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nwL1FZ-AFMw#t=14
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>>70553264
theres a polish guy who i work with, and ive seen him squat multiple times a day
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>>70552572
>>70552712
Spain one is in Euros and Poland's in their currency which is like 1/5th of euro's value.
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>>70546697

Western Europe is going down the tubes fast, Poland has the fastest growing economy in Europe. If Poland can set long term goals and stick to the right path it wouldn't surprising if Poland becomes much wealthier then Western Europe. Just keep the Kebabs out.
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>>70553585
1/4, not 1/5

And another thing you have to consider is the percentage of people who own houses or appartements... Living becomes much easier when you do not have to pay a rent.
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>>70553585
I guess you're right

I assumed Poland was in the Eurozone but they aren't.
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>>70553959
Spain 78% Poland 81%, no major differences here.
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>>70554422
They are growing as much as Spain is growing, too, but the differences are massive, Spain is twice as rich still.

>>70553590

Fastest growing economy in Europe is Ireland's.
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>>70552994
>then why do you come to our country for cheap medical treatments?
PRIVATE
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>>70554627
>Spain
>growing
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>>70554498
holy shiet! top kek tier lies. Greece is way down 751 Euros! That's why they voted Tsipras in hopes that the lowagecucks can live like kings and not pa denbts
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>>70554871
>conveniently stops right when Spain starts to grow back

3,2% growth in 2015 is not bad for a pseudo-socialist country.
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Is there any hope for Poland? In 50 years their neighbors will be overrun with violent Muslim psychos, while Poland will remain white and Christian. By comparison, Poland will be a top tier country.
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>>70553590
im only worried that merkel might force some of their rapefugees on us and we wont be able to disagree. there wee enough problems with some refuges from chechenya few years ago
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Poland has done very well since the fall of communism. They can't catch up with the West in just 25 years, give them time.
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>>70548591
>less iPhones per capita

so smarter people?
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>>70555725
no, we just use cheap android devices instead
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>>70546697
Why don't they try having more free market?

http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking
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>>70548492
>sure, we starve to death on the streets
Unfortunate truth.
I was forced to emigrate to UK because I was threatened with starvation and homelessness after 4 years of desperate but fruitless search for a job.
If you don't have connections in Poland you are dead.
>>70548618
>Meh, we have low income, but we also have a low cost of living.
Absolutely untrue, cost of living in UK is lower than in Poland.
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>>70551176
>Poland is a third world country where people live in slums and children starve to death, but in fact Poland has a pretty decent economy
Poland doesn't have decent economy.
2,5 mln people fled the country unable to find jobs and there was still 10% unemployment.
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>>70552712

Euro vs PLN

Multiply Spain by 4,2 to get the real picture
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>>70556109
where are you from anon?
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>>70552250
> If you look at poland, you see the advantages of living in Poland immediately:
No point if you can't buy food because you have no job.
>lots of good-looking women
They are absolute psycho bitches trust me.
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>>70554498
Countries closer to russia do worse
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>>70556067
C'mon, you can't win elections with free market.
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>>70554498
In Poland Government doesn't count your wage in statistics if you are on short term contract(around 30% of workers) or work in company hiring less than 10 people(further 30% of people).
If they did that average wage would be 300 euro
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>>70556067
because people like to pay more taxes and prefer less freedom.

But hey! If you lick government boots long enough you can get some FREE SHIT (tm)
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>>70556321
>where are you from anon?
Poland, Dolnoslaskie
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>be able to rent a flat for myself
>food is probably less chemical in america
>enough money to buy food clothing and save up
>sometimes buy a bit of fancy electronics
>fly to USA for a month or two every year from work

I don't understand how I'm "poor". Polish money is worth less than the dollar but shit is cheaper here so it balances out. I'm not any poorer than your average americunt on /pol/

And I'm not some sort of outlier, I earn the polish national average which is about a thousand dollars a month, maybe a bit more
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>>70552725

It's just how we are. If we would become the world's leading superpower, and absorb all other countries on the planet, we would search space for alien species to complain to each-other how advanced their tech is, and how poor we are.

It's a commie relict. In deep communism everyone could be a snitch (not even full on snitch, just someone creating an anonymous note on you because he does not like you), so you cannot talk that it's good.

You say everything is shit, especially if its good. Because some sad, sad people in black Wołga will come and take it from you.

And this attitude was passed onto current generation. Our millenials (gimbusy) that were not raised in that attitude are just self centred, smug pieces of shit like in west.

If you meet some pole over 25, that is not how I described, he either emigrated as a kid, or was/ was raised by party connected parents.
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>>70553226
sounds like a lovely place. ;D
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>>70546697
Poland is improving, specially IT jobs are starting to get paid really well. I read about Spanish IT imigrants working in Warsaw.

We have low costs of living, pretty low taxes. But expensive health care insurance and really obese irrational bureaucracy. Thats what is holding us back.
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>>70556884
>be able to rent a flat for myself
>food is probably less chemical in america
>enough money to buy food clothing and save up
>sometimes buy a bit of fancy electronics
>fly to USA for a month or two every year from work

You are literally 0.01% of Polish population. Most people in Poland can't afford to buy food and pay the rent from their salary so they rely on parents or partner to drag on by to next month.
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>>70554498
>gommunism

not even once
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>>70555839

That's what I meant Mariusz

People too smart to buy iPhones
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>>70557355
>Poland is improving, specially IT jobs are starting to get paid really well.
Oh great for the 0,01% who work in IT while the rest of us starve on unemployment.
>We have low costs of living, pretty low taxes.
Bullshit, costs of living are lower in the West.
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>>70557378
>You are literally 0.01% of Polish population

Like I said, I earn the national average so by the numbers 50% poles earn that much

Most of these people who complain are just young people - I'm 30 and I had to work a while to earn this. I'm not even that well educated.

Being entitled to shit is a global disease
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>>70554498

Being an bong feels pretty good

kek damn europoors
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>>70557567
So is being a hopeless wageslave. The trick is to find the precious balance.
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>>70556884
a lot of people in 'wealthy' countries ex. US, Canada, etc. are fucking miserable and the only way we can justify it is by saying our 40-50hr work weeks earn us more fancy shit, bigger houses, and nicer cars.

none of that would really matter if people were able to be happy because of things like being part of a great culture, predominantly white society, a sense of national pride, but that doesn't exist here.
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>>70557631
You are a yuropoor faggot.
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>>70557567
>Like I said, I earn the national average so by the numbers 50% poles earn that much
Buahahahahahahahahahahahahah. You don't even know what average is. It is not 50% of Poles. And you don't even know that people on short term contracts and in companies of less than 10 people aren't included in average.
Plus bullshit on epic scale as prices for flights to USA are way above national average pay in Poland(which is not median you fucking idiot)
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>>70557777

Kiss the flattest palest part of my Anglo ass you smelly boarder jumping beaner
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>>70553272
Łódź is a shithole, sad and depressing as fuck. Also extremely low income, so 3,5k is a lot. An 8/10 escort is max 150pln there
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>>70546697
"You can fix all the things in your country except race homogeneity. If you lose race homogeneity, you are fucked"
-Unknow Serbian anon, 2016.
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>>70557465
>Bullshit, costs of living are lower in the West.
That's the thing, they are comparable.

But wages are 4x or bigger
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>>70557735

Hey bro...you are always welcome here, my University is looking for a new toilet cleaner plus you can moon light as a toilet attendant
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>>70556725
What payment did you expected? I mean, I earn 2k pln. It's enough to live comfy (but frugally) as a single, and jobs like that are easy to find.
But yeah, most faggots are like "for less than 3k i wont even leave house". Fuck them, should be studing. I finished only highschool so im not picky.
Btw. Also dolnosląskie
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>>70546697
>in Germany you get good income.
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>>70557378
Now you are bulshiting
Ye, we can buy less iphones and shit like this, but things like food or housing are much cheaper than on west
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>>70557913
easy there Mustafa
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>>70550510
Polaco, polaco o polaco.
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>>70554498
That spanish saliry is inflated by 1k.
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Poland is EU/American vassal at this point, who cares about them
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>>70557355
>pretty low taxes.
That's a lie when counting in
>expensive health care insurance and really obese irrational bureaucracy.
sadly...
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>>70558633
>Poland is EU/American vassal
So was Israel once.
Poland will soon be the "flower of the old continent"
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>>70556109
>If you don't have connections in _______
This is true in most countries. Job market for young adults is fucked.
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>>70553226
>Inside Pole will have expected failure. Such is life.
damn, my pops always says
>always expect failure. In case you will fail, you would be prepared. In case of succes, you will be positively suprised.
That explains alot

Well, we are not robots, but some of what you say is true. We still have hopes and dreams.
But to much shit happened to us, so we keep it low.
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>>70558768
Not with the debt they are getting from eu, they will soon be like Greece except with more people
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>>70558768
>"flower of the old continent"
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>>70559088
'murrica will "negotiate" this debt as soon as they will further vassalize Poland, and this will happen - to secure the influence in the region
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LOL KEEP RAVING ABOUT THIS SHIT ITS FUEL TO OUR FIRE. YOU KNOW WHAT POLISH EMIGRATON IS? 10% EDUCATED INTELLECTUALS AND 90% WORTHLESS SCUM WILLING TO WORK ENTRY LEVEL SHIT JOBS FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR RIDDING US OF THIS GARBAGE PEOPLE YOU LITERAL DUMPSTERS OF EUROPE. THEYRE YOUR PROIBLEM NOW. THEYRE HYPHENATED BRITONS OR SWEDES OR NORDS. YOU ARE DOING US A GREAT SERVICE. I HAVE AN M.A IN ENGLISH, WORKING IN PUBLIC SCHOOL GETTING ~2.5K A MONTH PLUS 1K FROM PRIVATE LESSONS, MY WIVE IS DOING PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AND WE LIVE COMFORTABLY IN OUR ETHNICALLY HOMOGENOUS WHITE PARADISE FUCK YOU
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>>70557809

>prices for flights to USA are way above national average pay in Poland(which is not median you fucking idiot)

dude the company pays for this they are US based

Its clear that I'm speaking with a dishwasher in UK who ruined his life by spending his youth taking drugs and drinking, you're basically a white nigger.
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>>70559224
put between the western caliphate and russian imperialism they will be like a flower on the garbage heap
don't get me wrong, it's not like Poland is becoming a rich superpower, just the world around it goes straight into shit
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>>70559266
Most of the debt is to EU, EU controls them economically, US controls them militarily and to some degree, economically
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>>70559570
>I HAVE AN M.A IN ENGLISH
>MY WIVE IS DOING PRETTY MUCH

Jacek pls
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>>70559764
i made an error im pretty drunk and emotional about the subject
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>>70559739
what are the chances of collapsing EU executing the debt from Poland holding a freedumz gun in it's hand?
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>>70559926
>im pretty drunk
stakh far Allah...
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>>70546697
Germany imported 1 million "Syrians" and agreed to import 250k new ones every year starting in 2017. They will also give the rest of Turkey free visa access.

The next decade will be hell for that country, racial tensions will rise, the migrants will cause all sorts of problems.

If Poland plays it smart and lowers taxes rich fucks will definitely move their businesses there, same thing happened in Greece with Bulgaria. After last summer's denbt saga pretty much everyone of note moved their businesses there.
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>>70546697
>Former communist country that in the last 30 years has rejected socialism as hard as possible.

They are doing incredibly well compared to when they were in the soviet block. You can't fix decades of socialism in such a short timespan. This is a price most European countries will pay in the long term as poland rises above them.

But instead of taking their example they embrace Marxist think thank ideologies from the Frankfurt school.
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>>70559643
>Its clear that I'm speaking with a dishwasher in UK who ruined his life by spending his youth taking drugs and drinking, you're basically a white nigger.
>Escape future battlefield zone with Russia
>live life in comfortable western living standards
>YOU RUINED YOUR LIFE M8
Enjoy Ivan's artillery barrage in 2018
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>>70559570
>HAVE AN M.A IN ENGLISH, WORKING IN PUBLIC SCHOOL GETTING ~2.5K A MONTH PLUS 1K FROM PRIVATE LESSONS

Double that salary Piotr and you might earn almost 70% of what cleaner in Berlin earns.
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>>70560249
which means nothing when you consider the spending power of PLN. high-tier technology and advanced luxuries might be out of reach for average kowalski but we're not missing anything essential.
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>>70559739
>EU controls them economically,
More like the IMF controls Poland and other European countries.
And how do the EU aid even work? Are they literally loans (with interest?)?
>US controls them militarily and to some degree, economically
No this is BS. The US controls Poles just as much as the ruling party is pro-U.S..
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>>70560249
well, sure, but his purchasing power is higher. Except fancy shit, more like housing, food etc.
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>>70560004

The problem is that currently, Poland relies a lot on EU handouts as well as the rich market the EU has. If EU collapses, Poland would have no one to sell its goods to, limiting or even collapsing its growth
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>>70546697
Things change.
>In 1938 Poland's GDP per capita is higher than in Spain.
>In 1989, after 50 years of communism, Spain has GDP per capita 8 times higher than Poland.

That however, isn't irreversible. Over the last 27 years we've been playing catch up, with an average yearly GDP growth of 4.5%. At the same time western Europe experienced about 1% GDP growth. I think 2017 is going to be the year when Polish GDP per capita is going to be higher than Greece's. And by the end of 2020 it should be higher than in Portugal.

So the bottom line is - things change, but it takes time. Nobody should expect mirracles, but with hard work it's possible to completly transform a country.
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>>70560489
A lot of companies in Poland are American, they have a military base in poland, as far as I'm concerned, if a nation has a military base on your soil, they pretty much control you militarily

EU gives huge loans and handouts and investment into Poland, if that stream of money dries up, Poland is screwed economically
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http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-11/25/c_134855120.htm

Polan IS playing it smart.

>>70560524
Nothing is free my dear leaf, the corporate domination and enforcing the ridiculous laws make up for that.
Fucked up thing is that parties in Norway wants to both give handouts to EU and enforce the bureaucratic shit avalanche coming from it.

just
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>>70546697
Poland cannot improve because it is a country founded by gypsies.
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Burger here, I admire Poland's sense of identity and nationalism.

I'm going to learn Polish and would like to relocate to your lovely country. Any advice?
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born in Canada with polish parent
could I move to Poland? do most people know English?
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>>70560739
>they have a military base in poland
Had if I'm not wrong. It is just a small base with a small landing strip, no armour present or anything, just a transport stop by the middle east to Guantanamo Bay route.
>EU gives huge loans and handouts and investment into Poland, if that stream of money dries up, Poland is screwed economically
You didn't answer my question, is the EU aid a loan or a handout? And no, Poland wouldn't be screwed economically, as it's allocated EU aid is about 2% of Poland's annual GDP.
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>>70546697
If we are so poor why do so many fucks from Spain move here? Your country is on brink of collapsing and yet you shit on our economy which is growing like there is no tomorrow.
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>>70561179
> It is just a small base with a small landing strip

who cares if the military contracts keep Poland in American pocket?
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>>70554422
I'll watch the Euro crash from my comfy chair counting my PLN.
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>>70554498
Is this before or after taxes?
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>>70561065
Are you white? If yes, easy life. If not, i would advice thinking about it twice.
I don't know what are you doing for living, but i highly recommend remote work. Earning in dollars/euro, spending in złoty make you fell like fucking Rockefeller
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>>70557378
wtf stop this shit
>be me
>born and raised in small village, Wielkopolska
>study hard, get through highschool, decide to go for STEM
>automatics and robotics
>studying and working my ass off
>get engineer degree
>quit security job for 8zl/h and start engineering
>btw socially awkward autist
>now i study on weekends, work from monday to friday, salary 3500+ (only 19 months of experience) it looks shitty but enough to have comfy life and save money
>can afford fancy electronics
>can go abroad for vacation
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>>70561260
>who cares if the military contracts keep Poland in American pocket?
That "military" contract didn't keep Poland in Americas pocket you retard. USA in secrecy paid for small base to torture and transport terrorist trough it. It had literally no military strategic value other than as serving small private planes transporting terrorists.
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>>70561687
I mean that Poland goes for any murrican-made war without any profit out of it, and buys outdated, overpriced equipment from the US. Why?
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We are a terrible country, so we don't want any foreigner to come here and experience those horrors, fuck you, don't come here for your own safety, we don't want you to experience the tragedy of a homogenous, not so much demoralized and catholic population

Don't come here, we want to suffer on our own, we want to stay homogenous, to be an example for how not to build a nation!!!
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>>70552994
Sven's getting his sex change to get ready for Farooq on the cheap.
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>>70557378
>0.01%
We are the 0.01%

But seriously, you are fucking dumb. Everyone can afford to live decently here if they are willing to work.
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>>70561985
>and buys outdated, overpriced equipment from the US. Why?
You mean those one of the newest, modern F16s?

This meme of Poland buying some outdated equipment is only, well, just a meme
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>>70562160
it's a '70s construction m80
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Poland has not enough global market value
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>>70562279
Block 52 variant is one of the most modern ones though
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>>70562630
Is that why German businesses are moving their production to Poland? We have the largest potential in all Europe. I wonder what will the refugees do to your market value in the next 5 years.
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>>70562630
http://www.merics.org/en/merics-analysis/infographicchina-mapping/china-mapping.html

wait and see
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>>70561985
>I mean that Poland goes for any murrican-made war without any profit out of it
This I can agree with, one of the carrots were oil profits for Polish oil companies thought, I don't know much about that.
>and buys outdated, overpriced equipment from the US. Why?
Like what? If you mean the F-16C/D Block 52+'s then you're an idiot. It's literally the most capable multirole fighter in Europe right now, and one of the most modern. The United Arab Emirates just bout the F-16C/D Block 60+ which is one level above. But the Block 52+ are being modernised and reequipped with new computers to be able to carry JASSM cruse missiles.
>>70562279
Okay you went full retard.
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>>70563702
ok I admit being wrong on f16
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>>70556109
>I was forced to emigrate to UK because I was threatened with starvation and homelessness after 4 years of desperate but fruitless search for a job.

wow you must suck at absolutely everything
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>>70552825
it's russian.
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>>70546697

White European immigration
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>>70560504
>Except fancy shit, more like housing, food etc.
Housing in Berlin is cheaper than in Wroclaw.
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>>70564483
wut
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>>70562090
>Everyone can afford to live decently here if they are willing to work.
Yeah, that is why 2,5 mln Poles fled to the west.
And suddenly they became quite good workers.
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>>70564483
Why would you want to live in Wroclaw?
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>>70564483
well, the white neighborhoods tend to be more expensive everywhere
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>>70564576
Eastern Germany has a lot of demographic flight and housing there is cheaper than in Poland.
There are some areas where they would even give you houses for free(before refugee crisis, now I don't know).
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>>70560739
fucking retards like you need to kill themselves
eu money isn't even 0.5% of our money you goddamn retard
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>>70564616
why not?
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>>70564483
total lies, I should know I recently rented in both.
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>>70564831
Nice try but I lived in Wroclaw for 8 years.
That shithole is more expensive than UK or Germany and offers nothing in return.
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we need to deal with our brainless liberals
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>>70564912
zryj gowno, palanice
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>>70565064
>zryj gowno, palanice
Truth about Poorland hurts to much huh?
I am so glad I escaped.
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>>70565064
>atnifa
Biggest human garbage you can find in Poland. A bunch of gipsies living in dirty slums and call themselves "artists".
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>>70564912
well look, I paid 480 euros/month in Berlin and now I pay 1200 zł/month (280 euros) for about the same thing here, and many people pay less than that, if you just want a small room you can find one for 500 zł.

If you paid more in Wrocław than in Berlin you're a dummy. In Wrocław I could have a whole apartment for myself for as much as a single room in a shared apartment in Berlin.
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>>70565064
>antifa

no need to translate the poster
GTFO
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>>70565285

also funded by Soros

>go figure
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>>70557378
>graduate economics
>work as an accountant
>earn 3 750 zl monthly + monthly retirement bonus
>going for a week to canary islands for rest
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>>70564912
>more expensive than UK
kek, I didn't even react to that. I hope you're not talking about London, I have a friend there who pays more in pounds than I pay in złotych for less. Maybe a shack in the Outer Hebrides would be cheaper, but even then the groceries and everything else would remain more expensive.
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>>70564814
isn't it leftie central when it comes to Poland?
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>>70565556
UK offers diversity. Wroclaw offers nothing in return.
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>>70556109
>I was forced to emigrate to UK because I was threatened with starvation and homelessness after 4 years of desperate but fruitless search for a job.
>looks for a job for several years
>keeps looking anyway
kek, this is what happens when people stay at their parents house while looking for a job

>>70565966
I know, so sad, all the pakis we're missing out on! Although desu if you hang around Erasmus students you'll still get more diversity than you'd like.
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>>70565837
>nationalist march ~1M people

>recent leftist (KOD) march ~20-50k
>last Polish antifa march ~1k people

Yup,
real leftie centrum
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>>70565966
Now only to wait until your GF is diversified by some arab.
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>>70556067
libertarianism is dead here

>tell someone you dont want to be forced to pay taxes
you're a greedy anarchist

>tell someone our constitution sucks
b... but muh first constitution in europe

>50% of your income is taxed
poland is shit becouse its capitalist

there isnt even a libertarian party registered
the only party preaching about the free market is the party of one off the most publicly despised politician in the country (Korwin Mikke)

>the greencard roulette
pls just give us visas already :^(
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I just got back from E. Europe, but not Poland FWIW.

I'd trade being "poor" for having a quality of life like that any day of the week. We have bigger TV sets here, but there are niggers outside our door looking to steal them. Better to have no TV and no niggers.
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>>70565837
Poland has a funny situation.

The biggest left wing party is... pretty central. They aren't too toxic. Sure, socialists and stuff, but they're actually against arab immigration and such.

Current opposition is more left-wing than our official left-wing, and they're extremely pro-EU (read slaves to merkel).

The "far-right" who's our current gov is pretty much central with far-left economical view.

Our real far-right is based, they talk like it is, they're properly nationalist and they've got highly intelligent people in their representation.

And there's far-left who has no party to represent them, they're a disgusting low IQ mob strongly supported by German far-left, going as far as banding together to attack far-right demonstrations.
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>>70566432
>b... but muh first constitution in europe
This infuriates me

And then you point out that its basically the commie constitution from 1952, just rewritten severely in 1997, and has nothing in common with our first constitution, that was much more libertarian in nature they just stare at you with blank expression.

People in poland are always very opinionated on all subjects, especially on those they know fuck about.

Like people that bitch the most about politics and politicians don't even vote
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>>70566754
One day....
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>>70566614
>No TV.
THe heck third world country you making out of us. The only difference is that between us and Western Europe is that we don't buy flagship phones, instead we buy medium-class phones. Same to TVs.
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I'll be in Wroclaw next month, can someone tell me the odds of seeing a shitskin while I'm there?
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>>70566972
Bosak is cool. He's like a Chuck Norris when it comes to fighting off lefties by only using logical arguments. And young too.
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>>70567038
You'll probably see some British tourists looking to get drunk so quite high
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>>70567038
2%. Depending on where you'll be.
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>>70567029
It was for rhetorical effect you dumb Polack

fuck no wonder why your country sucks balls
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>>70567038
A few days ago I saw a nigger near Galeria Dominikańska. Then I looked across the street and saw another one!! Two niggers at the same time!! I thought I should almost take a picture. They seemed like tourists though.
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>>70567038
Wroclaw is pretty high.
In the centre i would say 3-4% to see a shitskin and 10% to see some niggers (German tourists)
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>>70566754
what about Razem and their kike leader?
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>>70567154
Kek

>>70567186
Too high for my liking. Thanks, Anon
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>>70558633
> A fucking leaf
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>>70567292
irrelevant
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>>70567038
I think they do have mirrors there.
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>>70553226
Jesus, dude...
That's just...
So fucking true.
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>>70566972
Polish visiting germanistan
I saw him on my Trip to Warsaw. He looked at me, and I cumed. It was a good day.
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>>70553226
Accurate/10
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>>70565837
lol wut? wrocław is one of comfiest cities in poland. highly reccomend
>>70564483
lol wut? I wont even comnent this mate
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>>70555430
>merkel might force some of their rapefugees on us
No, she cannot. We have already passed a law that won't let EU "enrich" Poland with their sandniggers by quotas. However if they will be still trying, Poland will leave the EU. At least I hope Jarosław has balls to do that.
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>>70565837
I would say We dont have something like this. Maybe a little bit in Warsaw but thats all.
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>>70553264
fuck off, I squat regularly
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By raping and pillaging Germany
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>>70565149
asbestos factory worker Seba detected.
Hope you like 5m2 "apartment" shared with 6 other Mati and Karynas.
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>>70558502
Please, fuck off.
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>>70569743
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTuYXZSW6rE

I will never hold her...
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>>70553226
>tfw this is my existance
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>>70546697
Invade Cuckmany. They'd be doing both nations a favor in the long run.
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>>70546697
Hitler once said that economics is only secondary to the culture & the people.
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>>70569743
>this will never happen
;_;
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>>70567207
Enjoy begin cucked by Tyrone, Steve. I in the meantime will watch natgeo, so i finally could see those famous niggers.
Stay salty
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>>70570013
And he crashed all three with no survivors.
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>>70557378
>You are literally 0.01% of Polish population. Most people in Poland can't afford to buy food and pay the rent from their salary so they rely on parents or partner to drag on by to next month.
No, you are literally 0.01% of Polish population that are total losers. You are a failure. You are lazy and uneducated or you have some shitty degree like philosophy or history and you are surprised you can't find a job. Stop telling that bullshit. The truth is everybody who isn't retarded and is willing to work can have decent life in Poland.
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