Smolensk tragedy - 96 died, including president of Poland Lech Kaczynski, his wife, chief of the Polish General Staff and a lot of important goverment officials. It's 6th anniversary today.
>In a CBOS opinion poll on the fifth anniversary of the disaster, only 20% said the crash had been fully explained, while 31% said it had been the result of an assassination or attack.
source: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35924688
Most of PiS voters (Law and Justice - current rulling party) believes in attack/bomb conspiracy theory.
e.g.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DbLgBifsTU <= video from the accident place (alleged)
On the other hand there's actually recording from the pilot cabin (delievered by russian air crash specialists - so it's not convincing fans of conspiracy theories): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NOV5Xdt238&nohtml5=False <= 0.18, PULL UP PULL UP TERRAIN AHEAD - pilots ignored TAWS system becouse they landed on small, military airport which wasn't in TAWS database (they can't turn it off).
So - that was just accident or assasination attack?
accident I swear
>>70528923
smolensk kurwa maneuver*
>>70528923
dobrze że zdechli
>>70528923
>e.g.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DbLgBifsTU <= video from the accident place (alleged)
You can clearly hear 4 shots and laughing in between in that video after 0:57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rn4YXinczw
>>70529355
Nie szkaluj Bolzki chuju xD
>>70529770
That's why I posted it here - idk origin of this video but it may be a legit proof for the conspiracy theory (seems like someone was shooting to wounded in crash)
>>70528923
>0:18 PULL UP TERRAIN AHEAD
>0:35 AAAAAAAH KURWA
>>70529259
That's a pretty big plane. This is actually what would happen but plane would fall on it's tail.
>>70530979
For You
>>70528923
Polska to gówno a polacy to zwierzęta, pozdrawiam.
>>70529770
This is fucken joke.
Subtitles are completely wrong, I can't hear nothing that they wrote.
"Shots".... Surprise, there're many things in an airplane that will explode in fire. Fuel, batteries and other staff. I also can suppose that presidential security had some weapons, maybe even grenades.
>>70531077
You realize that jet can do this because it have more thrust compare to it's mass. Wings are more like wiglets used to guide it.
Commercial planes are heavy and rely on a lift create by wings. If you try to point it up you will loose your lift and fall.
>>70530355
>seems like someone was shooting to wounded in crash
Seem like something exploded in the burning plane. Also, see the fucken tree falling in 0:58-1:00
>>70531532
has* and winglets* ffs
>be fascist goverment
die
>be brother to said fascist
>continue to be fascist
its like you dont get the point
>>70531215
Jokes, still keeps wreckage
>>70528923
You got to admit, it took a lot of balls from Putin to murder half the Polish military command structure.
>>70528923
that scream at the end is bizarrely terrifying and eliciting a laugh from me at the same time
its like a scream from south park
>>70532219
You know I think we just threw it away at some point and now have to pretend we got it.
>>70531532
he was just baneposting tho
>>70531532
he was of telling jokings comrade
>>70528923
Considering it is your guys that did investigation, conspiracy would involve the coverup from Polish side.
Its retarded accident because of pilot mistake and your chief of defence being drunk retard, just like a Boying recently in same area.
>>70529770
why someone would shoot a man after crashing the plane?
>>70529770
Whoa. There were zombies at that plane so soldiers had to shoot them. WTF Poland you planned to infest Russia with zombies?
>>70532637
>>70532639
Oh yeah... I don't really consume popculture. This butchery of english language tho.
>>70533695
>>>/reddit/
It was a massacre of innocent Poles by bloodthirsty Russian Mongols.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGXgCkUO94A
>>70530679
Also, there are TWO ORIGINAL cockpit recordings that differ slightly from each other.
>>70531215
>This is fucken joke.
Shots fired on such a site are no joke.
>Subtitles are completely wrong, I can't hear nothing that they wrote.
They are not wrong, well at least half of them are right, turn up your volume. But yeah, I wouldn't provide the subtitles as proof, especially when
some of the audio dialogue is not entirely recognisable.
>"Shots".... Surprise, there're many things in an airplane that will explode in fire.
Those are clearly cartridge's (most like pistol rounds) going off, if from dead(?) BOR security or those shady dudes walking amongst the wreckage can't be really determined.
>>70532219
Exactly, this is one of the more shady puzzle piece in this puzzle. You should have seen how the Russian authorities treated the plane wreckage, like a peace of scrap metal junk, breaking its windows with sticks (windows attract explosive material for example), using excavators to literally crash some of the parts of the plane even more... And oh, they still didn't give back the wreckage AFTER 6 YEARS of a tragedy of such calibre, this is not normal.
>>70533816
I don't act like 9gag didn't steal your maymays.
>>70529259
>mig29 can do cobra
Interesting, I didn't know that.
>>70531184
Słabe ma kolega te bejty. Rzec by można chujowe. Kłaniam się.
>>70533006
>conspiracy would involve the coverup from Polish side.
Exactly. You don't realise that there are fractions within Poland and that Russia had/has(?) insight/control(?) into the state and over the political system through agencies like WSI.
And traitors like Komorowksi, which was close to one former KGB/then FSB agent and part of the Russian Stavka, invited such people to the Polish BBN (national security bureau)...
>>70533365
Because he was intended to die in the crash and didn't?
>>70528923
Sprawa się nie wyjasni, dopóki Smolensk nie wroci do Macierzy.
>>70531532
You obviously don't know what winglets are
>>70531215
Russians trying so much to explain this thing makes it even more suspicious.
>many things in an airplane that will explode in fire
Go ahead, search for explosion videos on youtube
>I also can suppose that presidential security had some weapons, maybe even grenades.
with all the coincidence theory around it, it wouldn't be supernatural for them to die in plane crash, and that just made it easier for you to execute the rest :^)
>>70534001
>Shots fired on such a site are no joke.
Where is no proof that were shots, not explosions
>They are not wrong, well at least half of them are right, turn up your volume
Yeah, the part with "suka blyat' pizdets, uhodim" is not wrong. But this don't change anything.
>Those are clearly cartridge's (most like pistol rounds) going off
Are you an expert in shot sounds recorded to shitty microphones or what? How can you distinguish shot and battery explosion?
This is the dumbest conspiracy theory I ever saw.
>>70534579
>intended to die in the crash and didn't
it would be extremely painful
>>70528923
How many they have paid?
>>70528923
Best meme in the thread, coming through.
>>70528923
It was no accident.
>>70534970
courtesy of our MoD
>>70534858
Actually I struggled to find a different word than a wing. Just scrap that one sentence.
Pylon? Lifter? Trim? I blame KSP.
>>70535138
It's already in the first post though.
>>70535420
Well thats a shame, Ive been waiting like 2 years to bust that out.
>>70534865
>search for explosion videos on youtube
Easy, bitch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2ZdDDRjEg4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HANwJp8Z5mc
>>70534889
PROOFS
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>>70534673
To...
>>70528923
My forest is so based, that he killed your funny little president, get on with it kurwa.
>>70534001
>they still didn't give back the wreckage AFTER 6 YEARS
We can't because Poolan insist on keeping investigation open.
Who cares what happened? Whether they removed themselves or Russia removed them the world is still a better place.
>>70534889
>Yeah, the part with "suka blyat' pizdets, uhodim" is not wrong.
"Nie zabijacie nas", "dawaj tuda paskuda", "ubijaj tuda" are not wrong either. Also the laughing in between of the shots/"explosions" are interesting as well. Then uhodit, uhodit!
The filming guy, that got backstabbed twice after filming that and died the second time in a hospital, moved back on hearing the first shot and started repeating "no fucking way!" in disbelief.
>How can you distinguish shot and battery explosion?
I know how bullet sounds crack, and those are classic sounding bullet sounding cracks, about 9mm.
>How can you distinguish shot and battery explosion?
>>70535992
Are you deaf or something?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2ZdDDRjEg4 [Embed]
That's not a 9mm pistol cartridge sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HANwJp8Z5mc [Embed]
That's clearly not a 9mm pistol cartridge sound.
>>70537835
You're retarded. Poland has asked Russia to give back the plane for the investigation for 6 straight years and Russia ignores that, like they have something to hide even after destroying lot of the plane wreckage on purpose during the Russian "investigation".
>>70538327
>Russia ignores that
Should we ignore our own laws instead? Poolan can go fuck itself with their attitude.
>>70528923
Fucking Stalin.
>>70538590
>Poolan can go fuck itself with their attitude.
You have the fucking nerve... Shut the fuck up. That plane is the property of the Polish state and should be returned immediately wishing the first weeks to Poland under international law.
>>70538949
because fuck having borders and law and shit
Pilot wanted to land at another airport many kms away but Little Lech threw a tantrum and killed himself via Polenische rock melon'd arrogance basically.
>>70539220
We really need to hiroshima nagasaki again it looks like.
>>70538949
>under international law
no such law
>>70539014
Planes that have crashed, or all the parts that are left and found, are returned to the country/company it belongs to for investigation and reconstruction of the wreckage at home/base.
>>70539259
>>70539424
Aviation is subject to a number of international treaties.
>>70539391
Soon you disappear Jude.
