>that kid who refused to say the pledge of allegiance in class
Why did they do this? I can understand not wanting to pray or whatever, but what would a kid have against his own country in a time where the country was great?
>>70404042
I would refuse to do it just to stir up shit with my teachers. They knew they couldn't do anything about it because our school was considered top notch and they didn't want any controversy in the media
You have 20 seconds to say the pledge of allegiance or your dog dies tomorrow
>>70404203
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all
Also, fuck you.
>>70404176
This. Also because it had god in the pledge. I was beaten 'religiously' as a kid. There was no god then. There is no god now.
>tfw that kid was me
The government puts me in shitty schools and wants me to pledge allegiance to it? fuck that
>>70404203
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all
>>70404042
Like anyone remembers how it goes after the first two lines.
Wait do americans have to non ironically take the pledge of allegiance in school?
>>70404042
I was an edgy fedora tipping faggot
I did that.
I was just an edgy cunt. Lived in a pretty conservative area, I was a commie for the lulz. Ironically, I'm pretty conservative and patriotic now.
Guilty
Pledges are gay
Also since they shoehorned "Under God" in I refused to say it
lefedoramaymayhuehuehuehue.mp5
>>70404042
they dint even know why they just wanted attention
I had a teacher once who would went off on this dude that refused to do it. He claimed it was because it said God or some shit like that
>>70404042
>Have to pledge allegiance to the country
Why is USA so unsecure?
>>70404042
Do you still do the pledge in the US.
>>70404332
I went to a public, secular school. Our class did the pledge of allegiance every day. This was normal for k-12. Nothing like this at university though.
>pledging allegiance to the government
Retards
I never said the Pledge after i turned 18 and didn't for some times before.
The reason why? I found it dishonest.
>I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America;
Okay fair enough; straight forward. But lets see what comes next.
>And to the republic for which it stands.
Okay this is kinda starting to get BS. Yes we are technically a republic but it is no longer a fair republic. Is the public represented much anyone? I don't think so. Doesn't seem like much of a republic to me then unless you are wealthy.
>One Nation
Yeah, okay that is true. But every nation is one nation
>Under God
I don't believe in god and if i did i don't know if America would be his favorite nation right now... kinda doubt it.
>Indivisible
IDK. It did divide for a while and frankly seems fairly broken up and divisible to me.
>With liberty and justice for all
Now that is laying it on pretty fucking thick.
kek I used to be that edgelord
now when people bring it up, I say I'm a Jehovah's Witness, actually ended up having to go to church a few times tbqh
>>70404384
insecure*
>>70404042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gF0M_yfkzQ
>>70404441
That's fucking stupid, you should never pledge allegiance to the government, only your people.
You're pledging allegiance to a government that would happily send you to go die for oil profits
>School made us pledge to American flag and salute state flag.
>Can't remember state flag salute.
Oh well, got the one that counts.
>>70404436
of course
in high school it was the emo/punk wannabe kids. that was 2007ish time frame though and i know the emo movement sort of had this narrow window before turning into some sort of weird vampire or werewolf faggots after i graduated
>>70404042
Because it's cringey.
I never did. Why would I recite words I don't actually mean? That's just dishonest. The meaning of the Pledge was lost a long time ago. It's like marriage. No one knows why people get married but do it anyways because it's a tradition. The meaning of marriage was lost long ago.
I'm not going to lie to myself.
>all these edgelords who refused to say the pledge
>most still refuse it
You don't deserve to live in America, especially not when Trump makes it great again. Why don't you move to Canada if you hate America so much, you spineless fucking lowlifes?
>>70404042
>Why did they do this? I can understand not wanting to pray or whatever, but what would a kid have against his own country in a time where the country was great?
That kids family is probably here illegally... or worse, is a refugees.
as a fascist who believes firmly in totalitarianism, these kinds of authoritarian memes are pleasing to my sieg heiling ears.
I make sure to notify this sensation of elation to American democratics/republicans in the hope that it would inspire some soul searching. Maybe they can decide whether they want a militarist empire ruled by an iron fist or a soggy eurosocialist hegemony because it seems to me they can't decide.
>>70404516
I'm not saying it's ok. That's just what they made us do. Not that it made a difference in my thinking or actions, but watching everyone else robotically recite it was odd. It was Orwellian almost. I imagine that's how people swear loyalty to the Party in 1984.
>>70404042
It's disgusting how little people respect their own country, it's all this muh individualism
I remember being in basic training for the Army and these two Scot's refused to sing God Save the Queen. Which yeah if you're a separatist Scot then fair enough, you might be a retard but at least you have principles. these guys however where in the British Army, and in order to join it requires you to swear an oath to the Crown.
>>70404042
Because I don't swear my allegiance to symbols or the state, fucktard.
That's idolatry.
>b-but people died to protect that flag
They died to protect my right to sit on my ass during a pledge in a public school whose attendance is compulsory to be taught by people who haven't had their morning coffee and would rather not be there.
>>70404042
because i used to be an edgy faggot who didnt pledge because of "muh God" still feel like shit about it, but i feel like im too lost to repent anymore.
then i changed and realized, i would pray to God, but never pledge allegiance to the God forsaken country of evil known as "murrica. fuck this shithole and fuck you
>>70404514
>america owes everything it has to other nations and other cultures
WE WUZ FOUNDIN FATHERS N SHEIT
>>70404729
>British cucks still swear loyalty to an inbred impotent monarchy
kek
>>70404203
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all
![KermitTheFrog-Photo[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2qQ99rY.jpg "KermitTheFrog-Photo[1].jpg")
>>70404042
>/pol/ hates globalism and multiculturalism
>likes nationalism
>thinks the pledge is stupid
LOL you faggots deserve eight years of Hillary
>>70404042
If you stood there saying the pledge of allegiance and you were over 10 you were a dweeb.
I wasn't expecting so many /pol/acks to be the special snowflake that remained seated during the pledge. A little disappointing actually.
>>70404763
nigger spotted
go back to africa
>>70404872
>>70404203
Can I cut the barrel on my shotgun instead since my dog gets killed either way
>>70404867
I wasn't expecting it either. It's no wonder America is in the shape it's in right now with winners like these.
>>70404777
The Crown is integral to a sense of British nationality. If you don't like the Crown then fine, more to Ireland or vote SNP like a good little Communist puppet, but don't swear a fucking voluntary oath to her and then act like an edge lord when people expect you to respect that oath
>>70404765
where did they find cheetahs in the desert?
>>70404042
Look at the European Union. Their number one goal is to destroy the concept of nationalism and replace it with third-world globalism.
>>70404833
The way you talk about it makes it sound like more kids did not say the pledge than those that did. Is that the case?
>>70404042
in the 80s that kid would have caught a beating at recess t b h f a m
this country was already great when it only had its original occupants. its been in decline ever since the white man first set foot on it and began its corruption.
>>70404332
You don't have to, they don't force you or anything.
The pledge is more of a reminder that we are Americans and to at least have some pride in our country.
That's about it really.
>>70404203
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all
>>70404949
Your "crown" is an utter failure
London is a 3rd world colony
>>70405015
>I turn my back on my country as soon as it needs help
Nationalism is dead because of faggots like you
>>70404042
Eh. I really didn't think much of the pledge allegiance as a kid, but when I got older it realized it was like political indoctrination.
Soviets did that kind of shit.
>implying this is that weird
They probably only do it in schools to make kids memorize it because it's important.
Besides, they aren't pledging allegiance to the federal government, they're pledging allegiance to the american ideal (Republic, one nation, liberty, justice)
Also fedoracucks who refuse to understand that when people say "under god" in the context of the government it means you're under the watchful eye of those around you.
God just represents judgement. Nothing particularly religious about it. Stop being edgy.
>>70405015
Great bait faggot
>>70404203
We, the citizens of Singapore,
pledge ourselves as one united people,
regardless of race, language or religion,
to build a democratic society
based on justice and equality
so as to achieve happiness, prosperity
and progress for our nation.
>>70405001
Somebody who attended high school within the last few years answer this for me. Are more kids sitting during the pledge than standing?
>>70404042
I didn't even learn the meaning of words like "pledge" and "allegiance" until I was already out of high school (thanks American public schooling), but if I had truly known what they meant, I would not have consented to saying them. I was fucked over by the system and I owe them nothing. My allegiance must be earned.
>>70404203
I started doing this but then I realized I don't have a dog
>>70405159
Nice memes faggot.
Britain may be in poor shape (still 5ths largest economy and punching well above our weight militarily) due to immigration and degeneracy, but I'm not the kind of faggot who turns my back on my country because the waters got a bit choppy.
And the crown is hardly a failure, internally crown profits improve the life of every Briton, externally the Commonwealth is still thriving and the sun is yet to set and there is no Diplomat in the world as Respected as the Queen, she even snubbed your white house nigger without consequence
>>70404042
I was an edgy leftist in high school, so I'm guilty. If I could go back I would pledge with pride
>>70404203
What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our race and our people, the sustenance of our children and the purity of our blood, the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may mature for the fulfillment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe. Every thought and every idea, every doctrine and all knowledge, must serve this purpose. And everything must be examined from this point of view and used or rejected according to its utility.
>>70405001
>>70405386
I graduated highschool in 2003 but yeah no one said it but a few model students. We all stood though, I think you had to stand or you would get in trouble.
>>70405496
Honestly, I am curious.
What has the monarchy done that was good in the last 20 years?
>>70405372
A democratic society? Singapore? Does anybody use that term honestly?
>>70404042
because fuck the union.
>>70405572
Singapore is 100% democratic. Everyone loves Supreme Leader and His party.
>>70404042
Well, in all honesty, if someone forced you to recite an oath to an imaginary creature every day, it would probably piss you off too.
>w-we're not brainwashed I-I swear, dumb Yuropoors lol
>>70405516
one day you'll leave your edgy 4chan-syndrome era and go back to being a leftist
>>70404203
i pledge allegiance to the flag michael jackson is a fag
>>70404042
I don't have an issue with saying the pledge once, but that's just it, its a PLEDGE; I said it once, I'm not going to say it again. What, do they have me say it every fucking morning so they make sure I don't turn defector in between now and the last time I fucking said it? It wastes people's time.
>>70405667
It's not an oath to God, it's an oath to your country, you stupid fuck.
>>70404042
Because I am not a fascist or a fetishist. In a Republic, if we pledge allegiance, it should be to the Constitution, not to the flag.
>>70405571
http://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/news-and-media/news/2015/another-record-breaking-year-with-285-million-return-for-public-finances/
>>70404042
Fuck the pledge, It's ridiculous that we had to say it every fucking day and it feels like something out of 1984.
Did anyone else ever have a speech given to you about the holocaust and why it should never be questioned and that Germans are evil?
>>70405552
What about after 9/11? Any increase in patriotism that you remember?
>>70405674
sure thing buddy
>In school only 2 people didn't pledge to the flag
>Some ghetto she-boon and some African Muslim bitch
digusting
>>70404203
I don't have a dog faggot.
>>70404042
I didn't do it because it is a hollow, frivolous ceremony. It carries as much weight as holding your hand on a bible and saying "I swear to tell the truth, so help me god."
It was pomp and circumstance for nothing.
>>70405766
god forbid someone dress and hold an ideology i don't like
b-but i'm not authoritarian or anything like those stormcucks guys
>>70404203
JOKES ON YOU MY DOG HAS ALREADY DIED
...shit.
>>70404042
I only skipped it because I was sick of doing it every fucking day.
Probably one of the fastest ways to convince a kid that patriotism is nonsense.
The last time I had to partake in the pledge of allegiance was probably in early grade school. For me it wasn't even an issue. It was those faggot edgelord parents that go "MY KID IS NOT PARTAKING IN THAT!!"
>>70405871
your opinions and idiotry are fucking stupid tho so off 2 camps
>>70405730
But they haven't spoken out against the mass immigration?
Im part british and its disgusting to me that these people might actually have been able to stop the mass immigration but chose instead to do nothing.
The fuck is the point of a monarch if they won't even speak out against the destruction of its own people?
I am 1/16 English and have more british pride than the Queen honestly, I would have not stood for the destruction of my people.
>>70404042
I preferred to be silent, stand at attention and salute, sissy.
I'm not sure how to feel about it.
On one hand, a little bit of unity and self-respect would be great.
On the other hand, the state doesn't actually care about you that much and pledging allegiance to a pack of politicians and their lobbyist overlords is sad.
If pledges/anthems could somehow cure the middle-class of their absurd self-loathing, I'd be all for it, though. If by saying a simple few words, you could slap straight those fucking chronically depressed losers who feel guilty about not being born into a life of aids and famine, as if it's somehow a bad thing.
Well shit, I'd be all for it.
Hitler was like that and being proud of your nation therefore makes you Hitler. Shrek your privilege, you fascist!
But no really, if it could cure that sort of bullshit thinking, I'd be all for it.
By the end of my senior year I was considered weird because I stood during the pledge.
Thanks Obama
I stopped during my edge lord years in middle school. If I had to go through school all over again, I probably wouldn't anyway because it's just a bunch of words to recite until they have no meaning. There's better forms of showing pride in your country than doing the pledge such as being a good citizen, thanking a vet, or learning about your nation's history.
I attended elementary school in a small town during the seventies. Everybody recited the pledge. No one refused. Simpler times.
At that time we were educated enough to no that the pledge was not to the government, but to the republic.
We were able to make basic distinctions back then.
>>70405386
2014 here (Yes I know I am a newfag)
Everybody stood and most said it.
But it was a DoD school in Europe...
>>70404042
>Why did they do this?
Probably because they're allergic to brainwashing.
>>70404042
They are JW.
It's idolatry
>>70405852
>It carries as much weight as holding your hand on a bible and saying "I swear to tell the truth, so help me god."
These days it is nothing for a man to break an oath. So, yes, it is pretty empty.
But it was not always so.
>stood but didn't really say it or pay attention
>enlisted
lol
>>70406056
*know
>>70406056
Get off 4chan grandpa
"One nation, invisible, under god with liberty and justice for all!"
>>70406176
>so help me god
I never really understood swearing on a bible. Does God not forgive you if you lie under oath or something? What's stopping someone from lying and then asking for forgiveness?
>>70404203 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all
>>70404203
I pledge of allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god with liberty and justice for all.
>>70404042
most kids in my highschool stood for the pledge and didint actually say it, myself included. im fairly sure most kids just went with the flow. some didnt stand because its cool to be unpatriotic these days.
>pledging allegiance to the republic of a nation and not the people
>>70405948
The Queen is suppose to be above politics and not comment, but honestly I think its a bit outdated from the days when Crown and Parliament kept stepping on each other's toes.
It's practiced more out of tradition now day's but the Royal Family's respect for the laws of the land are admirable.
>>70406256
indivisible* not invisible. which is one of the reasons i never did the pledge. the union is shit.
always stepping on states rights
>>70404042
>pledging allegiance to a flag
That's like pledging allegiance to a shoe.
>>70406089
Still good to hear.
>>70404042
Maybe because that country gave them the freedom to do what ever the fuck he wants including not say the pledge of allegiance
It's literally his freedom to not say it
>>70405746
Nah it didn't really phase anyone that I could remember. I was something to talk about for a few days but it didn't really effect people all that much.
>>70406176
You should ask Lyin Ted about that.
>>70404042
The pledge of allegiance is literally cult indoctrination tier brainwashing
Do you actually have to say that shit every single day at school?
>>70404351
Me too.
>tfw we can't do the extended arm salute anymore
>tfw gay hand on heart shit
shit sucks
>>70406259
Atheism wasn't really a thing back then. We didn't get all hung up over it.
>>70404261
>>70404351
>>70404448
>>70404617
>>70404745
>>70405217
>>70405411
>>70405667
>>70405692
>>70405736
>>70406107
>>70406421
>I hate the pledge
Then you must love the globalist ventures your country has partaken in. The mass immigration, outsourcing of jobs, and globalization of culture. Handing your finances to a shadowy private bank and spending your taxes on financing the 3rd world.
The people who lead these efforts also hate what the pledge stands for, the ethos that made a strong nation.
>>70406419
No you don't have to because you have the freedom not to
>>70406056
Where were you when you heard John Lennon died?
For me it was a nigger being all uppity about George Dubya being in the White House and "muh Katrinia victims" and all that shit
>>70406308
Wow u brits really are cucked aren't you?
Its "admirable" that they sit back and watch their nation burn.
>>70406362
Can't understand symbolism.
>>70405386
I volunteered for a year in a high school, even the edgy kids stood up and said it. There was one fedora atheist in the class I worked in, and this i in Washington very recently and you have that mindset that its all sjws. The school allows you to sit down also, so I think it's not that bad.
Why does it say the country is invisible in the pledge? Never understood that.
>>70404203
>I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all
I did that. I support our countrymen, but not our politicians, or justice system. If I had my way there would be a new flag flying over the white house.
>>70405386
probably 70% standing 30% sitting. depends on the class level and grade
>>70406320
>Muh states right
Fuck off faggot, you probably thought the articles of confederation actually worked.
>>70406443
The pledge is the kind of emotional ungrounded crap that got us here in the first place
People should only swear allegiance to virtues such as truth, integrity, courage and principles such as self-ownership and respect for property rights.
Swearing loyalty to a country (government really) is stupid, especially America which is made up of a shitload of races and cultures
>>70404176
>they didn't want any controversy in the media
Only someone who attended school post 2009 would say some gay shit like this.
Back when I was in public school it wasn't a 'thing' to bitch about something dumb and then have a media shitstorm and herald you like a hero(ie muslim kid with bomb clock BS)
>>70406560
Everyone stood and said the pledge here in Arizona, always, no exceptions.
Vietnam vets were hilarours teachers when some fag didn't say it.
>>70404042
to piss off the teachers
>>70404203
>mfw when i said it outload instead of typing it
>>70404203
I vow to you, Adolf Hitler, as Führer and chancellor of the German Reich loyalty and bravery. I vow to you and to the leaders that you set for me, absolute allegiance until death. So help me God !
>>70406563
Indivisible not invisible
>>70406655
>especially America which is made up of a shitload of races and cultures
explains your former statements
>>70404203
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
Heil Hitler.
>>70406637
If our country wasn't so fucking huge it would have. For small countries, confederations are some of the best forms of government if you're really into states rights, my man.
I fucking hate the south for losing the war and ruining the term "Confederate" as a political ideology.
>>70406448
It's hardly freedom when they bring in old wheelchair veterans to guilt children into standing up because muh war hero can't anymore
>>70406452
I didn't give one single shit about john Lennon. I was into Black Sabbath, Zeppelin, and Van Halen. In fact, I couldn't stand listening to his solo shit. That was what you guys call boomer music.
>>70406704
what?
>literally getting triggered by free speech
Leave
>>70404042
You guys still do that?
Weird.
>>70406434
What does that have anything to do with my question, you retard?
>>70406443
Im all that because I didn't say a few meaningless words that no one understood in the first place?
>>70405892
This anon is absolutely right, the only thing the pledge did for me was to help me think critically (something that is not taught in schools) and that patriotism is utter nonsense.
>>70406754
No they don't fuck off Australia
>>70406691
You sure senpai?
>>70406873
Yes
>I refused to say the pledge because my pastor taught me the part of the bible where Christ forbids taking pledges
What the fuck now, bitch? Going to tell me what a faithless unpatriotic shit I am?
>>70404203
jokes on you, I have a cat
Heil Hitler
>>70406466
http://www.royal.gov.uk/MonarchUK/QueenandGovernment/Queenandvoting.aspx
Parliament was suppose to be a voice for the common people to the Crown, but these day's Parliament is completely out of touch with the general public which is why such practices are now redundant.
However the keys to the Queens popularity is her neutrality and ability to Transcend petty party squabbles. If she was to involve herself in such thing's the risk of turning people against the Monarchy is high, even now the future of the Monarchy is uncertain once she dies. She has made the right choice for the big picture, if the crown falls so does British national identity and the repercussions will be much worse than the current migration crisis. We're not Schengen so we are not in the same risk category as mainland Europe just yet.
>>70404042
>raised in hick town
>doing this would result in getting beat up
feels good
>>70406803
Shut your fucking mouth, Germany. How can a nation have that much collective guilt to make it a bad thing to have pride for your fucking country? You probably wouldn't have this dune coon problem if it were socially acceptable to take pride in Germany again. You deserve every inch of mudslime dick your rape victims receive.
>>70406908
Just a cuck desu
>>70406466
It's admirable, because if they did throw their oar in politics in this country would collapse, with Parliament and the Crown getting into hissy-fits over everything.
We'd basically get Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo, wasting time, effort, lives, money and reputation for little gain.
>>70406924
this
It's his right as an American, and that's a fucking beautiful thing. Brings a tear to my eye, to be desu.
>>70407033
It's also our right to call him a faggot commie, build wall Alejandro.
>>70406924
I was raised in a hick town too. I remember nosy assholes asking about my religious beliefs. I also remember putting a boot into the teeth of the guy who tried to start shit with me over it.
>>70404042
I'm a nationalist and that shit is dumb. It's like brainwashing that the state requires it in schools. If I wanted to pledge allegiance to my country I would do it on my own, but I won't because ZOG.
>>70406409
NEVER
>>70406826
if you couldn't participate in a simple display if national unity it says a lot
"If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein. If there are any circumstances which permit an exception, they do not now occur to us."
>>70404203
I pledge allegiance to the flag...
I DON'T KNOW THE REST
PUPPER NO
I only did it when i had homeroom with a teacher that took it seriously. It was worth it not to lose their good side.
I still think a daily pledge is pretty cultish and at the time i was fairly liberal and skeptical of intense patriotism because they held assemblies where military guys told us America is the best country in the world, which i couldnt prove or disprove.
The USA doesnt need to ask for my pledge of allegience because its already earned it.
>>70406822
Your question was not worth answering to me. I consider it mental masturbation. I see an awful lot of that here.
Woah that was actually me, I was just a stupid edgy kid with no respect
>>70404042
I think a kid who doesn't say the pledge grows up to be a man who learns why he should say it. It shows you can think for yourself.
>>70407200
Not only a (you) but my own thread, noice
>>70407223
t. Schlomo
>>70406766
>The pledge is the kind of emotional ungrounded crap that got us here in the first place
simple displays of national unity did not create the overwhelming mass immigration we have now. The globalists who hate national sovereignty created it. The lack of nationalism allowed this
>>70407200
My actual thought behind it at the time was something along the lines of I'll stand for it when the we deserve it this is a country of corruption and degeneratacy and Its killed me inside since I was like 12 I could see it
>>70406917
>Britiain being invaded
>petty squabble
>>70406962
A civil war would be good for Britian you fucking mega cucklord
On second thought, you guys might deserve to be genocided
>>70404042
>America
>Great
It's a nation of bandits, thiefs. Ever noticed how genuinely great nations don't demand loyalty from it's subjects? It should come naturally.
>>70407358
>nation of bandits and thieves
lmao we're coming for you next
>>70404203
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
дa
>>70406929
It isnt the pripe part that is weird.
Its that you pledge allegiance to the state that is weird.
>>70407260
To be fair, current social climate teaches everyone the are a special snowflake which breeds contempt for conformity. As a dumb kid it's hard to see why this is wrong and part of maturing is developing your political ideal's.
Hitler said that nobody should enter a political arena before the age of 30 because our ideas are too fluid before then but if a politician flip flops he looses all credibility. I think he is 100% right, how many people spend their younger years (normally in an education bubble) supporting Marxism only to completely reverse stance once they mature
>>70407358
>Ever noticed how genuinely great nations don't demand loyalty from it's subjects?
I never noticed that. Which nations were these?
>>70406755
What's been your favorite decade so far?
>>70407463
You already have.
>>70404203
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all
>>70407128
I know this is bait, but it's not that and no one I went to school with ever thought of it as that.
Just some dumb shit in 3rd period that everyone "had" to do because they were told to.
Most of the teachers didn't even like it because it interrupted their class.
>>70404827
This
>>70407536
It hasn't even begun
Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible.
>>70404042
The US hasn't been 'great' at any point in our lifetime though.
>>70404042
It means he wasn't a cuck. The only proper way to treat a collective is to be a freeloader.
>>70407479
As an older person I find it weird that people think like you do. It's like you've been propagandized to the opposite extreme.
>>70404203
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
>>70407358
>Ever noticed how genuinely great nations don't demand loyalty from it's subjects?
Show me a single one.
>>70404042
I was that kid. My parents where Jehova's Witnesses and they indoctrinated me not to love anything but their religion despite it ruining my childhood.
>>70407617
spanish version pls
>>70404203
...
I don't have any pets :^(
>>70407772
Haha weirdo
Let me guess, you celebrate Christmas now too.
>>70404042
>empty words
when the time comes, i'll prove my allegiance with action.
>>70407525
I turned 13 in 1980. My teen years were all in the 80's. So I think that's probably the answer. Your favorite decade will probably be the one you spent your teen years in. Unless you've had a horrible life. We had a lot of fun in the eighties.
>>70406929
>collective guilt
Fuck off you diabetic fat fuck. Europe would be 100 times better if they had won in Eurooe.
>>70407874
*unsheathes ar*
M'lady
>>70407863
Jeehova cucks don't celebrate Christmas retard.
>>70404203
Es la bandera de la patria mía
del sol nacida que me ha dado Dios.
>>70404042
I used to just mumble personally. Even if the teacher asked me to lead the class, I just had to say "I pledge allegiance...". Then I could mumble the next parts as the rest of the students joined in. I wouldn't even pretend to say the "under god" part though.
>>70408034
Your flag ain't worth shit, you lost the only thing you could be proud of.
>>70407911
That's a good possibility.
But they need to sack the fuck up, take some pride in their country and stop letting Germany get cucked.
>>70408016
No shit
>american 'nation' is such forced, made-up conceptt they have to resort to things like flag fetishism and constant pledge of allegiance to artifically enforce even slight illusion of patriotism
If you were a real country with real history patriotism would come on its own
not to mention
>devaluing the pledge of allegiance by having tyrone, José and others recite it every single day without meaning a word of it
>>70404203
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all
>>70404238
>waah my parents spanked me so god isn't real
fucking athiests
>>70404203
I pledge my Allegiance to the God Emperor, may his meme magic protects us and save us!
Praise Kek!
>>70404441
Ah yes a good old box o' drugs.
>>70404042
I never got why people get upset over these. Here we have a 1 minute prayer every school day before we get into class, albeit it's not mandatory to take part. Despite that everyone does it anyway (even the 1 Turk kid).
I'm not sure that nation "indivisible with liberty and justice for all" exists anymore, or ever really has existed. Maybe briefly, for a couple years.
>>70408246
because /pol/ is has no morals they're contrarian by nature. Seeing people acting together is triggering.
>>70404827
Nationalism =/= Patriotism
All patriotism is nationalism, but not all nationalism is patriotism.
Welcome to /pol/ new guy.
>>70404827
>/pol/ is one person
>>70408735
>All patriotism is nationalism
kekkin
Patriotism is pride of country, nationalism is pride of nation.
Simple as that.
>>70404203
>mfw not american
>mfw don't have a dawg
breddy ebin
>>70408088
All I needed to do was stand up, I didn't see much point in doing the rest. There were people at my shool who would vigorously enforce the pledge and send you to detention if they saw you sitting down or wearing a hat but while standing you just blend in with everyone else. I got some riles out of a few schoolgirls but other than that no one ever noticed. It's a horrible tradition that only mouth breathers in bumfuck nowhere still think is sacred and I'm glad it pisses them off when I don't do it.
>>70404203
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all
>>70408735
>All patriotism is nationalism
expect that's wrong idiot
patriotism is the love of your ethos
nationalism the the of your culture and national identity
the two are often heavily intertwined especially in The US.
>>70405386
There were a few classes where the teachers lacked a disciplinarian hold on the room such that almost nobody stood for the pledge, simply out of laziness. Some days nobody at all would even listen as they recited it over the PA.
It was at this time that I made a point to start doing it every day (partly bc I was an edgy contrarian), because to me there was a big difference between respectfully declining to recite it and ignoring it out of pure laziness, talking to our shit friends throughout the whole thing.
I wasn't trying to make any statement with this I just thought one person in the room might set a different example. A few others joined me eventually.
>>70404203
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
>>70404203
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. And to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for Traytray.
>>70404345
I think that's how it was for a lot of us anon. We were all contrarian edgelords especially during the Bush years.
>>70404445
>>70404445
Well technically you are only pledging allegiance to the constitutional republic and what it stands for.
>>70404203
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all
>>70404042
11th and 12th grade i legit slept through homeroom and 1st period, i had the same teacher and she didnt give a fuck. 4 years later i was ripping a bong with her at a party trying to bang her. i didnt though
>>70404949
Honestly Britfag I get it. After all as Americans our national identity is largely based on individual liberty and telling your aristocracy to get fucked. Every nation if it wants to remain united needs to have values and institutions that hold the people together.
Oh and btw fuck the queen.
>>70404042
>go to hockey game with my pap-pap
>they sing both US and Canada's anthems
>tfw saluting both flags
