I'm looking for specifics, not just "m-muh jews" or "m-muh general expansion".
I cant find any information in textbooks or online because obviously this is one of the most suppressed events and the only reason they give for the invasion of Poland is "hitler hated jews lol".
Any relevance from WWI?
"muh teutonic clay"
>>70493768
Same reason why Trump ran for President.
To lose in the long run.
Polish genocide of ethnic Germans.
>>70493768
Germans are the original berserkers/barbarians and their pride couldn't take the hit of being so buttfucked in WW1, so they had to show they still had the Furor Teutonicus.
>>70493768
He was really really jonesing for some kielbasa.
>>70493768
are you dumb?
versailles treaty gave german clay to poland, including danzig. hitler wanted it back, and while he was at it he figured he'd just take over poland entirely because why not
>>70493768
Hitler thought the west won't go to war over Poland. Also, fucking shit up is in their blood.
>>70493992
what kind of faggot goes to war over clay. what is he a fuggen sculpter.
>>70493768
He wanted more land for staging his troops and Poland is a huge slab of land that borders many weaker countries without the capability of coming to their aid.
Corridor to Russis, retribution for danzig massacre. He didn't even want to fight them but poland was a shit and thought the poms would back them 100%, turns out no one really gave a fuck.
>>70493768
Both world wars were about the Jews lad.
i was always taught that the nazi's used false flag operations to justify the invasion, to "liberate" ethnic germans from the oppression they were facing in poland.
its hard to find historical accounts that refute this story, but im sure a lot of it is highly fabricated and taught as truth
>>70493768
Poland was ethnically killing Germans and broadcasting it on the radio to piss Hitler off.
In his speech where he declared war on Poland he says this is why he is sending troops.
>>70493768
Poland had just defeated the Soviet Union.
>>70493768
Check the katyn massacre and how the jewish media used it to wage war against germany.
they had to surrender a big chunk of their land to poland after WW1. Problem was that a bunch of native germans were still living there. The Polish started slaughtering them. Some 60,000 were killed. Hitler wasn't about to just sit there and watch his people get ruthlessly murdered through a series of hate crimes so he took action.
I don't think he wanted to take over Poland. I think he just wanted his goddamn land back for the safety of his countrymen.
>>70493768
>and the only reason they give for the invasion of Poland is "hitler hated jews lol".
I can certainly tell you were paying attention in class.
>>70493891
This. Hitler even provided a 16 point plan, of how Germany and Poland could prevent war. Poland wouldn't look at it. Secondly, The Soviet Union also invaded Poland, but no one declared war on them.
>>70493891
>>70494380
retarded stormfag shit
Their entire reason to justify the invasion was a false flag attack on a radio towers that they actually named Operation Himmler
>>70493887
Misspelled bernie you fucking fat moose
>>70494884
>Trusting an entire nation of Jews.
>>70494100
What kind of faggot goes to war over oil. what is he a fuggen american.
>>70494809
>of how Germany and Poland could prevent war. Poland wouldn't look at it.
No he didnt. He made a none aggression pact with Poland in 1934 and started making more and more demands of them to the point where they would basically become Germanys bitch. And when they refused to comply, Hitler invaded, tearing up his none aggression pact. Plus he had been eyeing western Poland since he came to power
Then after he made a none aggression pact with the Russians before also tearing up that as well
>>70494949
yeah, I'll take actual history over retarded stormfag revisionist "HITLER DIINDU NUFFIN" shit
>>70493768
Because Poles gased 6 billion of ethnic germans and made lampshades out of their skin.
>>70495269
>Thinking the 'actual history' isn't just Polish revisionism.
>>70495331
REMEMBER THE 6 GORILLION GERMANS BOMBED AT DRESDEN!
>>70493768
Here you go OP, everything you'll ever need.
> https://justice4germans.com/danzig-and-wwii/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MejbBsSAP8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkQ6J5F01Do
> http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/Polish_false_history.htm
> http://www.jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm
>>70495664
OY SCHEISSE, THE POLES GASED MY GRANDMOTHER AND BROADCASTED IT ON RADIO, SHE WAS ONLY 5 YEARS OLD
>>70495664
Enjoy.
>>70359058
>>70496085
>discussing the german invasion of Poland
>link to your epic shitpost extravaganza about "le holohoax!" despite it having nothing to do with the topic at hand
wew lad.
>>70495269
It's comically obvious when someone learned WW2 history from History Channel documentaries.
http://www.vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres8/SchultzeRhonhof.pdf
> https://justice4germans.com/danzig-and-wwii/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MejbBsSAP8I
Have fun.
>>70496296
>REMEMBER THE 6 GORILLION GERMANS BOMBED AT DRESDEN!
>>70496296
You're suddenly offended by shitposts?
>>70495269
if the ancient adage "history is written by the victor" holds true, why does every normie fail to apply this to WW2 and blindly accept all the pro russia, pro jew, pro """"allies"""" propaganda
>>70494100
I'm guessing the clay was used to make buildings and other important stuff back then.
>>70496375
and its comically obvious when someone went to some shitty public school and read neo-nazi revisionist history
I love how you faggots can NEVER actually have a discussion, but just shitpost a bunch of links to whatever shit you watched. Like Im going to watch a fucking hour long youtube video right now because you lack the ability to articulate a point.
>>70496530
>"history is written by the victor"
so why does every stormfag think the meaning of this is literally everyone that ever lost a war ever was in the moral right?
Fact stands that Hitler invaded Poland based on a false flag attack named Operation Himmler
Watch this for the answers and more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0E_Ewe8g2Y
It was a territorial dispute mostly, and the poles were very arrogant and unwilling to negotiate, because they had France and Britain on their side
>>70496692
Im not saying everyone who ever lost a war was in the right, I'm just saying don't accept everything you're told about it, even if its from multiple sources because they are all on the 'winner' side of that story
>>70496692
>Hitler invaded Poland based on a false flag attack named Operation Himmler
This is even bigger nonsense than "polish genocide on Germans".
There was no such thing, these claims fall apart under very light scrutiny.
>>70493768
Google Lebensraum. Or read mein Kampf... Which you should do anyway before going to pol
>>70496863
>even if its from multiple sources because they are all on the 'winner' side of that story
yeah, let me just accept everything written by random neo-nazis on the internet. They are obviously the better source of completely unbiased history when compared to peer reviewed historians and actual documents from the times and historical accounts.
>>70496692
>love how you faggots can NEVER actually have a discussion
Is there something to discuss with people who hang out here everyday, but don't bother studying the background material they later claim isn't being discussed. You're sharing History Channel tier nonsense like it's profound insight, then you're indignant the response is a link to something to READ. It's precious that you think anyone BELIEVES you're here to discuss or learn anything on these subjects with any intellectual honesty, especially after that classic reply filled with ad homs.
>you hate the site
>you hate the board
>and you despise everyone here
Not really coming across as the average /pol/ user that way, Chaim.
>>70493768
Are you retarded? Poland was given large swathes of German land after WW1, for absolute no reason. They refused to give them back or even negotiate with the Germans, so the Germans decided to simply take them back.
threads about nazis always show how is real retard
>>70493768
Copy pasting wiki for others
Lebensraum was an ideological element of Nazism, which advocated Germany's territorial expansion into Eastern Europe, justified by the need for agricultural land in order to maintain the town-and-country balance upon which depended the moral health of the German people.[5] In practice, during the war, the Nazi policy Generalplan Ost (Master Plan East) was to kill, deport, or enslave the Polish, Ukrainian, Russian and other Slavic populations and other peoples living there considered racially inferior to the Germans and to repopulate Eastern Europe with Germanic people to achieve Lebensraum.[6][7][8] The populations of cities were to be exterminated by starvation, thus creating an agricultural surplus that would feed Germany, and thereby allow political replacement by and re-population with a German upper class.[6] The eugenics of Lebensraum explicitly assumed the racial superiority of Germans as an Aryan master race (Herrenvolk), who, by virtue of their superiority (physical, mental, genetic) had the right to displace any people they deemed to be Untermenschen (subhumans) of inferior racial stock.[9]
Because Polish FM idiot Beck has reversed the initial friendship between Third Reich and Pilsudski's Poland after Pilsudski's death in 1935. Killing of the ethnic Germans was a literal excuse made up in one minute by Hitler's clique to have any cause for the attack whatsoever.
>hurr durr generalplan ost and lebensraum wasn't real hitler dindu nuffin
You guys are retarded honestly
>>70497117
>Implying we all think that Hitler din do nuffin here on /pol/
>>70497199
None of this has anything to do with reality. It's hilarious that people actually believe this, all of this was made up by soviet and American propagandists after the war, to pacify their newly conquered subjects.
>>70497117
>REEEE! go away!
amazing. Please post 5 8 hour long youtube videos made by paranoid schizophrenics because you are incapable of articulating the retarded revionsist history you believe in.
Hitler invaded Poland based on a false flag attacked named operation himmler
They looked at us in a funny way making grimasses and shit
>>70497185
>Poland was given large swathes of German land after WW1, for absolute no reason.
Historically untrue and absolutely retarded. Silesia stayed German, whole Pomerania stayed German. What other lands are supposedly German? Danzig which was created by the Polish king and paid tribute throughout its whole existence to Polish Crown or maybe "Posen" which in its 8 centuries of history was German for only 112 years during partitions?
>>70497249
ofc they weren't real, it's post war proaganda non-sense like most of the stuff you believe in WW2.
Hell, you only need to read the wikipedia entry to see that it's propaganda
>Nearly all the wartime documentation on Generalplan Ost was deliberately destroyed shortly before Germany's defeat in May 1945.[6][7] Thus, no copies of the plan have ever been found after the war among the documents in German archives. Apart from Ehlich's testimony, there are several documents which refer to this plan or are supplements to it. Although no copies of the actual document have survived, most of the plan's essential elements have been reconstructed from related memos, abstracts and other ancillary documents
Gee, those newly added slav subjects to the USSR must have praised messiah Stalin every day from saving them from genocide and slavery
>>70497293
>implying shill opinions "count"
>>70493768
He considered it German territory and thought the ethnic Germans should live in their historic (as he believed) land.
>>70493887
XD
>>70497315
Abandon your false faith in the crooked cross, and accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior, or be forever damned.
It's not too late to change your fate, reprobate!
>>70493887
(you)
>>70493768
Because Hitler was planning an invasion of Europe. He was massing solider on the front in order to attack and moving aircraft in position to support the assault. That is why the aircraft were so close to the front lines. The Russians were simply caught with their pants down.
>>70497369
>ad hom
>ad hom
>ad hom
>ad hom
Not an argument.
>>70497461
no anon you are the shill
>>70497059
just because lots of brainwashed jewish faggots all say in unison that 6 gorillion and hitler started the wars doesn't mean its gospel truth
>>70497490
pretty funny coming from a jew
>>70497543
Hitler invaded Poland based on a false flag attacked named operation himmler
all you can do is shitpost neo-nazi made up history videos because you lack the ability to actually have a little debate and call people "le jew!" when they dont just buy into your horseshit.
Im not responding to you until you actually address the point of Hitler invaded Poland based on a false flag attacked named operation himmler
>>70497443
So, in theory that nazis had won, they would let every ethnic group in europe live peaceful life right? Hitler wouldnt try to take superior humans to spread over all of europe.
Nazis wouldve just let everybody do their thing without interfering, this is what are you telling me?
>>70497611
Mocking the Lord will not save you from the fire on the day of judgement. You worship a false idol in Hitler and your faith in his cult will drag you into perdition.
>>70497443
Hitler talked extensively about the need to expand eastward in both mein kampf and his speeches you dumb fucking slav. Even holocaust denying hitler apologists like David Irving don't doubt the existence of Generalplan Ost.
>>70497369
>paranoid schizophrenics because you are incapable of articulating the retarded revionsist
You've been at it too long without a break.
It's frustrating when someone skips past the [citation required] step, and just gives you the citations. Then you have to race to improvise a complaint
>you didn't explain it to me from the beginning so we could spend 20 posts before I had enough information on the subject
>WHY ARENT YOU RESPONSIBLE FOR EDUCATING ME RHEEEEE
kek
>>70497596
So your only response is a holocaust joke?
You are pretty fucking stupid if you are such a skeptic to actual historians, but at the same time, believe any dumb internet conspiracy theory if it just falls in line with your already held crazy beliefs.
>>70497726
>So, in theory that nazis had won, they would let every ethnic group in europe live peaceful life right?
Not Jews, no. But everyone else yes, they were already allies with Bulgarians, Croats, Ukrainians and even some Russians.
>>70497437
Nigger.
>>70497914
Nazis saw you as subhuman you self hating shit, and they were probably right
>>70497790
mocking Jews is not "mocking the lord"
Jews are people cursed by god
>>70493768
Hitler had intel that the Red Army was gonna make it's into Europe soon. Stalin had already been massing troops along Eastern Europe in anticipation of easy pickings while Germany is too distracted with consolidating power in the west. To prevent the communist parasite from taking all of Poland as a foothold, Hitler ordered a preemptive strike and sure enough, the Red Army was ready to go and managed to take only half of Poland before the halfway standoff with the Wehrmacht.
A German, a Pole, a Frenchman and an Englishman are sitting at the bar having a drink. Frenchman and Englishman dont like the German very much. Infact they think he is an asshole. They tell the bartender outloud Germany is only aloud half a beer from now on. After a few pints Germany gets the courage to say hey bartender...fill my pint up. This is bullshit i want a full pint. Poland smirks. Poland takes Germany's beer. Germany says what the fuck. Thw feenchman and englishman say calm down with a smirk. Dont do anything or we will kick your ass Germany. Germany is now stewing in his anger. Germany again asks for a fullpint. Poland again takes the pint and giggles. Germany standd up screams FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKER and smashes a pint over Polands face. The frenchman spits his beer out and looks worried. The englishman looks around and sees two young lads having a pint names Canada and Australia. Come on lads lets fuck this cunt up! They are kicking and punching the shit out of the german but hes a big dude and knows how to fight. He pushes the three men off and kicks france in the nuts and screamsYOUR SUPPOSED TOBE MY BROTHER YOU CUNT. England jumps on his back and bites his ear. Germany screams. Canada and australia start wailing on his mid section. Germany screams in anger ARGHHHHHHH and throws england off. England is momentarily knocked out. Canada and Australia are visibly scared and back up with their hands up. Stay back motherfucker! Stay back! Germany laughs. Looks at france. YOU!....Germany slowly walks up to France and grabs him by the throat. Germany lifts france off the ground and looks him in the eyes. YOURE MY FUCKING BITCH NOW. YOU ARE MY WHORE. The saloon doors fly open. Its that brash mouthy kid spitting out chew. Its Burgerboy. Hey! Put em down you yellabelly motherfucker. What did you just say to me shitface? I says *spits out chew*...put em down.
>>70497595
>tu quoque
Ok.
>>70497671
>operation himmler!
>OPERATION WAS NAMED HIMMLER!
Ok.
>ad homs
>ad homs
Not really having much a discussion that way, are we?
Watch "The World At War" documentary. It's the most accurate account of WWII. I got an A- in WWII history.
>>70497941
You just confirmed what he said you dumb muslim.
Lebensraum
>>70497900
my only response was don't fall for the argument from popularity, which I lightened with a holocaust joke. Sadly it seems that has distracted you too much from realizing this
>>70497914
>But everyone else yes, they were already allies with Bulgarians, Croats, Ukrainians and even some Russians.
this is absolute horseshit. Other than taking advantage of some pissed off ukranian nationlist to help fight the soviets, all of those people were going to be brutally subjugated, and they were.
I realize your neo-nazi revisionist history just forgot to mention the Barbarossa decree. Or good ole Mussolinis Rab concentration camp that held people from yugoslavia
>>70493768
I'm a Poortuguese. I always wondered why history class never seem to have passed beyond WWI and Weimarer Republic
After seeing this speech it became clear to me.
https://youtu.be/rh7r5_Fln1s
I began questioning a lot of shit since I heard in school about the unfair treatment of Germany in the treaty of Versailles.
The Holocaust never made sense to me.
People don't think
They just follow.
All I feel these days when I look at pictures of Hitler is sadness.
>>70497941
Yes you stupid nigger, I mentioned it already. Posen and Greater Poland before their capture in partitions of Poland were Polish for 8 centuries of their existence. Just because Germs controlled it for a single century, it doesn't make it any more German.
>>70498146
No I didn't, immigrant scum.
>>70498081
>Ok.
So you dont have anything to say at all? Im just going to take this as you admitting you were wrong.
>>70498205
God you people are retarded.
Do some research about the actual cause of the war, not some fucking paragraph in Mein Kampf, which was an exagarated political book.
Have fun playing spot the shill, anons
>>70494380
This is the most retarded shit I've seen this week.
He signed a non aggression pact and started demanding things. Then he demanded a railway from Germany to Gdańsk and he wanted the area around the railway to be cut out from Poland and given to germany so we wouldn't be able to tax them for the goods passing to Gdańsk. Oh and also then all of our clay north of the railway would be cut off so Adolf would be able to annex it easily, cutting us off from the sea.
We told him to eat a hot polish kiełbasa so he got mad and invaded us.
>>70498255
but what makes them different?
academics/soldier (airman now)/ diplomat/athlete
outliers and respectable
the avg bottom dweller are nothing of that sort, whether they be black/white/asian
>>70498246
>this is absolute horseshit.
No it isn't...do research before you mouth off with your add hominems. You haven't contributed anything to the thread except call everyone schizophrenics and stormfags
>>70498409
>wet fisting noises
Take it however you like, its not my problem.
>>70498450
>Do some research about the actual cause of the war,
It was Hitler being an extreme german nationalist and expanding his empire at any cost.
pretty funny how years later some subhuman like you shills for him because you think it was about "white power" or whatever
>>70498355
>immigrant scum
It's a polish flag above my post Abdul. I know you muslims are not good with european geography but you could at least make some effort.
>>70498246
The only bulgarians killed during the war died from the Allies bomb rauds on our capital. Sure,, Hitler poisoned our tzar back then, bt we saved all our jews by deporting them to safety.
>>70496375
Oy vey
> this thread makes the shills RHEEEEEEE
>>70359058
>>70359058
>>70359058
>>70498509
>and started demanding things
Like Poles to stop killing ethnic Germans.
>>70498054
>I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race
wew
Is that a real quote btw
>>70498559
Anon, dont get mad at me because you cant even write one sentence explaining your views and have to rely on posting pictures that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Im done with you.
>>70498548
>No it isn't
prove it isnt horseshit. Also way to ignore the Barbarossa decree and rab concentration camp. And thats not what an ad hominem is you buzzword loving goof ball lol
>>70493946
This
>>70498509
He did all he could to unite the german people peacefully, they spent several days at the negotiating table before the decision was made to invade.
These things are generally more complicated than one side being completely right or wrong. Poland wouldn't budge because they thought UK and France would immediately stop Hitler, and Hitler thought they wouldn't get involved and cause WW2 but he was wrong
Braumsberg Massacres of ethnic germans in former germany /thread
Let's focus our hate on Muslims instead of Jews please
>>70499006
most transparent shill in existence
>>70498783
We didn't kill Germans. We kicked them out of their homes and sent them back to Germany, sure. Because they were on our clay now. Whatever bullshit you've heard about killing Germans was either Hitler's propaganda so he would be in the right in the eyes of his people or something made up by neonazis to excuse Papa Adolf.
>>70498945
this supposed massacre happened after the invasion shitposter
>>70498802
It's the easiest fucking thing to google Nazi croatian, bulgarian allies, and other Russian units who fought alongside them
>>70499112
>We kicked them out of their homes and sent them back to Germany, sure. Because they were on our clay now.
And you think there is zero chance of this resulting in incidents with people being killed?
Get closer to Russia, Reunite the Reich, Dantzig corridor.
>>70499226
Stormfags don't say those were incidents, they say it was a planned genocide, and the death count is as high as millions.
>>70499147
stop moving the goalpost
>>So, in theory that nazis had won, they would let every ethnic group in europe live peaceful life right?
>But everyone else yes
horseshit claim. Slavs were subhuman and their subhuman culture would be erased and germanized. Shit like the Pabst plan to remake Warsaw into a more German city by removing all the filthy polishness from it
>>70499437
>But everyone else yes, they were already allies with Bulgarians, Croats, Ukrainians and even some Russians.
>this is absolute horseshit.
I prove that it's not then you bring up something else then accuse me from moving the goalposts.
MY GREAT GRANDPA WAS 19 WHEN THE POLES AT DANZIG GASSED HIM AND TURNED HIM INTO SOAP. NEVER FORGET
Preemptive strike
Poland was getting ready to attack so Hitler hit them first and fired for maximum effect
>tfw had that fuck Churchill and the Frog's PM not fed lies and played the Polish head of state they would have given up the land Hitler wanted and they wouldn't have started the war
>>70499588
this post makes no sense. You claimed Germans didnt have any plans to erase the culture and surpress the people of the lands they took over (other than the jews lol) which is bullshit.
Now you post some irrelevant to the point picture about Hitler talking about jews.
Its pretty obvious to everyone here you dont know dick about WW2 and whats really going on is that you really hate jews for whatever reason and are simply trying to justify the actions of a dictator who pretty much everyone hates, and not just because he fucked with jews.
>>70499226
Incidents, sure
Planned genocide, no.
What would you do if a German pulled out his waffle and started shooting everywhere screaming fuckt ihr off das ist meine clay
>>70493768
He wanted better access to Danzig since it was still belonged to Germany, but the pols were being shitter about it. Offered to build a highway to it or a railroad and pay a use tax for transporting etc etc.
Poland at the time had it's own expansionist ideas and though it could instigate war with germany and get france and england to come up from behind and destroy Germany , then Poland predicted they would be allowed to have more of germany's land.
They were wrong.
>>70493768
Danzig motherfucker.
because poland wouldn't roll over and give up the danzig corridor like the czechcucks
>>70493768
Poland at the time (and now) held historic German land with German minorities.
Itt poles reveal themselves to be fucking niggers. With land hand outs from superior nations to the costs of germany.
>>70493768
google "the greatest story never told episode 1" 6 hour documentary. goes over it in the first hour or two
>>70500663
greatest meme ever told is fucking retarded.
Because Germans are eternal enemies of Polish people and entire world, and they only crave destruction of everything.
They are like more evil Chaos worshippers
>>70499974
Somebody bought the Nazis' invented propaganda and false flags.
>>70501333
What makes germans evil but not scandis?
>>70501751
Fact that scandis started 0 World Wars, Germans started 2
Also rapefugee crisis
Also European Union (shit idea)
Also eastern Prussia shit
Also "Danzig ist German hurr durr"
Seriously though, if Germans could just stay the fuck inside their own borders, and stop ruining everything everywhere, it would be great
>>70493768
Isnt it obvious? To take back their land that was stolen from them post WWI.
>>70493768
It's not expansion when you are taking back your own land, to save your own people from persecution and death. If you don't know what I'm talking about read some history.
>>70497611
jews dont believe in hell
>>70502133
>save people from persecution and death
We do not do fiction here burger
Also, Germans really like getting cay "back"
History is written by victor, but today, in 2016, leftist idiots like progressive Germany more than "right wing neo nazi conservative Poland", so they try to make excuses and make Germany as innocent as they can.
See: "Polish Death Camps", "Polish genocide of Germans" etc
to get to the other side
>>70502347
>what is sheol
>>70495269
He fucked poland sure but fuck off about that hur betrayed russia. Fuck the Soviet Union and stalin. They directly opposed the Nazi ideology and they were the same type of aggressors as the Germans, they would have attacked the krauts tried to knock them out before they did. Fuck both of those war mongering faggots.
>>70501751
They both the same.
>thinks that they are better than everyone
>that means everyone else is shit
>as the best they don't make mistakes
>their opinions are always right
>as that they are always morally right and justifiable
>their government/rulers are always right as their are chosen the best from the best people
Look at this day Germany or Scandinavia. They still think that they are the best, that what they do is right at last publicly. even if they think else they still comply.
>>70502477
>leftist idiots like progressive Germany more than "right wing neo nazi conservative Poland", so they try to make excuses and make Germany as innocent as they can.
Are you kidding? The lefties are the ones pushing the German guilt complex as hard as they can so they can shut down any objection to importing more muslims with "holocaust!".
>>70493768
Because Piłsudski died too early and the following Polish leaders wanted to remain neutral and didn't want to choose between Russia and Germany. If Piłsudski was alive and accepted Hitler's alliance the world would be ruled under the boot of a glorious German-Polish Empire. Of course that's providing he wouldn't stab them in the back like he did Russia, but Piłsudski isn't a stinking commie, so...
>>70502776
>best buddies with nazi Germany
>forbidden German commies to ally with socialist so NSDAP can win
>divided Europe for their likings
>both populous movement opposing Wall Street
Hell Brits plan to start bombing Russia oil fields so he could not support Germany.
Directly opposed.
Sure after the Germans invite them.
>>70501945
>Germany started both
Yeah alright I'm not taking you serious anymore. You're fucking retarded.
>>70493768
geopolitically speaking ww2 was just a rematch after ww1, and hitler invaded poland because he basically had two options: invade poland or invade france but there was a much much higher chance that poles woul invade in case of german attack on france that the french attacking west germany in case of a german attack on Poland. Also he had help from russia, basically guaranteeing a quick and easy victory
>>70503129
Yeah, cause that is not the historical fact at all
>namecalling
you are fat because you are from USA
>>70503129
its tru tho, but they basically had no choice cuz brits were strangling them economicly and through their alliances. Honestly its the same old conflict the maritime empire vs the rising continental power, a conflict as old as ancient greece and sparta and athens
>>70503311
Because you are.
>historical data
Hur that I pull out of thin air.
So what germans put on a disguise and shot the archduke?
>>70503410
are you retarded? do you think they started the world war cuz some1 shot some irrelevant duke? they obviously wanted a war and were just looking for a casus belli
>>70503129
But they do.
>Russia start modernizing into real power
>recently united Germany have great advantage in technology, organization and logistic
>the best moment for war is now
>German HQ and emperor was really want for Germany to become Gross
The second war is similar.
>Western Allies give all to appease Hitler
>even sold Czechoslovakia which he promises is last thing
>still want more
>Poles are ready to give Danzing after they make their freshly build port operational
>now we want it now with a Stalin best buddy
Sure you can say that Germans get baited by Brits or behind it was Jews but Germans eat bait every time.
>>70503410
Go back to picking watermelons Tyrone, you clearly never paid attention in history classes.
>Historical data = irrelevant
USA education everyone
My god this thread is retarded.
Germany and Poland controlled various parts of each others territory throughout their shared history. Both had claims on each others land, and the allies favored the Poles' claims following WW1.
There was conflict as would be expected when one nation occupies another's former territory, but the German government spun it into a genocide and performed false flag operations.
There's no more evidence that photos like
>>70498289
>>70498333
>>70498365
are presented in the proper context than the Holocaust ones. For all we know they're just dead people, it's a matter of which side you want to believe.
Hitler was not wrong for wanting Germany's territory returned, but the fact that he was willing to bumrush Poland in the middle of negotiations proved that he was too much of a threat to Europe and the allies were inevitably going to do something about it.
Think about this shit rather than just blindly shilling one side.
>>70503622
wrong. pls educate yourself before talking, maybe read some mackinder. Honestly the conflict: naval power vs a continental power is as old as ancient greece
>>70493768
Take the red pill
>>70498509
>denying the polish genocide of ethnic germans
this is on the same level as denying the armenian genocide
>>70503871
That was reason why Brits stand against Germans.
But main target for Germany and main spoils was Russia and Mittleurope.
The emerging power versus old empire.
Please use your education before start writing.
>>70503742
>no actual response
Just what I thought.
>>70493992
You mean Polish territories taken in Partition of Poland.
>>70503920
Polish army and Jewish communist murdering Germans few days before German invasion.
This is like Finland shooting USSR before Winter War.
>>70493768
They were killing Germans in Poland. He had no choice.
>>70503920
Why do the flags change from US to JIDF to Israel?
Was he uber vpn hacking the same thread to prevent the jewluminati from blowing up his computer?
It's such a shame we didn't confine the seed of the Kraut to the annals of history
>>70497914
Funny how in Mein Kampf Hitler talks about conquering Eastern Europe and eradicating its population though.
>>70504477
newfag
>>70504285
Where exactly?
Can you give me a location? Name a city?
>>70499588
> The Jew would be utterly oblivious to what had happened the day before, and he would start once again by repeating his former absurdities, as if nothing had happened.
Holy shit, Hitler was hilarious. I might start actually reading his writings instead of sucking uncut Jew cock.
>>70499805
> pretty much everyone hates him, and not just because he fucked with Jews.
Then why do people hate him, schlomo? It's not because of muh 6 gorillion?
>>70498070
If this is yours I am impressed, Leaf.
>>70498070
New copypasta?
>>70504986
Even if every piece of evidence of the Holocaust was fabricated by Jews in order to make whites feel guilty and accept genocide, trying to conquer Europe in the middle of its progress toward undoing the effects of last war makes you an asshole. Hitler obviously wasn't as evil as the History Channel bullshit makes him out to be, but he was still aggressive and arrogant enough to be a threat to the civilized world.
>>70499805
>implying the Germans intended to keep all the conquered territories
>>70505385
Then why the fuck did he claim 2/3 of Europe for eventual German settlement?
>>70493768
it was germanys fucking land fuck sticks. the brits and france noticed and threw a tantrum
germany was the slave of europe after WW1. this was arranged by the brits. the nazis grew germanys economy. the reclaiming of old land could have given them more economic might by instantly growing their population
the brits couldnt have that. so they declared war. if their slave wanted freedom the brits would rather the slave die than live out from under their thumb
>>70494380
Revisionist lies. The "Poles were killing Germans meme" was a false flag created by the Krauts. They dressed up like Polish troops and planted dead bodies.
>>70505564
Hitler wanted to restore the borders of the Holy Roman Empire, including Germany, Austria, parts of Poland, Czechoslovakia, France and the Low Countries. When France declared war, and was beaten by Germany, it's not as if they were just going to leave and let the French continue fighting them.
Hitler attacked Yugoslavia and Greece to assist his incompetent allies in Italy, and the USSR because he was paranoid of communism, in part due to the communist revolution in Munich, where Hitler was living at the time.
pic related, asking Germans in Eastern Europe to RETURN to Germany, not the other way around
Why didn't Polen have capable army that time? I mean, they had long history and hell, even we had
>>70506657
A lot of nations had capable armies, which for some reason or another was beaten by the Germans
>>70506896
What i read about it was like, Poles were using shit like horses that time, straight from 1850s
>>70493768
The slaughter of Germans by Jewish Communist """Poles""" in The Danzig Corridor.
>>70506427
"And so, we National Socialists consciously draw a line beneath the foreign policy tendency of our pre–War period. We take up where we broke off six hundred years ago. We stop the endless German movement to the south and west, and turn our gaze toward the land in the East. At long last, we break off the colonial and commercial policy of the pre–War period and shift to the soil policy of the future.
If we speak of soil in Europe today, we can primarily have in mind only Russia and her vassal border states."
Hitler wanted their clay.
>Holy Roman Empire
Even that didn't include "Russia and her vassal border states." He was a fucking conqueror who wanted to kick ass and forge an empire, stop trying to make him seem like a poor victim who just wanted his country back. You're worse than liberals with black criminals.
>>70507189
Using cavalry as mobile infantry was very common at the time, Germans did it as well
>>70493768
To buy time.
>>70507189
The Polish cavalry were actually good at what they did, but the Germans literally turned them into a meme.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge_at_Krojanty
>>70506427
Why would he care that much about the HRE? If anything wouldn't he have wanted to restore the German Empire territories since he actually experienced it and fought for it? Was he that much of a history aficionado?
>>70507448
I don't know how many Germans you think were around, that they could fill up Poland and Russia, displacing their native inhabitants,
I am not trying to make Hitler appear like a poor victim, I just think maybe a more nuanced look at his motivations is necessary
>>70508761
He definitely was pretty obsessed the Holy Roman Empire, alluding to it whenever he referred to Germany as the Third Reich, and moved the Imperial Regalia from Vienna to Nuremburg, where he held his rallies.
"France will have to pay dearly, for she caused and started it. She is now being thrown back to her borders of AD 1500. This means that Burgundy will again become part of the Reich. We shall thereby win a province that so far as beauty and wealth are concerned compares more than favorably with any other German province." --Joseph Goebbels
>>70505646
>it was germanys fucking land fuck sticks
It wasn't. Only reasonable case could be made for Danzig and that was a territory protetcted by League of Nations.
