I'm quite a newfag and I thought stormfront was good and nationalistic but for some reason a lot of you don't like them. Why?
Please. Don't poo in the loo shitposts, serious question.
>>70402220
Poo
>>70402220
FBI honey pot, just like 4chan.
>>70402256
IN
>>70402220
Because they believe in the kikes run the world meme unironically.
>>70402220
with that flag anything you post is a shitpost
>>70402356
Loo
>>70402220
You mad bro?
>>70402220
fuck off you paki bastard.
I think they had an interesting post or two here and there on historical topics when they used okay sources. But my favorite part was trolling them in the guests sections by pointing out inconsistencies in their posts opposed to what they said their posts really were about. Pulled up like 15 quotes from popular members to show them they were full of shit. Thread was deleted.
In reality I could not care much less about them since I don't visit the site.
Side note the post 2008 presidential lection comments and threads were hilarious.
>>70402490
I'm not Paki. We hate Pakis you britbong dumbass
>>70402220
Because in our country almost every Nazi is a Jew in a Stupid Inbred Goy costume.
They have a holiday called Purim which retells a story, modernized in Caddyshack, in which an enemy of the tribe is caricatured and suffers a series of comical setbacks, kind of like Wile E Coyote. As with Caddyshack the Jews despaircoded this idea of bringing about an enemy's defeat by dressing up as him and playacting the defeat. A lot of Hollywood is this, as is a lot of "neo-Nazi" activity.
>>70402220
Lack of teh lulz
Plus you can't even say nigger there without getting banned
>>70402220
Sometimes they have interesting subjects, but some are too extreme and stupid.
>>70402220
Uninformed idiots tend to spout the most boisterous opinions. Stormfront is basically a stricter, more heavily moderated version of /pol/ with far more intelligent, white nationalist focused discussion.
Somehow it's become synonymous with neo-Nazism, though, even though you'll get banned for using racial insults and posting swastika images there.
>>70402775
this desu senpai
the main thing wrong with them is they are too purist and obsessive, like if you say you find a mixed race girl attractive they will sperg out and call you a race traitor.
>>70402380
>>>>>/r/thedonald
>>70403690
But you would be
I've found plenty of great resources there, and while too many of the posters seem to hate because they like hating, there are plenty of diamonds in the rough. That place and /pol/ are basically the only two advocates of the white race that I have found. They get a shit reputation, but then again when you're a white nationalist, anything you say or do is bound to be met with over emotional scrutiny.
>>70405540
>white nationalist
>implying there's a monolithic "white" nation
Have you ever been abroad, the cultural diversity between white nations is astounding. And that just because they're white they must have this ingrained need to unity.
>>70402220
You see the "Nobody is white" meme in /pol/ and all thoses dumb jokes? Well, in Stormfront actually believe that shit.
>>70402220
EL PAKIANO
>>70402220
Stormfront is full of idiots. They want to be neanderthal cunts wearing animal skins and worshipping water nymphs and shit.
>>70402220
They don't do anything.
>>70402380
fuck off melbourne.
>>70406492
>"Nobody is white" meme
the what meme?
when people talk "white" what they mean is basically not black, brown or asian.
>>70402220
it's filled with white trash who are 1 step above niggers
>>70407389
"white trash" are many steps above nignogs.
>>70407197
i think he means the memes like
>slavs
>white
or
>anglos
>white
>spain
>white
you get the idea
>>70406492
fucking wrong. i can tell you've never been there, Jamal. all Europeans, southern included, are considered white on stormfront
its basically a white nationalist site where people bitch about the current racial situation and make fun of non-whites a bit. everyone there is kind of autistic, though.
its much milder in language and content than here, they even censor the word nigger on stormfront.
>>70403690
Because they actually have principles and believe in what they stand for unlike you leaf in the wind faggots on /pol/
>>70402220
Basically they are a bunch of insecure faggots looking for an external enemy to blame their lack of success on.
>>70402220
It's "bad" because the majority of /pol/acks are shitskins and SJW furfag weaboos now.
>>70359058
>>70407118
Fuck off Kweenswaand and Lakemba
>>70407632
>>70406111
That's true enough though I would still argue that you have much better odds of assimilating diverse people into 1 culture if they all look the same. It's worked fairly well here in America after all.
nothing
shills attack them in order to d and c
>>70408372
Which is why they are far less effective. Like that Jew Alinsky said. Movements propagate fast when everyone's having fun.
>>70406111
>not understanding the concept of white nationalist
It gets quite complex, and to fully understand the term you have to study the Left post wwII as well as the Right, but the simplest way to explain the label is this:
> only white nations are subject to multiculturalism
> white nations face a demographic replacement as a result
> nations founded by "white" Europeans will have European ethnic and racial minorities in a few decades
Does that help sort out the concept of white nationalism?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOyBO-ts20c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC-Cqkq6zWc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0hD7IffTJs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y--z7SEtypY&nohtml5=False
>>70408780
but in order for all of this to work, don't you have to also belive they're doing it because you're white?
Do you think this is happening because white people live in Europe/NA?
>>70402220
They take white nationalism seriously.
>>70402220
Stormfront is the reddit of the politically incorrect. There is no politics to be found there, just complaining.
>>70409042
I'm going to take the liberty of rephrasing your question, because you're either asking prematurely so it seems non-applicable, or you just weren't being very clear.
>for white nationalism to be a viable movement, it has to be based on white identity
Sure, and white identity is not a uniform, homogeneous identity. No identity ever is, but yet, identities work. People identify as white, they see their ancestors as having been the ones who founded the society and the infrastructure of the nation. For some reason, white people in multicultural societies get confused by this, but have no problem thinking of Japan as being defined by Japanese ethnicity and race, China as being defined by Chinese ethnicity and racial identity, etc. There's a strange kind of cognitive dissonance whites experience where multiculturalism is pushed as a state ideology.
> do you think demographic replacement is happening because people live in Europe
Yes, it certainly isn't happening organically, or by accident, and requires the mobilization of the state to supress any disruptions, tensions, or resistance from the populations there. There's quite a bit of literature and history behind the multicultural desire to socially engineer western cultures through mass migration.
4chan is the boogeyman of the internet.
/pol/ is the boogeyman of 4chan
Stormfront is the boogeyman of /pol/
It doesn't go any deeper.
>>70409416
>It doesn't go any deeper.
You're forgeting the darknet.
There are many bogeymen in that leviathan.
>>70402220
A bit too much pseudoscience in their arguments and worldview. They aren't race realists they are white supremacists. For whites to be the best race, we have a ways to go to reach Asians and European Jews in the IQ department. That will take significant eugenics. Whites have many good qualities compared to other races though.
i used to be a regular there. a lot of them are the stereotypical neo-nazis, klansmen, and ex-cons. the conversation is also repetitive. you know how a thread is going to play out without even reading it. there were a lot of what i called 'validation posts.' a lot of 'is x okay to listen to/watch/read?' there wasn't much real discussion about ideology or political philosophy. the most popular section was the sf equivalent of /b/; i think it was called the lounge. the topics most likely to cause controversy and disagreement were in their own little ghettoes (religion and dissenting views), so it was mostly a circlejerk.
there were a few interesting people. i remember a guy name transilvanian, i think, who seemed to actually know his history and had more level headed posts. then there was this transhumanist luciferian that was interesting to talk to. but most of the users fit a type. pretty dull overall. they also thought printing flyers was the height of activism lol.
>>70409620
>They aren't race realists they are white supremacists
You're conflating a pejorative with the "exceptionalism" that all identiarian or nationalistic movements display. "white supremacism" is a pejorative term leftists use; few white nationalists think it's a matter of supremacy. Even Afrocentrists and Loxists are objectively more supremacist than white nationalists; they actually make claims of supremacy in the mainstream of their ideological corps. Unironic "White supremacists" exist here because kids who don't read or have any formal exposure to ideology, take the memes here seriously. There's very little "supremacism" even in National Socialism, the great bogeyman of all bogeymen.
>>70406895
Whats wrong with water nymphs?
>neo-nazis
American exceptionalism > muh white pride
>>70409333
Thank you for the rephrasing - it was not terribly clear initally. When you say socially engineer western cultures through mass migration, what specifcally are you referring to? I ask because it seems to imply that there is a larger scheme at play with the purpose of making homogeneous Western European countries less so rather than a side effect of outside factors
>>70402380
>Thinks it's all satire
>>70410111
Do you think the anglo-saxon culture/ethnicity that founded the nation is irrelevant to the retention of the American character? Maybe if you think societies aren't biological constructs, that they're universally interchangeable, then you can argue America would remain America regardless of whether we were all replaced by Chinese or Sub-Saharans.
>>70410203
>When you say socially engineer western cultures through mass migration, what specifcally are you referring to?
You should really take the time to watch some of those videos I linked previously. Here are a few more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AabxIT1GGYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMfk5UeGw4E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y--z7SEtypY
>>70410203
If you decide to move beyond the summaries in those videos, check out the /pol/ books archive:
> https://mega.nz/#F!B4dB2SzQ!h_pMC30v2a_y31iD0dy0sg
>inevitable brown future
>right side of history
>historical inevitability (Marx)
>Whig history
I want more white people and less Muslims in Europe because whites are usually more calm, less agressive, less criminal and better to be around. Not because I want to preserve some blond blue eyed faggots or "pure races". So I don't like Stormfront, they are too serious about this racial stuff.
>>70411633
Then you aren't a nationalist.
>>70411882
Actually you white nationalists are nothing more than imposters.
Some of them love Hitler and pseudo-scientific bullshit too much.
Also, it's American and Americans aren't white.
>>70411633
>>70411882
If you know that you're subject to policies of blending your race out of existence, including its appearance AND behavioral and intellectual characteristics, doesn't it make sense to not engage in the miscegenation practices being pushed on us? Not that I care personally about aesthetics so much, but I will admit there's something haunting about the thought that traits that took thousands of years to evolve in our ancestors would be intentionally destroyed and lost. It's like cutting down a thousand year old forest. Besides, you don't easily get the behavioral and intellectual traits apart from all the other physical traits.
>>70412014
? Explain?
Stormfront is just a starter kit.
This is the master class.
>>70412148
There's always the first person to do a thing, and the person who did that thing the best. Stormfront was the first; we're the best.
>>70408296
>i can tell you've never been there, Jamal. all Europeans, southern included, are considered white on stormfront
I browsed Stormfront a good couple of times and very little supports your say-so.
Stormfront on multiple occasions tried to sketch anew the geographical border between whites and non-whites, with every group having their own idea as to who could be included.
It was only until multiple shitstorms ruptured the site when they adopted the 'no attacks on other whites will be tolerated on this site' rule.
For a time, Polish sub-thread had every new non-english post deleted on the basis that only national stickies are allowed to host discussions in their own languages. The request for such a sticky has been filed multiple times by Polish stormfags, only to have been repeatedly denied, even on the eve of having their posts deleted. Also, there have been multiple calls to have Poles stripped of their "white" status because 'm-muh stolen Germanic clay, we must ally with Russia to have Poles expelled into the Asia where they belong!'.
For a pro-white nationalist community they are more fractured than /pol/ itself.
>>70402380
the only joke around here is Australia itself
>>70413032
> /pol/ thinks
> stormfront thinks
> i saw an example, it was representative of a webstie with hundreds of thousands of posts over nearly a decade
Why does this meme persist?
Is it impossible for some people to resist dramatic over-generalization?
>>70403690
>>70407118
>>70410239
>>70413096
Is this your first time browsing 4chan lads? We started this meme around 15 years ago to make all the newfags mentally unstable.
>>70413520
>i saw an example, it was representative of a webstie with hundreds of thousands of posts over nearly a decade
Can't you read? There was a lengthy period where Poles were openly regarded as "persona non grata" by Stormfront's staff and elite users. This wasn't a case of opinionated BS at one time or another, but a whole phenomenon.
At that time stormfags behaved like /his/ does in regards to /pol/ - they feared that Poles would enter their discussions - and this made them at times so angry that they ruined their own thread with no Pole present.
No mention of VNN Forum? The Right Stuff? The Daily Stormer?
>>70402755
Paki == anyone who's brown
>>70413838
Those are more alt-right and part of what I call the "new guard".
Does anyone actually listen to the daily call in Stormfront radio show w/ Don Black + truckroy or the David Duke program on the Rense radio network?
Bonus: anyone going to the sixth annual Stormfront Great Smokey Mountain Summit the first weekend of October? It's your best chance to meet up with some of the liluminaries in the fight against whiten genocide.
>>70402220
It is the white version of "WE WUZ KANGZ N SHIEET". How can you like idiots like that?
>>70414132
I would have said that you are baiting, but then I remember how some of Stormfags believed that not only Atlantis really existed, but it also was an Aryan paradise.
>>70414132
But in the case of white people it's actually true.
>>70402220
Well, the political problem is not enough people agree with them to have meaningful impact. They're unorganized and underground. So, believe it or not, not very interesting in terms of power.
Because we have anti racism laws in the USA they're watched ... But that's gotta be the most boring federal job in the world.
Politically theyll never gain traction because they won't take a compromised view to gain popularity.
In a democracy being pure or simply ideologically is death. You need votes, and being so singular in your focus is not going to ever ever ever get them.
>>70414381
>LOL at stupid niggers claiming to be melanoid GAWDS of Egypt!
>Oh, by the way, we were Anunnaki and shit!
>>70414661
I imagine they give watching stormfront to interns at the Bureau.,.
>>70414834
Try the SPLC
>>70402220
What actually is Stormfront? My cursory knowledge is that it's "white power" ala nazi white nationalism
White supremacy hugbox in a dumb way. /pol/ is reddit meme tier
>>70414132
>It is the white version of "WE WUZ KANGZ N SHIEET".
True, there are some people who think the Ancient Egyptians were Nordics. I mean, they have found some red haired mummies. I don't know if that's natural or if it's a side effect of the mummification process.
>>70414016
>Those are more alt-right and part of what I call the "new guard".
VNN is the new guard? So Stormfront is the old guard? Stormfront was my gateway to WN. Before that, I was just conservative. I eventually grew out of it and moved on to VNN forum. They seemed more educated, intelligent, extreme, and there was more free speech. And now, the alt (non-cuck) right has been injected with chan culture and dank memes. Not only is it ok to express far right views without censorship, but our piece of the political spectrum has become cool/relevant/funny again.
>>70414834
Who is watching /pol/ then?
>>70414942
The first white nationalist website founded in 1995. It was on BBS prior to the www.
>>70415052
>alt-right
>non cucked
You have degenerate weebs and a half Jewish/Greek fag who likes to get fucked by niggers. The tent is too wide and it will succumb to what the tea and libertarian parties fate of infiltration.
Stormfront is quite literally the Neonazi/Hooligan dumping ground, they may be good for muscle during the Happening, but they're dead weight if you try to game the system and change things democratically.
I'm fairly certain they unironically read the Manlet "Yellow Fever" Anglin's Daily Stormer, too.
>>70415037
>White supremacy hugbox in a dumb way. /pol/ is reddit meme tier
Also this. Stormfront is ineffective, and full of negative nancies and complainers. Don't get me wrong, some people need a place to complain. Some people need a milder form of WN to start off with. Stormfront does both of those things. Not that I personally find it useful much anymore, but I'm not against it overall because it is still a WN forum and for some people, it's milk before meat. Btw, VNN constantly trashes Stormfront, but to me that is largely unnecessary infighting.
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>>70402755
same curry, different asshole
>>70402220
i dont think whites are superior but they can not help it that other races are shit tier
>>70406111
Yeah, that concept doesn't really make sense outside of the US, which is why our right wing has differed so much.
Too I would say taht the more recent concept of pan-european solidarity found in the new right is somewhat analogous.
>>70415205
>The first white nationalist website founded in 1995. It was on BBS prior to the www.
sounds pretty stupid. I support equal fucking over of everyone, not white fucking over of everyone
>>70414661
This, same reason why environmental focused parties can never gain power.
>>70415205
>You have degenerate weebs You have degenerate weebs
At least we're not afraid of being called racists, sexists, [x]-phobes, intolerant, or bigots. At least we don't pander to political correctness or give in to SJW bullying.
>and a half Jewish/Greek fag who likes to get fucked by niggers.
Is Milo really half-Jewish? And does he really have sex with black men? I'm not a fan of his homosexuality, but he's anti-SJW and political correctness. He defends us. He may be a fag, but we need all the help we can get at this point. It just goes to show you just how batshit insane the left has become when even a gay pundit is defending alt-right wingers.
>>70415493
>Yeah, that concept doesn't really make sense outside of the US
This is because the USA had multiple European ethnicities that mixed with each other in "the melting pot" into one racial identity. Europe has nation-states where each country has it's own ethnicity and language.
>which is why our right wing has differed so much.
But how different is it, really? The common goal here is to preserve the future of indigenous European peoples and their diaspora around the world against multiculturalism, mass immigration from third world countries, and miscegenation. Stormfront and VNN have forums dedicated to other countries like Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Britain, UK, Germany, South Africa, etc. Even on /pol/ we defend European countries, and we criticize and make fun of over-tolerance of alien cultures, for example the Sweden YES meme.
>Too I would say that the more recent concept of pan-European solidarity found in the new right is somewhat analogous.
Exactly. Pan-European, meaning advocating all European peoples all over the world, including people of European descent who live outside of Europe. I don't see much of a difference. It's basically the same thing.
>>70402380
Nice bait.
>>70402220
I believe that all National Socialists should be lined up and shot. No joke.
This is a self evident truth that needs no justification. See: All of Human History
>>70416183
Well, for us, retaining the nations our fathers have bled and died for in order to create, over the centuries is a major part of it, that means it is also problematic to have migration flow across national lines for us. The kingdom of Norway was incorporated in the 9th century, and it should be kept Norwegian.
>>70410945
Peter Sutherland is Roman Catholic. It isn't important for me, in my opinion, christians, muslims and jews are the same shit, but we need to be more accurate with this kind of things.
They rely on statistics and use the same modus operandi as the sjw, trying to justify collective guilt based on natural predispositions that mean fuck all applied to individuals.
IF they were serious they'd put up a ballpark number of acceptable immigration and argue based on facts not on race or sex. Because that is the same thing the sjws and feminists do.
>>70416644
>retaining the nations our fathers have bled and died for in order to create
The same could be said for the USA. See: American Revolution, US Civil War
>that means it is also problematic to have migration flow across national lines for us.
>it should be kept Norwegian.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. It's a shame that simply believing this makes you evil in the eyes of Western society today. Or that in some countries, you can be imprisoned for questioning the mainstream account of the holocaust, displaying certain flags, or even saying that multiculturalism and immigration might not work or be beneficial.
>>70417127
When have you seen SJWs using statistics?
Individualism is just a meme, it doesn't exist. You're the result of your biology.
>>70402380
B-but we do that as well, right ? R-RIGHT ?
>>70402220
They are too soft and tolerant. Just like the Klan.
t. Ben
>>70413896
This, tbqfh, pil
>>70402220
Because very few of us actually give a fuck about white supremacy. Most of us are just here for ebin memes.
You can tell when someone is stormfront when you make any kind of rational statement amount racial relations or talk about other human being as if they are human and not animals. The truth is that any racial supremacist is just a complete egotistical freak with delusions of grandeur. No one wants a conversation with them.
Pajeet, I don't want you in my country because you still our jabs, and you smell, but it's not because of the color of your skin, and honestly, I kind of admire your poo filled culture and streets.
>>70402220
Very few people here are actually white supremacists, most are just being edgelords because you can't say "gas the kikes" anywhere else on the internet without getting banned.
>>70417387
The fact that you can take a chinaman baby, give it to irish parents and with 99% certainty say that he'll grow up to act, think and behave irish gives biology a very minor role.
Sure, you'll notice his slanted eyes because humans see others first. Just because you think this chink is a little autistic nerd don't mean he won't break a pint on your skull see what I mean?
Race has very little to do with your character, IF you don't let racist people bully you into changing to fit in you sheep
>>70418574
Pretty sure he would research and look into what he 'really' is, find out some half-dead cultural tradition from Asian country to practice.
>>70417387
And yeah, 1 in 4 women are gun get raped
Black live mattur spout how they get killed by the police 3000% more than whites etc.
Now most statistics are bullshit whipped up by freshmen and slung unto the internet.
This causes the stats that are factual and accurate to be dissmissed entirely which is the ultimate tragedy.
If blacks understood that the ghettos are a cycle of poverty because they harbour the most decrepid 5% of society that passes on shit values and ideas to their uneducated brats for 300 years and not because niggas be lazy, they could look past race and work with everybody to fix it. But nah, police be pigs and hate us niggas, we don't needs ta change mang, we wus kings.
>>70413896
>Paki == anyone who's brown
True. Also anything non white is classed as shitskin.
>>70402220
they are too christian, therefore too much cucks
>>70418805
So if you found out that your ancestors are greek you'd change your behaviour, beliefs and values even if it'd be the complete opposite of what you think now?
Don't think so. Culture is imprinted on you from childhood, like language. You CAN try to force yourself to be someone else, doesn't mean its right or that somehow aligning race and culture is the "right" thing to do.
>>70402304
>don't visit here, goy
>leave it to the FBI/CIA/NSA shitposters
>>70413648
>>70413648
>>70402220
Because they act like retard in public.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGSL6MkZpvQ Your average super naziboo.
>>70418574
Black children raised in White households have similar IQs to black children in black households.
http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1977-07996-001
>>70402220
Because nordicist are the "WE WUZ" of Europe. They don't respect the rest of europeans so fuck them.
>>70419662
Go be unemployed elsewhere
>>70418375
People here aren't "supremacist", they are however nationalist and genuinely so.
>hurrr were just here for epic banter! We're actually liberal XD
Kill yourself Reddit
>>70402220
I have 2000+ posts there for over 3 years.
The issue is people there have no idea how the real world works. They make posts about "Zionist supremacism" and "destroying teh JEWS" yet ignore the fact that Israel has nukes and Jews belong over there and not here. Also so many of them get worked up over conservitard talking points it's ridiculous (like abortion is a liberal plot that is killing black babies. Good job pinkos in my book!)
>>70402896
It's autofiltered to ******
>>70419642
IQs are genetic yes.
But chimping out is cultural, learned by monkey see monkey do. That's why we have white trash.
Even a retard can be good at heart/not be a nigger if he is raised away from the ghetto.
>>70406111
White Nationalism was the explicit basis of American, South African and Australian governments for a long time. Of course it occurs in a colonial context but the realization that it is better for the nations of Europe and the West to use our means of production and power to subjugate and replace darkies instead of killing one another doesn't mean we want a White-astan.
>>70409416
>VNN is the bogeyman of Stormfront.
>>70416871
This. You see this same fast and lose sloppiness at Stormfront too.
>>70402755
upvoted
>>70416552
National socialism was only around for a short period of time and did great things for its country and was waged war upon by both the entire communist world and capitalist world.
>>70402220
they make us look bad
that's it
>>70421590
The rest of them are jews.
>>70415081
Same
>>70402380
because they do faqggot un i fucking ronicaly
>>70420600
Sorry ancient roman/greek, pls, don't be angry at me :^(
>>70402220
At this point I'd settle for a genuine nationalist movement. To wish for a WN transformation when there territory is losing its basic national identity is a bridge to far.
Let's get a nationalist movement first.... Then we can see what's next. Just that would be great.
