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>CAMERON IN LINE TO AVOID INHERITANCE TAX OF £80k
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/09/cameron-in-line-to-avoid-inheritance-tax-of-80k/

>MPs UNDER PRESSURE TO PUBLISH TAX RETURNS AFTER CAMERON REVEALS INCOME
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/10/every-mp-under-pressure-to-publish-tax-return-after-david-camero/

>RAGHEAD LABOUR COUNCILLOR SUSPENDED OVER ANTI-SEMITIC TWEETS
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/10/labour-councillor-suspended-over-claims-she-called-hitler-the-gr/

>CAMERON UNDER ATTACK FROM EUROSCEPTIC CONSERVATIVES FOR SPENDING OVER 9 MILLION ON PRO-EU LEAFLET
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/09/eurosceptics-plot-against-eu-propaganda/

>CAMERON MAKES NO APOLOGY FOR SAID LEAFLETS
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35984991

>JEWISH ORGANISATION CRITICISES CORBYN
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35987239

>BASED HITCHENS
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2016/04/ive-discovered-whos-secretly-controlling-useastenders.html
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He's using current laws to do what EVERYBODY else does legally.

Write to your MP if you want to change the laws.
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>>70517753
Has anyone tasted Chubby's bacon butty?
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I read today that the population of Wales has now passed the population of Scotland.
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>>70517753
Straya cunt here
Any thoughts on how the EU referendum will go? Is leave a realistic possibility?
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>>70517753
>brit/pol

Obligatory response.

>don't let 4chan flag fool you
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>>70520836
Wouldn't surprise me, everyone with an education is getting the fuck out before Frau Sturgeon closes the border to keep us in
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>>70519621
>Write to your tory MP to change the tax dodging laws

kek
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Anyone placing bets on Cameron resigning by the end of the year? The referendum will be the final blow.
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>>70521668
Could still go either way
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>>70521668
It's a coin toss at this point in time.
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>>70523207
Rubbish!

>99% to leave 1% to remain
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>>70522944
It won't be because of the tax evasion, more if he loses the referendum. When his legacy becomes unsalvageable, that's when he'll resign.
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>>70519621
Adultery is legal, being gay is legal, eating a sandiwch like a nonce is legal, yet politicians have gotten into massive scandals over each of them.

The legality of something never negates the morality of it, idiot.
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>>70521668
I think we'll end up staying desu
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>>70523479
Hence why you ought to lobby to change those things.

Do you think we can stand noncey sandwich consumption a single day longer?!
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>>70524844
We didn't stand for it, that's why we plastered Miliband's noncey sandwich-eating face over the newspapers and lost him the election.
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Lads, how can I eat my chips with vinegar without making them soggy?
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>>70525046
don't put it on
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>>70525128
So should I dip instead??
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>>70524967
And yet it's still legal! Just because we ruined Miliband does not change the fact that it is considered a normal thing by the gormless and the weak!

>>70525046
Just don't fucking drown them you fuckin' walleyed cunt.
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Hey guys, thoughts on my Trump OC?
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>>70525046
Put the vinegar on when they're very hot and don't drown them in it.
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>>70525270
MAGA/10
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>>70525270
very poor.
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Stop right there criminal chum!
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>>70525046
Step 1: Kill yourself.
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>>70525703
bit arsh desu
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>>70525270
>>70525535
samecunt
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>>70525046
just drizzle it over instead of dumping half the bottle on ya fucking mong
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>>70525942
I'm sorry m8y.

Reminds me of the time we were at the beach when I was a kid and we saw British backpackers using the jellyfish vinegar on their chips the cheeky cunts. I was so confused.
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>>70519621
>legality means morality

literally the most cucked opinion a person could have
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>>70522753
>everyone with a education
so that wouldn't be the English then, who still have to pay for uni by getting into debt with the jews
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>>70525046

Fuck, i want chippy chips now.
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I'm new to economics and this board.

Is this country socialism?

Is socialism a system where you get taxed like fuck to feed Muslims and underclass?

Why is the conservative party called conservative when they suck Muslim dick and say happy Ramadan?

Is there a party in Britain that's actually conservative yet isn't skin head neo nazi like BNP?
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>>70526212

>implying i'll ever pay it back
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>>70526576
>Why is the conservative party called conservative

it's a cuckservative party now
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>>70525046
Do it when they're hot faggot.
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>>70526576

>Is this country socialism?
Yes

>Is socialism a system where you get taxed like fuck to feed Muslims and underclass?
Pretty much although idiots would claim it's just government owning the means of production. There has never been any implementation of it where this has happened.

>Why is the conservative party called conservative when they suck Muslim dick and say happy Ramadan?
Because the conservitive party should be renamed the Nikolai Ceausescu Revival Party (seriously, go and compare what the mad dictator and david cameron say in speeches), there's nothing conservative about them.

>Is there a party in Britain that's actually conservative yet isn't skin head neo nazi like BNP?
BNP isn't particularly conservative. The closest you'd get is UKIP who are closer to libertarian than conservative.
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I hate david cameron but this bollox about him having shares and selling them before becoming prime minister seems to be blown way out of proportion

who fucking cares if someone gave him some shares and he just went and got rid of them (declaring the minuscule profit on his tax returns too and paying tax on it)

the public is so stupid
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>>70526576
it's half socialist

I think the NHS is great for the economy, people and businesses can take risks knowing that their employees aren't going to go bankrupt when they fall over in the street
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>>70527054
£30,000 is literally nothing.
And they're trying to implicate him via his wife's fashion advisor.
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>>70526963
b-b-b national socialism, real socialism
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>>70525655

Elaborate.
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>>70527183
>NHS is great for the economy
What the hell are you talking about?
Private health insurance here costs less than the fraction of your various taxes that go towards the NHS.
AND there's little to no competition in the private insurance industry here.

It's an expensive drain on everyone.
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>>70527183
This. Anyone who thinks the NHS should be scrapped is simply not British, they're a wannabe American.
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>>70527218
National Socialism is the only kind of socialism that could conceivably work.
I'd argue that National Capitalism or whatever you would like to call it, free unregulated trade within the nation and tariffs or regulation outside, would still be superior.
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>>70527432
>British
>supporting a soviet invention
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>>70527432
>You aren't a real brit

t. Ahmed Muhammad
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>>70527551
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>>70527551
>the NHS was invented by the soviets

That's some bullshit logic right there. Also, nice job proving me right with my "wannabe American" point.
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>>70527317
You're missing my point
On the face of it, comparing raw costs, it costs more I agree with you (that's just a fact)

But you're missing the savings to the country as a result of the environment that businesses operate in where their employees are kept healthy for them. This is admittedly difficult to calculate but the knock-on effect of this is huge I think.
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>>70527686
>doesn't know that Harold Wilson was a KGB agent
Looks like you're the one trying to emulate American education.
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>>70527775
Also nobody's life is ruined by the taxes they pay towards the NHS, whereas most every day in America someone's health takes a turn for the worse and their insurance/savings can't cover the costs.

I'd rather have a safety net that costs more yearly than a reactionary solution that fucks me up financially.
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>>70527893
>believing a conspiracy theory made by butthurt MI5 agents

Harold Wilson didn't create the NHS anyway, idiot. Why the fuck are you bringing him up?
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>>70527893
>Harold Wilson

Clement Attlee created the NHS you dumb cunt
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>>70528084
>being this autistic
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>>70527893
>Harold Wilson
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>>70525234
To be fair on milipedo the fucking turks who work in greasy spoons nowadays don't know shit about bacon and undercook it and the fucking rind is never crispy and it's had to bite through and pulls on the rest of the rasher and makes it hard to eat because it's not fucking cooked properly IT'S FUCKING UNDER DONE BACON
the next time I get a sandwich like that fom some fucking chipsinpitta chilisauceboss hairy faggot I'm THROWING IT ON THE FUCKING FLOOR
FUNNY HOW YOU CAN COOK FUCKING SHISHKEBAB RIGHT BUT NOT FUCKING BACON
YA SHARIA FUCKING ROACH CUNT
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>>70526576
>I'm new to economics and this board.
Many will say start with shit like Murray Rothbard, Friedman and Keynes but that shit is dry as fuck and boring so if you cant be arsed nobody is going to blame you as its like starting philosophy by picking up Nietzsche first which will frankly cabbage your brain...watch some videos on youtube if you can, by the likes stefan molyneux... a good easy start to economics is the historical perspective... ie starting with books on monetary crisis, weimar/french/hungarian/south american/ancient world hyperinflation events.

>Is this country socialism?
yes and no, a lot of statist faggots who think state healthcare and welfare is a right because of a normalcy bias.. The uk has welfare state cancer and eventually its going to need to be cut out or the entire country will die with it.

>Is socialism a system where you get taxed like fuck to feed Muslims and underclass?
kind of...its generally a collectivist system in which it all becomes a lowest common denominator untill its all just a race to the bottom and monetary value becomes shit, the middle and upper classes leave or are stolen from to support the lower classes which eventually become everybody with the exception of the elite. Bureaucracy whether by design or well meaning kills inovation.

>Why is the conservative party called conservative when they suck Muslim dick and say happy Ramadan?
Because they are right of labour and mostly everybody else who are socialist fags when they are really just centre left, but the lefty cunts think they are evil because they are simply slightly more right wing.
>Is there a party in Britain that's actually conservative yet isn't skin head neo nazi like BNP?
ukip are the best, but far from perfect... any other party is so insignificant in elections its basically a wasted vote.
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>>70527775
No I get your point but I think you are wrong since people could just get private insurance rather than paying insurance to the state.

>>70527904
>whereas most every day in America someone's health takes a turn for the worse and their insurance/savings can't cover the costs.
rather than here where you die on a waiting list because there's no competition to improve the service

>>70528084
>>70528060
He's the most well known example of soviet infiltration in the Labour party.
The whole party was rife with it since the 30's.
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>>70519621
yeah but everyone else isn't running a country and bemoaning about everyone else not paying taxes, whilst not paying taxes
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>>70527054

>muh bankers muh bonuses.

taxation is fucking theft anyway, as much of a cunt dishface is id be doing the same damned thing if i had a few million.

inheritance tax and capital gains is fucking bullshit
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>>70528206
>rather than here where you die on a waiting list because there's no competition to improve the service

How about in America where you die because the healthcare would destroy you and your family's future.

>he's the most well known example of soviet infiltration in the Labour party

Care to show some hard, explicit facts to show this, or are you just going to be a pseudo-American spouting conspiracy theories as arguments?

I bet you think The Crucible was a documentary about the rise of actual witches, idiot.
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>>70528438
>Care to show some hard, explicit facts to show this
Read this book.
http://www.amazon.com/Against-Cold-War-Pro-Sovietism-International/dp/1850434719

>>70528438
>How about in America where you die because you didn't take responsibility and get your own health insurance
ftfy
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>>70527432

I agree with the nhs in principle, but its unsustainable..and currently crippled by inefficiency and bureaucracy.

The only realistic solution would probably be a government administed credit based system..

You pay in and claim credits when you need healthcare. It should only be available to long term british citizens.
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>>70528746
that's retarded
you're retarded
might as well just pay for private healthcare
fuck off you retarded tripfag faggot you know fuck all
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>>70523479
how does one eat a sandwich "like a nonce?"
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>>70528666
> but Against the Cold War debunks this popular literature and shows in detail the relationships between the MPs and their ""handlers"". Lilleker shows the largely well-meaning attempts on the part of British MPs to develop a coexistence with the Soviet bloc--both culturally and politically--and to change negative perceptions of the Soviets.

Not exactly a "soviet infiltration". Just not being as idiotically "RED = DEAD" as Americans were at the time, and you are now.

>MUH PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY

Why don't you move to America if you love it so much? Then when you get shot blame yourself because you didn't avoid the bullet.

>>70529002
Like this m8. What a fucking nonce.
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>>70529099
that's revolting.
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>>70529164
Exactly. As fit to be a leader as Jeremy "no-tie" Corbyn.
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Lost a fiver on the National yesterday. Not happy. Gilgamboa came in fourth but it just wasn't good enough. I hope he was put down so Pierre could enjoy him for lunch today.
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Just another friendly reminder that if we vote to leave the EU:

>No more cheap holidays to Benidorm with your mates
>We'll be kicked out of Eurovision
>Some of your team's best football players will be deported
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>>70529099
>doesn't know what a handler is

>Then when you get shot blame yourself because you didn't avoid the bullet.
>he thinks guns cause crime

>Why don't you move to America if you love it so much?
>thinks a nanny state is in any way British

pic related
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>>70528881

We'll see, its looks like im being proven right about france after all these years on brit/pol/ talking about how it has serious sociopolitical issues relating to islam and that the entire fucking country is a powerkeg..

The NHS wont last another 25 years and neither will state pensions.

I dont want the nhs to die, but its current form is doomed, and the british welfare state is doomed.

Maybe im wrong, fuck knows, i honestly think myself, many anons and many other tripfags on brit/pol/ have totally called a lot of this shit.
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>>70529299

I didnt even bother with it desu.. used to put a quid on it for shits and giggles but just didnt bother past 2 or 3 years.
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daily reminder

if a Paris style mass casualty attack happened in London, Jeremy Corbyn would not support a shoot to kill policy against the perpetrators

daily reminder

Jeremy Corbyn suggested that we build nuclear subs but not put any missiles on them, thus pissing billions of pounds up the wall just to satisfy his union overlords

daily reminder

Jeremy Corbyn travelled to the Calais migrant squat and sympathises with violent criminals who are trying to enter this country illegally as supposed refugees

and finally

your daily reminder

the enemy of your enemy is not your friend, and it is entirely logical to despise both Corbyn and Cameron because they are both fucking useless
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>>70529299
Don't worry, just to go get a lasagne from Iceland and you'll have a piece of Gilgamboa to keep in your freezer and eventually eat.

>>70529315
All of those sound like improvements, honestly.

>>70529327
>thinking I said "guns cause crime"

Nigger what? I was saying that instead of blaming the person shooting you you'd blame yourself because "muh personal responsibility"

>thinks a nanny state is in any way British

I agree, we are too much of a nanny state. However I'll take that over being America Lite like you and Cameron wants the country to be.

>implying I like Corbyn

I voted UKIP last year and I will again in 2020. Both of the main parties are shit-tier.
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>>70521668

I think it'll be stay. I think the media fear campaign will hit hard soon. I also think 99% of SNP voters will vote stay, just to spite anybody south of the border.
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>>70529602
>it is entirely logical to despise both Corbyn and Cameron because they are both fucking useless

This.
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>>70528746
The point of the NHS is that you don't get credits, you get the care you need relative to what's wrong with you. Get a cold, get some medicine, get cancer, get treatment.

I'm happy to pay slightly more into the national pot so that people with life threatening conditions can get treated without going through the process of trying to convince a private company to release money to pay for it and they try their hardest to find any minor little contractual reason not to pay out.

I haven't needed the hospital in a long time but when I was a teenager I went there a lot with broken bones from skating and just generally being a kid. My family was poor as fuck and probably would be life in debt if we didn't have the NHS.

Now I work and contribute back and I'm happy to keep paying even if I don't need to use the hospital ever again.
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>>70529602

If Corbyn got in id fucking welcome a miltary coup, and thats some fucking retarded thinking right there.
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>>70519621
I stand with you.
And to those of you who are acting morally superior to Dave ask yourself have you ever avoided taxes?
Paid the painter and decorator in cash?
Accepted a cash payment for work?
Brought duty free?
Under declared if you're self employed?
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>>70529777
I agree with you, but what do you think of them treating illnesses caused explicitly by personal choices?

Personally I think that instead of implementing a whole new system we should make it so that over the age of 18 (since kids are idiots, but they're still kids) if your illness is your own fault you must pay a certain high percentage of your healthcare outside of taxes.

It would save the NHS so much money as they still treat Type 2 Diabetes and smoking-caused Lung Cancer, but they don't have to fork out masses of their own cash to do so.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2dNEQiHUUo

Ignoring the bullshit at the end, I like this video.
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>the official leave campaign will be decided this week
whos is going to be then lads
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>>70529777
Without the safety net of an NHS maybe you wouldn't have taken up such dangerous and stupid hobbies.

The general result of getting cancer under the NHS is 'get cancer, die in a pile of your own shit in a poorly maintained hospital' btw, not 'get cancer, get treatment'
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>>70529605

>Nigger what? I was saying that instead of blaming the person shooting you you'd blame yourself because "muh personal responsibility"
It's more like driving without car insurance.

>being America Lite like Cameron wants the country to be
wew
Cameron says and does the same things mad men like Ceausescu said and did. Hardly "America Lite"
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>>70530021
It's funny because two years ago they told people to vote for them because school children would want you too. Now they are mocking their opponents for bahving like school children.

Inconsistent branding!
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>>70530078
>driving without car insurance

Is illegal and a stupid decision. However, getting cancer whilst never being able to afford health insurance isn't.

And how is privatizing everything, removing any semblance of British culture and giving most of our property and investment to the global rich not American? Isn't that exactly why people are voting for Trump, because they're sick of America being that way?
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>>70529980
Not an option, whether someone's illness is there own fault is a massive grey area beyond some obvious ones (lung cancer from smoking etc). It also doesn't take into account things that are eventually found to be damaging that where once thought safe. The money you save will be spent investigating the cause of peoples illnesses.

Although I do agree with you in principle. The NHS spends ridiculous amounts of money treating drunk people at the weekend. These people should be given a small bill for pumping their stomach or whatever needs doing to them. Even £30 a visit will add up to hundreds of millions a year easily just from drunks.
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>>70517753
>>70530021
JUST
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>>70529777

I dont disagree ive said it dozens of times on brit/pol/... the reality of the situation is what do we do if the system is unsustainable. I know the government talks a lot of shit but nobody seems to consider the possibility they are telling the truth about the shambles the NHS is in.

At minimum the NHS needs some serious efficiency based cuts. We have a serious problem with the welfare state, pensions and the NHS are such a massive burden.

Ive said before, maybe we cut parts of the military and replace it with a subsidized militia like the swiss that could be a short term fix for a generation or so to plug the funds deficit, but what the hell do we do with an aging population?

Maybe we could cut longevity rules on patents for medications down to about a decade, meaning cheaper medications...
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>>70530277
>never being able to afford health insurance isn't.
>you couldn't pay £15/month if you removed your NHS contributions

>And how is privatizing everything, removing any semblance of British culture
British culture has only been state ownership for the past few decades.
There's nothing British about the government owning things.
You're also acting as if the government doesn't contract out big globalist companies to do things for them.
The government doesn't even use British steel in it's projects.
You're confusing the current state of affairs for British culture and private enterprise as globalism.
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>>70530026
Maybe people shouldn't take up carpentry either, pretty dangerous. And what about athletes, gotta stop kids getting into sports or they might injure themselves.

The NHS enables people to take calculated risks in many careers, not just extreme sports. People injure themselves all the time in any industry, the NHS means that one injury doesn't figuratively kill them. And the industry they work in is healthier as a result of their valued staff being taken tare of.
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>>70519621

>peter_hitchens.jpg
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>>70530659
Or it would force employers to give their carpenters health insurance as part of their contract.
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>>70528160
>chipsinpitta chilisauceboss hairy faggot

Fkn lel Can I get a fork with that m8.
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>>70530452
Well Type 2 diabetes, one of the NHS's biggest money sinks is entirely caused by eating too much sugary and fatty shit. Same with lung cancer, if someone can prove they either never or very rarely bought cigarettes or worked/lived somewhere around smoke then they'd be off the hook.

I'm not saying it should be all, just a negative consequence for being inconsiderate of yourself and others. The usage of plastic bags have dropped massively since a tiny 5p charge was introduced, if a 75% care charge was introduced for being a stupid drunken shit on a Friday night then the knock-on effects would be huge.

>>70530656
The NHS has been around since 1946 and right now is as British a tradition as Toad in the Hole. If Britain had always been the "personal responsibility" Utopia America is then the American constitution would never have been made.

And I'm agreeing with you, globalism isn't American or British. That's why Trump is so popular. Cameron just wants to be Thatcher 2.0 but is too late because the "globalise everything" horse has already been beaten to death in the America he so wants to copy.
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>>70530026

I agree to an extent. Some retarded 17 year old who burns his fucking hand half off playing with fireworks should get some basic fucking treatment. Not thousands in plastic surgery and grafts..

These vapid cunts whom get breast surgery on the NHS and gastric bands are a fucking disgrace
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>>70530856
And then you're back at the situation where the insurer does everything in their power to stop paying money out to you when you need something done. This conflict of interest between insurer and client is unavoidable.
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Reminder that the funds used to spread this 'leak', were provided by Soros, Rockafella, Goldman Sachs, Ford etc.

If you don't follow the plan, if you piss people off, then the dirt they have on you gets released.

They are likely pissed at the referendum.
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>>70530965
>Cameron just wants to be Thatcher
No he doesn't.
What evidence do you have of this exactly? This reads like something you'd see on a Corbyn fan page. Do you also believe that Tony Blair was right wing?

>The NHS has been around since 1946 and right now is as British a tradition as Toad in the Hole. If Britain had always been the "personal responsibility" Utopia America is then the American constitution would never have been made.
If you say so, in a few decades will you say that islam is a British tradition?

>the American constitution
The American constitution was essentially copied word for word from British law at the time.
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>>70517753
So has this whole Panama thing been that high ranking politicians are using loopholes to avoid paying some taxes?

Or is there more to it?
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>>70531055
>And then you're back at the situation where the insurer does everything in their power to stop paying money out to you when you need something done.

If you've signed a contract with them they can't back out of it.
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>>70531382
>If you've signed a contract with them they can't back out of it.

That's not how life works anon
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>>70531466
Then you can sue them.
These contracts aren't as ridiculous as government legislation which is riddled with loopholes. A contract is very simple in the eyes of the law.
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>>70531262
>What evidence do you have of this exactly?

How about the evidence you gave, British Steel. Cameron wants to desperately to be seen as a PM who "saved" the country by privatizing it. Steel, the NHS and the like are him and Osborne's Mining sector.

>muh Islam and Corbyn strawman

Why are you comparing the NHS to Islam? And if you click my ID and read my other posts you'd know I hate Corbyn as much as the next Tory. Pro-NHS doesn't mean Pro-Labour.

>The American constitution was essentially copied word for word from British law at the time.

Huh, I didn't know that. But even then, Britain has never been as non-collectivist as America and it never will. Saying the NHS is not British is pissing on the efforts of post-WW2 Britain to reward the people who fought for Britain itself. It's not a coincidence that the NHS was founded in 1946.
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>>70531382
contracts include lots of back-out clauses

on one hand you can say don't sign it then, but if that's the status quo then you're just fucked

how many people can afford to take an insurance company to court
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>>70531593
To take car insurance as an example, there are tons and tons of things built into the contract that means the insurer can get out of paying.
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Shopping in a socialist paradise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stLwgmbFX0I
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>>70531959
It's never been tried PROPERLY :^)
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>>70531648
British steel is already private, what are you talking about?

>Why are you comparing the NHS to Islam?
You said that the NHS is British because it has been here a long time. Will Islam be British once it's been here for a long time?

>Huh, I didn't know that. But even then, Britain has never been as non-collectivist as America and it never will
Yes it has.

Compare how the British government functioned before and after WWII.

>It's not a coincidence that the NHS was founded in 1946.
Labour had talked about a plan to install socialism in the UK, during the 40s, without requiring the revolution within 30 non-consecutive years in office. That's why it was founded then and has been used as a battering ram for more and more big government. Parts of this group left and formed the Independent Labour Party, others stayed in the Labour party.
Even the "social democracy" they currently stand for is just a rebranding of Eurocommunism.
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hahaha you brits are blind. If you leave the EU you will lose 900000 jobs and get more muslims immigrants because you'll deport the europeans

In 5 years time brits will be crawling to rejoin the eu
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I'M COMING FOR YOU FARAGE
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>>70531959
Primark must be run by socialists too
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>>70531959

>Muh price controls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdqQzKe6p5Y
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>>70532127
Sven, Jamal can't prep himself.
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>>70530659
Carpentry and real sports have positive benefits. Your skateboarding is a waste of everybody's time and should not be subsidised by the taxpayer. In fact it is morally irresponsible for the NHS to treat you since it retards natural selection.
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>>70532190
meet me outside m8
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>>70531923
>>70531780

These things are things that are currently illegal/regulated against anyway.
So you can either do the job and risk doing something stupid and not get fired or do it and get fired.
In the cases where there are terrible clauses, people will just stop using them.
The insurance companies wanting to pay less ends up putting pressure on the healthcare provider to increase the quality and reduce the cost.

>how many people can afford to take an insurance company to court
There are plenty of groups that will take on cases for a fraction of the award.
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>>70532295
Technically isnt skateboarding a combination of carpentry and sport.

lel

>muh ABEC 7s
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>>70532295
>goddamn kids with their skateboards on the streets
lel, it was rollerblades but that's besides the point
How do you determine which sports have or don't have "positive benefits"? I'm sure RedBull and others create positive economic benefits from extreme sports.

Are you actually arguing for certain sports to be "state-approved" kek
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>>70530659
>gotta stop kids getting into sports or they might injure themselves
this so much this
tired of listening to people going on about drugs and boozing being bad for you and then being all 'LOL SPORTS ARE AWESOME YOLO' and then they break a fucking leg like that's so fucking healthy
I'll die of heart disease and you ride your bike off a fucking cliff like a spastic and we're all happy
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>>70517753
Lads Gorgon's doing an AMA https://www.reddit.com/r/farshnukeofficial/comments/4cywg2/ask_me_anything/
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>>70532720
Can you explain to me the benefits of drinking yourself to sleep every night? Because I can explain the benefits of doing sport, and the thing is in sport a horrible injury isn't guaranteed. It is if you're an alcoholic druggie.
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>>70532714
>Are you actually arguing for certain sports to be "state-approved" kek
I'm arguing for the NHS to treat people who get injured in self-improving sports like sprinting or various team sports, but not to treat retards on rollerblades or hippies smoking cannabis and kicking around hacky sacks.
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>>70533053
How is Rollerblading and Skateboarding not beneficial in itself? You sound like you hate Rollerbladers and Skateboarders, not the acts themselves.
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>>70532866
I explained myself very clearly if you can't get it and would prefer to strawman then maybe you've whacked your head too hard playing some shit sport, probably while you were wearing fucking brightly coloured polyester shorts
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>>70519621

>Publicly call out others as moray repugnant for using legal tax evasion
>Get caught doing the same thing
>Dude. Everything I do is legal, its a private matter. What's the problem lmao.

Also not everyone has the income to pay (((PwC))) and the the likes to take their income abroad. HMRC spends most of it's time harassing and locking up cash in hand plumbers while giving illegal tax fraudsters amnesty after amnesty
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>>70532830

Jesus christ is that blob still alive.
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>>70533355
just trying to understand you correctly, you're anti-sport??

>>70533053
and of course the government will get to decide which sports are "self-improving", I have no idea how you imagine this would work
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>>70533355
You haven't explained anything, anon. You've just showed yourself to get triggered by Skateboarders and Roller Cyclists.
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>>70521668
>establishment control the media and narrative
>muh consiquences if we leave
>muh *invisible* gains if we don't
>rigged vote

How do you think it's going to play out.
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>>70532190
UKIP! [screams of laughter] NIGEL BLOODY FARAGE!
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>>70533361
While I don't give a fuck about the avoiding tax (if there was a legal way for me to pay no tax, I'd do it), his position makes him look retarded.

We all know the Tories are money sucking cunts, that's partly why people vote for them, they know what their getting. They should stick to this position instead of pretending to care about the common pleb, because they get called out on it so easily.
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>>70533407
Yes he's alive and masturbating to his made up universe.
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>>70519621
>current laws
>write to your MP if you want to change the laws
Anon the point is that Cameron is in charge of the legislative and executive bodies of government. He has more power over the law than anyone else. Part of this outrage is that he has actually avoided clamping down on these laws, clearly in the interests of himself and his friends.

When you say 'change the laws' we're talking about a man who has resisted just that and then lied about his intentions.
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>>70533599
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>>70533361

Just proof to me the current taxation system is bullshit...

Seems to me they should abolish income tax and put VAT up in acordance.. That way nobody can avoid tax if you spend money. Savers are rewarded also.

Probably result in smuggling, but we are an island, should be easier to stop that.

Makes it impossible to buy a car or a house etc without paying the tax due, its also pretty hard to smuggle a car into the country without the import/vat being covered.

Also if fred wants to spend all his hard earned money on fast food and cigs, the 35% VAT or whatever covers the insurance premium on his shitty life choices.

Where as dave who earns the same is richer as he is frugal and doesnt spend his money on crap till he needs too.
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>>70527432
The NHS has ruined this country
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>>70533555

Probably quit before he could ollie, or a skater stole his slighty alt qt first girlfriend.
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>>70534065
How?
>muh fat people, drinkers and smokers
Yeah, because America doesn't have a problem with any of those as well.
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>>70534038

>Nigels face when lizzys nudes finally got released in the panama papers.
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>>70533599
[AUDIENCE SHITS THEMSELVES VIOLENTLY, UNABLE TO CONTAIN ANY BODILY FLUIDS AS THEIR SPHINCTERS VIBRATE RAPIDLY FROM THE INTENSITY OF THEIR LAUGHTER]
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>>70534065
No Labour did
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>>70534065

Its not the NHS imo, but the expectation it should be there to look after every whim a person has.
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>>70534396
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>>70534396

I was so disappointed years ago when i saw Frankie Boyle in that Angry Taxi drivers youtube videos and found out he was a massive SJW faggot.
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>>70534830

Imagine being cucked by Russell Howard and Russell Brand..

Sounds like something out of Hellraiser.
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Filthy Anglos.
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>>70534873
Frankie Boyle has literally described himself as being left of Chomsky before
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>>70534873
He's Scottish. What else would he be?
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>>70535127
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>>70535127

Ahaha, he is here lads, kek.
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HOLY SHIT LADS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iXAtoVQKow

FARAGE NAMED THE ETERNAL SCOT
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>>70527432
>>70527183
this

>>70526576
It used to be socialist. Thatcher, Major and Cameron (and to some extent Blair and Brown) have all pushed us further to neo-liberal bullshit by selling off all of our national resources. Now we have expensive trains, expensive houses, and expensive energy.

Cameron's role in this is generally more subtle. He's selling off our assets like the Royal Mail and parts of the NHS to private companies under the guise of somehow reducing the deficit, despite them only being short-term cash grabs for the government. But his more subtle role is in deliberately fucking up things like the police and the NHS to ease people into greater privatisation of the two things that no Briton in their right mind thinks should be privatised. That way G4S (the husband of the current Home Secretary is a major shareholder) can pick up more private security gigs (the government has already given them a load of major contracts despite them fucking up the Olympics massively) and as the NHS waiting times get bigger and bigger due to less funding and retarded policies from Jeremy Hunt (who has in the past written on his desire to scrap the NHS and was given the job of Health Secretary as a result) more and more people will shift to private healthcare.

It's like living in fucking Brazil at the moment
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>>70535127
Stay mad Turkroach, you'll be dead soon
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Anyone else noticed all the chippys being taken over by pakis? My constituency is 98.9% white and still they own probably more than half the chippys around here. They are all shit as fuck coincidentally
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Say it with me;
PM Boris Johnson
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>>70535476
ANGLOS, NOT EVEN ONCE.
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>>70535127
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>>70535127
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>>70535767
Your not fooling anyone mehmet
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>>70535601
On your point about trains, more and more people are using them to the point of capacity, it's only natural that prices are going to rise.

Not to mention that trains now are infinitely more reliable than they were when it was publicly owned
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>>70536032
I bet you have BROWN eyes filthy ANGLO blood scum you
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>>70536097
>trains now are infinitely more reliable

Have you ever used a train on a daily basis?
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>>70536097
>trains are infinitely more reliable

Ha, anon. Nice joke.
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>>70536246
I bet you have brown skin
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>>70535476
I do wonder why he thinks portraying us as bad guys is somehow an insult.

It's good, to be bad.
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>>70536246
No blue,

How is the monobrow getting on?
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>>70536358
No it's white with blue eyes like any aryan, but you wouldn't know what blue eyes are ANGLO
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>>70536490
You can't fool me Anglo, Blue eyes are BROWN eyes in newspeak
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>>70536741
I think you need to stop posting Ahmed
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>>70537106
Yes start calling me names Anglo. The Anglo uses this method when his ture nature is found out.
Once again Aryans have won the battle in the eternal struggle between him and the filthy ANGLO.
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>>70537572
>Turkey
>Aryan
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>>70536097
>more and more people are using them
>prices are going to rise
Are you suggesting that the only reason why trains are becoming more expensive is the higher demand for them? Because that would literally be an argument for nationalisation.

>Private rail
>Demand increases, private company is able to charge more despite costs for them being roughly the same

>National rail
>Demand increases. More people are paying in, and since the main goal is provision of service over profits, they can reinvest this money into extra trains or a reduction of fees.
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>>70537612
The Turks may not be Aryan on a genetic level but they are nontheless allies in the long battle between the peaceful, glorious Aryans and the filthy, dirty ANGLOS.
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>>70537919
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>>70537572
PURE ARYAN BLOOD
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Aren't these generals propagated by cripplechan posters?
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>>70537919

> mfw the turk thinks he's not subhuman
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>>70538015
Ah very well, of course the bastard of an ANGLO would come to save his master. Go away Anglo, you have no power here on this Aryan land.
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>>70523479
the immorality of eating a sandwich like a nonce lol
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>>70537919
Holy fuck screenshotted
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>>70534063

The real problem lies in HMRC. It is underfunded, but the biggest problem is the revolving door of industry kikes who run it. High level accountants from the city come in and "advice" the government on tax law, then within 10 years they are back at their firms advising their clients on how to dodge the laws they themselves wrote.

High tax, low tax. Complex or simple. It doesn't matter if the above is still happening.
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>>70538136
>he wasn't around for the brit/pol/ QT generals
>he wasn't around for the golden age of brit/pol/ from the run up to the EU election to Carswell's defection
>he wasn't on brit/pol/ whilst moot shat up /pol/ and we stood firm against it all
>he wasn't on brit/pol/ before the GE last year
I bet you don't even know who South Wales or Emokiddeh are
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>>70538160
Only hate fuels the ANGLO and as such he must ridicule his opponent. Little does he know that his enemy is an heroic BLUE eyed Aryan.
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>>70517753
Literally nothing wrong with what Cameron did.

Cameron is a globalist cunt, avoiding tax is probably the most morally praise worthy thing he's done in his life.
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>>70538705
this desu
i don't give a fuck about tax evasion when our governments are using our own money to wipe us out.
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Have any of you lads joined based National Action yet?

>learn martial arts
>go on team exercises
>fight lefties
>trigger the liberal newspapers
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>>70538552
Stay mad you subhuman
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>>70538832
>Have any of you lads joined based National Action yet?

Nah, I still have hopes of one day being able to hold a middle class job. No chance of that if my power level ever leaves my house.
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>>70526212
Tfw will only ever pay back £360 a month

literally pointless
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>>70538552
Again the the blue eyes Burak?
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>>70538977

How big is your fuckin nose mate?
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>>70539145
It's average, just funny angle
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>>70526493
You fuckers talking about chips has made me wanna stop reading this thread and get some chips, I only just started reading it you dicks.
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>>70539308
have a nige
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>>70538508
I was just kidding famalam, ginnie is best girl :^}
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>>70539137
Stay mad ANGLO, for you are alone in this battle.
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>Roy "Chubby" Brown, your spiritual king.
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>>70517753
Why do brits hate Cameron so much? He seems actually like he cares about his country , sure he might fuck up sometimes but he seems like he's trying to do the best he can for the people
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>>70539781
Lefty cucks hate him because he isnt full cuck and everyone unquestionably listens to them, and then those actually on the right hate him for being slightly cucked
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>>70539781
Remember the guy you killed on Christmas day all those years ago.
He says and does the same things as that man.

.. At least we don't have to buy his wife's horticulture books.
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>>70539858
>slightly cucked
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>>70539781
>he seems like he's trying to do the best he can for the people
>europhile

Pick one
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>>70539858
>slightly cucked

Cameron is full globalist, he's Tony Blair tier.
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>>70539972
Fair
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>>70529315

>We'll be kicked out of Eurovision

Mate Israel is in Eurovision and it's not even in fucking Europe
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So what have you guys been up to since brit/pol/ died after /pol/ harbour?

Who am I kidding? Most of you came here after flags and IDs were introduced.

I still haven't found a new internet home I feel comfy in, I just wish /pol/ would go back to normal.
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>>70539858
>>70539929
>>70539989
I wish we had politicians like you guys do, they actually seem to try and do what they think is best for the UK, meamwhile our political class only thinks about how they can get into power to line their pockets at the cost of the people
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>>70540333
>he takes every post on /pol/ seriously
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>>70539781
>actually cares about this country

If "selling off everything possible to make him and his mates a little extra cash from foreign investors" is caring for the country then kicking a dog is caring for animal rights.

>>70540393
>how they can get into power to line their pockets at the cost of the people

That's exactly what Cameron and his buddies are doing. They don't give a shit about the plebs and proles, they just say they do to get votes.
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>>70540348
I prefer IDs and flags. Although the chances of people going off topic and spouting such hilarities as...

>POO IN LOO
>A FUCKING LEAF
>BEADY

... has increased, it's far easier to spot shills and spastics now.
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>>70517753
This is Russell "Let all the refugees in" Brand's house.

Insanity.
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>>70540393

Kek, that's some quality shit posting gypsy.
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>>70540539
But i have never heard of large corruption scandals in the UK, here having a high class politician arrested is a weekly event
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>>70540393
What the fuck have you been smokin the Tory part is directly selling off the NHS for personal profit
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>>70540602
>I prefer IDs and flags.
Of course you do, it's all you've known.
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>>70538136
Well seeing as brit/pol/ existed before cripplechan was a thing, no.
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Give it an upboat, lads.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/4e61we/uk_equalities_chief_who_popularised_the_term/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/4e61we/uk_equalities_chief_who_popularised_the_term/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/4e61we/uk_equalities_chief_who_popularised_the_term/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/4e61we/uk_equalities_chief_who_popularised_the_term/
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>>70540749
That's because our politicians are better than yours at hiding/obfuscating it. They degrade and diminish public services with needless cuts and restrictions until privatization seems like the only option, then sell them off to whatever crappy company they or their friends/spouses have shares in.
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Besides based Norn Iron, reminder to thank the lord you aren't Irish.
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>>70541443
Reminder that Norn Iron is more cucked than Scotland.
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>>70521668

No. It's barely even a fantastical possibility. As in, even the leave people can't picture how things would look if we left.

People in this thread that live in a contrarian echo chamber will tell you it's a 50/50 chance, but reality doesn't echo this. The bookies at the moments have such good odds of us staying you'd be a drooling retard not to place a bet to leave if you really thought it was 50/50.

Basically every single relevant political party is against leaving. Both right and left. The media couldn't be any more against leaving. A whole bunch of businesses in the UK have come out and said "are you out of your fucking minds?"

Think about this. Last year at about this time /pol/ was sure Farage would be in parliament with 10 or so politicians behind him. They actually ended up losing one of the seats they already had.

Whether or not leaving is a good idea you have to be slightly nuts to consider voting to leave at the moment unless you have a psychotic level of conviction and you've studied the situation properly for yourself (nobody has).
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>>70541443
>Family names in 3/4 grandparents are Irish.
Ireland is British anyway.

>>70541721
Elaborate, please.
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>>70541721
>97% white
>cucked

It's the scots that want to lift up their kilts and take in paki cock.
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>>70541721
Doubt that mate
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>>70541886
Who's voting in the Scottish elections? i'll be voting

>Constituency: Tory
>Regional: UKIP
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>>70542255
>Who's voting in the Scottish elections?
Finland
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>>70541840
>>70541886
That'll explain why the SNP popularity has fallen since the migrant crisis. The only one taking Abduls cock around here is you.

>>70542255
Pretty much this.
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>>70542255
Likely that.
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