Why is there such a big push to get kids into STEM?
STEM graduates, even from top-ranking universities, face great difficulty finding jobs, yet governments keep pushing STEM on kids.
What is going on here?
>>70447860
>le STEM has difficulty finding jobs meme
t. Pajeet who graduated from University of Literally Where with a 2.0 GPA and no internship experience
>>70448769
You forget how unemployable a large number of stem is
>>70449861
TE is highly employable SM far less so.
I didn't go to college until I was 25. All my friends with liberal arts degrees can't find jobs and my military and tech school friends are employed. So I went with a BS.
>>70449861
better than fucking gender studies
>>70447860
>STEM graduates, even from top-ranking universities, face great difficulty finding jobs, yet governments keep pushing STEM on kids.
>What is going on here?
The government doesn't understand supply and demand, and thinks we can use meme degrees to make every single citizen a doctor and lawyer and that this will mean big bucks for everyone through taxation.
Yes, they are that stupid. Spend some time at your local politics level and you will understand why democracy is a failure.
>tfw going to get into Genetic Engineering
Is that technically STEM? It doesn't seem to be considered so by some sources.
>>70450892
>STEM
>STEngineeringM
It falls under bioengineering.
>>70447860
Keeps the STEM Indians and Asians out of a job. Then they have to move home or to the States and can leave us alone.
>>70451066
Yeah but when I was researching that shit, a lot of the sources classified it either as medicine or other shit for some reason. No clue why.
Its just like when your highschool was pushing everyone to become teachers 10 years ago. its a meme trend give it 10 years and trades will be the next big thing
>>70451143
Bioengineering has a lot in common with medicine. As does biomechanical engineering.
>>70451226
As does biomedical*
>>70451213
Trades are already saturated, the next big thing is programming "muh 1 month bootcamp start at google making 120k"
Be grateful schools aren't pushing gender studies.... Have a feeling it's coming tho
>>70451305
nah, next big thing will be truck drivers.
>>70447860
Almost everyone with a bachelors is having difficulty finding jobs matching the level of their degree. STEM grads are far better off both in terms of finding jobs, and in their starting and mid-career salaries.
>>70447860
>STEM graduates, even from top-ranking universities, face great difficulty finding jobs
only CS cucks, because indians can do their job for like $20 per month or something.
All other STEM degrees are very employable.
>>70451324
Most liberal high schools push their leftist bullshit onto the students already.
I'm required to take an ethnic studies course (which also covers some gender issues).
>>70447860
>What is going on here?
Part of the egalitarianism myth that everybody is capable of becoming a scientist when it's simply not true.
you're pretty much guaranteed a job if you graduate with a degree in clinical laboratory science. so there's that.
Studied comp sci at Iowa (a literally who school for comp sci) and got a job within 2 weeks of graduating for 72k and I didn't even do an internship anywhere.
>>70447860
Here in the Netherlands each year about 1200 people graduate with a masters degree in engineering. The company ASML needs about 1000 higly educated engineers. Even though they spend huge amounts of money to fill those applications with Dutch graduates, they only get less than 500. So they have to import engineers from South Europe, Eastern Europe, South-East Asia, Russia, India and even South America.
However if you study social studies you are likely unemployed. It would just make sense to push people get a degree which would provide a job.
That feel when got a job because I'm ex Army and the manager who interviewied me was ex Army too.
Basically the only person on site with a degree is some 5ft2 skanky slut who works in the admin office.
haters gonna hate.
>>70447860
>push to get kids into STEM
Tech companies do this as a way to inflate the number of people with STEM degrees, thus crowding the field of possible employees, and driving down wages.
>>70447860
>get paid to become a science
I want to be a science. When will shitposting be an acceptable STEM degree?
>>70447860
I think the confusion is about bachelor vs master.
Bachelor = just the introduction, not ready for the work force.
Master = the actual degree.
>>70451562
Truck drivers will be replaced by selfdriving cars within ten years.
>>70452392
Shitposting is a art.
And it will always be a art.
>>70447860
If you're not going to study something godlike like medicine you might as well go learn a trade.
Stem is a joke.
>>70451081
Except if you go to any university all the STEM programs are filled with Chinese/Indians and all the white kid's are in social science programs.
>>70452444
That totally varies depending on country, here the overwhelming majority of skilled workers do not do postgraduate study
>>70452599
Does that mean I can go to a liberal arts college and shitpost about all the SJWs for science?
>>70452700
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>>70452143
Ex Guards here, found exactly the same.
>>70452700
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>>70447860
>face great difficulty finding jobs
Compared to who?
>>70452700
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>>70452700
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>>70452700
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>>70452723
And then most businesses are still run by whites, who prefer not to stink up the place with curry.
I don't know where this "no jobs for STEM" meme comes from. I graduated with an engineering degree 5 years ago and I was unemployed for 2 months total in that time. Started at 40k salary, now up to 70k.
Just stay away from the S and the M part of STEM. Engineering is the best hope you young anons have in life.
>>70447860
>mexican intellectual
your forgetting that most majors being pushed in college are useless to begin with, because these majors have the highest profit margins and lowest costs (eg lib arts)
why is it that every other STEM faggot these days is doing some bullshit comp sci or mechanical engineering, while there are lackluster supply in fields like petroleum engineering or nuclear engineering?
even look at the business schools:
>everyone is useless business major
>accounting is marketed as the "best paying job field", yet requires no creativity and will never yield the country's next brilliant businesses and entreprenuers
>there is literally a entrepreneur major....you get a piece of paper to be your own boss
>meanwhile, finance (outside of like the top 20 target schools) and economics, both with heavy applied skills that, low and behold, a majority of fortune 500 owners possessed during their times, are the smallest usually
>>70452700
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>>70453052
Most tech startups in Toronto are started by students coming out of university and they're mostly Asians, I really doubt someone studying psychology is going to setup a business, lol.
>>70453142
>Cypriot intellectual
The only reason why you faggots can't find a job in STEM is because your school sucks. Everyone knows that companies want experienced workers, that's why you take a goddamn internship during the summer when you are studying. It gives you the experience necessary to find a job once you're done with school. I literally don't know anyone here who didn't find a job after finishing school in any STEM related field.
Besides, if you are going to university, you should always go to a STEM program. You can't possibly believe that you have more chance to find a job with an arts or music degree than a STEM degree.
Fuck it all
Why do you faggots wanna keep this hamster wheel of insanity running? Put down the book and get ready to fight
>>70447860
STEM should really change their thing to TEMM (technology, engineering, mathematics, and medicine) since that's what pays. Most science majors don't pay well and some may argue math doesn't have too many positions available either unless it deals with physics and engineering.
>>70452599
Sometimes science is more art than science. It can be misleading.
>>70453142
Can you use your banks yet?
I am SE about to graduate with a 2.8 GPA. I have no internships. I write low level asm and C for fun and have completed projects od the same level. How do I get a job?
>>70448769
1) You're using data specifically from MIT about MIT graduates. 2.0 pajeet probably not going to MIT.
2) Did you take into account the cost of living? Those salaries may be a lot in rural/suburban areas but they really aren't that great in major metropolitan ones (which state or territory you're in will also come into play i.e. taxes).
3) Union drywall finishers, depending on their location, can make a 75k a year. And that's from three years serving as a paid apprentice as opposed to going to an ivy league school for 4+ years and potentially racking up buku debt.
>>70454790
showcase your projects and don't mention GPA unless they specifically ask for it.
I have an IT degree and make $20/hr in help desk. So it really does lead to success and high paying jobs.
>>70451324
Actually schools should seriously drop sex ed and make it a mix between the very basics of sex and how to get a gf/bf and what makes a good keeper.
Because kids these days think that having a bookshelf on naruto and having greasy as fuck hair can make a good boyfriend. And a lot of girls think being a sexy cunt is all that matters when really I want someone to bake me food and cuddle.
"Gender studies" but really just relationships and how to form interpersonal relationships, it sounds like a good investment for the future when you think about the failing family unit.
>>70454790
>2.8
you become a barista at starbucks
>>70455131
I spent my time writing code and learning new stuff rather than doing homework and studying. :(
STEAM wages are stagnant you push more kids into STEM in order to stagnate and/or lower wages so Zuckerberg has even cheaper labor
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/the-bogus-high-tech-worker-sho/
>>70455283
*STEM
>>70447860
STEMbro here. didn't have any trouble finding a decent paying job ($70k) and i was middle of my class and smoked a ton of pot and partied in college. i was also in probably the easiest STEM major, civil engineering.
>>70452700
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>>70455339
STEM shortage is a myth in order to flood the market with cheaper labor
http://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/education/the-stem-crisis-is-a-myth
What trade/degree/job do you guys have?
Wagecucking is for suckers. Either be an entrepreneur/merchant or embrace asceticism.
>>70455447
>counting soft ""sciences""
>>70452700
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>>70452700
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>>70455393
Is that with a 4-year degree?
Dammit Chemists seem to get paid so little in comparison, but I like what I get to do anyways.
>>70447860
>STEM graduates, even from top-ranking universities, face great difficulty finding jobs
My two cousins went into STEM, one into Mechanical and the other into Informatics engineering.
They got a job before graduating, one of them even cancelled his course halfway because the job he got payed so well.
This is Portugal, a country with huge unemployment.
>>70455447
Check my OC
>>70452700
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>>70452700
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>>70452700
GET PAID PUPPER
>>70452362
I can understand the desire to do this. Tech workers are overpaid.
>>70452700
get paid pupper
>largest majors at my university are forestry/botany
>nothing but smug liberals trying to personally save the planet
>get the same response whenever I tell one about my CS major
>"eww, that sounds boring"
>personally know people that haven't found work after years with their forestry degree that are going for a second forestry degree
>mfw leaving my math class and they're literally counting the leaves on plants
These are the people complaining about a lack of STEM jobs.
>>70452700
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>>70452700
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>>70451143
because a lot of bioengineering is engineering shit for the medical field whether it be devices, implants, etc etc so they work very closely with medicine
majoring in stem will not get rid of your autism
you will still have trouble finding a job and you will most likely end up underpaid and alone
>>70451143
Genetic engineering falls under biomedical sciences because it involves tampering with living creatures(no synthetic materials used), unlike biomedical engineering in the Novi Sad University, which involves making artificial upgrades to living creatures(prosthetics, artificial heart valves, etc.)
University of Belgrade med student here
>>70452700
get paid pupper
>>70452700
get paid pupper
Just get a job in the medical field. There's a huge nurse shortage in America. Physician's Assistants is becoming more competitive though. People will always need doctors and nurses, so its great job security
>>70452700
get paid pupper
>>70458101
Paramedic -> PA is where it's at. You can get paramedic paid for depending on your department and then move on to PA while working since
>24 hour work on/off
>>70447860
STEM is where creative smart people need to go to for future science/technology industries.
Women and Gender studies does nothing to support the economy, science, engineering, medicine, do.
>>70456841
This. I know people that switched from hard sciences or medical to another life science because it was easier. Bad choice. It's sad because you hear people deliberating about it with friends before classes.
>>70447860
We've been told since 2008 to go into STEM field, were still told about that before the recession as well.
>>70458101
Ha ibm's Watson and Japan's robots would like to disagree.
>>70451213
>>70451305
>>70451562
There is a teacher shortage now, at least in California
STEM for the most part is a meme, besides CS/Engineering. Im a CS major and go to an average uni with a 3.7 and had companies throwing themselves at me to intern with them. 18 y/o and have an internship starting in summer for $30/hr at a F50. Stay mad non CS/eng fags.
>>70458643
Why do people think the only majors in college are either STEM or Women Studies?
Where did this polarized perception come from?
>>70452700
get paid pupper
>>70447860
Tuition.
>>70459025
>history
gender studies
>art
gender studies
>materials science
>STEM
>business
gender studies
>electrical engineering
STEM
>communications
gender studies
>sociology
gender studies
>environmental science
gender studies
do you get it yet?
>>70455501
None, I'm basic blue collar factory worker for now, after that gonna search some new shit to do.
I'm no smart dude so going to uni would be just waste of time for me.
Hell if I get a job that pays enough to get me an apartment at one point and gets me through monthly with some money for savings I'd be happy with that.
>>70458909
Japan robots are not "caring", but would scare patients as shit because of uncanny valley effect
>>70452474
A post saying exactly this was first posted 23 years ago.
Going into old school STEM isn't the problem.
The problem is you fucking idiots keep stuffing everything under the STEM umbrella, including all the shitty should-not-be-STEM subjects. Even sociology is in there now, for fuck's sake.
Basically if you get a degree in a subject that existed 100 years ago, you're good to go - physics, engineering, chemistry, mathematics etc. Anything else and you're rolling the fucking dice. Even CS doesn't really count at lower levels as it's ostensibly a vocational qualification - a skillset that Pajeets can pick up quickly.
>>70459452
>letting Pajeet do anything important
Asking for a disaster.
You can pay a cleaner very little for an important job, because lots of people know how to clean.
I wonder what would happen to the wages of STEM field workers if lots of people had those skills...
>>70459706
Is the issue not that Pajeet's code is shit, so companies often have to hire whites to fix it?
>>70453885
As much as the Krauts have been fucking up lately, I agree with this one.
t Anonymous American
>>70447860
STEM jobs pay well, businesses hate paying employees well because it is a business cost that impacts profit, more STEM folks = lower wages because of supply.
This is the same reason women are now in the workforce, immigration is 1,000,000 per year, and H1B Visas are being pushed.
>this method does not improve the quality of the STEM grads
>it waters down the profession and creates education inflation
>suddenly companies need employees with 10+ years experience and masters degrees to do basic design engineering
So, while I love the idea of fostering a love of math and science, if it isn't your cup of tea, for fucks sake get a degree in something else instead of chasing a quickly disappearing pay check.
>Chemical Engineer, 12 years experience, Technical Manager at a production plant
>>70459706
Basically. It's also fine to cross paths in that manner as well- things like Biomedical Engineering (mine) have plenty of spots.
>also being grill helps, using the system yeah!
>>70460009
The problem is that Computer Science at its undergraduate level is basically a technical vocation - a skillset. It's like being a plumber or a carpenter but it's not something that's massively difficult, which is why the market is saturated and the reason why people call STEM a meme - because CS grads can't get jobs.
The reality is it's not really 'STEM' in the true sense of STEM. People with physics degrees, for example, aren't struggling to get jobs nor are engineers. Why? Because those subjects are difficult and those people can't just be replaced by Pajeets.
Not all subjects under the STEM banner are equal. Don't be dissuaded from studying a proper STEM subject just because some CS fag's job is being outsourced to a poo-in-the-loo.
>>70453142
>mexico
>white
how accurate
>>70447860
the job market in general is very rough for recent graduates
STEM grads just do relatively better by a large margin, especially with degrees in engineering, compsci, and some of the sciences.
Don't forget that STEM includes a lot of 'noble academic' content that, in our economy, mostly lends itself to public research
>>70452700
get paid pupper
>>70460467
moar plz
>>70454790
>>70455252
dude, my GPA was 2.01 .
if you ace the interview, it's no big deal. it's the retard please-walk-me-through-everything-holy-crap-isnt-scheme-interesting big-name school idiots that have trouble. it's all about the interview. don't list your GPA on your resume.
GPA is just for companies to know that you are a good goy. if you want a challenging job, they won't care about that.
t. math&compsci java/C developer
>>70460580
I won't. I'm already going into electrical engineering and through that into biomedical.
>>70459602
Difference is that we actually have working prototypes today and that it has already happened in some roadlines. All that is left is the legal process and to start massproducing. Every major car company is in on it as well as Google, Apple and Microsoft. Hundreds of billions of dollars within the last five years.
You think all those roadsigns on reCaptcha is just for fun?
>>70460693
Nah. No compelling argument.
>>70460009
I'm a white, American software engineer and I can confirm that 75% of my job is cleaning up or redoing curry code or ping pong bing bong code.
It is what it is. The giant pile of money I sleep on softens the blow.
>>70455447
>>70456360
Looks like the only option is to get on the autismbux
>>70460693
its a fucking pair of moobs m8
>>70461408
>>70459242
What about foreign language? My cousin is currently teaching ESL in China for six figures, and I'm currently double-majoring in classics/chinese; the job market looks pretty good here.
oversupplying the stem market is the last needed effort to breaking the middle class.
Its one of the few fields where you can rather easily produce oversupply and where wages are high enough to supply a middle class life.
>>70461829
I hope to god you are a guy because that would just be unfortunate if you are a female
>>70450383
That's not saying anything. Anything in the humanities is a mememajor.
>>70460467
Why are girls so slutty
>>70461829
That's fucking gross. You owe all of us an apology
>>70461829
do you wash that shit at all slut ?
>>70455339
When will they learn?
>>70460467
>>70461829
Respect for delivering tits. Good luck in your career.
>>70461829
would slap
>>70447860
Its pushed so companies can have cheap labor,
because Stem doesn't educate you, it just turns you into a well trained worke, and because allot of stupid people believe it and pass it on.
>>70460580
I never understood why they don't make their own apps or programs in their down time, build a profile and try to get hired
>>70450383
>gender studies and other liberal arts shit
They don't want people taking shit like this. They know what it does to people.
>>70461829
>>70452143
I worked at a carwash for a while too.
>>70452700
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>>70452700
Get Paid Pupper
>>70447860
Big companies are pushing the STEM meme to try to tip the supply:demand ratio to their favour. In other words, they want an excuse to pay people less money for the same work.
>>70453328
No creativity in accounting?
Someone never did taxes before.
>>70460580
>CS grads can't get jobs
Where does this happen? I was a below average student and I landed a comfy programming job straight out of school. IT companies are literally the only companies that are constantly hiring around the year.
>>70462852
That propably is a valid route in countries where you have to donate half of your inner organs to get a common degree. CS is still much more than just programming.
>>70462657
Thanks mate. I'll try to look less frump in subsequent pics.
>>70462412
Mmm, now you know why pretty bras were made. We can't all be pornstars.
>>70462567
It's a matter of attention. It's inevitable responses, even if it's negative.
>>70462615
Sorry m8, not sorry. Most girls you'll get with look worse I'm sure.
>>70462626
Haha, Portugal. More frequently than a Yuropeen, I'm sure.
>>70462661
Thanks, I happen to like that.
>>70463374
Are you a real female or a trap?
>>70452700
get paid pupper!
>>70463374
>Most girls you'll get with look worse I'm sure.
Are you sure about that? Those were the ugliest tits I have ever seen. I'm still not sure if you are even a female. And what the fuck are all those bumps? It looks like you have the star of david written in braille on your nipple
>>70463374
>Haha, Portugal. More frequently than a Yuropeen, I'm sure.
how often because that shit looks grimy as fuck.
Mfw I know people who actually think they are going to become a radiologist
>>70455339
All the money in the world and that Jew manlet married the chubby fishmongers daughter
>>70463565
Real female, just not one that cared enough to post good pic.
>>70463685
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Areolar_glands
And good lighting makes a huge difference. here, have one from 1AM shitposting on /b/.
>>70463807
Got out of shower, sat on computer, argued on /pol/. Story of my life.
>>70461829
Your tits are an abomination, I can't imagine what your face looks like.
>>70450651
No, they do understand that. They're trying to devalue the STEM degrees by flooding the market with people who have them.
Many people with a STEM degree not being able to find work is part of that.
If everyone, with no exceptions, became a medical doctor the value of that profession would be reduced to 0.
>>70464226
Oh you're fat, that explains why your tits look so bad
>>70464226
In that case a full body pic or panties would be apreciated.
>>70464534
Indeed, I am a bit on the amerilard side when I sit. My posture is terrible. I look better standing but not like I care enough to haul my ass up.
>>70464226
I'm so fucking glad I checked your flag.
The bunk-bed, the bra and those puffy nipples, looked too fucking much like my EX. Almost lol'd for a moment.
>>70464226
would hang out with
Godspeed femanon
>>70447860
My daughter wants to study history and archeology at university.
She's 17 now,and I suppose she's following one of my interests in ancient history.
I have given her all my encouragement and I hope she does well.
My background is in languages. I'm bilingual in English/French (native speaker), dual nationality.
Good German, Spanish. I can communicate in Russian.
I have a fascination with ancient languages. I can read Icelandic sagas in the original, Greek, Latin.
My degree is in linguistics.
My wife is a doctor - a physician and she's interested in the human body and how it functions, how it evolved,
how we can fix it when things go wrong.
Knowledge is a wonderful thing. But to hold STEM high on a pedestal is to say that stuff like poetry is irrelevant.
Metalworking is irrelevant (my best m8 is a blacksmith), art is unimportant, literature is not necessary.
STEM is vital. But so are the other subjects of our human thirst for knowledge.
>>70464226
Can you stop posting pictures please? You are making me sick
>>70464863
Poetry is irrelevant you mong.
One day we'll create AI, and it will destroy all of humanity. The machines will then spread across the universe like a virus, and eventually all traces of human existence will fade, save for our horrific machinations. God will look down and smile, because all the poets are fucking dead and rotting.
STEM is being pushed for a few reasons.
1 - Women in STEM is a meme right now and everyone is mad about it.
2 - Corporations are upset that they have to pay engineers a shitload of money. Flooding the market with engineers = lower salaries for all of them.
That's it. The thing that these memesters don't understand is that being a talented engineer is different than just being an engineer. You can't just make people good at it, they need to have the drive for it.
>in linear algebra class southern California
>99% mostly spic including yours truly
>got our exams back
>1 A and 1 B in the whole class of 30
>the only A was achieved by a white guy
/pol/ was right again
white men can into STEM
>>70464226
Keep your tits in a bra, they look better that way.
>>70465421
I'm white and I can confirm.
>>70451651
You are joking right? CS&E and CE are pretty much the most employable graduates after petroleum engineers.
>tfw studying geography (regional development and politics)
I will end up with a shitty government job shuffling papers in an office if I'm lucky. I should've just become a carpenter or something.
>>70465097
>Poetry is irrelevant you mong.
Gave me a giggle.
Music is also irrelevant too, amirite?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhnMd1Jl7SA
There is a surplus of labor in the world, especially the developed world.
NO CONVENTIONAL ECONOMIC POLICY WILL FIX THIS. Realize this. There will NEVER be enough jobs for everyone to support themselves ever again, and it will only get worse.
Politicians don't know how to deal with this, so they hope that STEM is a silver bullet. It's not. There's already not a shortage of STEM and soon enough there will be a surplus and we will see a huge increase in unemployed STEM grads.
But STEM is the closest thing to an in-demand field that exists in the modern economy, so the politicians don't know what else to do other than say "go to STEM" to everyone.
It won't work and that will be obvious soon. Ten years from now we will have a constant 50% unemployment rate no matter what you study or know.
Only way to fix this is radically high deficit spending and a new understanding of fiat currency. Don't hold your breath. The world is going to shit, guaranteed, and nothing will stop it.
>>70466308
Basic income is the only valid choice for the near future. Many European countries are experimenting on it already.
>>70465097
Poetry is for people whose parents and grandparents worked hard so kids would be able to contribute to the cultural fabric of society. STEM is for kids of poor parents who make them work.
>>70452700
get paid pupper
Got my BS in chemistry and I have no fucking work. I did a termed position for 3 months after I graduated but I haven't found anything since. What do I do? I don't really want to get up and move out of state and I don't think I should have to, but every job I apply for says overqualified or I do not qualify. I'd even take $12 an hour at this point
>>70465367
engineers don't make that much money really. what they do is way more difficult than what lawyers do, and contributes vastly more to society, yet lawyers make way more.
engineers should be paid at least 150% more than what they make now
>>70460467
>>70466126
>mfw finishing my masters in mathematical modeling this year
Fucking pleb, never post on my board again
To progress in advances of technology and more, unlike those who stagnate it.
>>70448769
>STEM is a meme
>posts data from MIT, perhaps the most elite engineering and science institution on Earth.
Great bait, mate.
>>70466126
>carpenter
Can't mesothelioma be a factor to that job? Something about that dust enterring the lungs.
>>70452043
Located where, what is job title? And I call BS on 72k.
Post time stamped image of your last check deposit into your account online.
>>70466573
>Poetry is for people whose parents and grandparents worked hard
>>70466881
>get paid
>>70452700
get paid pupper
Depends on which part of STEM. A lot of the science degrees are garbage. Pumping out to many biologists, chemists, physicists, microbiologists, etc etc. A BSc. is the new high school degree.
>>70467017
They make more than 6 figures, on average, which is more than corporations want to pay them. Especially software engineers.
>>70461829
I'd lick em. Respect.
>>70460467
>>70460467
nice gyno fag
bio- anything means you couldnt handle calculus
>>70459602
are you fucking retarted? you really think trucks won't be automated within a couple years? you forget how much the jooz love their shekels, young one.
>>70467871
They make six figs after 10 years and then cap out at like 150k. I'm not going to sit here and say I think engineers deserve a shit load of money because to be honest, a lot of them are fucking retarded, but on the same token I find it weird that they make a salary you can easily make with just a highschool education and hard work.
A software engineer isn't even a real engineer by the way, that's like the phrase network engineer.
Official STEM powerrankings
M>S>E>T
>>70469114
PhD student, math here. For money / work it's:
E > T > M > S
>>70453142
Pay debts.
>>70464226
>>70464226
This is a dude
>>70469655
Here's her gross pussy and hairy asshole
>>70469655
/a/ was right again. 3D is fucking disgusting.
Because a lot of issues currently going on are just scientific misconception.
>>70469655
that's fucking gross dude
>>70469205
M is the most rewarding imo.
>>70447860
because the elite only need STEM majors to continue their attempt at immortality and keeping the masses sated with stupid mobile phones and shitty game consoles.
>>70469829
I came from /b/ fleeing that shit but it has crossed the board boundaries
I would say most people push it because people think in narratives defined by platitudes, rather than rational contemplation of facts.
That engineers and scientists are the the only subset of the working class that the elites need, can't easily outsource and won't be able to replace with robots means that they can demand more than subsistence wages. Increasing their numbers erodes labor security and is beneficial to the elites. I'd say that's 20-40% why it gets pushed. Elites conspiring against the citizens is what you get when you let Jewish sociopaths have the power.
>>70452700
get paid pupper
I believe math is evil. Math doesn't agree with my marxist views. Its blasphemy. Join my religion, progressivism. Together we will make 2+2=5. Everyone agree with me make "STEM is bad" threads. Lets brainwash common sense. Obama baby! Feel the bern!
>>70453328
>mech engineering
>"useless"
>tfw I'm in texas and oil companies scout our uni for mech and chem engies every other week
>>70469655
Her tits looked bigger on the previous pics.
>>70450892
>>Genetic Engineering
>Is that technically STEM? It doesn't seem to be considered so by some sources.
You need to find some new sources.
>>70452700
get paid pupper
How employable is electrical engineering?
t. Electrical engineering student in the 6th semester
>>70452700
get paid pupper
>>70466979
everyone knows nobody employs you if you dont have a PhD in Chemistry, its why Chemistry has so many doctorates. why dont you make the master?
>>70462288
There's absolutely no job security in China. Also, The demand for English will lessen over time as technology becomes more ubiquitous to native Chinese. Soon the job prospects will be similar to ESL teachers in South Korea--and they certainly aren't making bank. Your best bet it to be quirky and get into entertainment/television.
>>70459242
History BA holder here. Can confirm.
One class was specifically "LGBTQIA* history" even though the class was called something completely unrelated. Ended up telling the teacher I was gay and that I didn't want to be apart of the politics of LGBTQIA*. She basically gave me straight A's for D-level work after that. Lol
>>70452700
get paid pupper
>>70452700
Get paid, pupper!
>>70470035
i agree, which is why im studying it.
thank god i have a small inheritance to supplement my shitty GA pay
People forget that not every STEM subject is created equally.
You major in a natural science or pure maths? Unless you want to spend your life doing research (which, depending on the field, can be a highly unreliable source of income), I hope you like teaching.
Meanwhile senior chartered engineers are making six figures in a field with ACTUAL high demand.
>>70471274
Pretty employable, even outside the field the skills are easily transferable.
That being said
>Do AC
>Frequently encounter EE's
>It turns out they don't know shit about electricity
>>70464863
You are living in years long gone Anon.
The world is a different place.
A nation's status in the modern world id pretty much directly correlated to its standing as a scientific power. You might not want to admit that, but it is true and it doesn't take a PhD in nuclear physics to see that. Modern economies are increasingly STEM-dependent. I don't mean to sound cold, but if every poet in America dropped dead tomorrow--guess what--we're not missing a beat.
>doing pure science degree
Kill me. Should've going into engineering or CS
>>70447860
>Why is there such a big push to get kids into STEM?
salaries in STEM fields are still pretty high and they need to lower them by oversaturating the job market.
