Reddit and /g/ are circle jerking over the Space X landing a rocket in the ocean and how this is a big step for the future
Does any of that shit really matter considering the economic and political instability were experiencing now?
>>70394171
No. Space travel is a meme. The way it's proceeding, 99% of the population will be Earthbound still, paying fealty to our star-kike overlords in their private space stations.
It could potentially greatly lower the costs of orbital spaceflight, laying the groundwork for more innovation in the future. That being said, as with every Elon Musk project, it's hard to tell what's bullshit and what's PR hype trying to get more government subsidies. Also, I'm not sure how deep the space market is going to be anytime soon. I know that currently the rocket launching companies have a decent amount of work coming in and the space industry is expanding; I just don't know what the big picture is for the space economy.
The more exciting part of it all is that if Space X can somehow dominate the entire global market for this then they will have the funds necessary to do a private Mars mission which would absolutely be wonderful.
Wow they got 1/10 to land.
>>70394711
>I just don't know what the big picture is for the space economy.
Asteroid mining really seems like it will be the next large push for space. The amount of resources available and with nobody having any claims on it. So a lot of rich people will take it seriously and it has the potential to revolutionize spacetech.
>>70394365
We Elysium now?
>>70394171
Because land is so rare that we have to do all our launches from the ocean, of course.
>>70394711
>The more exciting part of it all is that if Space X can somehow dominate the entire global market for this then they will have the funds necessary to do a private Mars mission which would absolutely be wonderful
That shit either won't happen for at least another 100 years or after WW3 started
>>70394711
Orbital "space"flight is all that's possible due to the lethal radiation belts
>>70394909
>being a freelancer space engineer and show everybody that ancap econimics was the way yo progress all along
>economic and political instability were experiencing now
Hello Chicken Little
The world is as stable as it will ever be
>>70394171
Screencap this for 3016, we will never reach another star.
>>70394171
It's big, but the real test it successfully re-using the thing. The cost of fixing damage from launch and re-entry may actually overshadow the savings from the rocket. As with most large-scale recycling issues, economy of scale is gonna be a big factor.
Space exploration is the ultimate destiny of the human species, though, so this is great stuff.
>>70394171
Why so salty? It is nice achievement lets celebrate instead.
Fake and gay like all black budget space ops
>>70395540
>>70395405
They land it on a ship because bringing it all the way back to the launch site requires more fuel. It can be done (and has) but it reduces the maximum payload.
It's also safer to do it on a ship, because there's nothing around to be damaged in the event of a failure.
>>70394171
Elon musk is the welfare king. His companies are propped up by government subsidies but are still hemorrhaging money. Somehow he managed to become a billionaire
>>70395559
>Refugee invasion of Europe
>Disintegration of both Democratic and Republican party
>Probing of thousands of high ranking bureaucrats
>EU collapsing soon
>North Korea and China war tensions higher than ever
>>70394171
This thing alone costs a hundred times more than a moon mission sixty years ago. I wonder why they never went there again.
>>70394711
satellite companies are already lining up to buy the used rocekts
oh wait are you that fag that doesnt understand why satellites are important?
>>70394171
The twilight of the west while technology marches on is the great contradiction of our time. We're probably headed into a nightmare where a techno wealthy group rule over 3rd world populations.
LISTEN CLOSELY YOU FUCKS
studies have shown that the market for space launches is very plastic. It will increase at a certain rate for certain decreases in launch costs. I forget what the exact function is.
Anyways, lets say spacex starts launching three times a month at 70% of the current cost - the market would keep up, and even overtake the launching abilities
All concerns are secondary to leaving the planet. Not to the plebs, but Imo there is a white elite consciousness and all the good ones are into this. Plebs are extraneous material. The world isn't getting any better because the true white elite has abandoned us because we don't matter nor do we deserve a cushy life because that is atrophy, the white elite has made the right choice.
THIS IS WHAT IT'S LIKE WHEN A SPECIES LEAVES FOR THE STARS.
>>70395405
>>70395794
To add, there is an advantage to actually launching from the ocean. The closer you are to the equator, the less change in velocity you need in order to get into orbit.
>>70395893
the world has been worse many times over
also
>>Disintegration of both Democratic and Republican party
not happening, both parties have survived greater threats (teddy roosevelt leaving the republican party and running his own Progressive Party, the dixiecrat rebellion of Storm Thurmond, etc.)
>EU collapsing soon
not happening no matter how much you want it to
>>70394171
van allan belts, does ellon musk ever talk about those????
also, a clock is right 2 times a day, doesn't make it a good watch.
>>70394909
I just don't understand what we are going to build with all that shit. And I wonder if the asteroids are in fact as full of valuable materials as asteroid mining advocates assume. It may also be quite some time before the entire groundwork is laid for something like that to be profitable. You have to build lots of stuff that currently doesn't exist; test it all out; and even then will it even turn a profit?
>>70395461
It's really not that complicated for someone willing to take a chance. The main problems are radiation and getting off Mars. India put a satellite into Mars orbit for Christ's sake. Give Elon Musk NASA's budget for 5 years and we'll be at Mars in 5 years. It's not complicated.
>>70395494
>The Apollo missions marked the first event where humans traveled through the Van Allen belts
>The total radiation received by the astronauts varied from mission to mission but was measured to be between 0.16 and 1.14 rads (1.6 and 11.4 mGy)
its mostly beta radiation so i'll assume Gy = Sv
Getting an abdomen CT scan is 10 mSv alone
anything below 100 mSv is low enough that its hard to even prove, statisticly, it increases your chance of getting cancer
I love this movie to death.
>you will never be a space cop
hold me /pol/.
It's coming soon. I can feel it
>>70396196
If Britain does leave the EU in the following months then expect it to happen
The Refugee crises has already created a catalyst for the impending doom of EU
>>70395859
Tesla paid off its government loans early.
SpaceX is just another NASA contractor. That gets to also launch commercial stuff with out having to involve NASA.
>>70395939
did you adjust for inflation?
>>70395939
For what reason would they go there again?
>>70395605
Include my too, so that future shit posters read my transcribed thoughts within their minds
>>70394171
It's just pop sci faggots that give tons of upvotes to anything science related.
>>70396202
You can just go around them like Apollo did. Space is 3D you know.
Note that the trajectory never passes into the most intense areas of the belts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYejuINUfYk
>>70395939
The Apollo program cost $109 billion in 2010 dollars.
>In January 2015, SpaceX raised $1 billion in funding from Google and Fidelity, in exchange for 8.333% of the company, establishing the company valuation at approximately $12 billion.
>>70396384
>spacex pays off its government loans
>with more government loans
>>70394874
Yea I guess 0/0 is a better percentage.
>>70396569
So they can use old equipment and technology then
>>70396466
don't you want hotels to be built on the moon?
>>70396384
15$ an hour anytime now
>>70396580
The US needs space launch capacity. NASA has to contract out to someone to build the things.
So they either give money to SpaceX, which innovates; or to existing military industrial complex companies, like ULA. ULA launches cost more and use surplus soviet rockets
>>70395859
I said in the thread earlier It would take less than a day before the edgy /pol/ elon haters come back out of the woodworks
ULA receives 1 billion dollars a year for no reason, from the federal government, for the privilege of running a monopoly charging 400 million dollars a launch, and SpaceX, which was started with private money, developed a rocket (100% privately) and started charging 60 million per launch is somehow the bad guy
Tesla was loaned 700 million by the feds, they payed it all back ahead of schedule, let me repeat for you retards
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY MADE A PROFIT INVESTING IN TESLA
>>70396805
Once SpaceX starts reusing rockets. The launch cost will be 40 million.
>>70396805
Tesla relies on the electric car tax break which is like having a sale at taxpayer expense. They would have never come close to profitability without it.
>>70395859
Considering all the tax money this little rocket saved you (and will save in the future), it's pretty retarded to complain about it.
>>70397117
Also, they are looking to sell.
>>70397117
ya I was specific to say Federal gov because states do all kinds of stuff like that
the electric car tax break is a California thing right?
I'm honestly kind of against electric car incentives desu because the market should decide if electric cars are a worthwhile product or not given the correct price signals
but the incentives are not just for Tesla, GM (which received hundreds of billions is taxbux during the "bailout") will also get that for the bolt so its sector favoritism not just for one company
>>70396941
bullshit
>>70397569
Yep, he's bullshitting you.
The actual cost will be around 10 million
>>70397162
good point mario, 1 falcon air force launch saves the US taxpayer 200-300 million
how many falcon launches would it take to breakeven with all of Teslas incentives and tax breaks combined?
>>70394171
Nah just elon musk finding new ways to blow his subsidies and tax breaks
>>70396357
>said the potato famine
>said the moor invasion
>said the great flood
>said the american civil war
>said wwi
Everything's fine.
Shut up.
>>70394171
>Canada proxy
>unironically referring to plebbit
>>70397117
People who buy the Model S/X don't care about the tax credits.
It'll matter for the 3 buyers, but there is a cap at 200,000 per manufacturer. Which means less than 200,000 of the 500,000 Model 3 reservation holders, will get the Federal credit.
>>70396115
Give THAT MAN A COOKIE.jpg
>>70396115
Sea Launch was expensive and dependent on surplus rockets from ex Soviet states. The Clankening, Crimea Boogaloo, and Ukraine Proxy War basically ruined them.
