Is there a correlation between homosexuality and the fall of human civilizations?
>>70367688
Ya, the greeks
yeah it becomes socially acceptable to not have kids while being sexually reckless
given the choice, a lot of people don't want to deal with kids and a lot of people just want to fuck for fun
goodbye civilization
jews, there is your correlation
>>70367688
There's a correlation between sodomy and the fall of civilization
There are historical examples to support that too
>>70367688
Yes there is.
Sage.
>>70367688
Is there a correlation between the sky and the colour blue?
>>70367688
>MFW every great empire in history was gay as fuck.
Face it /pol/weenies you are just as bad as tumblecunts when you try and censor history to fit your world view.
Looking for a good chuckle in this thread reading cherry picked "sources".
Na. Gay people are a constant part of human life. They've been around through the rise of every empire, as well as it's fall. Basically on a global historical scale there's no direct correlation between homosexuals and anything, for that matter.
>>70367688
Yes the scientific term is the "behavioral sink"
"The ethologist John B. Calhoun coined the term "behavioral sink" to describe the collapse in behavior which resulted from overcrowding."
"Many [female rats] were unable to carry pregnancy to full term or to survive delivery of their litters if they did. An even greater number, after successfully giving birth, fell short in their maternal functions. Among the males the behavior disturbances ranged from sexual deviation to cannibalism and from frenetic overactivity to a pathological withdrawal from which individuals would emerge to eat, drink and move about only when other members of the community were asleep. The social organization of the animals showed equal disruption. [...]
The common source of these disturbances became most dramatically apparent in the populations of our first series of three experiments, in which we observed the development of what we called a behavioral sink. The animals would crowd together in greatest number in one of the four interconnecting pens in which the colony was maintained. As many as 60 of the 80 rats in each experimental population would assemble in one pen during periods of feeding. Individual rats would rarely eat except in the company of other rats. As a result extreme population densities developed in the pen adopted for eating, leaving the others with sparse populations.
[...] In the experiments in which the behavioral sink developed, infant mortality ran as high as 96 percent among the most disoriented groups in the population."
straight from wikipedia
>>70369696
>Overpopulation leads to increases the chances of deviant behavior, sexual or otherwise.
Wow, that has nothing to do with homosexuality as the source of humanity's destruction.
>>70370087
he asked for correlation not causation it's a symptom and not the disease but that doesn't mean the symptom isn't accelerating us toward what is essentially the terminal point of the disease.
The source of destruction of highly social or populated society will always be lack of sufficient birthrates, homosexuality contribute to this.
therefore i have demonstrated that the problem essentially solve is itself the bad news is that the problem is human lives.
>>70369608
There are no homosexuals in the rise of empires, homosexuality is not natural, if comes only due to degeneracy in societies so that people cultivate that perversion.
Which is why people who do those acts should get their heads removed from their shoulders, to keep society healthy.
>>70369608
>Na. Gay people are a constant part of human life. They've been around through the rise of every empire, as well as it's fall. Basically on a global historical scale there's no direct correlation between homosexuals and anything, for that matter.
What you say is true but when a society accepts gays that is when it falls.
>>70370862
How so? San Francisco remains wealthy and powerful despite da evil homos.
look at rome and greece so .. I guess so.
>>70370970
Don't be fooled, it's already beginning to fall
>>70367688
To be fair, Roman Civilization did not fall because of Homosexuality. If anything they fell during a time when anti-Homosexuality with Christianity was very popular.
Really. The Roman legions did not fall because they let homosexuals join the army.
Actually, my theory is that they lost was because Christianity undermined the institution that was slavery which keep the war machines fed.
That said the Eastern Roman empire lasted until 1453 which was destroyed by the most anti-homosexual religion of all time (though technically to them having sex with boys was not homo).
Really, homosexuals won't destroy society. What props society up is technology and militaries.
If homosexuals began a campaign of getting rid of the military and do away with science and engineering in society then yeah... Then homosexuality will do away with civilization.
>>70367688
Yes!
I guess you could argue Calhoun's Behavioral Sink but that's for overpopulation
>>70371586
>believing this shit
Decadence always leads to downfall. They attempted to fix things up near the end, but failed.
Nah, men have been fucking men forever. Back in the day straight men used to fag out on occasion without any taboo.
>>70368754
not anymore
>>70371805
Arguably, Rome was more decadent during Caligula's time. However, Rome fell to the barbarians when it embraced Christianity and turned its back on its pagan roots.
Coincidence?
Not likely, homosexuals are common within all mammals.
>>70367688
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TivVcfSBVSM
>>70372222
see>>70369696
it is common to other mammals but still a sign of societal collapse therefore there still exist a correlation.
>>70372523
Can you specify how homosexuals caused the fall of the Roman Empire?
>>70372523
oh ok, lets assume there is a correlation, do you think we should start mass murdering them? make them feel worse about being gay hoping they would eventually just go away?
What do you think we should do about it?
>>70367688
>homosexuality in Ancient Greece was almost universal long before Greece or later Macedon ever became a major power
>Alexander had gay lovers
>Sulla had gay lovers
>Julius Caesar was a bisexual and bottom, contemporaries snarked "he was a husband to his men's wives, and a wife to his men"
>homosexuality predated the apex of the Roman empire
>a number of persian satraps were open and willing cuckolds long before the apex of the Persian empire
>gay prostitution and catamites were prevalent throughout all of east Asian civilization until the 19th century
>sodomy in the elite schools in Britain was practically routine and ritualized long before the British Empire's sunset
I'm going to say not only is it not causative but it's not even correlated
There is a correlation between homosexuality and human overpopulation.
Literally the mother starts to be "immune" to a protein that affects to the brain development of the male fetus after having her first son, and that "immunity" grows with each son (not daughter), so if you are the younger of 7 brothers, you've got all the ballots to be a fag.
It's just a natural mechanism to prevent men going out there inseminating women without control.
All that jew cultural marxist shit is the problem.
>>70367688
Absolutely. Rampant homosexuality is a symptom of societal decay.
>>70373029
This, Homosexuality has been going on for as long as their has been civilization.
The only difference is that it was more of taboo sexual fetish back than, now it's a lifestyle for some reason.
>>70370862
Homosexuality was always accepted part of life, but it may be publicly boasted of.
But you know keep blaming the homosexuals. Not like your country falls apart right now and you do nothing but browse /pol/.
>>70373096
Again. Why did Roman Empire fall when it embraced a religion that was anti-homosexual and prospered when many of its leaders were practiced homosexual activity?
>>70373259
I think the difference is arguably that homosexuality was almost never a unipolar decision in history i.e. men would fuck boys, and also their wives.
>>70373364
may not*
>>70371550
Poop patrol vs
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/04/06/former-coal-ceo-sentenced-to-a-year-in-prison-for-2010-west-virginia-coal-mine-disaster/
I dunno, hard to tell who has it worse. A poop patrol, or a CEO getting away with a year in jail for 29 murders.
>>70369289
And where are they now? Oh yeah, in ruins.
Gay= good bye once proud empire.
>>70371805
You make an excellent argument. I am totally convinced.
>>70373604
FFS. Can you not read. The Empire fell when the Romans embraced Christianity. Not when they embraced so called degeneracy.
>>70367688
Question doesn't make sense, homosexuality as an identity only exists in our modern world view. Homosexuality as a practice is present at all times in every society.
Actually, the greatest periods of cultural achievement are imbued with both homosexuality and misogyny - men totally free from the constraints of women and nature, creating the world that fits their ideals. Just look at ancient Greece, the renaissance - it's fully of women-hating faggotry.
>>70373604
>He doesn't know Roman or Greek history.
How are you gonna find a husband with a brain that small?
>>70367688
LOL. Faggots gonna fag. Do real men care? No.Enjoy your AIDS faggot.
>>70373593
>>70373729
>changing the subject to comething completely unrelated
wew lad, we aren't talking about neocon CEOs, we're talking about why fags are degenerating society.
Well, it's too late now, since you outed yourself as a redditor with that signature unironic passive-aggressive patronization.
Back to upvote land, laddy.
>>70373756
>>70373998
I don't listen to fags trying to defend a civilization that fell to a bunch of goths, whom they brought in as refugees.
>>70374227
Ceasar would not have accepted the goth refugees. It was the Christian emperors that were cucked because the did away with the coliseum and slaves.
>>70373756
Eh, they would have fallen no matter what, because of the events set in motion when Julius Cesar crossed the Rubicon. The disinheritance of nobles, the watering down of citizenship by admitting scores of Celts and Germans, degrading of the currency and extreme inequality all can be traced to too much success, expansion and populism.
Christianity was just one more nail in the coffin. It's embrace was sign the Romans had given up on their own culture.
>>70374227
Listening to an American. Never has a civilisation fallen faster and more cucked at a 50% divorce rate because of all the Jamal cock they imported.
>>70374623
My point, if anti-homosexuality was the key to keeping a civilization together, it failed to keep the Roman empire together. Otherwise, the Romans could have fought off the goths and then the Muslims.
>>70372953
The problem is we can't objectively prove whether someone is gay or not. We find a way to rehabilitate gays humanely, put a social stigmata on homosexuality, and execute anyone promoting homosexuality. With luck gays will turn themselves in to be rehabilitated or hide so deep in the closet that they can't affect society.
>>70373051
Its a theory, but its never been proven. And what about gays with no brothers or sisters?
>>70374701
>divorce and Jamal cock being the problem
Actually you're right, these are serious problems. Divorce should never have been legalized, and we need to find out about the return policies on all of our slaves.
>>70367688
Not just homosexuality, but sexual liberation and promiscuity in general. A society's cultural acheivement is tied directly to the sexual retraint of its citizens. Sex should only be between husband and wife.
>>70376680
FFS did you not read any of what was said. The Roman Empire used to have orgies and cucking at the height of its power. Yet when it fell it was conservative Christian.
>>70367688
Yes, but no where near as strong as the one w between giving women political power
>>70371550
> Hey man want an unpaid job sweeping shit?
> Yeah cool, will remember to wear my favorite Tokyo T-shirt for this performance art, will look so random.
>>70370862
goddamn most of you faggots have no idea what you're talking about. its embarrassing
