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They keep trying to tell us how they aren't targeting civilians and that they're the good guys of the middle east.

I was crunching some numbers the other day and all the evidence says they're liars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Israel%E2%80%93Gaza_conflict#On_Gaza_residents

>at least 2,104 Palestinian died, including 1,462 civilians, of whom 495 were children and 253 women.

1462/2104 is 69% civilian casualties

>66 Israeli soldiers, 5 Israeli civilians (including one child) and one Thai civilian were killed

6/66 = 10% civilian casualties

Explain this to me kikes, how is it that the terrorist groups who are using random rockets managed to get less civilian casualties than the most advanced army on earth?

it sounds like you're almost targeting civilians.
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t. ahmed ben khedda
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>>70518752
palestinian terrorists use their own people as human shields
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>>70518752
I don't care enough about your petty desert battle to believe anything.
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>>70518752

go jews!
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>>70519111
t. shlomo shelstein

>>70518752
maybe israel should stop shelling the shit out of gazas west bank. the moment you call them out on it though they go "MUH SHOAH" and everyone else says "oh right, holocaust, nevermind". fuck them, they are causing all the problems in the middle east. if israel didnt exist the middle east would be self contained. instead theyre expanding because of literal fucking heebs
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What is the best solution: Two states (Palestina and Israel) or one (Israel, as currently)? I know when the state of Israel was established, a lot of Jews from Norway emigrated over there, will European muslims do the same if Palestina becomes a sovereign state?
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>>70519257
>Gaza's West Bank
U wot m8
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>>70519300
Yeah just look at algeria or any other place.
It would be empty desert in 5 years
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Those Jews will strive at nothing to achieve their objective, even if it is at the cost of you.
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>>70518752
>Explain this to me kikes, how is it that the terrorist groups who are using random rockets managed to get less civilian casualties than the most advanced army on earth?
because the battles took place in Gaza
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>>70519334
nice to see you outing yourself proxyfag

>lives in israel
>doesnt know what the west bank is

kys
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>>70519300
The solution is simple, before israel the arab jews lived peacefully as jewish arabs, the creating of a country based on religion is a horrible idea, just like saudi arabia or iran, israel is a racist country, cancel the israel project and the middle east will fix itself, the jews will dissipate into the area because they are no longer caged in israel and the war will end because there is no need to fight anymore.

Pic related: it's a neighborhood in damascus that used to be filled with jewish people before muh israel
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>>70518752
No I thoroughly believe if you don't provide basic human rights to your citizens you shouldn't be recognized for statehood so I don't care what Israel does.

Liberals from 2005 would agree with me.
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>>70519558
Where's the Gaza West Bank though? First time hearing that lad. Last time I checked they were separate entities controlled by different governments.
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>>70519257
i heard liberals who spit less bullshit than you
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>>70519838
Can't we just live together my brother? Why must you always dominate everything?
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>>70519650
>before israel the arab jews lived peacefully as jewish arabs
BS
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The land was promised to the Arabs before the Jews.
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>>70519650
But the creation of the sovereign state of Palestina would be a sting in the side of the "Israel project", right? Because, as I understand the situation, Israel won't accept a Palestinian state so that they kan keep oppressing the Palestinians (muslims). As for what happens in the Middle East on a general level, I couldn't care less. I just want the solution that will maximize the possibilities of a European muslim mass emigration.
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>>70520000
0000 confirms
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>>70518752
>Innocent Mudslimes
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>>70519747
East Jerusalem and the Gaza strip, territories Israel is taking over and dominating

>>70519838
typical jew, ad hominem your way out of everything.

>b-but muh shoah
>b-but youre a nazi

you learned from the best
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>>70519939
now now big nose don't get upset
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>>70519558
>Gaza's West Bank
Confirmed retard. Hilarious that your Marxist ass thought you were correcting an Israeli on his own country.
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>>70520059
>b-but religion of peace!
-they dindu nuffin! they were gud boys

Palestinians are typical dindus. leech off welfare and cry when you pinch them.
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All Muslims are enemies of the free world, their are no Muslim civilians. Women and children die because the men hide behind them, they do not fight with honor.
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>>70518752
Israel is exercising self-defense. If they didn't kill those 'civilians' Israel would be swarmed by hostile hordes by now. And Arabs are anti-semitist to the extent that the only reason they haven't do another genocide is because they can't.
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>>70518752
The Israeli government is disgusting
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>>70520144
It's 2016 I mean come on.
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>France and UK flags shilling for Palestinians
hmmmm
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>>70520119
>israeli occupied palestinian territories are part of israel

top shitposting

>>70520144
>a jewish country made by the US should dominate all surrounding countries
>blowing the fuck out of these neighboring countries when theyre "attacking" you with the modern day equivalent of sticks and rocks

top heeb
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>>70518752
The ragheads fire flimsy rockets into Israel, which are intercepted by Iron Dome. In turn Israel fires back into the less-developed Palestine while all the while HAMAS uses civilians as human shields but Israel doesn't really give a fuck
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>>70518752
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>>70520249

When the Vietnamese fucked you, they thought the same about you.
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>>70520013
people who live in Greater Syria should unite, Syria was an example of harmony before the war, it had over 20 different races and religious groups living together and it was one of the safest countries on earth, unite that area into one big country with a fair democratic leadership and they will set the example when it comes to islam with their Soufi practices.

extremism will disappear, all the arabs in europe will go back to their home because it isn't so shit anymore and the whole world will be at peace.
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>>70520325
>made by the US
and i thought you're the smart one
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>>70520366
There that false flagging faggot is.
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>>70518752
That's like asking how Americans in Iraq managed to kill more civilians than Iraqis.

Americans are just a lot better at killing things period

It's like asking who would have more collateral damage; Israel or Somali; you know, car bombs do a lot less damage than leveling the whole fucking city.
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>>70520224
Holy Jew bullshit. Are you seriously suggesting the women and children they blew up were not civilians?

Jews, you just can't make this shit up.
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>>70520445
the US and UN both played their parts in the creation. without their backing israel wouldnt exist
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>>70518752
who come here just to spot jidf?
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>>70520562
busted
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Sandniggers and jews we lose
I dont about sandniggers nor jews
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>>70520449
>>70520467

I'm not a Jew. I just observe objectively. Most opressed nation in the whole history is Jews, so mine is sympathy for the sufferer.
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>>70518752
good insight Imam
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>>70518752
Their flag is ugly no matter how many butterflies you stick on it
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>>70520622
Alright, I feel like I can trust you a little more now.
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For the most part I'd say the Israelis aren't deliberately going after civilians, aside from the random splatting of kids on beaches.

You could say that the Gazans are using their civilians as shields but it's not like they have a choice with their non-existent fighting power - you have to resort to guerrilla tactics.

Gaza is also so densely populated that you can't blame Israelis for wiping out lots of civvies.

What you could definitively pin on Israel is their policy of maintaining the status quo. The status quo entails going into gaza every few years to wreck Hamas a bit, build settlements to create a buffer between their enemies and themselves, and to blame everything on the other side.
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>>70520622
Yes, those terribly oppressed Jews. Lying in bed alone with only their piles of money to keep them warm.
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>>70518752
I can't believe I will defend the kikes, but

>495 were children and 253 women

Kids and women are not the same for muslims.
They are used as sexual tools, as human-bombs, as a device for finding anti-personnel mines.
They don't deserve special protection, they have no value for Islamic culture and should not be counted separately from the total of victims
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>>70520030

> Christianity was born in the middle east.
> Mudslimes.

if you called saudi arabia mudslims i would get it, but now you're just imbarrasing yourself
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>>70518752
>terrorists cowardly hiding themselves and ammunition in schools, hospitals etc. firing rockets from housing areas
>israel, defending themselves, bombing dirty mudslime terrorists anyways
>Instead of blaming the terrorists for using human shields, the media blames Israel for killing innocent civilians.
>terrorist organizations spreading pics of dead kids (when they are really responsible for it) all over social media
nice try ahmed
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>>70520622
There's a reason why jews keep being kicked out of so many countries throughout history. They're fucking parasites.
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>>70520789
Indeed, Jews have been hated across the world across the centuries. You really have to wonder, if they are so great, why does everyone hate them, generation after generation after generation?
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>>70520789
Because they were most extensively spread out community. Even here Jews have been living peacefully since time immemorial. Your Christianity and Islamic close-mindedness opressed them. Do you know that first Crusades killed Jews in Germany before coming to Middle East?
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>>70520941
because success breeds jealousy
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>>70520666
No satan, it is you who is ugly on the inside.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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ITT posters from countries getting invaded by muslims and having their women publicly raped by muslims suck muslim dick
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>>70520971
It's funny when Azerbaijani/Muslim speaks about tolerance,human rights,and oppressing...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramil_Safarov
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>>70520971
Jews are by far the best minority in every Euro country, they dont rape or attack people, they keep to themselves, they contribute to science and art. honestly when I see a 80IQ hungarian peasant who havent read a book in his life go on about "da joos" i have to laugh. meanwhile like half of our nobel winners are ashkenazim
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Who the fuck is gonna sit here and defend Palestine? Are you fucking kidding? Fuck the middle east, barbaric laws aren't a culture and you don't deserve to exist.
Israel can do whatever they want to you.
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>>70521020
Yeah you only "success" is that the holocaust guilt stopped you kin from being kicked out anymore and that the most powerful country on earth protected you. Now seeing how badly you fucked it over it's only a matter of time before americans take it back from your grubby hands. We'll see how you fare then.
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>>70520789
Muslims ha e been kicked out of every bit as many countries.
Palestinians have even been kicked out of other Muslim countries!
:^)
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>>70520941
>>70520971
>>70520789
It's a bit more complicated than that. Typically, the reason Jews can even be kicked out of countries is because they're self contained communities; i.e., a nation in exile.

So, during most of the diaspora in Europe, you had an interesting issue; where the Catholic church was strong you had issues with Jews refusing to convert or follow Catholic doctrine. During the reformation of church, you began to have Jews as a third party; i.e., if you were a Jew in the HRE and your province was switching between Protestantism and Catholicism, you ran into issues as a Jewish community.

As an interesting counter, where Islam was doing well, typically Jews were well tolerated; Ottoman Empire at its height, Moorish Spain, Egyptian Mameluke Sultanate, etc. So, these nations really did not interfere with non-Muslims within their borders who paid proper taxes until their Empires went into decline.

In the more modern era, the problem kept arising in enlightenment Europe of whether or not Jews were citizens of the state they belonged, or their own quasi state in exile; see Zionist congress, Dreyfus affair, general Russo-Judeo relations after the assassination of the Czar...

For now, Israel does have a valid claim on Israel, and Palestine is being used as a pawn to put pressure on the new state by its Arab neighbors.
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>>70521407
Oh I'm not disputing that. I hate mudslims just as much as jews. both are a plague on the planet.
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>>70520783
this guy gets it

also, 2/3 losses being civilians is just about the average in any war
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>>70521472
OP here, this is not a muslim vs jew comparison, this is Arab vs Zionist.

ex: arab jews, arab muslims, arab christians, arab atheist, arab druz...etc

vs

christian zionists, jewish zionists, muslim zionists...etc
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>>70521554
NO HE DOESN'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS 2016
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>>70518752
pro tip: both palestinians and israelis are detestable subhuman scum.
nuke both when you get the chance.
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>>70521840
Or let them nuke each other....
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>>70518752
>69% civilian casualties
this must means we target civilians, because civilians make less than 69% of the people of gaza.

the explanation is simple. most of those soldiers died inside the gaza strip, exposing themselves to harms way to ensure the safety of the population as much as they could.
meanwhile, hamas regularly operates from within civilian population to maximize civilian causalities in the pali side, so he can use it for propaganda.
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>>70521404
why are you so butthurt pierre? we're more or less 0.4% of the world's population yet we control everything. embrace it, jews are your overlords
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>>70522356
who is this hamas guy he sounds dangerous

>>70522449
pretty true but you have ugly noses
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>>70518752
They are the only civilised sand niggers apart from Iran. Let them kill as many as they like.
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