Face it /pol/, capitalism is dead and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Socialism is the way to go.
Jesus christ
>script fonts mixed with block sans serif in the body text
> kerning and leading all over the damn place
> random lines not justified or sized correctly
These people can't even organize a flyer, much less a revolution.
>>70426703
>>70426320
You're able to type your message thanks to capitalism.
>>70427764
Actually, thanks to socialism.
>>70426320
Couldn't agree more.
>>70426320
Most of this has to do with infrastructure distribution and the exceedingly bad decisions of people and the leaders of poor countries, not capitalism. How does socialism get food grown in Indiana to sub-Saharan Africa on a regular basis? How does it prevent warlords from stealing it?
All those problems are in countries that are not capitalistic, faggot. Europe has none of those problems. I think the reason those issues exist in Africa and Asia are because the people are inferior and can't think ahead
There is no single chance for socialism in USA. No way, no how.
Your "nation" is too induvidialistic. Your media fiiling you with well-thought capitalistic propaganda. To make a social revolution and maintain socialism you must "turn you retranslators upsidedown" and process your population for decades or even generations.
Even then, if you cut some slack in propaganda, political education of the population or the elites - your socialistic country will perish. Just like Soviet Union did.
You have to form a true Men and Women like soviets did. Separate them from the cattle, make them fight their "my-own-hide intrests" nature.
This is really hard work. And Soviets failed it at one point.
>>70426703
/thread
>>70428251
No.
>>70426320
[spoiler]Third Position[spoiler]
>>70426320
What's better?
>A good system which knows it's going to make a mistake now and then, but it's fair
or
>A bad system which think it is the best thing ever and fundamentally infallible, but then fails every single time with catastrophic consequences
>>70426320
Did they factor in black people? Always factor in black people.
Is that image suggesting we give privately owned, vacant homes to homeless people?
That's funny, because global deaths and global poverty have been going massively DOWN since the Washington consensus began.
>>70429519
In this revolutionary society, where do you think you would be? Cattle, True Man or the one deciding who is cattle and who is true?
>>70428340
>Implying Leopold II did anything wrong.
>>70428340
Pinochet was a great man he dindu nuffin mup da do didda muh fugga get a job you whiny babby. Pic Related died from poverty.
>>70427119
The real autism is not understanding basic type setting. That poster looks like a ransom note, I mean changing font size and type mid-line multiple times? This is the quality workmanship of a socialist
>>70426320
The only thing socialism can do to prevent what was listed in the picture is solve homelessness. Every single fucking one statistic would become infinitely worse under a socialist economy. Centrally planned economies are very, very inefficient.
>>70428340
I know this is a shitpost but that's objectively wrong to blame capitalism for that.
>>70426320
Here's my defense of Capitalism:
Fuck you, leave me alone.
>>70426320
>feeding total strangers so they increase their population and you get no benefit whatsoever
good plan
>>70430233
usaf space station (mol), one of early selected crew was african american. died in a crash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Henry_Lawrence,_Jr.
>>70430151
A cattle who will evolve into a true man just like everyone else.
And
>deciding who is cattle and who is true?
There is nothing to decide. You talking about separating the nation. That's nazism. Or fascism. Right wing.
Communism is about unifiying, not separating.
>>70430917
>Fascism
>right wing
>Nazism
>right wing
In the US government has interfered with housing development. Ease of credit and subsidies into construction caused a bubble that crashed. That is why debt collectors are after people.
The image talks about food, reaches beyond the US where it's majority non-capitalist. Yet people still attempt to create markets, because the image also ignores the fact that the rate of starvation has reduced in the last generation.
This also ignores basic economics, supply and demand. Things in the market aren't created & sold at a 1 for 1 ratio, there is still the cost of production and distribution involved.
Things are actually getting better not worse:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm5xF-UYgdg
If you want the world to get out of poverty, HELP them get into the capitalism, they're locked out of the markets in the majority of the world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxd55k2w6tM
>>70430917
>"You have to form a true Men and Women like soviets did. ---Separate--- them from the cattle,"
>Democratize The Economy
Capitalism IS a democratized economy you retard, and you vote with the most powerful ballot in existence, the dollar. In every from Socialism has taken it has been totalitarian. You need direct control to steal other people's property.
>>70431000
>greentexting "ironically" on facts
>>70426320
Then why am I so content with my life? How does this country function so well if it doesn't work? Why do we have the highest GDP of any country and one of the highest standards of life?
It works right now exactly like alot of people want it to. The minority discontent with capitalism should go poison some other country with the cancerous ideology the deliriously think will hell them. PS I love how you are nitpicking capitalism for not being perfect when you can nitpick more of the failings of socialism. There is no perfect solution but this one has constantly proved to be better than all the alternatives you commie fuck.
>>70431120
My English is not that good, I meant "to separate their animalistic part"
>>70426320
People in impoverished countries only go hungry because their shitty, nigger govt's take all of the food for themselves.
It isn't capitalism's fault.
Why don't we pull up the death toll of socialism. I believe Mao's "Great Leap Forward" killed 120 million people due to starvation. And that's just one socialist shithole.
>>70430233
>Wezium Kingsit
>We um kings n shit
>>70426320
>posted from my iphone7
>>70428251
Are you implying the internet's expansion to the masses was because people wanted to redistribute finances to appease a model set by society's poor minority...
>>70428340
>Pinochet
>"""innocents"""
>>70431286
Hair dye
>capitalism
Nose ring
> capitalism
Lipstick
>capitalism
Nail polish
>capitalism
iPhone
>capitalism in the highest
Make-Up
>capitalism
Honestly, most of these fucking anti-capitalist tumblrites look like this.
>>70426320
Bitching about regulations and keynesizm. Blame Capitalism. Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
Yeah guys you should become socialists. I mean what could possibly go wrong, it always works!
>>70431617
It's a parody made by the coal-burner Shoe0nhead
>>70426320
>Most powerful countries in the world are capitalist
>Doesn't work
This must be b8
>>70426320
>Soros funded leftist propaganda
nope.jpg
OP is a faggot
>>70426320
This doesn't apply to democracy though, socialism isn't the way to go. But a social democracy would be the way to go, who here agrees?
>>70430856
That was actually pretty interesting, thanks anon.
Why can't they make a movie about him? Sounded like a badass.
>>70430233
>Kingsit
>King
>KANNGGZZZ
>>70426320
>blames capitalism for logistics not being able to feed everybody
>WANTS TO ENACT THE IDEOLOGY THAT IMMEDIATELY RESULTS IN EIGHT FIGURE STARVATION DEATH NUMBERS DUE TO AWFUL LOGISTICS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>70432028
No , democracy doesnt work.
>>70432259
Why? Please inform me. Seriously, tell me a time when social democracy didn't work?
>Feed those 868 people
>In a generation the agricultural production will go from being able to feed 1.18 times the global population to being unable to feed even the majority of the population
>Give those houses to homeless people
>They get ruined detroit style and the people who you took those property from go into poverty
>Cancel the debts of all households
>Only the very rich can afford a house now
So this is the power of Communism..
>>70432389
1930's Germany
>>70432136
>Chavez
NO TOILET PAPER KEK
>>70432464
>>70432259
So then tell me, what would work?
Everytime "socialism" gets a foot inside, the rich gets even richer, low and mid tier entrepeuners/comapnies aren't produced in the society and everyone is forced to buy the products made by the same conglomerates, retails monopolies start to flourish because they sell cheaper, a cash flow has just been injected and the poor can now experience a increase "quality of life" wich eventually ends in a period of 10 years tops as prices rises and everything goes shit. they buy and buy all the products they can, because the influx of money is just enough for them to buy, not to save or they are too stupid or shit consumierist culture ( see americans getting evicted of their cardboard homes because they credit went to shit ).
On the side, the mid class starts to shrink more and more, until eventually we have a elite of fucking industrialist and retail capitalists and a huge poor base of people, basically modern feudalism.
i mean go for justin bernie xdddd lmao blaze ittt
>>70432389
Didn't Greece just go bankrupt?
>>70432136
Venezuela really should be removed from any sort of comparison.
When the leader claims to have been visited by the previous leader in the form a small talking bird the failure is sure to arrive regardless of ideology.
>>70426320
Without capitalism, the current global population wouldn't even be supportable.
>>70432686
Capitalism.
>>70429906
>le ebin niggers don't count meme
>>70430824
>functional people don't improve the economy
One and only reason
TADA
THE NIGER INFESTATION!
SOOON
WHITE MAN SLAVERY
>>70432956
Fuck you kike. I'm trying to talk to some enlightened people
>18 million die each year from poverty related causes
As a fraction of the global population that's becoming smaller and smaller. Mind you, most poverty related deaths are not even in capitalist first world countries.
>868 million people go hungry
Again, just how many of them are in capitalist countries? Additionally, they're a smaller part of the global population than before.
>5 vacant homes for every homeless person in the US
Given that the US population is continually rising as a result of births exceeding deaths as well as immigration, the property market is simply remaining one step ahead by ensuring there is housing ready for an inevitable tenancy. Also consider that USA has the third largest population in the world.
>77.5% of US households in debt
Debt alone is not a terrible thing, not being able to meet the requirements of it is. If you cannot handle your debts, that's a sign of your own shortcomings when engaging in voluntary exchanges.
>Capitalism doesn't work
Name one single economic structure that has done more to help humanity than Capitalism. Capitalism has within China alone raised hundreds of millions of people out of poverty since China's economic reformation in the late 70s/early 80s.
>>70431122
>capitalism is democratic
wat
>socialism is inherently totalitarian
You're a moron.
>>70431274
>120 million
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOnIp69r6vg
>>70433130
I am enlightened. Notice how you have no counter argument? Capitalism has made the standard of living for humans lucky enough live as part of the system exponentially better.
>>70431198
You're better off than many people. A large number of people don't even have adequate nutrition or medical care in this country.
>>70433369
Refer to OP's post.
>>70432389
Every single country it has been tried
European socialism only kind of works because the US pays for all their defense
>>70431466
ebin meme
>>70431524
>le ebin Pinochet dindu muffin he a good boi he bin gettin his country on track
>>70433212
This is true though. Every socialist country doesn't have democracy, because if they do they know people will vote for capitalism. Which ends up seeping in anyways in black markets.
Capitalist countries are often democratic, because people know capitalism pays the bills and keeps the party going.
>>70428251
>left is right
>free is unfree
>life is death
I love this opposite world they live in
>>70431884
Who advocated Venezuelan socialism/Chavismo?
>hint: nobody in this thread
>>70433419
>A large number of people don't even have adequate nutrition or medical care in this country.
well that is a complete lie
The US is the only country where the vast majority of the "poor" are obese
>>70433428
What about it? Every other system is exponentially worse. There wouldn't even be enough food to keep the current world population alive without the capitalism fueled industrial revolution.
What points do you think are particularly damning in OP's post?
>>70432136
I was about to say
>inb4 people bitch about Chavez and ignore the other 90% of the image
But I see I'm too late.
>>70433551
>>70433487
>>70433419
>>70433212
>>70433125
>>70433115
>>70433014
How much do you get paid per post?
>>70433583
The fact that 18 million people die a year!!! That's fucking horrible, face it, we need some sort of Democratic socialism, or social democracy to fucking feed these people, it's fucking sick!!! I mean capitalism sounds like a good idea, but it's not!!!
>>70433196
Many of the starving countries are kept poor because the capitalist countries rely on their cheap labor and resources.
Also, Mao raised China out of poverty just as much as Deng. They just rose to different points.
>>70433746
>The fact that 18 million people die a year!!!
Of capitalism related causes? I doubt it.
Niggers in Africa don't count, they're niggers.
How many famines have occured in industrialized capitalist countries over the past 100 years? Hmm?
>>70433746
>blames world problems that existed before capitalism on capitalism
This has to be some kind of fallacy
>>70433583
That isn't even a good thing. We should decrease the amount of people, not the opposite.
>>70432389
in the last 10 years? sure.
>iceland
>sweden
>italy
>spain
>portugal
>greece
upcoming social rifts/unrest via "social democracy" not representing the people:
>germoneys
>francia
>uk
monarchies are top-tier, desu
>>70433464
Western Europe hasn't been in military danger for decades. US contributions to NATO are just something that conservatives like to bitch about.
>>70426320
>77.5% of US households spend more than they can afford
>therefore capitalism is bad :(
>>70433897
No fucking idea kiddo, all I know is that socialism, works, and has in the past,
(refer to this post >>70432136)
And that capitalism, obviously isn't working for America. Let's be honest here pal.
>>70433962
The retard fallacy
>>70433746
the reason why more people do not starve to death is b/c of capitalism. this is objectively true.
lines of bread > bread lines
tl/dr: fuck off commie
>>70426320
Literally none of that has to do with capitalism
Lazy commies can get fucked
>>70434052
>all I know is that socialism, works, and has in the past,
Lol where?
>(refer to this post >>70432136)
You do realize that every single one of those regimes were either
-short lasted (less than 3 months)
-horrible catastrophes which resulted in widespread famine and poverty (and lack of toilet paper)
Could you give me the actual name of a successful socialist country?
>>70433746
>The fact that 18 million people die a year!!!
?? There are nearly 7 billion people on earth anon. Is it really shocking that 0.2% of them die every year? Is that really so bad? I'll bet almost all of this is in shit holes like africa too. These are by all accounts poorly run countries, that would be poor under any system.
>to fucking feed these people
We do feed these people. Never notice how some of your taxes go on international aid? The problem is you can't avoid people dying of famine and shit just by sending aid. Let's say there's a famine in africa, and we send loads of aid. Deaths are avoided, yay. 3 years later there's another famine, and there's more people too because the people we saved last time had children. Then another one 10 years later, even more people to feed. You can't feed more people than the local economy can sustain, there's absolutely no system that can avoid that happening.
>>70433962
>We should decrease the amount of people
go on..
>>70434083
People don't starve to death because of capitalism? Dude, I can pull up many source's right now, you have no citations, so fuck off kiddo
http://www.poverty.com/
>>70426320
Capitalism works just fine. It's democracy that doesn't work.
When people can vote themselves other people's property, it will always be a regression down into the poverty and slime of socialism
>>70434163
Chile, in the past though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Allende
>>70434323
>Dude, I can pull up many source's right now,
Let's see them.
The most horrible famines of the 20th century all happened in socialist countries : in Mao's China, Stalin's USSR, Pol Pot's Cambodia, the DERG's Ethiopia, etc.
>>70433489
The USA has terrible gerrymandering and disenfranchisement, and elections are placed strategically at times difficult for poorer workers to arrive. Absentee ballots exist but aren't widely advertised. The result is that something like 40% of the country votes.
>>70433560
Go to nutrition 101. Obesity is an excess of general calories. It has nothing to do with whether or not those calories come from having adequate nutrients. Eating red meat and refined grains all the time will leave one with lots of excess calories but notable deficiencies in nutrients like vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants.
>>70434323
>http://www.poverty.com/
All poor countries.
People are more likely to die in spite of capitalism, not because of it. Capitalism countries tend to not be so prone to mass starvation due to famine like socialist countries.
get in here for a random redpill
>>70433648
>>70434083
Massive amounts of the bread produced are just thrown away because people can't buy it.
>>70434431
Are you a moronic nigger or just an underage redditor who discovered /pol/ last week?
Allende was one of the worst leaders of the 20th century. Under him, the economy contracted 3% annually and inflation skyrocketed. He makes Chavez look like an economic success.
>>70433962
Modern capitalist societies have birth rates under 2. It's the ex-communist and national-socialist shitholes that have people breeding like rabbits
>>70434166
>Is it really so bad?
Sadist, opinion discarded into the trash, just like you, a piece of human garbage who only cares about himself.
>>70434455
So why don't poor people just buy enough shit food to get enough calories and spend the rest on healthy food?
Also healthy food is cheap as fuck. You just need to have some self control and not be a lazy piece of shit.
>>70433964
>Portugal
>Social democracy
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>70433746
Then start a fucking charity that grows food to feed those people. Why do you feel entitled to steal from others?
>>70434601
You're the one who want to take down the system that stops even more people from dieing.
>>70428340
Capitalists just say that dispite all its failures, capitalism is the best tool we have against mass poverty.
>>70426320
Lol'd. There's a russian anecdote that basically says: if you implement socialism in Africa you will run out of sand.
>>70434083
Many African countries are capitalistic. Also Britain in 19th century was as capitalistic as one country could be
>>70433964
portugal is a corruptocracy
>>70434452
I just did, look up poverty.com
>>70432389
Check out how the US national debt, poverty, and unemployment, and single mother problem has increased as the number of social programs has increased.
>>70434452
All happened after revolutions that shock completely the status quo of a country. If you dig in deep you will find that it is quite common
>French revolution
>My country republican revolution (1910)
And many others
>>70434904
>poverty.com
What am I meant to be seeing here?
>>70434904
>http://www.poverty.com/
That's not a source you fucking idiot. What are you, twelve? Jesus.
>>70434776
They are also niggers
>>70434452
Pol Pot was, by all accounts, an exception among socialist countries. He systematically dismantled banks, schools, factories, infrastructure, and currency and forced everyone into villages of slave farmers. That's the exact opposite of what Stalin, Mao, Hoxha, etc did. While Stalin and Mao killed a few dozen million in famines total, they actually STOPPED cycles of famine that had plagued their countries for centuries. The USSR had no famines after the mid 1940s.
>>70434971
>All happened after revolutions that shock completely the status quo of a country.
That's not true. The holodomor happened 10 years after the revolution. The great leap forward 15 years after the chinese revolution.
You're a lying nigger leftist, like all leftists. Lying nigger.
>>70434776
And they were prosperous when run by whites. Just not by blacks.
>>70434974
The amount of people who die from poverty every day.
>>70434521
waste is unfortunate but who cares? waste is detrimental to a company's bottom line, so their ability to financially suffer from poor management is infinitely more of an incentive than some minister apologising for not having enough bread on state media.
>>70434323
the worst famines have occurred in commie/socialist countries. those that occurred in what you would classify as "capitalist" countries are ones with cultural restrictions and government interference. restricted markets help create dissent and ruins the best-we-have systems of capitalism.
Even if everything you said was true, it doesn't matter. It is objectively better to be capitalist and let some suffer than most/all suffer.
see: singapore, hong kong, vietnam post-2013. basically all of semi-free asia.
>>70434676
>2011
>vote in a socialist
>edging out votes from TWO looney-left parties, the socialist party and the communist party
you've gotta be kidding m8
>>70426320
The first fact doesn't occur in first world nations. Only impoverished nations where leaders reject free trade experience poverty related deaths.
The 2nd fact is because we feed some of our food to our food. If you want everyone to go vegan, just say so. It'll help end world hunger, and cut down on greenhouse emissions. Either way, this has nothing to do with capitalism.
The homeless fact is a good thing. Wouldn't you rather have more homes than homeless, rather than the other way around? This is such a retarded thing to complain about.
And of course 77.5% of homeowners are in debt. Do you think people should be required to pay for their house in one lump sum? Debt can be a good thing, it allows people to make investments which benefit them. Again, this one is retarded.
This whole image is retarded and just proves how naïve socialists are
>>70426320
Something doesn't work, so lets use somethink even less effective! Noice.
>>70435031
>He systematically dismantled banks, schools, factories, infrastructure, and currency and forced everyone into villages of slave farmers.
He was a true socialist, then?
>hat's the exact opposite of what Stalin, Mao, Hoxha, etc did. While Stalin and Mao killed a few dozen million in famines total, they actually STOPPED cycles of famine that had plagued their countries for centuries.
A cycle of famine which killed 10 times less people than the communist famines...
Seriously, find me the worst russian famine of the 19th century. It's peanuts compared to Stalin's famines.
And anyways, you know what countries stopped having famines WITHOUT killing millions of people? CAPITALIST COUNTRIES
>>70433897
>>70434988
>le ebin niggers aren't human so they don't count meme
>>70428251
I didn't know that 4chans servers were property of everyone.
I thought they were privately owned, funded by ad space and 4chan passes.
>>70434787
Couldn't say any better. As long as the corrupts get what they need, we could be a fucking fairytailcracy.
>>70435082
So.. how does this compare as a % of population to socialist countries? Because i just see a list of people who are tracked to have died in the last hour. Sort of doubt countries like north korea show up here either.
>>70435188
>le I'm a niggerloving redditor posting from my cuckshed meme
>>>/out/
>>70434776
>africa
>not unmitigated restrictions on every conceivable market
>nationalise industries when it's a politically popular move
>heavy-handling industry when it suits them, which is every week
and I get all that information from my weekly copy of left-wing economist. sure thing m8.
>>70434787
>implying all democracies are not
>>70434787
Socialdemocracy creates all the incentives for corruption.
>>70434323
The difference is in capitalism you starve if you're lazy, in socialism you starve because the lazy guy sits in the government and orders your food to be given to him. With time, government gets bigger until socialism implodes. If you survive until then.
>>70434452
You forgot millions died in North Korea from the 90s to now
>>70435188
When niggers progress past living in mud huts, then they can count in first world debates.
>>70426320
NatSoc is the only way.
>>70435202
>Arguing semantics
>Commit suicide.
>All of the deaths were hunger and poverty related, jump off a bridge sadist cunt.
>>70435050
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%9333
That was due to the collectivization, part of the revolution.
>The great leap forward 15 years after the chinese revolution
This i cannot defend, Mao was a mad men. After this he was pushed out of power by more sensible communist party leaders. And then Hunger pretty much stopped after that.
>>70434455
Yes, obese people are clearly starving.
Typical leftist logic right there.
>>70435427
>That was due to the collectivization, part of the revolution.
The revolution happened in 1918, the civil war ended in 1922. The holodomor happened TEN years after.
Did you know that 1931 was actually the most productive year for soviet agriculture since the revolution? Funny, right?
Stupid nigger, you should be shot
>>70435405
He literally never once argued semantics. You're just a pseudo intellectual who is trying to denigrate your opponent, but you're making an ass of yourself in the process.
Do you even know what semantics is?
>>70426320
You won't get much appreciation on here. This board is full of good goy classcucks too blind to see the truth. Gulagworthy.
>>70435405
>Arguing semantics
I don't think you know what that word means. I'm specifically asking you for a way I can compare these statistics with those of socialist countries. What good is the site otherwise? All it is is proof that people die in poverty in capitalist countries. Which was never in dispute.
Compare north and south korea for example. You think more people die in poverty in the south than the north?
>>70430233
>died of poverty
>>70435055
They weren't prosperous. Most niggers still lived in poverty. They were prosperous to a small clique of importers
>>70435096
Se és Portugues podes falar portugues. I don't understand what you are saying. In 2011 PSD and CDS won the election, considered part of the "right".
>>70435479
there's a difference between starving and malnutrition. do you think obese people are healthy?
>>70435630
>They weren't prosperous.
they were.
>Most niggers still lived in poverty.
Your point?
>>70435180
>Seriously, find me the worst russian famine of the 19th century. It's peanuts compared to Stalin's famines.
I tried to find. But in those days there were no accounts of this stuff.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire_Census
There was only 1 census in Russian empire history.
>>70435544
>the Soviet Union had everything figured out and completely set up their nation by the end of the civil war
Are you retarded? The civil war was just to allow the Soviets to get into power. That's when the political overhaul began, not when it was finished. Nation building takes time, and it certainly wasn't happening during the war.
>>70428340
But shooting random people is not a fault in capitalism and it doesn't pursue moral high ground other than certain degree of economic freedom.
>>70426703
Hi /gd/, how are things?
>>70435696
They are neither starving not malnourished you retard.
This is starving, and wonder of wonders, it happens all the time in socialist and authoritarian regimes
>>70426320
Ok you do socialism. But if you try to force it on me and try to steal my money things arent going to go well for you
>>70435738
African people still lived in poverty. The only people being enriched by colonies were a small clique of importers/exporters.
>>70435630
>Literally have socialism in their name
>Right
Whenever your leaders don't deliver 100% pure communism because even populists know that communism will lead to comparative poverty with other countries and mass decapitalization, you label them as not left enough.
In Portugal even the supposed right wingers have a spending of over 50% of your GDP. So much for "not a social democracy".
>>70435569
You mean most of this board is older than 15?
>>70436022
Chinese ruling party have communist in their name. Is china communist?
Social democracy is not big gov spendng
>this many capitalist pigs around here
>>70428340
>Capitalism has never been tried
Except for almost every successful country on the planet 9/10 I fell for this bait
>>70436022
There's no such thing as leaders when there's 100% pure communism. It's a stateless, classless society.
This is why it's a pipedream.
>>70435630
I don't get it. They literally call themselves socialist.
I know Europe is deluded in how far left they have gone, but are you so far looney-left that you think socialists are on the right? Even by their actions, can you ever call a socialist a ring-winger?
truly is worrying, considering most portuguese I have ever met were nice people, christian, and hard-working.
>>70436197
China is like 40% Communist, 40% free market, and 20% corporatist.
>>70426320
Socialism can only work if everyone is smart and rich. Sadly most of humanity are poor retards.
>>70435841
>>70435569
I live in a socialist country, mind swapping places with me, faggots?
>>70436049
These retards don't even know that after Stalin's death soviet union was on the verge of mass starvation 4 times, each time the proposed agricultural reforms were rejected as capitalist and soviets instead started importing grain from Canada by selling crude oil. By late 80ties Soviet union was so dependent on food imports that when oil prices collapsed Soviet Union followed suit.
>>70436502
>socialism can work if everyone is rich
>People become rich by the virtue of their economic system
>socialism can not make anyone rich
>therefor socialism does not work
interesting
>>70435829
>tried to find. But in those days there were no accounts of this stuff.
Yes there were.
You're just a retard nigger. Oh well, I'll help you. This is the worst russian famine in the 19th century : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_famine_of_1891%E2%80%9392
It killed 500 000 people. That's right. The worst famine in feudal, illiterate and pre-industrial Russia killed 10 times less people than the Holodomor.
>>70435841
>Are you retarded?
Are you?
>That's when the political overhaul began
I agree, it was only after the civil war that the soviet government could enact its retarded policies which would eventually lead to the murder of 20 million people.
>Nation building takes time,
Worst excuse ever. You know which countries "nation builded" without murdering its population? CAPITALIST COUNTRIES. Japan, for instance, industrialized without massive famines and gulags. You know how? CAPITALISM.
KILL YOURSELF COMMIE NIGGER FAGGOT
>>70426320
>18 million die each year
>no evidence if it's only in capitalist countries or the entire world, which includes socialist and communist and other non-capitalist countries
>77.5% of us households are in debt
>how many of those are because people are pants-on-head retarded when it comes to spending money, rather than because capitalism as a system doesn't work
>using an infographic for starting a thread
>3 posts by this id, none of which provide any facts or defense of their position aside form an infographic
Sick bait thread, got my reply.
>>70428340
You know the original version of this meme was aimed towards communists who literally say that Communism has never been tried before.
What kind of Capitalists have you talked to that say it hasn't been tried?
Another thing is that it's been proven that the best way to get rid of Communists is to kill them, sorry.
Also
>Pinochet
>Innocents
top bantz m9
>>70432136
>Dubček relaxes the communist policies of the country to improve conditions
>proving that communism works
>>70436645
Wtf are you talking about? I wasn't defending the Soviet Union. You were.
You really are retarded.
>>70437526
>You were.
Where? Kek! Every single one of my posts has been anti-communist!
You really are a braindead nigger, aren't you? Nigger nigger nigger nigger.
>>70433212
Capitalism is democratic, a business cannot survive if people do not support it.
You're probably one to think corporate bailouts and the Fed are products of capitalism.
>>70436384
They call themselves to get votes. They are the same.
> know Europe is deluded in how far left they have gone
What do you mean? Europe is different. But in general we are going right in economic point and left in social.
>Even by their actions, can you ever call a socialist a ring-winger?
By your definition of right-winger (hate niggers) i am a right winger socialist.
>>70436435
China ois one of the most capitalistic countries right now. China cannot be communist because they are not stateless.
>>70436645
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_famine_of_1891%E2%80%9392
Estimatives. And it's really hard to make a death tool estimate without a census. And the famines were different.
>>70426320
>Comes to a Socialist-Fascist board to say capitalism is shit
WE KNOW
>>70438752
>a cuckservative forum eco-chamber
FTFY
>>70433212
Not an argument.
>>70438808
t. Alberto Barbosa
