Should we euthanize ridiculously obese people?
But who would vote for Trump?
>>70514321
I'm sure his mob ties would ensure they still get a vote.
>>70514321
>marmite
>>70514321
Inbred gym junkees.
>>70514281
Yes
>>70514321
kek, nice
>>70514281
>implying those sacks of fat and gluttony are people
>>70514281
We should have a society with fit people.
>>70514321
I think you mean Bern and Hill. Fucking Aussies, seriously.
But bu I'm obese
>>70514321
pfff he does it again
They should be allowed to live but they should be looked upon pole the general public looks down at smokers. They are treated like shit while all the internet SJW's are calling fats beautiful. They should be looked down upon to encourage them to take care of their body instead of lying to their face that they are beautiful.
We should definitely euthanize these overgrown monsters
If you are too fat to lose weight through exorcise, you should be put to death.
>>70515399
Look at our hardcore KKK members here, I'm sure when he is not on his computer outside with real people he is this tough right ? Fuck off
We should lock them in rooms and tell them they can have food when they aren't fat.
Water, of course, will be provided.
>>70515535
Go and get some dog meat, alpine savage
Have you even seen an elderly obese person?
Thats right nature takes care of that.
>>70515648
Are you kidding me? I can't believe you would even say that. What a fucking healthist piece of shit, I can't even right now.
If they can't walk due to their weight, put them down.
>>70514281
They should just limit scooters to people with no legs or issues not caused by not moving enough. Lazyness is the problem 99/100 times with those fat fucks
>>70515648
>Have you even seen an elderly obese person?
Yes I worked with one
He had a heart attack on his way home from work one day and died
My parents were obese (think 300+ lb's). So surprise surprise, by the time I was 23, I weighed around 320~ lbs, because I pretty much followed their diet, and they fed me lies about genetics.
When I moved out on my own, weight started coming off and I realized that they're just lazy fucks who enjoy eating butter with all their vegetables.
Currently at 26 I'm at 240 LB's, which isn't good, but it's fucking hard to lose all your old habits, and gain portion control (a big one) when you've never been healthy in your entire life. I'm still losing weight though, and hope I'm normal by the time I'm 28-29, even if I have to cut extra skin off.
My parents are on disability now, too, because they can barely move.
Child services should remove children from fat people's houses.
>>70515523
actually you can't lose weight with exercise, you first have to stop eating, then exercise to tone your body and keep fit
Americans are a disgusting peoples.
>>70514281
in this capitalist world, money is the answer for everything: they should be taxed exorbitantly.
>>70517126
>Currently at 26 I'm at 240 LB's
>>70518911
At least I'm improving instead of turning into a trans-scooter.
Probably
There is literally no excuse why they can't lose weight. They should have two years to have a normal weight BMI (or low percent body fat ) or they get executed.
The problem will be finding ovens big enough to burn some of these fat fucks
>>70514281
THIN PRIVILEGE IS... NOT GETTING STUCK IN DOORWAYS
No, but I shouldn't have to pay for their healthcare.
>>70514281
Not necessary. Tax brackets based on body fat percentage may suffice, depending on the amount.
>recently go to Disneyland
>sea of fat people on mobile scooters
>girl no more than 18 is on a scooter and is at least 500lbs
>see an old man walking with a cane in the simmering sun
>family of scooter planets drive be drinking coke
This planet is doomed
>
>>70517268
no
you're stupid
>>70517126
>who enjoy eating butter with all their vegetables.
Butter and veggies is the best way to lose weight. It's the sugars and bread that makes you obese. (Doubly so because sweets don't register as a meal psychologically. There's more energy in a can of soda than in five pounds of meat, yet people will drink several cans of soda one after the other like it's water.)
>>70521804
At least they make the scooters get in line now. They used to skip to the front every time.
>>70521457
>mfw I thought that was an obese tranny -- RARE FIND! -- no wait its a strap-on and her fat hid the strap.
No. We should prevent them from becoming like that. How? With education and mandatory medical treatment. America has public health issue that should be dealt with taxpayer's money. I know you really like the idea of freedom and freedom to grow as fat as your stomach allows it but being a fatass nation has lot of disadvantages you niggers.
>>70517126
You can do it fampai! Get MyFitnessPal and count calories, read the fit sticky, and you can be a normal BMI in a year. Your going to make it.
They'll die off in the next Great War
>>70515726
Calm down and breath down a burger.
They are already killing themselves, just dont foot the bill for it.
>>70522048
Sadly under our system it gets dealt with using taxpayer money anyways.. fuckers get disability and food stamps etc and free healthcare but nobody addresses their core problem, only enables the problem.
>>70521940
Butter is calorically dense and not a good idea when losing weight. Especially whenAmericans use a whole stick of it just to cook something in a pan
Yes, they can be used as firewood
>>70514321
lol
>>70521804
why did you not take a fucking picture or video of this fucker you have let us down.
>>70521614
>BMI
Kill yourself.
>>70521765
>Tax for a problem created by taxes paying for corn subsidies
Kill yourself.
>>70517268
Losing weight is not the point of exercise.
Shedding inter-organ fat.
Lowering muscular insulin resistance.
Exercise is extremely important. But its not for losing weight.
If you actually care about learning the fuck WHY watch these, in order:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceFyF9px20Y
Pic related
TLDR:
Corn subsidies --> HFCS-60 half the cost of real sugar
Sugar or HFCS-60 (both evil) --> Leptin blocking
Leptin blocking --> EAT EAT EAT EAT EAT
BMI is shit. Scales are shit too. Your body weight is 4 components:
-Skeleton (good)
-Muscle (good)
-Outer fat (actually good)
-Inter organ fat (VERY BAD)
You're weighing all 4 at once.
QUIT BEING SO STUPID ABOUT THIS ISSUE /POL/
FUCK FAT ACCEPTANCE!
ALSO FUCK BIOCHEMICAL IGNORANCE!
>>70514281
>>70522239
>Butter is calorically dense and not a good idea when losing weight. Especially whenAmericans use a whole stick of it just to cook something in a pan
Calories don't cause obesity, carbohyrates do.
For example, vodka is more calorically dense than cola. Have you ever seen an obese alcoholic? That simply never happens since there's no sugar in vodka.
>>70522298
Corn subsidies? We don't have those, don't mind me.
>>70522298
I found your post informative thanks for going through the trouble keep fighting the good fight kind sir.
>>70522204
So in the long run wouldn't it be cheaper to prevent the fuckers from growing fat? Even if they become useless pieces of shit they could still get a job as a cashier at wallmart and produce GDP also they would drain less money in the long run.
>>70522374
>Calories don't cause obesity, carbohyrates do.
Holy fuck you're retarded.
>>70514321
Goddamn. Someone do something.
>>70522298
Reading your post made me think of a hysterical woman.
>>70522079
I don't bother with /fit/, but I do use livestrong myplate to track calories. Shit helps a ton.
I pretty much eat baked salmon twice a week (only a bit of seasoning, no sauces) with veggies, and some form of (non-fried) chicken twice a week as well. usually I'll have edamame , and baked chicken with a poointheloo sauce (watered down to less sodium).
I live with my GF though, so on Sundays she usually orders Chinese food.
People who think being fat are either being lied to (Like I was since birth), or mentally ill. I feel so much better after I've lost so much weight, but I still have more to go.
Those "fat acceptance" fucks know it, too. I used to be tired from climbing one floor of stairs, I can only imagine how hard it is for those 600~ lb whales.
>>70522469
Yeah but our system isn't proactive the way it is designed. Its after they fuck themselves up the government starts enabling them to keep riding down the same path.
Which is why we should have a universal healthcare system that forces people to go to fat prison.
>>70522298
>being fat
>being this triggered about loosing weight
pick both
>>70522677
isn't edamame soy and doesn't soy contain stuff that mimics estrogen?
>>70522677
Also, fat people tend to drink soda all the fucking time. My parents drink a 2 liter bottle of pepsi every 2 days.
The last time I had any sugary drink was probably about 4 months ago.
>>70522374
>Calories don't cause obesity
>>70522758
Yeah, but it doesn't really matter unless you have a ton of it from what I understand.
>>70522785
Did you quit the soda yet?
>>70522298
Is the whole "heavy skeleton" true?
I'm only 172cm, I'm skinny as fuck but I weight 72kg (~160lb I think), some fags on /fit/ are taller, lighter and look way bigger than me. Why?
Fat shaming thread?
>>70514281
dat log of a woman. Who designed that door
>>70522785
>2 liter bottle of pepsi every 2 days
Uhh thats nothing...
oh sheeeeeeeiiii
>>70522870
Yep. The last time I had it was around 4 months ago (That goes for pretty much every sugary drink).
I pretty much just have water, and occasionally wine if I'm going out with my GF for an anniversary or something.
>>70514321
>>70522871
>heavy skeleton
is that the new "i'm big boned!"
now i'm curious because i weigh more than i should and have never broken a bone.
>>70522959
I'm real into mineral water now.. Has that bite but without the heaviness, very clean and light.
> people not realizing these people on they electric scooters are the knights of our time
>>70522368
my jaw dropped when brush disparaged in flab
>>70522516
Yes, keep denying reality because sugary shit is addictive.
Protip: 'calories' is just the measure of how well something burns. Benzene has a huge caloric value, but it's toxic to humans. You can't get fat by huffing gas.
Put simply, carbohydrates is what your body uses as fuel. It's also what is converted to fat and stored in fat tissue if there's an excess of energy.
(Proteins are building materials and lipids are mostly useless. The body can convert lipids to energy with a few extra steps, but will prefer carbs since carbs are the natural fuel source.)
Lower the income tax, increase the sales tax.
Fat Fucks who eat a lot will pay more taxes for the hospital bill sand general healthcare bills they leave on society.
>>70523019
I'm almost certain that individual variation in bone density or total bone mass doesn't contribute to an anomaly more than a few percent tops, since the dry bone mass of your body is something like 20% of your total mass at most.
>>70522790
Benzene is more caloric than sugar. 'Calories' don't mean shit since your body only metabolizes very specific compounds.
>>70522298
BMI works great, unless you're absolutely ripped.
Almost always when BMI fails, it's towards the other end - people who are fat, but BMI doesn't show it.
>>70517126
You should do ads for a sandwich company and fuck kids
>>70514281
Yes
>>70523249
I'm not a Jew so I don't have that opportunity
https://www.google.com/#q=jared+fogel+jewish
>It's a coincidence
>>70522677
>I live with my GF though
Cuck detected. Don't you have a bull to prep right now? Why are you posting your shitty opinions on 4chan while the bull remains unprepped?
>>70522368
>that moment when she starts fucking her leg with a toilet brush
Christ.
>>70522368
>her leg nearly ate the brush
Mother of God...
>>70514281
If I ever couldn't fit through a doorway because I'm too fat I would kill myself there and then with whatever is at hand.
>>70523140
>implying all carbs are sugar
>Implying you can't get fat by chugging vegetable oil all day
Fuck off
>>70523340
Sorry Mohammad, I'm not a cuck. GF hates minorities/voted for Trump. I even took time off from work so we could watch the Zimmerman trial together.
>>70522368
>dat brush
wtf
>>70522401
That's exactly why your country is skinny compared to the EU.
>>70522600
I am hysterical. Fructose is literally the cancer that's killing my country! My world even!
Watch the videos linked in my post.
>1967 Clinton Corn Processing Company of Clinton, Iowa obtained an exclusive license to a manufacture glucose isomerase derived from Streptomyces bacteria, and began shipping an early version of HCFS in February 1967.
Literally where the problem started. Look at photos of people from the 1960s and 1970s before it was fucking everywhere. The people were much much skinnier.
And the USA exports this problem with it's cheap corn, to other countries who have thier own HFCS plants. HFCS is no more evil than sugar, but the corn makes it super cheap.
And what do the food Jews do? PUT IT IN EVERYTHING! OY VEY!
Our genetics sure as fuck haven't changed that much in just 50 years. But our food supply sure has.
>>70522785
Sodapop is fucking evil, because of the aforementioned Leptin blocking.
They did a study:
Kids preloaded with soda -> sent to get food
Kids given nothing -> sent to get food
The kids that drank soda ate MORE. Shouldn't they have eaten less because they had already consumed calories? Leptin blocking leads you into the trap of metapolic syndrome.
>>70522742
>being a leaf
I want people to be healthy. The only way to do that is to educate.
>>70523228
BMI wasn't even good at what it was fucking designed for in the first place. There are much much better measurements.
>>70514321
ayy
>>70518911
>someone making improvements
>I KNOW, LETS POST A DISGUSTED REACTION IMAGE!
I thought Americans were all about personal responsibility. Why do you hate someone for taking responsibility for their own personal matters?
>>70523534
>I'm not a cuck because le "GF" fed me lies I believe as a true cuck warrior
Whatever makes you feel better about yourself James. Deep down you know she's getting getting her weekly dose of bbc and as much as you are in denial it doesn't matter.
>>70522374
>calories don't cause obesity
Ivan wot
>>70514281
yes they made themselves this way through lack of self control.
>>70523766
>He doesn't realize the "White women love BBC!" is literally a jewish meme
https://www.quora.com/Interracial-Dating-and-Relationships-Do-some-white-women-exhibit-a-strong-dislike-towards-men-of-other-races
Or he's just frustrated about Syrians pillaging his neighborhood.
>>70521614
you need yuge ovens m8
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2154897/Dead-obese-woman-body-fat-set-building-cremation.html
>>70523831
>Win a date with cheerleaders
>go out in a stained and torn T-shirt
America why?
>>70524004
Spoken like a true cuck.
Thanks for proving me right. James McCuckerson.
>>70523771
>>70522790
>>70522516
The first law of thermodynamics works great in simple systems.
But the human body is complex. If it was as simple as all the calories you don't use become fat then how come feces is flammable?
Not everything you eat is absorbed. How your body processes it is everything.
You could eat 4000-5000 calories a day on a very very high fiber diet and never get fat. Which is precisely the kind of diet our ancient ancestors had.
>>70517126
I was in the same boat. My parents had bad eating habits and were lazy. Of course I learned from them and was ~300 lbs by the time I was 18.
Then, I moved in with my grandparents and got a job working in a giant refrigerator. Less than a year later of preparing my own meals and working that job (required a lot of movement and lifting) I managed to get down to 180 lbs. Now, 23, I feel the best that I have since I was 8. Lots of loose skin though. =/
>>70524278
>If it was as simple as all the calories you don't use become fat then how come feces is flammable?
Atheists 1 Christians 0
>>70524278
I agree but ultimately all it comes down to is how much you absorb and how much you spend. If you tend to absorb much more than the average person then adapt your diet. It may sound unfair but life isn't fair, we're not equal and will never be, it's up to you to take care of yourself and compensate for "inequalities".
>>70524314
There is a lotion called Amlactin. Contains a lot of lactic acid that breaks down keratin.
It should help your skin tighten up much faster.
>>70524278
The body does at least absorb 1-2 calories from a gram of soluble fiber, dumbfuck
Also, many nutrition labels don't include fiber in their calorie counts to begin with
>>70524278
>all the calories you don't use become fat
No one claimed this, but you dismantled the strawman well.
A share of them, however, does.
Please also note that the complexity of a system has no bearing on the simple fact energy in = energy out + energy stored.
The more energy you put in, the more you have to "use" or dispose of otherwise, or it ends up stored.
>You could eat 4000-5000 calories a day on a very very high fiber diet and never get fat.
You mean because you'd never take in all that energy, but rather it'd be energy out in the form of shit? Maybe. You'd be shitting all day tho.
>>70524439
Cool, I'll look into it. Thanks.
>>70524314
>Less than a year later of preparing my own meals and working that job (required a lot of movement and lifting) I managed to get down to 180 lbs.
Good job. My job (software engineering) means I have to sit on my ass for at least 9 hours every day, unfortunately.
>>70524682
And sadly, the US has done everything to undermine walking as a simple activity.
>>70514281
>Should we euthanize ridiculously obese people?
No, who will we make fun of then?
>>70524441
>Also, many nutrition labels don't include fiber in their calorie counts to begin with
So... self admission that not all calories are the same. Also moving the goal posts.
>>70524508
This is my point. Glucose and fructose are _readily_ absorbed, so you get hit with 100% of consumed sugars getting processed by the body, not of it makes it into the "out"
I believe that was what >>70522374 is getting at.
"Eating calories doesn't make you fat. Eating sugar does." is the TLDR of what we're discussing. It's an oversimplification of the fact that the body self regulates really well until you bring sugar into the mix
Anyway WATCH THESE PEOPLE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceFyF9px20Y
>>70523140
Holy shit man get it together.
>>70525034
>"Eating calories doesn't make you fat. Eating sugar does." is the TLDR of what we're discussing. It's an oversimplification of the fact that the body self regulates really well until you bring sugar into the mix
The problem with this idea is that you essentially propose drastically reducing our intake effectiveness, or put otherwise the amount of food we need and hence need to produce, because people have no self-control.
At the end of the day, eating too much makes people fat. There's no way around that.
>>70522368
the dog has seen some shit
>>70517268
You fuckin retarded Turkroach?
>>70514321
>a fucking constellation
>>70521457
>you will never be that fat
>>70514281
nah it noting
>>70517126
lost 110lbs in a few years myself f. am
i took up mountain biking and stopped eating shit.
it really does feel fucking great not lugging around all that lard, not being made fun of, being able to enjoy the beach ect.
i was in the same situation, shit parents feeding me trash. "dinner" consisted of a biggie sized bag of garbage from mcdonalds 4/7 days a week. havent eaten that shit in about 5 years
>>70514281
No but their poor life choice should be taxed, just like smokes and booze
Increaseing tax per % of body fat
>>70526054
>lost 40kg
>tfw I can enjoy summer again without sweating like an animal
I don't know how fat people stay fat for longer than one summer
>>70526835
air conditioning cranked up.
>>70526054
>"dinner" consisted of a biggie sized bag of garbage from mcdonalds 4/7 days a week. havent eaten that shit in about 5 years
Yeah, we'd have red meat twice a week, pizza once a week, pasta twice a week (with red meat of course), breakfast food once a week (eggs with butter and lots of bacon), then fast food once a week (Usually fried chicken from KFC).
Not only that, we'd eat a shit-ton of food, and have Soda with lunch/dinner every day.
I refuse to fix my diet because healthy food tastes fucking disgusting, when I needed to lose weight I simply ate less, not 'better'. If you're smart about it you can get away with eating very little without feeling hungry.
>>70514281
Take away their welfare and the problem fixes itself on its own.
>>70514281
have part 2
>>70514281
Nah, just force them on a diet of bread and water for a long time.
>>70527086
I don't think healthy food necessarily tastes disgusting. It just takes more effort usually which is why I usually don't eat that well. Like tonight I'll probably just get takeaway because cooking after a day of non stop bullshit, literally and figuratively, is more effort than its worth.
>>70517126
good job keep it up lad
go to the gym, weightlifting is a life changer
>>70527374
>trying to cover her ass cheek with her shirt at the end
fatbro here, sitting at 321, down from 390, ive found that everyone is different by far, got a gym bro who swears off all carbs, then smashes carbs once a week, I don't care about carbs and i just count calories, got to find what works, every system is different
>>70527374
damn, how does she buy pants? Even getting custom pants would probably be difficult lol
>>70514321
>>70527374
wtf, she doesn't even need it, she's just lazy
and that ass holy fuck it's beyond grotesque
>>70521614
Obviously that's overboard, but seriously speaking I think healthcare should cost more for them (it's justified due to all the extra effort it takes to care for them) and the price goes down exponentially as they lose weight.
>>70514281
Absolutely.
Those things are legit subhumans
>>70514321
Australia bringing the bantz!
>>70521804
Darwin man. When the Happening finally comes, it's survival of the fittest.
>>70528208
Low test beta detected.
>>70528208
>wtf, she doesn't even need it, she's just lazy
congratulations you discovered who 100% of electric store scooter users are.
>>70529060
Hey, my 90 year old grandma uses one of those because she can barely walk otherwise (and she's as far from fat as possible).
More like 98% I'd say.
>>70528208
I was surprised too when she got up and waddled off. "Oh, wait, she can walk?"
She walks slowly and awkwardly, though. There may be pain in the knee joints and soles due to all that extra weight she's lugging around.
>>70514321
>>70522374
>the most Russian post I've ever seen
>>70527374
DAYUM BRUH HIGHEST OF TESTS.
>>70522374
you can all go screw yourself, he's largely correct.
obesity skyrocketed mainly with the advent of refined sugars finding their way into our diets in incredible quantity. the ideal diet for a human is fats, proteins, and leafy, fibrous vegetables, and sugars should be come by naturally in things like potatoes, corn, tomatoes, etc.
calories in, calories out, is true to a certain extent, but your body is NOT a literal fire - it selectively processes food and nutrients and it differentiates between different kinds. different things happen in your body when you eat a piece of meat and when you drink a can of soda.
it's not to say that the atkins diet is the only way to lose weight and be healthy; but if you think that caloric content is the only relevant factor in a healthy diet, you are sadly mistaken.
the gastro-metabolic process is incredibly complex, and not even fully understood at this point. feel free to attempt a calorie restricted diet of pure soda, and a 2500+ calorie diet of spinach, butter, eggs, chicken, celery, and onions. see what happens.
>>70514321
>>70514281
No. We should leave them as examples of why people should lead a healthy lifestyle and continue to make documentaries on why people shouldn't end up like them. However none of the taxpayer's money should go towards looking after them. Why should the healthy people pay for those masses of lard.
Alternatively they could be useful in the military to shield the soldiers from bullets.
>>70514281
why?
>put them into hard labor gulag with diet of bread and water
>only feed those who work
>both the physically and mentally gluttonous will be purged from the population.
>>70514281
No, the medical/industrial complex depends on these specimens as testbeds for new medicines and revenue.
>>70529348
>there may be
There almost certainly is. Imagine having to lug around an extra 350-450 pounds every day for most of your life, your knees and joints would eventually fuck up no matter what.
That's what she is in essence, a thin body with the burden of carrying 4x its weight.
>>70514281
Nah, just send them to Somalia along with a camera-man to broadcast what will happen to them. They will either get eaten or they lose weight. In either case it will violently redpill all lardasses around the world
>>70521804
America is doomed you mean
