A LOOK AT DENMARK, BERNIE'S WET DREAM
I was born and raised in Denmark and still live here, in the country's 8th biggest municipality of Randers. I took this photo last weekend, a typical quiet sunday here. After exchange programs to the US twice, one in 2014 and one in 2015, I feel informed enough to let you know why bringing more of Denmark to the US might not be in anyone's best interest.
Danish cars are always much smaller and less modern, even compare to cars in Sweden. A car like the one in this photo is typical. We can break down the total cost of buying it like this: The company's sales price + 25% of the sales price in sales tax + 186% of the sales price in registry tax. That's right, a shitty car like this will easily be twice as expensive as it is in Germany, Sweden, or Norway.
Why? "Pollution," except that car sales are constantly on the increase and that we, like other countries, are getting closer to seeing 1 car per person. It's just the state wanting to increase its income. The registry tax will be above 70% for electric cars soon, because pollution is no longer relevant. Tesla got way pissed when it was announced earlier this year.
I've already mentioned the 25% sales tax on all goods and services. No exceptions. This tax has the opposite effect of a progressive tax (it is a degressive tax) because it especially hits the lower classes harder. And this makes up, IIRC, more than 1/3rd or even close to half of the state's income. "Socialist utopia," my ass.
I do not have a photo of a television, but the National Danish Broadcasting Corporation ("Denmark's Radio") forces a fee of $500 per year if you own any device that can watch televion OR even go online. Why online? Because their shows are available online. If you decide to boycott DR, however, you still have to pay. Or if you don't use it. You also get to pay if you own a radio of any kind. If you do not, you'll get letters and risk a visit from persons of authority who will try to coerce you.
Let's talk more taxes. Total income taxes are a result of many different taxes on income being put together. For example, there's the state's base tax on income and the extra tax if you earn above $50,000-ish per year. There's the municipality's tax. There's also a tax on 8% of your income if you have a job. They call that "labor market contribution." And there's a health tax, obviously. Your effective tax rate will be all rates put together except for the "labor market contribution". So, mine is 38% because I don't earn shit and so get taxed the MINIMUM in this country. But since I do have a job, I have to add 8% to that. Thus, a job that earns me maybe $25,000 a year will be taxed by 46%. Now, there's a minimum of $8,000 of the income that will never be taxed, and you'll also be able to skip some more taxes the more you work through "beskæftigelsesfradrag". But that's still a lot since I'll be paying 25% on ALL GOODS AND SERVICES as soon as I go out to spend that money anywhere.
The question is what I get for my money. If I consider my tax money an insurance that yields many different services, etc. in one, then I'll gladly admit that I get a lot. Free education, free visits to the doctor and the hospitals (but not free medicine). I'm married to someone who is not an EU citizen, so while other Danes have a constitutional right to help if you can't nurture yourself, that right was waivered to me and the only way that I can get any job insurance is by first working and then earning the right through a DIFFERENT state owned insurance that I have to pay $60 for every month. But, luckily, I can still get help with high living costs and so I receive $100 per month to help pay the rent. Which is demeaning, I'd rather just have a lower tax rate. But I do get it. I go to the doctor regularly, and that costs like $20 for every visit (as you can see online) but is handled through taxes. The most expensive things I still pay for. DENTIST. TRANSPORTATION. MEDICINE. BOOKS.
>>70430058
I pay 36% tax total on my pay check and Romania has a flat tax so there are no loopholes i can abuse to get it lower, what do i get for this money? Medical care? 6 babies recently died due to infections they got in a hospital, the hospitals are nothing but slaughter houses, quit your bitching at least you make enough to have enough left over at the end of the month
>>70431943
Fuck off, it was literally page 10
>>70430058
>>70430836
Then fucking leave you traitor.
48,5% tax on income here. 21% additionally for all goods and services. Additional 50% for vehicle import. TV license is also paid, if you own a TV. We were the first to incorporate rain tax that you pay based on the rain that falls on your private soil etc.
Most doctor appointments have long queues, so it's either pay private or wait 1-2 years (this number is not exagerated, depends on the treatment). All non standard services are paid extra in medicine. Most of prescription pills as well. There's an additional monthly fee if you don't want just the basic healthcare services (which cover pretty much NOTHING).
College is free up to phd, then it's privately paid.
In practice, we're taxed at nearly 60% (income + tax on goods and services).
>>70432132
You sound like a cuck
t b h f a m
>>70430058
Looks like the average migrant infested suburb here
>>70430058
>>70430836
What a shit hole.
And that's rich coming from someone who lives in the south of England.
>>70432714
You have no idea about op. He doesn't even know Danish culture
>>70430058
Europe's masters have brainwashed their slaves quite nicely.
https://mises.org/blog/if-sweden-and-germany-became-us-states-they-would-be-among-poorest-states
>>70432132
>>70433089
Can you explain this rather than act autistic?
>>70430836
This sounds so soul crushing.
> work, make enough to survive
> get taxed so much, it becomes not enough to survive
> need government assistance to survive
WTF. Cut out the middleman and you'd be far wealthier and in control of your destiny.
>>70432977
Looks like the average suburb here.
>>70432977
thank god cars are still affordable though
>>70430058
Denmark is a contender for "best country in the World", and the Socialism is part of the reason for that.
>>70433184
>be far wealthier and in control of your destiny.
Big Brother doesn't want that.
>>70433089
Paying a lot of taxes is danish culture? wut
>>70430058
What is the point of this thread?
>>70433272
If progressive liberals are in charge of those rankings, then they are worthless desu
>>70433367
Threads on /pol/ never have a point...
>>70433184
it is. trust me. i am from denmark but couldnt bear the thought of financing welfare queens and immigrants with my money.
moved to swissland, fucking love it here. income tax is fucking 8% (eight percent!). thought it was too good to be true, but it is.
oh yeh when you get kids be ready to pay like $3k in daycare. a month. but since im single and dont ever want kids its fucking paradise here.
>>70430058
>I've already mentioned the 25% sales tax on all goods and services. No exceptions.
Same in literally every EU country.
>>70430058
You're a good man, amigo. Where'd you study in the US?
>>70430058
i would kill myself if half of my money went to the goverment
>>70433146
Nice link, thanks.
> live in a state where median income is about twice Germany's
> make almost three times that amount in our household, and wife is not even completely done with her job training yet
Feels good man.
Come to Brazil and see what a socialist shithole truly is.
You europeans pay just a little bit more taxes than us (we got a taxation of almost 41% over GDP) but got a great public education, public health and almost 0 crime rate.
Where I live people are used to die in emergency rooms because doctors don't even got gloves to wear.
Don't make me talk about corruption everywhere.
>>70432132
You're the traitor for not wanting the Danish people to have more freedom in their economy.
Then again, you probably still have mummy and daddy pay for everything.
>>70430058
>Actually paying for the DR license
top cuck m8
>>70430058
Quebecistan here.
You don't pay any income tax up to about 40k per year or something. Once you earn over that tho you jump up to 42% for 100k, then nearly 50% for 150k.
We have to pay both Federal and Provincial taxes because our provincial government decided to be a special snowflake but the eternal anglo still wants his gibsmedat to pay for middle eastern wars and stuff.
There's about 15% tax on all goods for this reason too.
Then there's the municipal taxes, and with how incompetent and corrupt the quebecquois are, they tripled in the last 2 decades for no improvements at all (in fact clear degradation of infrastructure). You have to pay a tax based on how much money you would rent your house for, even if you don't plan to rent it and there's barely any market for renting town houses.
So in total, out of the 110k my father earns, he gets to pocket 50k, 60k goes to be wasted by the provincial, federal and municipal authorities. Not counting sales tax of course.
I'm myself at 60k and get to keep around 40k.
And all this for what? Free visits to the doctor, but I never visit the doctor and neither does anyone in my family because we have good genes and a healthy lifestyle. For non immediate treatments tho, you are put on a waiting list because public healthcare is still a disaster, so people still pick private insurances on the side to go to private clinics and skip all that bullshit. The worst roads in north America. Retirements plans are a joke and they've been telling us they'll probably disappear anyway (but we keep ur money :^) ). You can squeeze some freebies here and there but you really have to look for them because the gov certainly doesn't advertise.
We have some pretty great universities and vocational schools tho, and they're half funded the the state. Which is a plus.
What else? We barely have anything more than Alberta who pays 4 times less tax.
And the worst is that apparently taxes are just 50% of quebec's revenue, or even less.
>>70434358
Does Quebec have the highest provincial tax rate?
>>70434358
I would like to add, to add insult to injury, we're being called free loaders by all the albertan and bc chinks edgelords here on /pol/ because of the equalization payment meme. Which we get to compensate for money we don't don't get from other fed programs that they get.
Eat shit westernfags. When you waste half your income on taxes you will have the right to call me lazy.
>>70430058
just in short:
finish university here. it's free, yeah!
it's not like in the US where you're coddled with teachers and resources and all that unnecessary stuff. simply go a couple of times a week into a gigantic hall, with hundreds of other students, go to library with outdated books and somehow manage to pass your tests, and you are done.
if you manage to get a good job then, you pay 40% taxes for unemployed immigrants and single mothers, lazy government employees and get to fund the governments agenda to ever encroach more into the life of the average citizen.
don't do that, america. you won't survive, honestly.
>>70434358
Nearly 100k per year would get you the best medical care available in the entire world if your whole family was ill, or if you are healthy you could become rich very quickly. That level of taxation is fucked.
>>70434788
I think so. That or Nova Scotia which is also a socialist hell hole. Ontario must not be that far behind but they at least get more value out of it.
>>70430058
$500/year to own a TV or computer? That's wild.
Dog bless USA
>>70434926
NS is socialist? Damn, I always thought they were pretty cool. Alberta is the most conservative, right? They seem like they'd fit in the US
>>70430058
>I do not have a photo of a television, but the National Danish Broadcasting Corporation ("Denmark's Radio") forces a fee of $500 per year if you own any device that can watch televion OR even go online. Why online? Because their shows are available online. If you decide to boycott DR, however, you still have to pay. Or if you don't use it. You also get to pay if you own a radio of any kind. If you do not, you'll get letters and risk a visit from persons of authority who will try to coerce you.
This thing is a real cancer. More so than your know.
If your Neighbour gives you open and free wifi, the inspectors can measure the wifi, and force every neighbours in the vicinity to pay this tax if they have a computer/laptop.
The clause is "You have access to TV on the internet, you have to pay"
It doesn't matter if this free Wifi is only open 4 hours every day. You still have to to pay if the inspector discovers the wifi and your computer.
If doesn't matter if DR cannot guarantee the uptime of this wifi, you still have to pay, even if the neighbour decides to go on a holiday for a month and close his Wifi for that duration, you still paid to DR.
A computer with internet is pretty much an integrated part of our lives at this point, we use to for work, we use it for school, we use online to connect to our school's servers, and yet we are still coerced into supporting a national broadcasting TV channel because of that.
And the politicians doesn't give a fuck about that. They think everybody who is important is already a millionaire who can easily afford it. They just want an easy option to finance the TV station, they don't give a fuck about some random students who live in poverty.
(according the the socialists: any muslim who only gets 5000kr a month is in poverty, and of course the double standard: any student who is given 5000 kr a month is well off, and a spoiled brat)
>>70430058
it looks nice and comfy post more pics if you got them OP
>>70430058
>186% of the sales price in registry tax
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?
>>70434358
do you have a VAT or sales tax too?
>>70436884
Yup. A brand new Ford Mondeo can easily run you over 300K Kroner.
Do the math
>>70436884
Fucking paid 150k danish crowns for a renault megane from 2012 with 45k km on board.then i went to their website and a fucking new kadjar almost full optionaæ costs the same.fucking socialists.fuck denmark.
>>70437888
And there's absolutely no loopholes ? No "buying at the German border" ?
>>70433028
>What a shit hole
Indeed, Randers is literally the joke of the entire country. There are memes just about Randers.
>>70437888
>>70437713
But aren't we arguing small luxury problems at this point?
I would rather live like this DK, than in Detroit, or Baltimore, or some shithole in South America.
>>70430058
>>70430836
>these pictures
like something from an 80s magazine
>>70436721
>>70437903
Gonna post some comfy dane pictures for you guys
>>70434358
Quebec really does have the shittiest roads I've ever seen. It's no exaggeration that you can tell by the roads the exact second you cross from Ottawa to Gatineau. Ontario has its unique problems too, though.
>>70438059
No because if the car doesnt have danish number plates police can stop you and ask who the fuck you are.and automatically since you must have a ssn to have basically everything then they are just gonna take your car away.loopholes?dont exist.i dont understand how this fucking country is rated the happiest on earth.
>>70438328
Alright I take my comment >>70438287 back, I love this shit.
LITERALLY happiest people on earth
> BOOOHOOO BERNIES DREAM SUCKS
just move ffs
>>70438328
>>70438059
Nope. Still need the registration which is the expensive part.
Id gladly pay the sales tax, doubt anyone would have a problem with that.
>>70438456
>>70438378
Our country is really comfy desu
>>70438152
No mate because i dont like the fact that i have to bust my ass for 200 hrs a month and pay half of my salary in fucking taxes.for muslims welfare queens and government.
>>70438328
>>70438456
>>70438557
the feels
>>70438367
> the happiest on earth
Aren't you happy citizen ? Surely, you can't be sad. Look, the government provides everything for you ! If you can't get something, then you don't need it !
>>70438437
Also has one of the highest rates of anti-depressive usage
>>70438557
This is from my city's cathedral, i was in here last summer listening to Bach on the organ with my dad
>>70438787
>>70438620
Glad you can see how beautiful it is
>>70438736
like all first world countries. Because their healtchare can afford it.
>>70438637
Roosh described denmark as a fucking zoo where everyone is cared for and all people are ideally the same.Id prefer living in a jungle where i can better myself and be higher than others because of my worth and achievements not be put and gunned down by the fucking taxes and governmant just because muh egalitarian society.fuck this shit i hope that in 3 to 4 years ill be outta here.
>>70438557
what's all this green shit???
>>70438903
ty for the really nice pics m8
>>70438940
420
Even this they would get cheaper if wasn't for the taxation moron.
>>70438940
Grass...trees
>>70432132
>Fuck off, it was literally page 10
What did he mean by this?
>>70438903
>>70438940
Life outside of the megacities :)
>>70438928
But anon, that's how most western euro countries are. Are you planning on trying to get a US visa ?
>>70438557
Here's some Holland.
>>70439065
>>70439093
and it's not killing them?
there's so much of it, that can't be healthy
isn't that why concrete was invented
>>70439178
nice short commie blocks
>>70439093
We love taking family trips to the forrests
A lot of beech forrests in Denmark like in this pic
>>70438364
Parts of Ottawa are literal Somali-tier and Kathleen Wynne belongs in a gulag.
The Gatineau neighborhood I'm in is 90% white and too expensive for the riff-raff, fortunately.
>>70439110
No.american dream is dead.i dont know australia seems viable even if even grass attacks you or another country.i still have 3 or 4 years to elaborate a working plan and then im outta here.
>>70439178
Hmm, that must be a muslim free area.
If there was lots of muslims there, you would see a lot of satellite TV dish antennas.
>>70430058
>National Danish Broadcasting Corporation ("Denmark's Radio") forces a fee of $500 per year
complete bullshit, and that's how I know you're a proxy. It's equal to 380 USD, but anyone with more than 2 braincells just ignore the letters and they are not in ANY WAY enforced, unlike the UK BBC.
Thanks to our insane car taxes (yes I agree they are insane) we also have one of the most, if not the most physically active populations in Western countries thanks to nearly everyone owning and using a bike daily.
There are plenty of legit things to complain about Denmark, but life for the middle and lower classes is miles better in Denmark than it is in the US. Only the upper class has it better in USA.
>>70432132
S P A S T I C C U C K
>>70433367
Read his first phrase idiot.
Barney always talk about the wonders of Scandinavian socialism.
>>70433367
supremely buttblasted Murican using a proxy to talk shit about another country.
>>70439093
unfortunate to think in 25 years this will all be burnt down to the ground by muzzies, that woman probably raped and children beheaded. The house burnt down and trees pissed all over cuz mohammad said so
>>70439395
>complete bullshit, and that's how I know you're a proxy. It's equal to 380 USD, but anyone with more than 2 braincells just ignore the letters and they are not in ANY WAY enforced, unlike the UK BBC.
if you ignore the letters in germany you go to prison :D
http://www.dw.com/en/more-and-more-germans-boycotting-state-media-fees/a-19165376
>>70439395
>just ignore the letters and they are not in ANY WAY enforced
That's illegal you know.
Also, you WILL be pestered annually by an inspector if your area has a free Wifi open>>70436058
>>70439395
What the fuck are you even talking about?go out and look outta your windows and tell me how many fatfucks youll see.fucking swear to god it's true danes are fucking arrogant.
>>70439328
no we stole your bed cover
>>70439224
What the fuck, are you retarded or was that a joke.
>>70439224
>>70439271
Come home white man
>>70439328
stay sour, est
In denmark tou have to fucking pay for an apple not a kg of apples.where the fuck do you pay fruits by the piece?thats fucking stupid.
>>70438456
If it werent for the car, that looks like a section of an amusement park at Disney world.
>>70439715
breh...
Bernies actual wet dream is a true socialist -paradise like Venezuela
>>70439395
The Broadcasting fee may be enforced here but there are huge numbers of people that straight up don't pay it at all. And as the the licensing people usually dont have a warrant people just end up telling them to fuck off.
>>70430058
So how much of an Agorist underground economy is going on there, OP? Is there even a way to do that without your government bringing the hammer down?
>>70432691
> We were the first to incorporate rain tax that you pay based on the rain that falls on your private soil etc.
what
>>70439626
>That's illegal you know.
Rofl. Are you legit retarded?
>>70436058
this guy is also fucking retarded
I haven't paid license for 10 years and only once had a guy knock on my door. I just said I don't have any device capable of internet, television or radio. That was it. It's so ridiiously easy to avoid paying. Even if you are paying license, you can go to their website and cancel your license, just by saying, again, that you don't have the necessary devices.
>>70430058
zero niggers.
socialism, capitalism, marxism whatever. Bernie could be pol fucking pot, if he gets rid of the niggers, america will do better
>>70439764
>>70439824
Hope you like it
>>70439984
Fuck off you cunt. Stop encouraging people to do illegal things.
That's a criminal act.
Rate my house.
>>70440121
Another proof that you're not Danish.
>>70430058
>186% of the sales price in registry tax
Oh wow
>>70439784
That's because EU forces the sales tax to be uniform across all wares.
So we can't introduce healthy laws like lowering sales tax for fruits and increase sales tax for other things to compensate.
EU cancer strikes again.
>>70440153
Go to bed Pingo.
Sirius isn't even a real military branch.
>>70439328
Well, god gave it to us. Not you.
Dannebrog.
>>70440331
Forgot pic
As an american, i pay 25% federal, 8% state, local costs are mixed into rent so i dunno what the rate is here, as well as 7.5% FICA, as well as 8% sales.
It all goes to niggers ,both of the american variety and of the israeli variety. The government doesn't do shit for me.
>>70440153
Government owned/10
Hey Danes, how come you guys have bigger homes than other euros? I always see the comparisons of standard of living where Americans have way more living space per capita than other countries, but among Europeans Denmark is comparatively higher.
>>70439945
>rain
in germany you pay 1.31 euro/m^2 (0.14$/10,7639 ft^2) rain tax
>>70430058
My tax rate as an American making approximately 50k USD a year:
Effective federal tax rate after deductions and shit - 14%
State tax (PA nigguh) - 3.07% - state governor has a massive fucking hard-on to raise this
Local tax - 2%
Social Security - 6.2%
Medicare - 1.75%
>"Oh anon, you only get taxed 27.02%?! That's so much better!"
WRONG FAGET
Health insurance payroll deduction - 2% of salary
Student loan payment - 394 dollars a month (works out to roughly 9.5%) - this is on a modest student loan for a midrange state school, I actually only had to borrow for 2 years of tuition, everything else I paid with savings
That brings the amount of money I am paying for VASTLY INFERIOR PUBLIC SERVICES to 38.52%. As an American, I am literally netting less than a fucking shitbird in Denmark, only the difference is you can get neetbux if you want, I'm fucked for life if anything happens to me because I'm a white male and they don't get any social services at all here.
>>70440402
In the UK my father with no legs (car crash) is taxed 20% on his pension.
>>70440392
We might not be the biggest or most powerful country
But god damn i love my country so much
I love Denmark more than anything. I just wish we dident have such huge mountains. They make me dizzy!
This is the biggest and it is said that noone has ever reached its peak.
>>70440480
Smaller population and debt
>>70440046
we have nigs but not as many as most other countries.
still, it's easy to see effect of nigs in society even if they are few. I can easily tell when there are niggers nearby, I've experienced multiple incidents of hearing a group of coons enter a grocery store shouting and speaking loudly in their disgusting subhuman language. It's annoying and it actually scares the customers.
You ever think how much better off we would be without any niggers the amount of welfare they suck up is insane.
>>70440553
Sometimes it gets cold and dark...
>>70440556
I pissed on that tower during my time in FDF
>tfw not a real scout
seriously fuck all you hats and eurofags, all your gay taxes at least stay in your country. Mine goes towards protecting your gay asses from russians via ridic military spending, also niggers.
end nato, let these twinks defend themselves.
>>70430058
Paradise innit?
>>70438152
You would rather live in Denmark than in the most black and socialist cities in America? wew lad.
When you talk about the USA you need to understand that their decentralization allows for extreme socialism even if the Libertarian party ruled the country.
>>70440553
So do I, broder.
I cant even express my love for my country.
I love our cities, i love our nature, i love (most) of our people, i love our flag, i love our history, i love it all.
What's more is that the whites don't really mind socialism. Ted Cruz is campaigning on cutting the income tax in favor of a sales tax. Nordic taxation policies actually hurt normal people; the rich just travel out of country to spend money.
>>70440696
But then we just put up lights and make it cozy
>>70440827
Nice ID faggot
>>70433591
that sounds nice, what language do I learn to move to Swiss land?
>>70440121
And that's why you are paying 50% tax on your income you retard.
>>70430058
>>70430836
Holy fuck.
You guys are almost as bad as we are with all the tariffs and taxes one has to pay.
Only difference is we had Communism and War to ruin us further.
>>70440696
It does.
>>70440553
comfy
>>70440827
ok now, THATS COMFY
>>70440717
>Mine goes towards protecting your gay asses from russians via ridic military spending
I recommend that you do some research, because that's complete bullshit. The irony is that you send more money to RUSSIA as foreign aid, than you spend on the "defense" of entire Europe.
Kronborg
>>70440827
>>70440920
Yeah but we have money, you don't.
Can someone explain to me why after working my ass off everyday for years and buying a House for Money that was taxed I have to pay fucking another tax each year to the State for the land I bought with Money they taxed me?
And why is it that if I put Money aside after it being taxed and want to give it to my children it gets fucking taxed again as inheritance tax?
Fucking communist shithole, when the Oil in the north-sea runs out, lets see how the State will invent new taxes
>>70440807
> denmark¨
> nature
wat
>>70441095
Forgot pic again!
>>70439085
we'll never know
Once you start making more than $950 per year here, the government wants in!
>>70441095
>>70440920
Dont shit on Croatia dude, they are cool.
Is this the most comfy castle there is?
>>70441104
Because socialism is supposed to eliminate classes. You can't have peace and harmony when people have unequal wealth, no matter how hard they work or try to change this.
We know it doesnt, we know it just locks you in place; old money stays rich and nobody can ever get rich.
>>70441104
Feel free to move out of the country. You'll pay less taxes but your safety net will evaporate, so you better hope that nothing bad happens.
>>70439328
I don't know why you're complaining, their flag looks like shit and yours doesn't
>>70441115
>Sweden
>Swedish people
wat
Even our cliffs are white.
>>70440675
For example Japan.
https://www.dr.dk/tv/se/tv-avisen/tv-avisen-2016-03-31-3#!/10:57
But our News media are trying to bring focus to this now. I think they are trying to create some sort of outrage so Japan feels shamed to accept more muslim cancer into their country.
Well, technically they only made a neutral report, but in the videos you can tell the Japanese who are interviewed are pressured to feel ashamed their country aren't more humanitarian.
Anyway, at least Japan is safe for now, but it's apparent the media sees it as a wrong thing. And they are covering it as if it was a bad thing.
>>70441095
Yeah i know.
>>70441266
The man is telling the truth so it doesn't hurt really.
We didn't have an anti commie-purge during the 90s like Poland and Czechia because of the war with the Serbs.
Thus our economy remained in the gutter.
At least we have less than 60k muzzies in our country now so we can get rid of them over-night if there's a movement to do it.
>>70441414
wtf does that even mean?
>>70441318
People survive just fine without it.
Here in America where we are fat, non-white and have no health care our life expectancy is just 2% shorter, difference being we keep 20 to 30% more of our money.
Control for the blacks and there is no difference
>>70441531
It means it has a lot of calcium.
>>70441173
>>70441351
>Dannebrog looks like shit
Might be biased, but i think it's the most beautiful flag in the world, it has the cross and it's in a deep satisfying red and white color
>>70441318
Why not actually be responsible for your own money and invest it as you see fit? Build your own safety net.
>>70441538
the more telling statistic is the one measuring contentment/happiness. People like the idea of having a safety net, even if they might not need it.
>>70441593
ayyy
>>70441531
That the ethnic fabric of Sweden is being torn apart and by 2030-50 ethnic swedes will be a minority in their own country.
To be honest i am not trying to shit on you because Denmark is in a similar situation just less critical atm. We need to stick together. I view Swedes as my brothers, banter aside.
>>70441489
It's a good thing that japan's major political party the LDP is strongly Conservative in there migration policy.
I'm just afraid that they may like other european country's undergo a change where the conservative party is basically a liberal progressive party and the electorate are left with no choice. Other than between centre left and hard left policies.
>>70441318
>feel free to leave
>your safetynet will dissapear
Fuck you and your fucking faggot safetynet. We have free motherfucking education.
You Can literally sign up and get a physics / mathematics / software / Engineering PHD for fucking free, why the fuck do we need a safetynet.
To all burgers reading this post, an unemployed person can recive up to 3000 USD in welfare (dagpenge).
Why the fuck 80% all my salary go to lazy bums who drank alcohol all their youth and got STD's or singlemoms who work in a supermarked.
ACTIONS HAVE CONSECUENSES FFS
and no I'm never fucking leaving you enhedslisten degenerate, I'll stay here and vote against you until I die
>>70441950
I forgot to specify its 3000 USD a month in welfare
>>70441780
>the more telling statistic is the one measuring contentment/happiness
Suicide rates? Antidepressant use? Also when was the happyometer invented?
>>70430058
Leftist do not give a shit about that.
They are happy if the state provides everything they need to survive. The rest they just need a PC and internet connection as an hobby.
They are completely happy being slaves of the big friendly government.
>>70432691
>rain tax
WUT
>>70430058
>186% of the sales price in registry tax.
lolwat?
So a 40k car now costs over 80k when all is said and done to get it on the road?
>>70430058
kek you think you have it bad faggot dane boy?
>50 % tax on wages
>21 % value-added tax
>33 % inheritance tax
>33 % corporate tax
>additional taxes on home ownership, received alimonies, phd grants, received prizes etc
>if you fuck up your tax papers the police comes to your house, take your stuff and sell it
>>70441631
I especially like the deep red colors against the deep blue sky
Our flag is perfect for that
>>70430058
I read somewhere (I wish I still had the source) that the whole "Denmark is the happiest country" statistic was bullshit because it's rude to say you're unhappy in Denmark. When told they were the happiest people, Danes were surprised, as they thought everyone was kind of unhappy.
The reason the article put down for this is the amalgamation of the Danish people into one middle class, because is celebrates mediocrity, and that pride in something (e.g your kid is doing well in school) gets you icy stares.
Can any Dane confirm any of this? I might be thinking of another Scandi country but pretty sure it was Denmark.
>>70441950
>To all burgers reading this post, an unemployed person can recive up to 3000 USD in welfare (dagpenge).
That level of payment is incredibly rare. The average is around 765 USD per month. To get higher, you must have be diagnosed with a physical or mental disability.
It's always funny how little critics of our social security actually knows about the system and how it works. Your bitching and whining is always based on pure fantasies.
>>70440483
>>70432691
Are we talking things that exist in reality right now? I think I might've gone mad.
>>70441950
>everyone has as much support as I did when I went through school
>everyone has the same connections I did when I first tried to get work
>everyone else is just as smart as me, they're just lazy
You are a retard.
Thank Christ people like you have never been, and will never be anything but a vocal minority.
>>70442053
>3000 USD a month in welfare
Wait what the fuck. You make 36k by sitting on your ass?
>>70438328
Hngggggg
ITT cherry picking general
>>70441266
Imagine the smell. Yuck.
At least put some distance between your living quarters and the moat.
2/10 not comfy
>>70442143
Its perfect for everything.
>>70442056
we use a lot of anti-depressants because they are incredibly cheap (just like all medicine in our country), and yes our psychiatrists like to hand them out like candy, which is a problem. Anti-depressants do not make you happy.
You have a higher suicide rate than us, so I don't see why you bring that up.
>>70432132
>you're a traitor if you don't give half of your poverty tier income to the government!
>t.danecuck
for realsies? from what it looks like I think the danish government authorities are the real traitors.
>>70432691
>Most doctor appointments have long queues, so it's either pay private or wait 1-2 years (this number is not exagerated, depends on the treatment). All non standard services are paid extra in medicine. Most of prescription pills as well. There's an additional monthly fee if you don't want just the basic healthcare services (which cover pretty much NOTHING).
Holy shit SAME THING IN CANADA
And this is like 40% of province spending.
40% OF YOUR MONEY FOR SHIT YOU DONT USE
>>70441780
You suicide rate outpaces ours immensely.
When there is no risk there is no zest to life. You have everything but feel nothing.
They erect massive theme parks and casinos as a celebration of risk. People need that in order to feel alive and they pay top dollar to do it.
Ultimately, I can get a van for under 1000 and love off food stamps. A premium gym membership is $30/month. $90/year and I can play free roll poker tournaments, or $45 gets me an elks membership. Our safety net I'd the community of other WILLING participants and cheap automobiles. We have it and we get to keep more money.
>>70433367
to explain to you why colonel bernigger sanderstein is a terrible fucking idea.
>>70442412
Glad you like it
Here is another pic from same town. It's an old medieval town.
>>70441780
>People like the idea of having a safety net,
There is a safety net in 70% of the world's countries. Even shitholes like china typically don't have starving people.
The only difference is that you sacrifice 70% of your income for a safety net only 1% will never use that's barely more comfortable than the one you would get in a taxless place.
And yeah look at your suicide rates.
>>70442593
You sound like a vagabond trying to sell the idea of an objectively lower quality of life as something to strife for, because it makes you feel "alive".
>You suicide rate outpaces ours immensely.
Really? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
>>70442319
>muh support
>muh connections
THE STATE PAYS YOU MONEY TO STUDY AT COLLEGE AND PROVIDES YOU A FUCKING ROOM NEXT TO COLLEGE AND THE DEGREE IS FUCKING FREE WHAT MORE SUPPORT DO YOU NEED HOLY SHIT DO I NEED TO HOLD YOUR HAND WHILE YOUR WORKING IN ORDER FOR YOU TO PRODUCERE SOME FUCKING INCOME BY YOURSELF
FUCKING LEFTIES STOP ROBBING 80% OF MY PAYCHECK REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>70433367
To shit on socialism and show why it's bad.
Ask any slav about it.
90% of them will agree that we could have gone without that cuck ideology made up by Germans.
>>70442838
>And yeah look at your suicide rates.
>>70442593
>You suicide rate outpaces ours immensely.
>>70442056
>Suicide rates?
Since you cling so desperately to that argument, I would have expected you to actually look up the facts to support your claim. Only then you'd find that your rates are higher.
>>70442412
How about this? I was there last week. Comfy as fuck desu
>>70430058
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark
>Unitary parliamentary constitutional monarchy
Bernie wants to make USA into monarchy?
All hail king Bernie.
>>70442521
>You have a higher suicide rate than us
Do you have a black president?
>>70442319
The guy is right tho.
Not everyone has the same connections or support but you all get great opportunities and FREE UNIVERSITY EDUCATION AND COURSES!
Someone who can't find a job in these condition is bound to be an apathetic lazy fuck.
I'd kill for free UNI here since i had to drop out due to financial issues and will now emigrate to cuckmany so i have a chance for a diploma before i become a wizard.
>>70443074
And ours are high because of Greenlanders killing themselves left and right.
>>70442564
>long queues for specialized care
That's standard for every universal healthcare.
If they expand specialized care it won't be 100% full every day of the year so it won't be efficient.
This is how government healthcare keeps it "cheap".
If everything is 100% occupied all the time it's efficient, but there is a waiting line.
>>70442871
>>70443074
I will give it to you. Depending on source your country finally shows near parity with a dysfunctional ultra right dystopia country.
Congratulations. In a vacuum you are saying it is a wash, only you get to keep less moneY and have less cool shit.
>>70443125
Love Ebeltoft, have been celebrating christmas there a few times.
>>70442885
>greedy fuck getting assblasted
FYI, I'm currently enjoying this half year I've been getting government handouts, and spending it all on weed and vidya.
Keep working, wagecuck.
>>70443444
>FYI, I'm currently enjoying this half year I've been getting government handouts, and spending it all on weed and vidya.
Now that's just being an asshole.
>>70440806
Woah
RARE
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>>70443395
>>70440902
Either german, french or italian, depending on where you exactly want to live.
>>70443391
the level of rationalization you people go to is amazing. Gotta protect that American Ego™
Living standards in the USA really depend where you live.
If you're going to be an immigrant then you shouldn't count Detroit and other socialist nigger hellholes in the statistics because no sane man would ever move there.
>>70443444
>work +200 hours a week
>EY MAN YOU WANT TO KEEP MORE THAN A FOURTH OF YOUR INCOME TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY????
>FUCKING GREEDY RACIISSSSS
You see burgers, this post is why you should never vote for Sanders.
Imagine all the niggers and spics who would just spend 3000 USD a month welfare on fucking degenerate drugs and alcohol while your family is taxed to death.
All lefties are just lazy fucks that should die on the street starving.
>>70441631
Switzerland did it better
>>70444005
>3000 USD a month welfare
educate yourself. Literally takes 5 min in google how much people really get in welfare. Hint: it's not even close to $3k
>>70444005
The "European Dream" is to get everything while doing nothing. Getting the opportunities without every facing the responsibility. This is what is breaking our backs.
>>70444164
We have the cross of christ in our flag
Our flag is even the oldest falg in use today
>>70443603
Check out "Nysted" on Lolland. Its a great little city and it even has a small castle.
Pic related.
>>70444005
No matter who USA votes for, they will always have 30 times more open borders and international money masters. Presidents can't simply change all laws overnight and besides one can't loosen up US laws any further, only restrict them more, while Norway ain't loosen up anywhere near as USA.
>>70443444
And this is why Danes are getting all this money stolen from them. For lazy cucks like you who help feed the narrative necessary to the crumbling west.
>>70444369
Your country is also one of the bigger ones in the world.
>>70439317
When will we dust off the guillotine for Wynne?
>Live in Barrie
>Have some of the worst roads in all of Canada, no fucking joke
>>70444498
Here is the castle
Ålholm slot
>>70444549
We might be small but we make up for it in comfyness
>>70441266
All that water = all that mold. No windows. There is definitely so much mold in that place you probably can't breathe.
Looks cozy doe.
>>70433591
Come to Texas, our income tax is 0% (ZERO).
>>70444828
>>70444293
>Dagpenge (primary welfare goes up to 2 years after losing your job) is up to 19000dkk a month (2910 USD)
>kontanthjælp (secondary welfare given to shitskins and degenerates and single moms who haven't had a job for 5+ years) up to 15000 dkk which is 2300 USD a month
>>70433591
>oh yeh when you get kids be ready to pay like $3k in daycare. a month. but since im single and dont ever want kids its fucking paradise here.
>putting kids in daycare for the day
>letting them develop deep psychological weakness while being separated from their natural world
>being a single cuck
>>70444941
You're pretty big because Greenland is Denmark
>>70445055
That's a lot of money.
>>70445362
Oh yeah, the outpost.
Forgot about that.
>>70430058
Public media is nonsense. It's never "public". It's never private citizens getting a subsidy to produce media. It's always a government organ, and the citizens are forced to pay for their own brainwashing.
Literally the first thing I would ban as a dictator, even before immigration.
>>70445336
>>putting kids in daycare for the day
You can put your three-month old into daycare here, just in case you actually hate your child.
>>70444941
I think he is including Greenland. In which case we are one of the largest countries in the world.
>>70442114
Isn't it more likely that government fucks up taxes?
>>70445055
you're so full of shit.
>kontanthjælp 15000 dkk
HAHAHA
>>70445377
and it's bullshit. The retard is outright lying. Some people DO receive a lot of money, but they need to be mentally and/or physically disabled to qualify for it.
"Dagpenge" scales with your previous income, up to a MAXIMUM (read: a very small minority gets this) of 18k DKK (2.7k USD), BEFORE TAX. Tax easily takes at least 40% of that.
>>70445502
>Public media is nonsense
Our public media sector is huge. We have a couple dozen national radio stations and local television show, plus the national broadcast stations.
They don't just air news, they also produce shitty shows to fill the evening and you can watch 'big' sports events on TV. The licences are expensive as fuck, basically the reason why we need to pay €60 per household every three month.
>>70445699
>"Dagpenge" scales with your previous income, up to a MAXIMUM (read: a very small minority gets this) of 18k DKK (2.7k USD), BEFORE TAX. Tax easily takes at least 40% of that.
Wait a second, what nonesense is that. I get money from the government which is then taxed? Why don't they just give away 60% of the original amount and spare me the tax, it's just going in circles and costing money in processing.
>>70445910
>I get money from the government which is then taxed?
Don't ask me, that's just how it is. I guess it serves some bureaucratic purpose.
>>70432691
We have more or less same taxes all over EU and in USA they had that even before EU was created, after all we modeled EU after USA system.
>>70445910
More paperwork means more bureaucracy which means more justification for taxation, hence taxing the taxes going out means more taxes coming in. It's just a load of bullshit all around.
>>70445699
>kontanthjælp
>14416kr a month
http://bm.dk/da/Satser/Satser%20for%202015/Kontanthjaelp.aspx
Danish leftwing is even proposing that we dont buy New fighteraircraft and instead spend the Money on increasing the welfare because the other NATO countries will defend us lmao
They're also proposing that we increase the inheritance tax which is double tax as you've already paid tax on your fucking income once, to pay fooooor
YOU GUESSED IT! HOUSES FOR REFUGEES
These people have no shame
>>70445910
How else do government workers find employment?
>>70433591
How did you manage to move to Switzerland?
>>70445732
I'd support public media for small-scale stuff, like documentaries, or maybe special interest groups. Needless to say, the cost should be low, because it's running things that aren't even economically viable.
But instead, our public media is ran like a business, and lays claim to one of the most popular talk shows in the fucking country. So why the fuck isn't it on commercial television? Especially considering that the people involved get paid commercial television wages.
It reminds me of that British feminist cunt, who gets told off by that old faggot for demanding pay for her annoying appearances. That's what public media is like. Some of the worst people in the country getting paid loads of money to waffle their opinions at you.
It's around 88% tax here when you add it all together. Basically serfdom.
So I don't bother involving myself at all and I don't have a car (fifty gazillion % tax). Welfare is something like $1800 a month and I only spend around half because I don't want anything and I have no one to take care of. This is only embarrassing if you're part of society, but I'm not. Haven't spoken to a single norwegian other than saying hello to the store clerks for 15 years now.
>>70442976
>Germans
(((Germans)))
>>70446176
You can read right? It says you get 14.4k if you have children to provide for. You have any idea how expensive children are? And again, that's BEFORE taxes.
It's a complete bullshit to point at the highest possible welfare income as the standard for all welfare recipients, especially without mentioning how much disappears in taxes. The vast majority get around 765 USD. I have a mentally disabled cousin who gets 1220 USD a month, which is the HIGHEST she can get without having children.
The rules have also changed dramatically in the past 5-10 years, making it MUCH harder to qualify for welfare. To even qualify for the lowest amount, you need to show that you're actively seeking employment/being activated.
>>70446654
>Haven't spoken to a single norwegian other than saying hello to the store clerks for 15 years now.
That's some next level shit right there
>>70446654
>Haven't spoken to a single norwegian other than saying hello to the store clerks for 15 years now.
>>70446758
adding to this, it's also very important to point out that it's much more expensive to live in Denmark than in countries like USA, because we pay a minimum of 25% extra on EVERYTHING as "taxes"/VAT. Certain products, like alcohol, tobacco and cars are are taxed much more.
So no, no-one gets to live like a king for 765 USD a month when everything is expensive as hell.
>>70438328
*dies from White utopia*
>>70434794
>When you waste half your income on taxes you will have the right to call me lazy.
I do, because I make too much money.
You lazy fuck.
>>70446654
What.The.Fuck.
Dude, what are you doing??
>>70446758
And this is the reason why "De unge modre" (show about young mostly single mothers mostly consisted of stupid cunts on welfare) is doing so good.
If a child is oh so expensive don't fucking get one boo fucking hoo
>>70445043
Isn't that only state tax, as in you still have to pay federal taxes
>>70445043
Yeah but we have federal income tax still and property tax is a bitch here.
>>70447152
Your lives seem alien and full of stress, I just want to be alone.
>>70446654
What do you do for fun
>>70446176
>because the other NATO countries will defend us lmao
Why the fuck do leftists think this nonsense? EVERYONE in Europe is following shit policy like this. Do they honestly think the US will protect cuck countries like our just for the hell of it? Maybe if we're of strategic importance, yes. So you can be sure everyone living around your bridges to Swedistan is safe, but the rest? Not so much.
Fuck the left. Seriously. Those totalitarian, anti-Western cunts.
>YOU GUESSED IT! HOUSES FOR REFUGEES
It's always the fugees, isn't it? We've had major trouble with housing for ages, but did the left (the people's ideology) want to build more houses? Nooooooooo, just be content with renting a two-room apartment all of your life, you shitlord! But rapefugees? Give them mansions! How can you expect them to live in camps, like the fucking population on the move they are?
Fuck. The. Left. I'm seriously going full fascist on those bastards. Let's see how much they like it when they're on the receiving end. Money for immigrants? No, we need new fighters! Subsidies for activist groups? No, we need that money to build the prisons we're going to throw them in.
>>70447270
if a woman has custody (which she often gets for simply being a woman), the father is forced to pay alimony. It's the alimony that makes the big economical difference for single mothers, like on that piece of shit show.
>>70430058
This is France /Britbong tier government.
>>70446654
This shit right here is why I hate welfare and basic income. It encourages NEETism. I any other time in history this person would've been left to starve or die if they didn't pull their weight.
