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http://thefederalist.com/2016/03/08/why-do-catholics-support-an-unrepentant-strip-club-owner-for-president/

What did you mean about Catholics being cucks again /pol/?
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come on Op, you forgot to do the trendy thing and call Catholics cucks because of the Pope's actions
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:')
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catholic trump supporter reporting in
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>>70354852

Trump for Pope!

He's roughly as Catholic as the one we have now.
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>>70354852
They're not backing the TRUE CONSERVATIVE™ candidate
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Donald of Bouillion confirmed 4 leading the next crusade
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>>70355164
We didn't vote for the man, but we're niether are we going to further divide the church over it.
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>>70354852
Good. Fuck the cuck pope, he'll turn us all into sedevacantists
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>>70354852
DEUS КEК
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>>70354852
Those aren't true Catholics.

True Catholics welcome their brothers in Christ from Mexico.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL-6ko2xlxo

there is a reason they are choosing donald over lyin' ted

One is a traitor, the other genuinely cares about this country
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>>70355461
Why the fuck would a papist back a heretic?
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>>70356759
>True Catholics

True catholics obey the fucking law. There's a separation of church and state and there is nothing unjust in a country having borders and enforcing border policy.
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You know,a lot of Catholics don't give a shit about the Pope. They just follow the traditions and beliefs without needing the Pope to tell them what to do. Well,first world Catholics do anyway.
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>>70356759
Good protestants give their wives to be blessed with the pastor's holy sperm
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>>70357134
>not showing hospitality to your brothers in Christ
Christ would be ashamed of being associated with people like you.
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>>70358074
>>70358074
thats why he was crucified, to forgive our shortcomings
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>>70358074
>Enforcing the law
>Christ should be ashamed
If someone would enter my home through my window to have some of my stuff is kicking him out and deciding I will donate to charity on my terms and not be taken advantage of also "Unchristian"? Fucking moron, you make catholicism look like some kind of a commie-hippie cult that's all about "muh-feels" and wouldn't last a generation

And, in accordance with catholic teaching on separation of church and state, the clergy, pope included, still don't get to dictate border policy. This should be left to security and law enforement experts. As far as I know they want a wall.
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>>70357433
We need a wartime pope baka desu senpai
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Trump's the only Republican that doesn't try to push that hillbilly evangelical bullshit on us.
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>>70359055
>not turning the other cheek
It's like you don't really believe Christ is the Lord.
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>>70359560
I believe in church teachings not your private version of Jesus running on emotional blackmail. You should be a protestant. Fuck off
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>>70354852
Cuban here, makes me proud to see most see through the Pope PR campaign to keep leftists from leaving the church.
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>>70359784
>private version
I'm pretty sure it was Christ Himself who said that you should not resist evil.

It's a shame people like you who consider themselves Christians can't understand such simple lessons.
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>>70358074
You realize Mexicans can still immigrate legally right? He's not banning Mexicans, he wants to start enforcing the law. They will have to follow the same laws as me if I want to immigrate to America.
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>>70360485
But what about those who don't immigrate legally? Should we reject them on the basis of worldly laws and forget what Christ asked of us?
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>>70360766
Yes. Christ never asked us to allow criminal to exploit us.
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>>70360112
>I'm pretty sure it was Christ Himself who said that you should not resist evil.

I'm pretty sure you are mentally retarded.
How come Christian countries had militaries and law enforcement over centuries if a reaction to violence was to be surrender?
Moron.
I bet christians for 2000 years were unfamiliar with your great wisdom and thus all completely wrong.

And btw, catholic teachings on just war and warfare in general are very extensive. Pacifism is a heresy and you are an idiot
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>>70360766
Christ explicity said to follow worldy laws and not try to establish his kingdom on earth for it is in heaven. You idiot, we aren't muslim, you sound like an ISIS member.
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>>70360863
Indeed, he asked us to not fight those who wrong us.

>>70361103
Christian countries haven't been truly Christian for centuries.

>“You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

Matthew 5:42
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>>70361103
You are correct.

Turn the other cheek is about being merciful, not a cuck.
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>>70361281
No, Christ said render unto Caesar so that his followers wouldn't fight against secular authorities.

>>70361456
So many private versions here today.
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>>70361289
So we should stop punishing murderers and thiefs? By your logic, we should have no laws and no punishment and there should be no such thing as criminals? Police are the opposite of Christ?
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>>70361618
Punishing murderers and thieves is the job of secular authorities. We, as Christians, shouldn't care for worldly matters only to forget what Christ expects from us. The church has called for war in many occasions throughout history because it became a secular institution.
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>>70361952
The presidency is a secular authority.
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>>70361289
>Christian countries haven't been truly Christian for centuries.

>Cathoicism was wrong for centuries because I don't like its teachings

Just start your fucking personal protestant congregation already where you can teach your followers your private own version of True Christianity and fuck off.

>No, Christ said render unto Caesar so that his followers wouldn't fight against secular authorities.

That literally means not interfering with Trump's wall if he wants to legally build it. How dense are you?
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>>70361952
Trump is a secular authority you retard. Catholics are not voting for him as bishop or something.
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>>70361281
>>70361456
>>70361618
Don't you detect the snark in his posts? Probably an atheist faggot who denies God because he needs to feel good with himself about sucking dicks 24/7

Stop giving him attention

>we, as Christians
my fucking ass
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>>70362061
And?

>>70362099
I'm not even Protestant, but we all know the Church has done things that went against Christ's teaching and there's no denying it.

>>70362099
Where did I say anything about interfering with Trump's wall?

All I ever said was that you should reject your brothers in Christ if they come to you.

>>70362314
Why so aggressive, bro?
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>>70362429
should not reject*
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The Pope could get along with Bernie pretty well.
I imagine both of them sharing a cup of wine, while they talk about the best bull-prepping techniques.
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>>70356288
Sedevacantist here. Can confirm.
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>>70362429
>And?
I don't understand what your point is. Catholics are electing a secular government official. Not a Bishop or something.
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catholic trump voter here. Fuck the pope. He's a piece of shit.

And most of the priests I know are pretty based and not afraid to call out leftist bullshit. Although none have talked about trump yet, either for or against.
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>>70362429
>but we all know the Church has done things that went against Christ's teaching and there's no denying it.

yes, but using violence in itself is not against church teaching.

>All I ever said was that you should reject your brothers in Christ if they come to you

"Coming to you" is a very broad term. If I come to you via a break-in you have every right to reject me
Illegal border crossing is a crime and a sin.
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>>70357134
Separation of Church and State is a freemason idea. But nevertheless, Francis is wrong, and Catholics don't have to listen to him on political matters not directly pertaining to the dogma of the faith.
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>>70362783
They are electing a secular government official because they want to stop illegal immigration.

My point is that they are trying to bar Christians on the basis of worldly laws and therefore being Unchristian.

>>70362885
>yes, but using violence in itself is not against church teaching.
It is against Christ's teaching. Find me a passage in the Gospels where He supports violence.

>Illegal border crossing is a crime and a sin.
A crime, yes, but how is it a sin?
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I find traditional Catholicism a good excuse to hate on Jews for religious reasons and hence not fear persecution.

Sedevacantism is the best branch because they are immune to excommunication. You can just say the anti-Pope doesn't have the authority to do that.

That being said Christcuckoldry is bs.
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>>70362099
>not interfering
I think the separation of Church and state doesn't mean the Church should just shut up when the states does something wrong. In this situation however the pope is a faggot marxist
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>>70354852
The pope is a total cuck, my fucking god!
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>>70363170
>And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money changers, and the chairs of them that sold doves:
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>>70363170
They aren't trying to bar Christians. They're trying to bar criminals. What is being enforced is that no criminals may enter, not no christians. Them being christian is as relevant as their facourite colour otherwise, the only qualifier to be enforced is whether or not they break the law by entering. Mexicans and Christians can come in legally.
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>>70363311
>That being said Christcuckoldry is bs.

True Christianity kept the West strong and the Jews in check for centuries.
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>>70362429
Because you're always ruining catholic threads with your cucky sofist rhetoric. Last time as a tripfag with an american vpn and now as a huemonkey.
Fuck off
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>>70362558
He has already been invited by Pope Francis
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>>70356288
Same. I'm actually born in Poland. Gave up on being Catholic with this Pope. It's a fucking joke now.
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>>70356859
Rafael Cruz and his dominionist father are straight up heathens
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>>70363754
>Gave up on being Catholic with this Pope.

You made a mistake. You don't give up on the truth just because you don't like th Pope. That's like renouncing your citizenship because you don't like your leader.

The Truth is still the Truth, no matter what some leftist plant of a Pope says.
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>>70363399
Are you implying we have the same authority as Jesus and that asked us to do the same?

>>70363467
>Them being christian is as relevant as their facourite colour otherwise
Here's what I'm talking about. It is not. They are Christians and it is our duty to accept them regardless of secular laws.

>>70363565
>Last time as a tripfag with an american vpn and now as a huemonkey
Eu não faço ideia do que você está falando.
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>>70363170
>It is against Christ's teaching. Find me a passage in the Gospels where He supports violence.

Find any passage of the Gospel where he relates to justice and answer how can you bring anyone to justice without force.
Also, look up the old testament, A lot of war there.
Just because Jesus wanted to moderate violence and plant the ideas that you don't immiediatly have to lash out when attacked and that you shouldn't dehumanize and genocide your enemies but see humans in them even if you are fighting at the moment doesn't mean Christianity endorses pacifism. Some protestant sects do. The catholics don't
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>>70355265
You fucking newfags are fucking disgusting, reading through all the goddamn shitposts, what the fuck even happened to /pol/. Btw newfriend :^)
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Catholic Traditionalist here, I can't vote but I have familiy in the US and I shill for Trump all day everyday in normiebook. Also Francis a cuck.
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>>70354852

B-but muh Pope. Muh Friar Cuck
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>>70364042
No it isn't. If someone steals, is it a Christian duty to not punish them if they're Christian? No. They broke the law and therefore deserve a punishment. Being christian does not excuse you from the law. If a Christian breaks into my home it is not my duty to accept him. He is breaking the law and being unchristian.
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>>70364042
Jesus gave us a model to follow. If some homosexuals were demonstrating in a church, you'd throw those fags out.

Accepting others as fellow Christians doesn't mean letting them into the country without the right paperwork.
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>>70363546
>kept
Nice past tense. It was truly the Germanic nobility in positions of authority not anything intrinsically related to the gospel. If anything the current Pope is more true to the gospel message than medieval Christianity as everyone knows.
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>>70364220
>>70364383

Plus why should we be either:

1. Dechristianising the Middle East by accepting Christian refugees
2. Dechristianising our own country by accepting other refugees
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>>70363754
>>70363950

I'd like to add: Find an SSPX or a Sedevacantist church. Or even a church that says the Latin Mass regularly. Most conservative priests think Francis is naive at best and a fool at worst.
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>>70364438
>Nice past tense

Yes, Past tense because your precious German nobility cooperated with the Jews and the protestants to steal church land and property and finance themselves, ruining European society.

Francis is a liberal who follows a disorder socialist reading of the Gospel that was popularized by South American communists.
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>>70364049
>Find any passage of the Gospel where he relates to justice and answer how can you bring anyone to justice without force.
Secular justice?

>Also, look up the old testament, A lot of war there.
Why would I look up the Old Testament? Jesus said everything we needed to hear about the Mosaic Law.

>doesn't mean Christianity endorses pacifism
Christ tells us to reject violence through and through. Not because of pacifism, but because we shouldn't be trapped in the struggles of this world.

>>70364220
It is not your duty to punish anyone, Christian or not.

>>70364383
Paperwork is irrelevant when it is another Christian knocking on your door.
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>>70364875
>It is not your duty to punish anyone, Christian or not.

And I'm not, nor is anyone in this thread. It's the secular authorities and that's what we are voting on.

Your argument has fallen apart and been defeated. You're just continuing to troll now
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>>70364438

Blatantly false. Medieval Popes might have done things like selling the Papacy and having mistresses and whatnot, but they were orthodox in terms of doctrine.

Francis says borderline-heretical things and he needs people to clarify his comments in light of Catholic teaching basically whenever he opens his mouth
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>>70364875
There are other ways to help someone besides letting them into your country on the assumption that they have the same religion as you.
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It's just the current pope who is a massive cuckold who is not a Christian. It's embarassing for the faith as a whole to have that man as face.
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>>70354852
>tfw catholic
>gf is orthodox
>gonna raise qt russian american christians
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>>70364875

>we should not be trapped in the struggles of this world

That's the Gnostic position, which is heretical. Church militant, baby
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>>70365192
Nice
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>>70365065
But I'm not talking about the secular authorities, I'm talking about Christians rejecting Christians.

>>70365153
I'm sure there are. My question is about those that already will get into your country. What do you do about them? Send them back because the secular authorities you voted for told you so?

That is entirely against Christ's teachings.

>>70365229
Do not forsake your immortal soul for worldly institutions.
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>>70365192
Also, do you go to your churches separately, or do you take turns visiting each others?
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>>70365476
You are talking about secular authorities. This thread is about supporting Trump and you're saying Christians shouldn't. Your entire argument is

>christians shouldn't vote because who ever they vote for will enforce laws on other christians.

You're retarded
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>>70365476
How does enforcing immigration law violate Christ's teaching?
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>>70365476

Seriously though, read up about the Gnostic heresy, which is exactly what you're endorsing, and you'll see it's one of the first heresies that the church came up against.
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>>70354852
Im a Catholic and i love and hate trumps views. In the end i agree with more than i disagree with but i believe in the human contribution to climate change and i think Mexican immigration is a miniscule problem compared to Islams mobilization. Catholics shouldnt feel obligated to have open borders, but Mexicans have some of the most devout Catholics in the world and if I had to choose a poor country from which immigrants would spill en masse into the US, Mexico would probably make top 3.
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This is why mormons, evangelical and baptist are scum. Meanwhile catholics are voting for trump because they have half a brain.
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>>70365738
Muslims are sneaking in through the Mexican border.

Mexican catholicism is a beautiful thing, which is why I think Mexicans should fix the problems in their own country before spreading them here.
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I wish Palpatine was still the pope
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>>70365654
>>70365656
The problem is that you're supporting worldly powers with the intent of barring the entrance of Christians.

Secular law shouldn't be placed above God's law if you're truly a Christian. Let the government officials come and do what's required of them if anything, but do not close your doors to your brothers in Christ for arbitrary, man-made political borders.

>>70365686
Read the Pauline epistles, there's nothing Gnostic about them.
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Cont.

I accept the general Protestant critique that the Medieval Church has changed substantially the Gospel message. But unlike Protestants, and with Evola, I consider this to be an entirely positive development, from an anarchic egalitarian Palestinian doomsday cult to an imperial religion! Who would have thought!

But next comes what is most beautiful about Sedevacantism, is that the Church will never revert back to what it was in the Middle Ages. The wheel og history just doesn't turn backwards. Thus Sedevacantists have a carte blanche to act out on positive, medieval consevative values on religious grounds without ever having to worry that the religion will change. Sedevacantism is a new reform, or counter-reform, of Christianity and will go down in history as such. It will form a new religion in the future. And it is glorious!
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>>70354852
but he's gone full Kasich on abortion
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>>70365686
>Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will.

Romans 12:2
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>>70366111

What you're endorsing is Gnostic.

Are you one of those Pentacostal niggers? You seem like you have no knowledge of Thomism.
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>>70366273
>>70366285
>For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight. As it is written: "He catches the wise in their craftiness";

1 Corinthians 3:19
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>>70366111
>The problem is that you're supporting worldly powers with the intent of barring the entrance of Christians.

We aren't. We are supporting worldy powers with the intent of baring the entrance or criminals. Christians can come in legally. The people who will be barred has everything to do with them obeying the law and nothing to do with religion.

You are spinning in circles now. You've been defeated st every turn in this thread and now you're just looping back to the start while you dodge every point your proven wrong on.
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Catholicism is the funniest religion because it's so blatantly made up and continues to be made up as it goes along.

All you fucking idolatrous heathens are going to burn in the lake of fire for worshipping false prophets over The Lord
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>>70366273
>>70366375

Fucking Pentecostal jungle monkey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDnLbp2Q3Kg
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>>70366455
Protestantism was made up by a fat german monk 500 years ago.
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>>70366375
>The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

1 Corinthians 2:14

>>70366561
>Paul was Pentecostal
At least read the Bible before engaging into discussions.

>>70366391
You're putting worldly laws above the laws of God as a Christian and telling me I'm proven wrong?
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>>70356288
>This...this is not appropriate.
Francis' exact words at that moment.
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>>70366651

Ok, you're just a troll
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>>70366285
Paul was a quasi-Gnostic and spoke openly using Gnostic terminology such as the three types of persons, material, psychical, spiritual, the Archons, the Aeons, Sophia the mysteries, etc. Only by means of mendacious and fraudulent, that is orthodox, translations does that fact not appear transparently. But worry not. I won't reveal the secret.
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>>70354852
Meanwhile, the head of the Church of England has just found out he's a literal cuck baby. Literally headline news on the BBC.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36002621
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>>70366651
Your logical literally boils down to christians shouldn't vote or obey any laws because only godly laws matter. By your logic christians should observe no laws or country and should not vote. You're as wrong as it gets.
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>tfw when /his/ is more red-pilled than /pol/ sometimes
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>>70366455
>anglican
>started when a fatass homer simpson lookalike decadent king wanted to leave his wife to fuck some other bitch but the pope wouldn't let him
>now ordaining women

penn jillette.jpg
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>>70366821
>head of the Church of England
That's the Queen m8. What are they teaching children these days?
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>>70366740
Why do you keep hiding behind secularism when this is all about your faith as a Christian?

>>70366841
It's not about voting or not, it's about not becoming something Christ told us not to become. Respecting secular authorities doesn't mean we should abandon our beliefs.
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>>70367103
No one's hiding behind secularism. There were no open borders in the middle ages when all nations were catholic.
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>>70366775

I won't tell anyone
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The thing with the pope is that I think we couldn't have a traditionalist one even if we wanted. He'd have shit thrown at him from every side. The general trend of society has gone to the left so a traditional pope might have more detrimental than positive effects on the faith as a whole.

I'm still a traditionalist though. Just putting my thoughts on the matter.
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>>70367309
All the liberal Vatican II types are dying off. It won't be much longer until we have a Traditionalist Pope.
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>>70363950
>The Truth is still the Truth
The Magic Sky Fairy is the Magic Sky Fairy.
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>>70367103
This will be my last reply to you because you're obviously trolling.

If a Christian breaks into my home I will not accept him. I do not care that he is Christian because he is breaking into my home. I want the secular authority to deal with him. He should not be breaking into my home.

Breaking into a country is the same thing. He is a criminal and the secular authorities should deal with him. He is breaking in and stealing the benefits of a country he is not a part of.

If he wants to come in he can do it legally. It is possible to legally come in. It is entirely s choice to break the law to come in.

He should not be breaking in.
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>>70367506
Here's your (You), now go back to shoving bananas up your ass.
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>>70367253
What makes you think those nations had any say on theological matters? They were still secular institutions.

But Christ did not care about geopolitics. He merely avoided conflict with its powers.
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>>70367506

The Strawman-version-of-God is the Strawman-version-of-God
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>>70367309
But it doesn't matter if the entire world is throwing shit at him. It is not a democratic position where he has to appease the general public. It is a religious position where he is upholding an unchanging document. It is entire possible to have a strictly traditional pope even if SJW and the media hate him.
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>>70367585
>He is breaking in and stealing the benefits of a country
>caring more about worldly possessions than the salvation of another soul
I'm glad this is your last reply, because now I realize you're just pretending to be a Christian.
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>>70358074
>Christ would be ashamed

Just like he was ashamed of Mary Magdalene, right?
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>>70367966
I don't remember Mary Magdalene not showing hospitality to people.

Quite the contrary, in fact.
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>>70367633
Well, the Church certainly didn't disapprove of any of them.

Remember the words of Saint Joan of Arc:
>When asked whether God did not also love the English, Joan replied, “Yes, but he loves them more in England.”
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catholics are the less-cucked european races like italians, irish, polish. protestants are super-cucked anglo/german/scandinavian.
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>>70367966
>>70368272

Stop responding to the troll

>>70368393


Protestantism is the 16th-century version of multiculturalism (i.e. total cuckdom) so that makes sense
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>>70368272
>Saint Joan of Arc
You must be joking.
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>>70354852
>reee why are real Christians voting for someone in line with traditions rather than masonry?
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>>70356759
dumb nigger.
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>>70368505
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
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>>70367693
>>70367623
>Magic Sky Fairy intensifies
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what are we going to do about the eternal jesuit problem catholic bros?
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>>70368661
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>>70362558
came here to post this

did not read thread

wrote reply

will close tab

will tab back to game
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>>70368576
Great argument.
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>>70368739
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>>70356759
>tfw no true Scotsman
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>>70369001
>There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Galatians 3:28
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>>70369053
Jesus Christ isn't America.
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>>70369122
This is why you shouldn't be Christian Ameribro. No shitskin Brazillian can tell me to love Mexicans because I'm an atheist. I answer to no one. Do you? Are you a fucking cuck?
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>>70369053
>this means what I say
The only meaning of that is the missionary part of teaching people Christianity.
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>>70369053
Yes, but what does that have to do with citizenship?
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>>70369204
you answer to your media and educational masters.
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>>70369204
>I answer to no one
>Proceeds to answer to several secular authorities

Why are atheists such overgrown teenagers?
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>>70363754
The papacy has always been a joke, read the letters that they wrote to the mongol leaders.
Funny stuff.
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>>70369204
It also means you have children on hormone treatment so they can pretend they're the other gender despite only being 7 and gay people getting married and adopting kids and rampant slut and drug culture because you have no generally accepted moral code to guide you.
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>>70369204
>because I'm an atheist
There is still time to repent.

>>70369229
>>70369261
It means our Christian identity goes beyond nationality and ethnicity. We shouldn't care more about politics than we care about matters of faith.
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>>70369263
>>70369360

Atheism has no holy book, no Church, and no Pope. I can do whatever I want whenever I want. You are a cuck who gets order around by a spic pope.

>>70369402

I personally don't care about any of that shit, but there are socially conservative atheists like Davis Aurini and Captain Capitalism. Atheism has no moral content so it doesn't force you to be left wing, unlike Cuckianity.
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Anyway christianity has been an universal/globalist kind of cult since day1, I fail to understand why people get so enraged now about it. The foot washing thing is ancient too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_washing

Maundy (from Latin mandatum or mendicare),[1] or Washing of the Feet, is a religious rite observed by various Christian denominations. John 13:1–17 mentions Jesus performing this act. Specifically, in verses 13:14–17, He instructs them:

14 "If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another’s feet. 15 For I have given you an example, that you should do as I have done to you. 16 Most assuredly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master; nor is he who is sent greater than he who sent him. 17 If you know these things, blessed are you if you do them."

As such, many denominations (including Anglicans, Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians, and Catholics) observe the washing of the feet on Maundy Thursday of Holy Week.[1] Moreover, for some denominations, foot-washing was an example, a pattern. Many groups throughout Church history and many modern denominations have practiced foot washing as a church ordinance including the Adventists, Anabaptists, Baptists, and Pentecostals.[1]


Pol is literally underage kids.
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>>70369391
The Papacy has always been important to European civilization. Just because the Mongols didn't understand that doesn't prove anything.
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>>70369549
>There is still time to repent.

To what? Your non-existent magic sky fairy? If the Magic Sky Fairy gives you some hope in your shitty, corrupt faleva that's cool with me, but I live in a first world country so I don't need that.
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>>70369582
>FUCK YOU DAD! I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT!
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>>70369549
No it doesn't.
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>>70369649
Foot washing is a sign of humility and dignified leadership. It was only recently that the Pope turned it into a multicultural PR stunt.

"Universalism" isn't inherently negative either.

>From an ethical, universalist viewpoint, it’s essential, nay imperative, to preserve Western civilisation, which has established important moral principles to apply to humans and all other sentient beings. Without it, the world would — will? — be a much worse place. What other culture outlawed slavery for moral reasons? Without the West, the world descends into barbarism and moral particularism.

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2015/06/is-universalism-so-bad-for-whites/
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>>70369728
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hf-B9Tqkss
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>>70369582
>I personally don't care about any of that shit

I'm aware. Hence why atheists are so pathetic. They have no defence to their society getting complete destroyed by degeneracy.

>>70369649
the problem is that the foot washing was always for the poor. The statement was that the poor are spiritually no less than any else. What the pope did recently wasn't an act of humility and kindness towards the poor, it was towards a people who harbour endless hostility for us and openly want to wipe us off the earth, and they no doubt took this as encouragement.
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>>70359055
I agree with polski here
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>>70369961
universality has nothing to do with ethnically pure nations.
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>>70366039

>mexican catholicism
>beautiful thing
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>>70369677
Fucking read the english translations, it's one of the funniest stuff I've read in a while.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Dei_Patris_Immensa
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Cum_non_solum
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Viam_Agnoscere_Veritatis

JUST
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>>70370142

pic related.
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Daily reminder. We were dead the day we converted. Semite Abrahamism won, be it in its secular verision, Marxism or religious version, Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Many have thought against this, but is is all over now. Good night.
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>>70369691
It is a sign of immaturity to feel proud of living a good life while people suffer elsewhere in the world. Here you just come across as a spoiled brat who "answers to nobody."

A Christian upbringing could have prevented that.

>>70369857
Then you're not a Christian.
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>>70370036
Acknowledging a transcendent morality doesn't cancel out preserving your Ethnic identity. Read "Ethnos needs Logos" by E. Michael Jones.
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>>70369999
>They have no defence to their society getting complete destroyed by degeneracy.

That's bullshit. I provided counter examples.

The only really degenerate thing that bothers me is the white birthrate. Everything else doesn't matter.
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>>70370194
Many have fought*
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>>70355932
underrated for kek's sake
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>>70370151
>Pope telling some mongol savage to humble himself

What's the problem?
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>>70370207
You are a retarded nigger.
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>>70370207
No, it's just a sign that I wasn't raised to feel guilty for being happy, unlike you, who was raised Catholic. Enjoy your guilt and poverty, loser. I am going to live high on the secular hog.
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>>70370239
Homosexuality and liberalsm destroys white culture, but you alt-right/libertarian fags like to pretend to be brave individualists so you never bother with actually defending white culture.
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>>70370142
I was talking about this.
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>>70359055
>>70357134
>>70359784
>>70361103

I wish we had based Slavs in the U.S
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>>70354852
>tfw catholic New Yorker

Can't wait to BTFO of El Rato on the 19th.
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>>70370579
You do in Chicago, don't you?
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>>70370239
2 people is hardly a good counter example. The fact is that without an objective morality from a higher authority it's almost impossible to claim any of those previous things I mentioned were wrong. Even if you manage to justify it in your own head you'll never be able to convince society as a whole of it which is why every society that's tuning atheist now is proportionally turning into a degenerate hell hole a long side it. In a Christian society, people go to church and have community values and get married and have kids. In an atheist society people bring children to parades where they watch men suck each others dicks on a float and tell the kids it's a healthy lifestyle choice and thst they can cut their dick off if they want to be a girl instead.

Objective morality from a higher authority>personal fluid morality you can change anytime you feel like it
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>>70370446
>and liberalsm

Liberalism can be contained. It's already falling apart in Europe. Centre left parties are the least popular they have been in 70 years.

>>70370446
>Homosexuality
Less than 5% of the population.
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>>70370329
Another excellent argument. I didn't expect any less from American education.

>>70370365
You're young, one day you'll look back and realize you're not in control of your life, and that you do answer to a higher authority.
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>>70359560
ISSO E UMA BAITA DE UMA ISCA JUNINHO
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>>70370678
Liberals is a cancer that has infected every aspect of Canadian society ffor the last 50 years. You're naive if you think it's just a birthrate problem.
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>>70370672
>2 people is hardly a good counter example.

One counter example is all that's needed to disprove the assertion that every single atheist is a communist faggot.

Biblical morality isn't even used in our society anymore, and it wasn't in use in your glorious 1950s utopia either. That was common law, which is very much Earthly and not divine at all.

There is no such thing as objective morality. The best you can do is minimize human suffering, which is what our laws do for the most part.

If you think that Biblical law minimizes human suffering then you have obviously never read the Bible and don't know what you're talking about, but you are a Christfag retard so what else should I expect, eh?

>>70370721
>You're young, one day you'll look back and realize you're not in control of your life, and that you do answer to a higher authority.

The oldest atheist I know is 85. I'm sure he'll realize this any day now.
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>>70370207
You shouldn't be welcoming more people in your country when you are still working on helping the people already there.

"But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel." - 1 Timothy 5:8
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>>70370997
Do you know that Israeli Jews have a birthrate of more than 3 children per woman, and Israel is almost as liberal as Canada? Would you really give a shit about faggots and degenerates if you weren't in danger of going extinct in your own country?
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>>70354852
TRUMP IS LITERALLY NOT HITLER
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>>70354852
>catholics
aka mexicans
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>>70371317
>Isreal is almost as liberal as canada

Holy fuck if you are not joking you need to seriously look into this. You could not be further from the truth. Isreal is one of the most conservative countries active today
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>>70354852
>Muh catholicucks
>Muh nigger feets
>Muh muslim feets
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>>70354852
So what is not /pol/ Catholics?

That Truymp will MAGA or that your spiritual leader cuckjed himself to rapista?
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>>70371112
I didn't say every atheist is a communist faggot I'm saying that an atheist society is a communist faggot society.
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>>70371518
That's also wrong. China, Japan, and South Korea are the most atheist places on Earth and none of them are faggy or SJWy. China even has an officially atheist government, and they aren't even economically socialist anymore.
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>>70371112
>The oldest atheist I know is 85. I'm sure he'll realize this any day now.
I pray that he will.

>>70371134
Attention to the fact that Paul talks about one's relatives. If you cannot provide to your own then it's only natural that you won't be able to provide to other Christians. But that certainly isn't the case in America.
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>>70371699
>I pray that he will.

You're a low information, low IQ, shitskin piece of shit and you need to get the fuck off this board.

Fuck gOD and fuck Christ.
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>>70362558
I think humans are the only primate without pigment in their hands and feet. Look at that skin color difference on that guys foot. weird.
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>>70371843

Not subtle enough
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>>70356759
Mexicans literally made Catholicism into a satanic cult in their country, they need to go back
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>>70371682
Notice that those are all Asian countries which were never strongly Christian in the first plsce . Every atheist white country is beyond cucked and SJW while the Christian european countries are the least cucked. It is a fact that in Europe the further a country strays from God the further down the path of cuckdom they go
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>>70371843
You seem really angry for someone who claims to be happy. Are you sure there's nothing lacking in your life? Perhaps a purpose or just peace of mind?

God can give you that, if only you're willing to accept Him.
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>>70366671
This. /pol/acks are a bunch of illiterates
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>>70371682
>>70372183

And guess which religion is growing most quickly in China and South Korea, at least
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MAKE THE VAITCAN GREAT AGAIN
most white catholics are fed up with this gay muslim loving shit
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>>70371843
A
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>>70372403
FUCKING
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That's nice and all, but a lot of Catholics are still lefty degenerates for the most part who support abortion and faggotry.
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>>70354852
I think the Vatican regrets ever electing a spic pope.
Should've elected that one cardinal from New York instead. He seems pretty redpilled.
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>>70372501
LEAF
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>>70372183
There are no majority atheist countries in Europe, but there are plenty of majority Christian ones, including Sweden.
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>>70354852
Its because Catholics reconize authority and reject democracy.

Think about it. God Emperor?

How can a traditionalist catholic not support Trump.
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>>70372708
Yes but they are all less Christian than they've ever been. Sweden is one of the least Christian countries in europe, and it's less Christian recently than its ever been in history. Christianity has been declining rapidly in Sweden in the last century and look what happened. Meanwhile poland is still strongly Christian and not cucked at all.

Sweden literally works against you argument here when you look at the numbers.
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>>70371682
>Japan
>Korea
>China
>most atheist

pleddit memes everyone
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/05/20/think-christianity-is-dying-no-christianity-is-shifting-dramatically/
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>>70373661
fugg wrong link
http://www.chinahighlights.com/travelguide/christianity.htm
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>>70373290
No it doesn't, because it's still majority Christian. In fact, it's majority Church of Sweden, so it's supermajority Christian.

Look around. Every single Church is full of cucks, even the Catholic Church. Even the 19th Century Catholic Church would have welcomed migrant scum because it's consistent with Christian values.

If you don't want to be a cuck, don't be a fucking Cuckstian. It's that fucking simple. If Jesus were alive today he would be the Campus organizer for all the downtrodden shitskins, LGBT faggots, womyn, and other assorted losers, just like he was in Roman times. FUCK Jesus.

>>70373661
>less than 10% Christian

Go back to /r/Christianity
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>>70374079
Yes it does. Do you not know how numbers work? Christianity has been declining and it has been getting way more cucked. The less Christian it gets, the more cucked it gets. This proves you wrong.
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>>70374079
Jesus Christ was very clear on gaya and trannies lmao. He was not shy on telling them they're sinners.
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tfw Trump organizes a 2nd crusade and the Catholics in America rise up to save Europe from itself

Deus Vult
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>>70354852
You're all going to hell for not obeying the will of the pope!
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>>70355329
underrated
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>>70375054

t. someone who only knows the Protestant strawman version of Papal infallibility
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>>70374573
>Jesus Christ was very clear on gaya and trannies lmao. He was not shy on telling them they're sinners.

Totally false. He never said anything specific about LGBT. You're just another Christfag that has never read the Bible.

>>70374382
China is majority atheist and isn't cucked, so your theory is bullshit.
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>>70375884

>what are arguments from natural law

Protcuck please go
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>>70376040
What is Prot- from?
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>>70375884
I literally proved.you wrong with not only argument but numbers lmao. Keep denying it though, typical atheist denying empirical evidence because it doesn't match their feelings.
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>>70376411
Which numbers? The numbers that prove that Sweden is a Christian supermajority country? That sure proves that atheism is the problem hurp durp derp derp.
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>>70376654
The ones where Christianity is shrinking.

>your claim
Atheism makes you less cucked

>my claim
Christianity makes you less cucked

>the actual numbers
As Christianity declines and atheism rises in Sweden it become drastically more cucked


Facts prove you wrong. Go ahead and and deny them though, I know how atheists can't handle the truth.
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>>70354852
The pope is a cuck and a heretic, he does not represent us.

SEDE VACANTE!
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>>70376306

Protestant, because Protestantism is a dumbed-down version of Catholicism
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>>70376872
>Atheism makes you less cucked

It does. There are no atheist majority countries where Sharia is taking hold.

>Christianity makes you less cucked
It doesn't. Every single cucked country is majority Christian, and the Pope is a cuck. Here is your beloved Christian Church of Sweden.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/05/worlds-first-lesbian-bishop-calls-church-remove-crosses-install-muslim-prayer-space/

>>the actual numbers
>As Christianity declines and atheism rises in Sweden it become drastically more cucked

You're assuming that everyone who isn't Christian is an atheist, which is false. The largest non-Christian group in these countries is the Muslims, followed by the "spiritual but not religious" people who believe in new age bullshit and higher powers. These are the people who are most likely to be SJW. They refuse to identify as atheist because of people like me, Sam Harris, and Richard Dawkins. The actual number of atheists who are pro-Islam, mulitculti cucks is vanishingly small, especially since the rise of New Atheism. The same can't be said for Christianity, which has morphed into the number one most cucked thing in Western society.

>>70377127

I'm a Catholic raised atheist so that has nothing to do with me.
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>>70367872
Fuck off cuck

A criminal must be punished.
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>>70376654
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>>70379218
unaffiliated != atheist
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>>70379430
Little difference between Atheist, agnostic and deism.They all believe in moral relativism.
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