Why is this happening /pol/?
In Spain we face the worst decline out of all countries in Europe, loosing 9.4 Million people in the next 35 years.
We're currently the country with the most old people too.
What is the cause of Europe's population decline?
What has changed since the 20th century?
Why do European countries seriously believe that importing refugees is the awnser, eventually there will be so few natives left they'd have to accept the immigrants in the government and eventually they take over, this isn't supposed to be happening damnit, isn't there another way to fix this?
The answer isn't refugees, the answer is automation.
Fewer people that can all live in wealth and prosperity. Stupid liberals and socialist are fucking it up by thinking africans are humans.
>>70529287
Rich countries tend not to have kids dude. Plus women have more freedoms. Ball in the day my grandma was like 13 when she met my 30 year old grandpa. They had like 11 kids because that's all that was expected of women
Is banning contraception a good alternative?
I think the problem in the west is that people are so addicted to sex they aren't prompted to have children till they're really old.
We have social programms and benefits yet they don't do anything.
I think its the fact that condoms are so easy to obtain is the reason the population is halting.
>>70529287
Children in developed countries tend to have stable childhoods which leads them to only have a few kids if any at all.
Children in shithole countries tend to have awful childhoods which leads to them fucking like rabbits later on in life.
US is an exception because Dems keep importing shitters to rig the vote in their favor.
>>70529287
Africa is the future. And the future is very dark.
Be happy that you will probably die before it happens.
>>70529287
People in developed countries don't want to have kids, kids are expensive and take time away from your career or leisure time, they're something you do once you're 30-something and have a stable life. By that point you've probably got time for 2 max unless one of the parents is willing and able to be a stay-at-home, which is rare these days since two-income homes are the norm.
If an established developed country isn't experiencing population decline its because they're making up the difference with immigrants or a poor underclass that breeds like rabbits (America does both).
>>70529287
Feminism and atheism caused decline in Europe.
>>70529287
>What is the cause of Europe's population decline?
Career women and contraception for females.
>What has changed since the 20th century?
Women's suffrage & female contraception both became things that exist.
>isn't there another way to fix this?
Soon Adolf Hitler will come back to save us.
>>70529287
>Why is this happening /pol/?
Social securities allows women to live a risk-free life without having to dedicate herself to a husband. The result is that women no longer perform the responsibility required to maintain their nation because it is no longer a necessity. Another side effect of social securities is that women breed with the "hottest guy" instead of a smart and stable provider, resulting in generations of africanized genes bred for violence.
>>70529287
colectivism/socialism/statism
In 2100 there will be so many Nigerian princes.
>>70529287
>Nigeria will surpass the US in population
fug :D
>>70529287
Marxists destroying the family unit. Using contraception and straight out murdering their own unborn children because fornicating is fun.
>>70529287
Just like the Mouse Utopia experiment.
-Anticonceptivos.
-Entrada de las mujeres al mundo laboral.
-Destrucción del concepto de familia.
-Crisis (ya no queremos inundar tú país como en el gobierrno de ZP).
>>70529287
jews
we must kill them
>>70529474
This
>>70529287
Because carrying a kid around for 9 months and then raising it for 2 decades before it's productive only makes much sense from the PoV of religion and to ensure you have care in old age. As society took care of old age care and religion went away so did the benefits from having children.
The solution for now is to just accept it, but put some reasonable limits on healthcare and pension costs. Most older people can be taken care of with relatively few workers and they don't need to consume a lot either. A few will have to die for simply being too great a burden, which you might be able to keep alive with more workers but c'est la vie.
This way the per worker wealth won't be impacted too badly, our old people just won't be able to buy mansions and have 4 vacations a year.
PS. basically just do everything Japan is doing, maybe start copying Israel too if you want to stabilize the population.
>Number of people finally declines
>Less unemployment, less hunger, more people (ratio, not total) are wealthy
>Meanwhile, in lefty-land: "OH SHIT OH FUCK OH SHIT IF THERE'S NO POVERTY AND NO LACK OF EDUCATION, WHO'S GOING TO VOTE FOR US?!?!?!?!?"
>Oh wait, I know: We'll just ENSURE that there are always going to be uneducated poorfags by importing the least qualified people who have no chance of employment and reproduce faster than bunnies, and we tell them that the reason nobody employs them or gives them free money is because of white racism against them!
>Marx, Engels... this is what you wanted, right? This is my promise I made to you.
>>70529287
u can't fix this, europe is lost now
>>70529287
>what is the cause of this
Feminism
>Isn't there another way to fix this
Get a good paying job save up enough money and live out the last of your days in comfort.
>because this world isn't worth saving
Developed countries don't have as much worry for their survival -- as they've advanced beyond that; as such, they don't need to keep fucking like savages.
If you want to be like the savages, go to Africa, where they fuck freely and without thought.
And, to answer the refugee question: it's destructive "altruism." They want to seem like they're oh-so-caring at the detriment to their people because they hold the economy above all.
>>70529474
FPBP
Also, couples aren't having 6+ kids because
>Raising good children is expensive as fuck and incredibly time consuming
>There isn't a need to have 6+ kids. Thanks to medical and scientific advancements half of them won't die before reaching puberty.
>>70533277
Germany gets it.
You'll notice that even though Japan's economy is stagnant, their unemployment is low and they have a high standard of living. They realize that populations fluctuate around the carrying capacity of their environment. All these projections are too smooth, they're more like sine waves that gradually trend upward.
>>70533475
one day the mexicans will outnumber the humans
>>70529648
Nobody has kids because the idea of family is ruined, nobody wants a family anymore just party drugs sex and the rest doesn't even have a job, how can you expect people to make families when they don't even have money for them self's
>>70531855
>>70532950
We have a winner.
http://blog.jim.com/economics/the-cause-of-population-decline/
Female emancipation did it.
>>70529287
Part 1
Mainly the whole of society. Nearly everything is designed to put you into debt or take up your time in order to provide you a "better future"
The people who would normally be reproducing are college age and back in the day when all the "working a summer would pay for your entire undergrad" it was mainly males working and educating with the women at home taking care of the children and making sure her man was in comfort when he got home. That isn't possible anymore. Most summer jobs won't pay for the entirety of school and need two jobs to live even slightly above the basics, so "traditional family roles" won't fix this. The fix would be either higher wages or lower costs of school and necessities which won't happen BECAUSE of all the children made back when traditional values worked giving more people to work that shitty job that used to make more money but due to competition wages dropped because there was someone to do it for cheaper.
Honestly the answer isn't to import refugees, in fact, bringing in refugees would make things worse due to more people willing to work shit jobs for shit wages without asking for raises.
"But refugees don't work!" and those that don't also contribute to the downfall of the above mentioned due to countries needing to pay out more of the potential wages that might go to creating more jobs to give that one government department that needs more people a larger budget to make it more efficient and get things done in a more timely fashion.
>>70534692
Part 2
Then you run into the issue of people with ego and feel like they deserve more money for their shit job and do a shit job at their work because of this when they just work to the best of what should be done, but then somehow these people get raises in the hopes it makes them work harder when they already figured out the bare minimum to not get fired and have already slid into laziness. Now they make more for the same shit work quality.
Im starting to rant and could connect the dots all day so I'll stop here.
Essentially if people worked harder, businesses stopped importing people to fill in the gaps available in their decent jobs with actually qualified people and preference for their own race (not caring about tax breaks for foreigners, back to a derivative of laziness for more money), and people stopped trying to undercut each other for their own personal gain and were OK with everyone else getting their due things overall would be better.
Which thinking about it and typing it out shows why 1940s Germany was actually prosperous, when everyone was working for each other and the benefit of their fellow man and country.
>>70529287
A couple of deadly viruses in africa/china/india and problem is solved.
>>70529287
Fertility is correlated with female education, and only it.
You have the answer.
