If Islam is so shit, how come they once had more clay than ancient Rome?
>>70468090
Christianity cucked the Romans.
Turned it into pure shit.
>>70468090
>Umayyad?
>they mad
>>70468173
The British Empire was Christian
>>70468173
/thread.
>>70468090
>more clay than ancient Rome
>clay
Sand, m8. SAND. ;)
They got lucky, though. Persia was in crisis, Byzantium too. North Africa too. Dynastic struggles in Spain.
>>70468314
DELETE THIS
>>70468090
Taqiyya
>>70468090
>Muhamad commands them to rape and pillage
>They do just that
What was done by the Romans has had a direct affect on Western society today
Meanwhile sandniggers conquered a bunch of sand
>>70468090
Most of the Clay is worthless sand desu senpai.
>>70468090
>look I have conquered sand muuh empire
>>70468314
THE GOYIM KNOW SHUT IT DOWN
>>70468682
Romans did the same thing
If Australia is so shit than why does it have more clay than Rome ever did?
>>70468090
like 60% of that clay is/was worthless empty desert. Congrats you conquered a bunch of sand. Also the Umayyad Caliphate didn't even last 100 years. America has had a more enduring empire than the Umayyads. The Mongol Empire lasted longer than the Umayyads. Let those two facts sink in.
>t.
>>70468773
they gave us real numbers, instead of that dumb roman numeral shit
>two empires that have warred until both are drained of resource and manpower
>people are tired of their shit cause the overtaxation and being forced to send more of their men to keep the war going and are willing to jump on the next thing that comes around
>"ASALAMI ALIKUM, JOIN US AND OUR NEW RELIGION AND WE WON'T ALLOW THIS TO GO ANY FURTHER, TRUST US HABIBI ;)"
we kind of turned warfare into an art/industry. But they did pretty good, all the way through spain.
>>70468973
The numbers come from India.
>>70468090
>clay
Sand
>>70468314
don't bait the fedora-tippers mate
>>70468902
Most Australian Clay is completely worthless. There are just a few coastal areas dotted through you country that have any value whatsoever. The rest is about as inhabitable as the fucking moon.
>>70468090
Mostly on the grounds of the Byzantines and Sasanids being run down after years of war with each other, leaving their exhausted empires easy prey to outside invasion.
>>70469186
pol is Orwell tier when it comes to the amount of Historical Fact thrown into the memory hole
>>70468090
That is the power of religion, it created a unifier in the middle east allowing them to achieve that umayyad caliphate.
>>70468973
Like everything the Arabs "invented" they stole it from someone else. In this instance the Poo-N-Loos.
>>70468892
Romans did but they left great architecture and centers of learning in their wake a well as a set of laws that many conquered provinces pf Rome found to be suprtior to their own
no sane person wants shariah law, those living under shariah law dont want shariah law, but when they enter a country without they immediately want it despite it being the reason they left
like a heroin addict that wants to quit
>>70468090
>>70468173
Caesar got cucked by senators and Roman conquest ambitions died with him. Augustus made a policy of having easily defendable borders and just holding them, and all of his successors except Trajan copied this. Christianity had nothing to do with it.
Islam is a military doctrine disguised as a religion. They see themselves as constantly at war with infidels and live to jihad. Most of those lands were full of tribal people they genocided, and civilization decayed and eventually vanished under Islam.
>>70469410
even if they only stored ancient knowledge, they did better than the shit in street europeans of that time
>>70469510
Rome reached it's maximum size after Caesar you fucking tard.
>>70468090
Because it's so shit.
>>70469481
in early rome, the father had total and utter control over his family. He could have any of them executed if he so chose. How much different is that from sharia?
I think you'll find ancient rome was very authoritarian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pater_familias
>>70468090
WTF is this map? They never had italy
>>70468090
Islam was and is a retarded desert cult but in the caliphate times it managed to spread into very civilized areas in Persia and the Med basin, assimilating civiliational achievements of very advanced peoples. Just like christianity, which only became relevant for humanity when it became the official religion of the Roman Empire and a vessel for its pre-christian culture. Before that it was jut a group of weird Jews frustrated about their magic rabbis untimely death.
That was long ago, now Islam is altogether shit, contributing nothing to civilization but terrorism and Sharia
>>70469244
>>70469244
Why australia doesnt try to forest the desert? Expensive sure, but would be most sensible thing to do
>>70469585
Hence why I said except Trajan dumbass. Rome got only two more provinces, and his successor sold one of them back.
>>70469510
>Christianity had nothing to do with it.
yes im sure the burning of Pagan altars, priests and followers, and setting off a religious war that weakened not only the internal affairs of Rome but also the military since they couldnt fully commit to the war fronts plus the fact that the Christian emperors kept enlisting foreigners in the Roman army until it was entirely fucking Visigoth that turned on Rome and sacked it had nothing to do with the fall of Rome
Nothing at all
>>70469585
Sure, but only by a little bit. And after Trajan it immediately started to lose territory and never gained again.
>>70469585
Pretty sure it reached it maximum size afer Trajan about 150 years after Caesar died you tard
>>70469559
A lot of the Ancient Knowledge they stored came from Europe.
And Northwest Europe does not equal all of Europe. The Byzantines were humming along during this time at a very high level of civilization. Also look at it now. Euros aren't fleeing to the ME, the Arabs are fleeing tow western europe because their land, culture, religion and civilization is a shithole.
>>70469684
Read the legend Pierre
>>70469765
So you are agreeing with me?
>>70469738
OP wanted to know why Rome stopped expanding. And enlisting foreigners goes back to the beginning of Rome because the young male population kept being killed off in senator's glory wars.
>>70469667
Indeed, the early republic was very patriarchal, however it was not as patriarchal as ancient athens which got pretty absurd. And the level on control over women eased as the republic became the empire.
>>70469691
why? they have more than enough coastline for the population they have without doing that
>>70468090
Because Muhammad's (piss be upon him) neighbors were dumb niggers who spent all their time fighting tribe vs tribe, and Islam has in it the concept of a political unity under one religion, as opposed to tribalism.
>>70469667
>He could have any of them executed if he so chose. How much different is that from sharia?
there were courts of law not screaming neckbeards for one, also the state Religion had no say in laws made by the Senate for another
if your in Iran and the Ayatolla screams for your head, you are going to have about 77 million durka durkas raining down on you within 5 minutes of it being decreed without a trial
>>70468090
If the degenerate West is so shit, why do sandnigger hordes are so eager to live here?
>>70469720
>>70469752
>>70469765
Tfw /pol/ is and always has been the real /his/.
>>70469886
Wait, oh fuck, I misread you post, well, I am outta here, fuck y'all
>>70468314
I watched hellsing friend, I would have you know that they are protestants. Every dirty last one of them. :^)
>>70469691
It's so expensive that it would be impossible for them. They'd have to desalinate ocean water at an unprecedented scale. Even with all the money Saudi has, they've never been able to "green the desert" in a reliable or sustainable way.
>>70469963
/his/ is full of redditards unfortunately.
>>70469933
I actually like the Romans and appreciate all the things they've given us but that's not really different from proscription. How do you think Cicero died?
>>70468090
Killing niggers in africa ins't hard when you have forged metals
>>70470139
he started shit and he lost; one of two paths in the circle of life, the other being is where you win
>>70469924
the irony is that he managed to unite them long enough to kill the jewish tribe living close to them and seized the cube from them, which originally was a temple dedicated to Abraham
Yeah, and then muslims started secularising and became weak. Only now when people have taken religion seriously again have they become strong again, now they are the strongest power. Not militarily at the moment, but ideologically Islam surpasses anything else by leaps and bounds.
The winners joins up, and the losers look at Islam winning.
>>70470216
There have never been niggers in North Africa. We should draw the maps so that it's made more evident to people that the desert is an actual geographical barrier.
>>70470301
You don't know the history. Jews did not have power over the Kaaba, it was controlled by the pagan Quiraysh tribe. Jews had nothing to do with the Kaabaa even if Abraham build it.
>>70470406
ah yes, I mixed up their names
but iirc they still went there and managed to convert the locals and king of yemen to judaism after saying abraham built it
>>70468090
Their superior predecessors, The Persian Empire, followed Zoroastrianism instead of islam and knew how to build shit.
After Alexander's conquests, most of the smart Persians fled to Greece, like educated black doctors who fled the ghettos, and left Persia with trash.
The Persians and the Byzantines wore themselves out from decades of tit-for-tat bitchfighting so the Arabs had a free pass to fuck shit up. In any other context the Arabs would have have gotten their shit pushed in and Islam would be less remembered know than Manichaeism.
>>70468090
It is easier to rule over niggers and sandniggers, than over free willed nordic people, and celtic or german "barbaric" tribes, and an other ancient civilisation the greeks.
>>70468090
yeah, U mayyad.
>>70470828
>Persians fled to Greece
The royal family fled to China and tried to get the support of the Tang dynasty to launch a counterattack while a group of them joined up with the Byzantines only to end up stabbed in the back.
>>70468314
This, I'm an Atheist but this whole "Christianity killed the empire" thing is total horseshit. The Roman Empire was already in full decline by the time they adopted Christianity.
To be totally honest, I'd say Christianity probably saved the Roman Empire from total collapse.
>>70470050
Well, yeah. The mods are SJWs who ban anyone that disagrees with their political ideology.
>>70471186
I take back my post, didn't see it said Alexanders conquest, which still doesn't make any sense.
Since Greece back then was the ones colonizing shit and building new cities all over the ME like Antioch and Alexandria.
>>70468791
This anon-kun
http://www.history.com/shows/ancient-aliens
the further you go back, the more aliens their are.
>>70469906
>NatSoc
>Population booms
>Terra-form the inner regions
>Australia is the new undisputed global super power
>>70468090
Disregard all the useless pissass desert and that territory shrinks quite a bit.
>>70471582
watch these historical documents disguised as a tv show.
>>70468173
FPBP
>>70468314
No, it really wasn't. The British Empire was the only major empire that didn't try to convert any natives and more or less left all its subjects alone from a religious standpoint. There's a reason why India is 2% Christian after 300 years of British rule, and most of those Christians are St. Thomas Christians who arrived 1900 years ago and Northeast Indians who were converted by American missionaries.
>>70468090
Because it rose to power when the roman empire fell and grew thanks to the weakness of eastern and north african residents and the dilapidation of their societies infrastructure after said fall?
Try harder next time Abdullasim Ibn-Kiwii
>>70471397
Indeed, Christianity didnt doom the Roman empire, too many barbarian mercenaries with zero ties to Rome and asshole, power hungry generals doomed the Roman empires.
>>70468950
R A R E
didn't the american indians colonize everything around that time.
>>70471789
>power hungry generals doomed the Roman empires.
I cannot emphasise how loud my "THIS" is
>tfw too much multiculturalism is what brought down the empire
>>70471698
only the center of saudi, and the south of north africa, still more
>>70468090
too bad the entire thing broke apart about 200 years in and ended up like this
>>70468173
Dibs bedora :^)
That's sand, not clay my friend
>>70469510
>>Christianity had nothing to do with it.
>Internal persecutions and religious strife had nothing to do with the collapse of the roman empire.
This is as stupid as the people who claim that christianity had nothing to do with it.
>>70468314
The british empire was in no way christian in anything other then a strictly nominal sense of the term. It was a profit making enterprise from start to finish, and any positive benefits were secondary at best.
I keep forgetting 4ch*n is down so all these loser neo-pagans migrated here.
* being and O
>>70470029
Because they spend all their money on weapons and promoting wahhabism all over the world.
Muh it was only sand. It is not like the Caliphate rekted all the superpowers of his era ( bizantines,persians an chinese yes look it up).
They had a superior military thus they won point.
Even Rome was sacked and the pope had to pay tribute
>>70472710
>Neo-pagan faggot depicted wearing NatSoc symbols
I'm triggered, I don't want to be associated with those raging morons.
>>70473025
I know mate, but they are. They don't even know what Hitler himself said about them and their ilk.
>>70472244
How did Shia managed to lose all that clay to Sunni?
>>70472710
This is incredibly stupid. The only reason why there weren't africans fucking every white woman in europe after rome collapsed was due to the dramatic reduction in trade. Christianity has never being a "racialist" religion and it is very hard to interpret it in that fashion.
>>70472710
christiannity is anti racist, if an ethiopean man wants to marry your white daugther you have to let him
>>70473213
The eternal roach
>>70472540
>>This is as stupid as the people who claim that christianity had everything to do with it.
Whoops, fixed.
>>70469691
>Why australia doesnt try to forest the desert?
Seriously, what in the Blue Fuck... Hilarious. I give up!
>>70468090
Because they invaded after Whites and persians just finished a long ass depleting war and the plague killed off a third of the White population. Now you know.
>>70473273
No I don't. Saint Paul said a person who does wrong by his own people is worse than an infidel, i.e. garbage like you. To dilute my race is a wrongdoing.
>>70473091
To be honest any religious person who identifies as national socialist is just ignorant. Had Germany won the war the Reich would have become an atheistic state with the nation and the fuhrer as its only "religion".
>>70473467
Yeah dude? Jesus himself had very little say about races and quite a bit to say about followers of his teachings. There is no "racial" component to christianity, that's part of the point of the religion and why ethiopia was converted, why arabia was in the process of being converted before mohammed showed up and why there were christians as far afield as China way back when.
>>70473412
Arabs were outnumbered in all their battles.
Anfd if the bizantines were s strong why didn't they manage to get their land back once they recovered.
Ah but they did and got shitslapped in return.
Hagia soph...I mean the Blue mosquee is a magnificient momument of Islam now
>>70470406
It's almost guaranteed that the Kaba had ZERO tradition of Abraham before ole Mo heard about him. The perv just tacked the Hebrew stuff onto his cult 'cos it claimed an impressive antiquity and had fancy looking books to lend it extra venerability. I doubt the Arabs knew anything of "Ibrahim" at all before this.
>>70468090
I dont believe they were unified, they may have been all muslim but they werent under the same caliphate
>>70473273
Modernist leftist interpenetration.
In traditionalism Christianity, man has to ask father for consent to propose. Your daughter doesn't marry anyone you don't approve of.
>>70468090
why the fuck does Whitby get a mention?
>>70473755
>Arabs were outnumbered in all their battles.
Sure, if you believe the arab sources.
>And if the bizantines were s strong why didn't they manage to get their land back once they recovered.
Internal infighting and the the fourth crusade skullfucked them.
>Ah but they did and got shitslapped in return.
See above.
>Hagia soph...I mean the Blue mosquee is a magnificient momument of Islam now
Turkey will either be a jihadist infested warzone or part of a greater russian federation in 50 years time, so they should enjoy it while they can.
>>70473755
>Arabs were outnumbered in all their battles.
I know muds lie like jews but come on, you're not even trying.
>once they recovered.
They didn't.
>>70473467
>>70474010
There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
if hes a nice man, good job but hes black christian, you cant say fuck off, racism is wrong in your religion
>>70473755
>Belgium
>>70468314
That is true desu.
Protestanism is what led to the birth of the great Empire.
This is why I am a Protestant and not a Catholic. Catholics follow the heretic Pope who is the most massive cuckhold on the planet.
>>70468090
>empty desert
>good clay
>>70469847
silly frog
>>70474078
>>70474103
Well,
Khalid ibn walid was always outnumbered
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ullais
>>70474056
It concerns itself with religious history, largely, and there was the important Synod there, of course. Is a bit odd, though, I grant you.
>>70474078
>>70474103
Bizantine sources concur with the arab ones
Look and weep
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Yarmouk
>>70468173
Rome was in decline during Augustus' reign.
>but muh land
It was only via moral decay and decadence that Augustus was able to come to power.
>>70474250
a rapeugee on pol.
>>70473755
>medieval mudslime sources
even al-tabari states that during their attempted conquest of ERE territories that the byzantines were so depleted on manpower that farmers were forced to fight
so they were literally fighting peasants, which would explain why the arabs only ruled for around 200 years before everything broke apart and they had to rely on fucking turks to pick up the pieces
>>70468090
Owning niggerville isn't an achievement.
>>70468090
Some people see a lot of land gained
Others see a lot of land lost
That is why they are shit
>>70468950
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>>70474567
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Yarmouk
allow me to retort with the old mohamad pig argument
>>70468090
You try and stop a plague of locusts when 1/3 of your population is dead from plague. The Justinian Plague killed 1 in 3 humans in the Byzantine and Persian Empires. Islam sprung up in the right time at the right place to steamroll across a weakened, depopulated Christendom.
>>70474715
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ullais
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Yarmouk
And the arab armies consisted of herders and bedouins.
The roman sources concur with the arab ones as I said and all armies at the time consisted of peasants standing armies were not a thing yet.
I don't know why you try to downplay the impressive feat of such an extended caliphate in a few decades.
I bet if Muhammad was a german you would find all he did impressive.
>>70474770
30 percent of the population of the known world is quite the achievement (Iberia,Egypt Persia and Mesopotamia were all extremely rich and relevant places
>>70468090
It's easy to rule over empty desert and steppe
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>>70471186
>fled to China
wut. They fled to India where the sacred flame of the Zoroastrians still burns to this day.
>>70475270
There is a difference in the sorts of herding done by Bedouins and Romans. Bedouins were nomadic while the Romans were not so much.
>>70474926
Being slaves to turks made serbs bitter.
And it is funny that serbs were only relevant when they were taken as janissaries or when they kill someone important.
>>70475105
They rekt all the superpowers at the time when being outnumbered.
One can deduce that Allah was with them
>>70468090
Cause they are sandniggers. Sandniggers gonna nig.
>>70468090
Most of it was sand that nothing lived in other than useless creatures and then there were insects too. It's like Russia and Siberia, virtually nothing lives in Siberia.
>>70475270
It's not downplaying to point out attacking very weak opponent isn't impressive.
>>70468090
Read about Ali Pasha telling the Ottomans to suck it. Read about the Hajj being regularly raided -- raided! -- by Muslim ghazzi, with the kniwledge of the Sultan and local shaykhs, and they pretty much tolerated it. Muslim "control" exists on paper maps because Europeans run out of time explaining all the exceptions.
>>70475639
When you are even weaker it is.
>>70475501
>One can deduce that Allah was with them
If you're shite at deduction, or just basic logical thought, sure.
They did impressive stuff at one point - Allah.
They do crap at another time - oh, er, um, never mind.
Intelligent objective people with sense can obviously see that they came at precisely the right time to achieve what they did. Not "chance" exactly, but fortuitous circumstances.
But intelligent objective people won't be around much longer at the present rate, aye.
>>70475501
>rekt superpowers
The Byzantines and Persians were weakened from being at war with each other during the Lazic War. Then the Justinian Plague decimated both Empires levies and standing garrisons. As I said, Islam sprung up in the right place at the right time.
>>70475270
Literally a bunch of Zulu's in canoes coming up the persian gulf would have achieved the same thing cause the people were tired of both sides while the persians were at pretty much civil-war cause of the attempt of usurption of the throne and a weak viceroy as ruler.
Places in Mesopotamia, Syria and Egypt surrendered without a fight cause they were tired of the old rulers overtaxation and had no problem with the muslim taxation-laws and rulership.
Now instead of a bunch tribals willing to die for their faith you know had a bunch of tribals willing to die for their faith using the old Persian government system to keep everyone in check, which helped them expand their territories easily into Byzantine/Iberia until the shia and sunni split became a real thing.
>>70474194
You're literally a retarded cuck.
http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVanswers/2003/2003-12-02.htm
>>70475916
>Zulu's in canoes
Imagine black Africans being able to build a decent seaworthy boat! ))))
>>70475270
>all armies at the time consisted of peasants standing armies were not a thing yet.
Also, this is false since the Byzantines had fucking standing armies (look up the The Imperial tagmata) while the Persians used a feudal system similar to Medieval Europe were noblemen would fight when called upon by the King in return for lands and titles.
>>70468314
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
DELETE THIS
YOU ARE A BAD GOY
NO!!!
>>70475831
I was joking lad I'm not religious at all but I'm still an arab so I want people to recognize merit where it is due.
Your people should know that it was quite a feat to defeat us.Prove is that it took you 800 years to reclaim land that we took in 10.
But all of it is history and the tides have turned and will turn again and again.
>>70475916
The arabs were outnumbered all the same.The romans and the persians tryed to stop them with their less huge ut neverless huge armies against them and lost.
It is a feat
>>70476241
Last time a serb tried to banter.pic related
Fuck this, let's save Europe.
>>70476301
So you mean that the bizantines and the persians had FUCKING STANDING ARMIES and they lost against the arabs who were just a bunch of fanatic camelherders?
Impressive those arabs!
>>70475456
Thats the Pars locals that fled after the conquest.
The royal family fled to China during the conquest and established a minor state there with the people that followed them.
>>70475823
They weren't. Again, a third of the population dead, depleted manpower resources after a prolonged war. These are THE factors of how muds swept through.
>>70468090
Cause shit gets everywhere.
>>70476680
No, because if you actually followed the discussion we had from earlier and had the capacity to memorize things longer than a goldfish then you would realize that I was replying to your post about the battles being basically "farmers vs farmers" when in reality it was "farmers that have never picked up a sword vs bloodthirsty tribal bandits".
Again, Zulues in canoes combined with the strenght of those extinct philipines midgets would have probably made a bigger empire that would have lasted longer.
>>70476929
They were OUTNUMBERED all the same.
You think the arabs were numerous ( they ie in abarren desert so no they ere few) or didn't suffer from the plague when they lived in the same areas?
The conditions were still unfavorable for the arabs and they won.
You don't control half the known world by chance
>>70468090
if greatness was just a matter of amount of clay then the united states would own at least half of the land in the world
>>70468314
Their religion hardly guided their policies, though.
>>70476544
Muslims are truly the worst gentiles
>>70477152
Or you could read the strategies employed by one of the best general the world has ever seen?
Khalid Ibn el walid.
He never lost 1 battle. It wasn't anyone who could do it, only the arabs at the time could because the prophet knew how to find people of talent
>>70477277
if greatness was just a matter of amount of clay then this guy would take a dump on everyone while smirking
>>70475501
turk-roach detected.
> WE WUZ OTTOMANS AND SHIT
>>70477468
No one deny his greatness and he is indeed one of the greatest man in history.
son of a disgraced tribal chief, he achieved to gain the control of all the mongolian tribes and of the greatest land empire in history.
>>70477223
>( they ie in abarren desert so no they ere few)
Again, your troll lying is really bad, or you're really this ignorant. The policy of convert or die swelled the ranks. After mudhammad croaked, the "converted" were "thanks but thanks we're going back to being persians, etc.," the new mudlaw said oh no you're not, proceeded to kill 10k of them until they decided, oh, we think we now like the idea of continuing to be muds.
>>70468090
Arabia and northern Africa were worthless for like 7,000 years or whenever the fertile crescent ended until 1938 when oil was discovered there
also their only architectural achievements are mosques and their lasting cultural impression on the world is one language and an actual rape culture
>>70477223
BS. the Justinian plague and the Byzantine–Sasanian War of 602–628 has completely depleted both of these empires, and the Arabs wisely took advantage of it. they took over remnants of once great empires that were too stupid to fight each other for hundreds of years.
>>70477663
Frankly these pictures don't offend me I ve seen worse and as I ve said before I m not religious
>>70468090
Most of that is fucking empty desert.
3/10 would not empire with.
>>70468090
That's not clay, it's sand and it's not worth a shit.
>>70477429
I actually have no problem with Walid as a general not just for the fact that he managed to keep arabs united long enough to fight for the same cause but some of the clutched battles that I can agree with makes sense.
He is still second class compared to ol'Subotai.
>>70471186
>Fled to byzantines
>600 years before the byzantine empire existed.
Haha dude what.
>>70477693
The Calpihate was majority non muslim for a fucking long time so no.
It disproves your theory.
>>70477732
They were still stronger than the arab tribes. The arab general was just smarter read the links i provided before
Roman sources tell that the arabs were outnumbered heavily.
>>70478078
see
>>70471485
I acknowledged my mistake maple-kun
>>70478029
I agree Subutai is on another level.
He was a monster.
>>70477468
He is the greatest. One of the greatest men to ever live. Also a wrecker of Muslims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_conquest_of_Khwarezmia
>>70478137
The Arabs had the same advantage as many other non-settled people. They were attached to their horses and made to work. The peoples they invaded were all either depleted, decadent, or both.
>>70478324
Kek never saw that one
>>70478137
>The Calpihate was majority non muslim for a fucking long time so no.
You suck at reading comprehension too.
>persians, etc.
>etc.
>It disproves your theory.
>theory
>mine
kek.
>>70468090
>not knowing that abu'bahkar conquerd the Byzantine and other
>not even read about hoe utmahr got full on jew
>not even ali was going to pick that shit up again
It has faild by existing in the first place, the first Islamic terrorist group was formed not even 60years after the spreading of Islam to africa and beyond saudi arabian borders
Atleast try
>>70478137
You are only arguing with yourself. this is the accepted scholastic consensus and no amount of taqiyah is going to change that.
>Neither empire was given much chance to recover, as within a few years they were struck by the onslaught of the Arabs, newly united by Islam,[153] which Howard-Johnston likened to "a human tsunami".[154] According to George Liska, the "unnecessarily prolonged Byzantine–Persian conflict opened the way for Islam".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine%E2%80%93Sasanian_War_of_602%E2%80%93628#Long-term_consequences
> The arab general was just smarter read the links i provided before
Heraclius didn't even attend the battle as he fell sick. some guy named Vahan was in charge.
>>70478542
It doesn't disprove the fact that were they outnumbered like the sources I provided tell us.
They were not at thir strongest but it doesn't cange the fact that a cat took down two lions.
>>70478899
Being out numbered doesn't mean shit. The Russians out numbered the Germans in WWI but the Germans had the better army.
>>70478899
Now see, this is better trolling, switching back to your previous goal post after losing here, and it might even work if you weren't on pol.
>>70479117
I never denied that tey were weakened. Read again.
>>70479099
Remind who won in the end?
>>70479551
>I never denied that tey were weakened.
Nice try, the reference is to the numbers, which is what your lie/denial is all about.
>>70479551
Not the Russians.
>>70480005
I said That even weakened Persia and The bizantines were much stronger in numbers and in technique than the arabs.
How is it wrong?
>>70479099
christendom had both depleted skill and numbers from war and plague.
>>70480106
Guess that Half of germany wasn't uder communist rule until the 90's.
My bad.
>>70480232
They weren't stronger.
>>70480297
Yes, I know.
>>70480326
That was the second World War, you dumb moon kike.
>>70474258
If protestantism is so great why are protestant countries so cucked?
>>70480419
Truly my bad this time.Didn't read well an don't know much about the first world war so let's say you are right.
>>70480418
They were and they lost.
The cat brought down two lions and the cubs weep and curse the crafty cat.
>>70468950
Literally what country is that. I'm honestly curious
>>70468090
Native americans used to run 2 fucking continents and got btfo. Previous land mass ownership does not determine the quality of the indian.
>>70480865
Dude, why are you still posting?
>>70480768
This isn't a jew propaganda outlet where repeating your lie "talking point" will make it true.
>>70481067
Denying the evidence repeatedly doesn't change the facts.
I know /pol/ is an echo chamber but come oooooon
>>70481261
Serbian guy, I swear I'm not a turk or an alanian/bosnian.
I'm from a people completely unrelated to you.
>>70480493
Because he's talking shit
>>70481392
it's almost prayer time Mohammed
>>70468090
>more clay
>literally thousands of miles of useless desert
>>70470828
Worst post in this thread.
Fucking embarrassment. Use a proxy next time.
>>70468090
Because the middle east is mostly sand and rocks.
