http://www.cnet.com/news/bernie-sanders-donald-trump-agree-apple-iphone-manufacturing-to-us/
Apple primarily relies on foreign manufacturing partners, notably China, although it does make Mac Pros and some iPhone parts in the US. When politicians call for domestic manufacturing, they tend to reason it will benefit the nation economically. But manufacturing costs are much cheaper abroad.
Many American companies have become reliant on Asian companies like Foxconn, which manufactures the iPhone, to keep devices affordable. If the iPhone was manufactured in US, analysts say consumers could end up paying twice as much, or more, for the phone.
The US also doesn't have the same manufacturing capabilities, Apple Chief Executive Tim Cook said in a December interview on "60 Minutes," and has fallen behind China in terms of specialist skills.
"China put an enormous focus on manufacturing," said Cook. "The US, over time, began to stop having as many vocational kinds of skills."
its happening my friend and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it
>>70444480
>to keep devices affordable
I think you mean "to improve the corporate bottom line."
feels good man. Bernie is right
Trump/Bernie 2016 check em
>>70444858
This.
Greedy fucks. It costs about 200 dollars to gather the materials and components needed to manufacture a Dell desktop PC. Yet they're sold for around 1k in stores.
Costs about 80 dollars to manufacture a smartphone. Yet they're sold for around 700 or more dollars.
It's ridiculous and unneeded.
>>70445100
Witnessed
>>70445283
Engineering cost not included
>>70444858
Even if we accept that premise the end result is the same: higher prices for the consumer.
Maybe the profit margin of a company should also be dictated by the government?
>>70445100
Is that even possible? A republican pres with a Democrat vice pres?
>>70444858
Nigger have you ever heard of R&D?
>>70444480
>>70444640
Bernie Sanders supporters have deluded themselves into hating Hillary Clinton more than anyone else in the world via non stop anti-Hillary posts on reddit and facebook. A lot of Bernie supporters say they will either not vote or vote for Trump if Hillary gets the nomination. Now Donald Trump is constantly publicly agreeing with Bernie Sanders. What Trump is doing is securing the disgruntled Sanders supporter vote because he knows the general election will be himself vs Hillary. It's brilliant
>>70445577
cant we force them to let go of the intellectual property after x number of years to allow companies to make compatible "clones"? Seeing how parts and labor is $80 per phone, it'll allow even africa to make their own 100% compatible iphone
President Trump with VP Sanders is the only I could potentially tolerate more.
>>70445681
if they get fucked by their respective parties they could run third party
>>70445681
they could both go independent if they dont get the nomination i think.
>>70445283
What is research and development
What is building rent
What is marketing
What is software engineer team salary cost
What is user acceptance testing
>>70445283
Do you honestly believe this shit? If you want to learn more about Apple's operational cost just read their financial reports. It's a publicly traded company.
>>70444480
So what will all the liberal outlets who said this would never work say now that their cucklord has agreed
>>70444480
How? By force?
>>70445283
Its a valuable product and everyone wants one. They are free to set the price they want because its a free market.
>>70446011
>How? By force?
Government force.
>>70444480
so you guys are super excited to pay $2000 for a phone
>>70446168
So communism?
Now that I think about it, A Trump/Sanders ticket COULD take away so many votes from both tickets that they would have a viable shot at winning.
>>70444940
He's finally copying Trump just like Cruiser did.
Trumps winning over democrats with his wall and domestic job plan do everyone is forced with reresorting to copying him.
Why vote for the guy who can't even come up with half his plans yet and is imitating the competition?
Even your pic started as a Trump meme and if you've been here even a month you'd know it.
>>70444480
>>70444640
UNHOLY ALLIANCE WHEN?
>>70446011
Import tax, just raise it high enough tjat its cheaper to buy from US manufacturers than chinese.
>>70445283
i get that there are people out there stupid enough to believe what they typed here. Unfortunately there are lots, and they vote.
>>70446204
>So communism?
There should be a global taxation by a worldwide government. If they don't pay your taxes, you are executed on the spot.
>>70445926
It costs Apple $12-$30 to manufacture a unit which is 3 times as much as most any other company. And their BOM is around $200. Which puts their COGS at about ~$250
Design costs are insignificant compared to manufacturing (except for software which is basically all design)
>>70446323
You're forgetting that most bernie supporters are 16 and can't vote
>>70444480
Beautiful
Prime opportunity to short Apple
>>70446530
>You're forgetting that most bernie supporters are 16 and can't vote
You mean Trump supporters?
>>70446403
Cuz trade wars always work! They raise the cost of all goods, and acts as a regressive tax that impacts the poor most. Fucking brilliant. Trump/Sanders Toilet.
>>70446581
Which is why Trump supporters are supposedly "Nothing but old, redneck white people". Keyword on "OLD".
Android is better in every way
>>70446363
what the fuck is wrong with you? Bernie has always loved anime .
https://youtu.be/aAdw5m_vLxc
check this out, Trump has nothing on Bernie in the anime department
>>70444480
That sounds good but then the new iPhones would cost about $1,495 a piece.
>>70446761
>Which is why Trump supporters are supposedly "Nothing but old, redneck white people". Keyword on "OLD".
His internet supporters are all 16 year olds. I seem them all the time, underage kids spewing TRUMP 2016!!!!11!!!!!11!!1 It's cringe worthy.
Trump and Bernie do have alot of positions that they agree on, bringing back jobs, healthcare etc., just different approaches to them. if they did team up there's no candidates that could stop them
>>70444480
Protip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhmMeRxg-CU&nohtml5=False
>>70446855
>That sounds good but then the new iPhones would cost about $1,495 a piece.
Than we should have price controls. Force apple to lower the cost of iPhones.
>>70446878
stop youre embarrassing yourself on a Pakistani goat herding board
>>70445283
>>70445681
Lincoln did it. Andew Johnson was Democrat. and IIRC, Lincoln appointed other opposing party members to some cabinet positions
It was a unity ticket. That said, it hasnt happened since.
Would be neat if it happened again.
>>70445822
Based idea bro
With the ridiculous profit margin Apple charges for the name brand, they can easily afford manufacturing here and still asking the same consumer price
>>70446523
It's mass produced cheap materials at a high quality production. So it's likely the phones are only around $30 to $40 in materials.
On the flip side. Tim Cook Cook is right... America is shit culture at the moment.
> hey guys want to hack out this new piece of hardware? I got the new oculus rift
> y0 suk muh dick faggot, nerd, lets smoke some drugs and i gota holla at this girl, but right now she suckin som otha guys dick so imma wait and watch tv, i want dose rims and check out muh new baseball hat
>>70446938
Sounds like a good idea, apple jewing 900 dollars for a device that costs 165 dollars in parts is outrages.
>>70446884
True, they're both retarded populists that appeal to the lowest common denominator of economic illiterates.
>>70446623
>Remove tariffs
>Companies suddenly move production overseas
>Everything is imported
Wow. Free trade agreements sure are great, huh?
>>70445681
They could if they both go independent or quickly form a new party
>>70447414
Bernie was independent for 20 years. He became a democrat because he knew that was the only way he could even have a shot at winning.
>>70445681
It used to be the VP was the runner up.
>>70444480
Tim cook
>we exported manufacturing jobs to China
>suddenly America isnt keen on manufacturing jobs
This mother fucker
>>70444480
Apple products are already priced double than they're worth. Fuck em
>>70447190
>So it's likely the phones are only around $30 to $40 in materials.
no. This is all taken into account their supply line.
The 6plus was about $40 in materials than the 6.
It's still a 65-70% profit.
The hardest part about manufacturing in The US would be maintaining a supply line, materials cost would be the biggest increase.
>>70447697
*$40 more
>>70447402
Yes, cheap electronics is pretty fucking great.
>>70447572
>Bernie was independent for 20 years. He became a democrat because he knew that was the only way he could even have a shot at winning.
Yeah but he always caucused with the democrats and had agreements not to compete with each other in elections. He was basically a democrat his entire career.
>>70447822
Why does pussy cost more than a used iphone?
Explain.
>>70445690
Yeah, I'm sure they're really struggling to make ends meet in the R&D department of Apple.
>>70445283
And no competitor is going to undercut them if that's the case?
Just kill yourself man. You're a waste of oxygen.
>>70445690
>>70448014
> Apples R & D department
> We've innovated the next big thing!
> We now offer the iphone in the color purple.
>>70448006
I don't pay for pussy so I have no idea. Try asking Reddit.
>>70448113
Maybe prices should be dictated by the government. I'm sure there's no way this plan could fail.
>>70445283
If people would stop buying the products, we wouldn't have this problem, yet every time, idiots line up to buy the new model of the iPhone, and on the way out they complain that CEOs make to much money. They completely fail to realize that they are the ones who support them financially
>>70445690
R&D cost is projected to be about $15 per iphone. It's literally nothing. The bulk cost of production is manufacturing
>>70446011
Yes. People who aren't autistic libertarians understand the government can use force to do things that promote a healthy society, like prosecuting criminals and forcing American companies to produce in America.
Corporations like Apple only exist because they are supported by the US government through the granting of limited liability status, a legal privilege, the use of publicly-funded courts to adjudicate and enforce private contracts, corporate and financial laws that protect the owners of corporations and make it easy for them to operate.
In exchange for this, it is perfectly morally justified for the government to force US companies that produce goods to produce them in the US.
If they don't like it, they and all their owners and employees can move to Somalia or Antarctica and stop selling their products in the US. Their choice.
>>70445283
material costs are cheap when you have slave labor.
assembly costs are almost as cheap with slave labor as well.
however theres also engineering costs, transportation costs, and of course our favorite goyim tax of 90% where the kikes take home almost all the profit.
>>70446371
Soon.
>>70445100
Fug
>>70448518
Ah yes, the government forcing companies to relocate their production is definitely the sign of a healthy society and not a failed state in the making.
>>70444480
Trump has his entire clothing line based out of china
I believe samsung has factories all over Tailand
HP is in Mexico
Why should Apple move while even Trump won't?
>>70449025
Trump is a hypocrite, it's true, but it's better to be a hypocrite supporting something positive than an honest person supporting something bad.
>>70447260
>says the stockholme syndrome country
>>70447260
Yeah, real illiterates, recognizing that the last several decades of free trade and immigration that factually caused stagnating wages, zero social mobility, mass unemployment and social decay.
>>70449948
>empty buzzwords
You're enjoying some of the highest quality of life ever experienced in the history of the human species.
>>70444480
>China is going to get REKT
>Chynadians go full control damage
Jeez, not surprising at all. Fucking chinks watching each others back.
>>70444480
The funny thing is corporations could bring manufacturing back to the U.S and lower the price, they'd just loose profits.
>>70450159
Empty buzzwords? Stagnant wages and declining social mobility are easily verifiable facts. High unemployment and the fact that most of the new jobs over the past several years are low-paying is a fact. Social decay is a fact -- just look around you, what has happened to society over the last 30 years? Visit any major American city to see.
>>70450159
This is literally the shittest quality of life since the Dark age.
>>70450606
Mercantilism could only work in the US, as the most important central bank prints their currency. Global banking relies so much on it, that their market its what makes others nations get some wealth.
>bernie won't win
>possible chance trump won't win
>tfw we'll never get our meme election
Fuck the establishment
>>70444480
Trump*Sanders*2016
>>70450862
I have no clue what you just said. THere is one central bank and i have no clue what mercantilism.
>free market they can set what ever price they want
>oyy vey goy don't you dare copy my design and sell what the customer wants for 1/10th the price that's theft!
>>70451128
THat's anti-semiotics.
>>70445681
>they run 3rd party together
>it collects more votes than the REP/DEM party combined by a long shot
>Ron Paul hops on the Trump train/Bernie bus
Can it be stopped ? were we born just in-time to witness national socialism in the USA?
>>70450935
American central bank is the Federal Reserve. And the dollar its the currency on which global transactions are made, despite all the efforts many have done you can't compete with the currency of the central bank that dominates others banks like a pyramid. Liquidity, assets, you call it. Especially resources.
Mercantilism is what Sanders and Trump are seeking, to boost home production and avoid foreign goods.
What do you guys think of this fucking nu-male? He calls everyone comrades.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrXqAs-a0z4
>>70451212
If we're being serious: Bernie doesn't want to run 3rd party. It all depends on how many liberals jump on the Green party (or Trump) train.
Hell, a lot of my Bernie-supporting friends won't even vote if Clinton wins. I'm trying to convince them to at least vote 3rd party in the general if Clinton wins
>>70451237
That will benefit the U.S won't it? Americans don't benefit from having their central bank dominate other banks, that costs Americans taxmoney doesn't it?
>>70444480
Trump = Nationalism
Bernie = Socialism
Trump + Bernie = National Socialism
Can this Ticket be Stopped??
:^)
>>70448482
Fuck off you swedish cunt, you have no place to tell anyone how to run a country, faggot
>>70448482
sure bud
>>70444480
>yfw Trump announces Sanders as his running mate
>>70444640
PATRIOTIC Socialism when?!
>>70445100
The goyim alliance has grown too powerful
Shut it down
SHUT IT DOWN
>>70452350
>Sanders
>Goy
>>70444480
>the iPhone was manufactured in US, analysts say consumers could end up paying twice as much, or more, for the phone.
yeah but the only reason for this is because Apple want to keep their billions upon billions of dollars of profit
>>70451557
>don't benefit from having their central bank dominate other banks
Delusion. There is no other place in the world with an governmental apparatus od that immensity as well as social programs too sustain their economies. Obama isn't a genius, in 2008 he went to the Legislative power to increase the budget because if you stop injecting money you face and economic shock and mass firings. That scheme is not sustainable, just look at Venezuela. They got billions of billions in dollars, but their citizens acts like Americans some work other are just waiting to earn money working a few hours and expecting their infrastructure gets better. And it fails, because that mentality only slow downs your economy instead of turning it dynamic.
See other first world nations, like Japan and Switzerland they don't care about people who don't work. Life is expensive. While you can be a total failure in the states and don't worry for food or shelter.
Its the magical "self-debt" the Federal Reserve gives the US population that makes them rich even if its only for a couple days and then it goes to others nations like China who will exchange the dollars for goods and then buy more resources in the international arena like oil and metals.
Trump is aware of that leeching mentality. Listen to his interviews (avoid speeches), Americans don't make anything now. Technology pours into others nations, and companies move to avoid taxes and local jobs, despite profiting from the US market.
Yes they benefit and a lot of it, maybe the middle class don't appreciate it but look how many jobless leechers are around (blacks above 30 who didn't had a job at all with their EBT cards) and ask your self why their economy hasn't collapse/froze already.
>>70452436
He's a self-loathing Jew.
>>70452762
Americans are the biggest victims of American war and corporate imperialism.
I'd be willing to pay more for consumer goods if it means more US jobs and non-stagnant wages
>to keep devices affordable
topkek, It literally costs them like 150$ to build an iphone (parts and labour). And they sell it for 900$. Get your head out of your ass, the only reason they are building their shit in china is for pure $$, not because they care about releasing an affordable device.
>>70448518
Agreed
The problem is America's shitty consumerism, people buy the new 1000$ iphone, now 1% thinner, and with NEW COLORS and toss away their perfectly good old phone every year, and they buy new laptops or ipads every single year and toss out their old ones. People just buy shit they don't need for status and to feel good, if they stopped throwing their money away they'd be better off. Who buys apple except for liberal college students with their student loan debt, wearing whatever overpriced popular clothes are being marketed. I can buy a pc for half the price with double the specs
>>70445283
>It costs about 200 dollars to gather the materials and components needed to manufacture a Dell desktop PC.
If it only costs $200 in components why do similar components from Newegg cost me $800? PC's are low margin boxes at best...until you hit high end customized stuff or graphic workstation/multi cpu stuff do you start to get into double digit profit margins.
>>70444480
itt american not counting the business cost of just doing business in america (complying with us regulation is more expensive than in china)
>>70445681
It happened here during WW2, actual left wing labour government in coalition with the conservatives, labour as the junior party
Just imagine how hard it would fuck over Shillary.
Largest landslide victory ever? 75%-25%?
>>70444940
>bernie
>anime
>>70445822
Thats how it was supposed to be. If we switched over to a fair use, ten years and then its free use.
If you cant make enough profit to offset costs after 10 years any more time wouldnt matter.
Secondly 10 year old technology wouldnt outpace current except in a few fringe cases where some genius knew of a way to apply it in a better way. Which we should support.
>>70457511
Burn the stumps 2016
You cant stump sand 2020
Slogans need some work though.
Yeah... I'm not paying 4k for an Apple.
>>70446855
That's how much they should cost.
>>70457511
Bernie would never be Trump's VP, he talks about Trump being terrible and "racist" at his rallies all of the time. Your typical Bernie supporter would never support Trump as well, even if Bernie was attached to Trump in some way.
>>70458068
>not awoovement
Blew it.
>>70451440
I'm voting for Stein in the general.
who else is gonna write in bernie when the general comes around?
Enjoy paying $2,000 for an iPhone
America cannot function without slave labor. The US just replaced niggers with mexicans and chinks.
>>70452161
National socialism even?
