Why does this board want so many people to suffer? Whether advocating war or genocide, keeping people in poverty, denying rights and fair justice, or promoting environmental degradation, it's all based around making people's lives shittier.
Why do you want people who you've never met to be miserable? What is so wrong with people living peaceful, fulfilling lives and finding happiness in their own way?
Because so many want us to suffer and be genocided. Blacks, jews, and muslims are very open about what they think should happen to whites.
>>70342698
Something about road to heaven goes through hell or some shit like that.
>>70342698
The Renaissance came after the Dark Ages.
>>70342698
Jewish law. Eye for an eye. Is you dont agree you are an antisemit znd i will sue.
Because usually all of that comes at my expense. I don't care about the lives of third worlders.
>>70342698
Because they find happines in the destruction of our stuff.
>>70342860
Muslim isn't a race, they care about religion. Oversimplification of the narrative helps the left.
>>70342958
Keked.
>>70342860
So you're no better than blacks, jews, or muslims? What makes white nationalism any more justified than zionism?
Because this planet is finite.
If I want more shit, someone else is going to have less shit. Fuck that guy.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
>>70342698
Because the golden age of current cycle is far behind us. We live in the age of degeneracy, and violence and suffering are necessary evils to bring forth the new age of truth.
>>70342698
>What is so wrong with people living peaceful, fulfilling lives and finding happiness in their own way?
Protip, you're gonna die either way anyways.
>>70342958
Merchant you are greatest ally.
>>70343120
Did I say muslims were a race?
I don't believe there's happiness without struggle and suffering, I think if your Utopia was real, most of us would lead unhappy, empty lives.
Poverty and justice are to be fought, not simply displaced by making the lives of everyone worse by redistribution of wealth.
>>70343273
No, but you listed it after two other races and said they care about white people. They don't, they care about our religion.
>>70343250
>We live in the age of degeneracy, and violence and suffering are necessary evils to bring forth the new age of truth.
And yet people in every other age were far more violent. This is currently the most peaceful time in the history of civilization.
How would this "new age of truth" be any different and why does it require violence and suffering?
>>70343296
An easier example for people like OP would be cooking your own food. You put work, even if minimal, into making something edible and taste great. It's satisfying, it's rewarding. Sure, just buying snacks from the local gas station might give a similar effect that'd make the effort put into making your own food pointless, but there will always be something empty about it in comparison.
>>70342698
Because I want a world where success is earned. In order for that to be a reality that necessitates a world in which some suffer.
Would I like the general misery of the world to go down? Absolutely. I give to several charities out of my own pocket in order to further that goal. However, I cannot stomach a person who chooses to moralize on behalf of others, and who's solution relies on taking from others by force (ie. paying for something through taxes).
I think we can bring the standard of living up across the board without needing to drag the top down as well.
>>70342698
Because they're fucking stupid, lack perspective, and drastically overestimate their own importance.
>>70342698
>Why does this board want so many people to suffer?
I don't, but neither do I believe in the delusion that it is possible to eliminate it.
>Whether advocating war or genocide
I don't, but it is likely inevitable at this point as a result of your delusional policies.
>keeping people in poverty
Giving a homeless man money or even letting him live in your house does not solve his real problems and in many cases makes them worse.
>denying rights and fair justice
I suspect we disagree fundamentally on what those mean.
>promoting environmental degradation
I support the sensible conservation of the environment and the minimisation of the environmental effects of human activity, but I don't support crippling our societies because of it.
>it's all based around making people's lives shittier.
To be truly kind, you often have to be cruel.
>Why do you want people who you've never met to be miserable?
I don't, but neither do I think I should be carrying the world on my shoulders or sticking my nose into the problems of everyone else on the planet.
>What is so wrong with people living peaceful, fulfilling lives and finding happiness in their own way?
Nothing. Why is it wrong for white people in white countries to do that?
>>70342698
if we wanted people to suffer we'd advocate communism and socialism
>>70343742
I can see you sweating from here.
>>70343296
>>70343589
I don't understand how this relates to bringing death and suffering upon other people. Of course you have to work and struggle for your freedom. You're not free to do what you want or go where you please unless you have the money to do so. I'm not advocating communism.
What I'm asking is why can't you have a happy, fulfilling life without forcibly denying it to others?
>>70344069
>What I'm asking is why can't you have a happy, fulfilling life without forcibly denying it to others?
Because those others often cause it to be denied to me. They can go live "happy fulfilling lives" somewhere else.
>>70342698
>Why do you want people who you've never met to be miserable?
We don't want them to be miserable. We want them fucking dead. Every single one.
Every single nigger, Jew, and Muslim needs to die.
It's the only way we will be free as the white race.
>>70343984
He's mostly right
A lot of you guys bury your head in the sand and behave exactly like the libcuck leftist tards you deride.
Just look at guaranteed basic income for example - one of the only solutions put forward to ease the transition to an automated economy and most people on /pol/ make baseless criticisms (like, "b-but it'll increase inflation!" - not understanding that isn't how basic income or inflation function) while simultaneously refusing to put forward any alternative solutions.
No shit governments are moving towards basic income when you dumbshits can't come up with better solutions for the very real employment and automation issues we're facing today.
Your "solution" is to either pretend it isn't happening, or accept that it's happening, but demand that everyone not in the upper quartile of the population live a starvation-level existence while production rises beyond what we've ever experienced in the entirety of human history.
This repeats in a number of other areas/topics on /pol/. People here can easily be as short-sighted as any braindead lefty scum.
>>70342698
Let's say you are in a boxing ring with an Arab, a Nigger, a Mexican, and a Jew, and the winners get the losers' wives. Everyone else is throwing punches and trying to kick each other's asses, but you just sit there, taking punches and talking about how good it is to be in such a diverse match.
White people are the only race that almost unanimously DOESNT wish genocide on all other races. We bring flowers to a worldwide knife fight, and expect it to go our way.
If another race takes control of the US, I promise you white men will not be treated equally or given scholarships as minorities.
>>70344442
Basic income will enrich the same people who have profited immensely from the beginning of time (landlords, farmers and merchants) while ensuring that the masses will be kept in a population status until their numbers are culled.
>>70343204
Well if peace isn't an option then we might as well play for our own team
I'm sick of being demonized without cause. I'm ready to give those bastards a reason to call me a white devil
>>70344442
>Just look at guaranteed basic income for example - one of the only solutions put forward to ease the transition to an automated economy and most people on /pol/ make baseless criticisms (like, "b-but it'll increase inflation!" - not understanding that isn't how basic income or inflation function) while simultaneously refusing to put forward any alternative solutions.
That is how inflation functions, but it's not the argument I would make. Mine would be that it removes the incentive to achieve if everyone can sit around a be a NEET without consequence.
As for solutions, you don't need to have a fully formed pre-packaged alternative to criticise something. Coming up with a workable solution is what debate is for.
>>70343426
Islam is a race for sub humans, by sub humans. Anyone accepting Islam is of an inferior class, and equal in value to Arabs.
Whether you want to believe it or not /pol/ is actually not one person.
I would say this is the most diverse place in terms of people and opinions anywhere on the Internet.
>>70342698
What are you talking about m8?
>>70342698
That's what Liberals want though.
>>70343204
We have things to be proud of.
>>70343670
I'm not a communist
>>70343880
>neither do I believe in the delusion that it is possible to eliminate it.
Of course you can't eliminate it, but I don't understand why people should risk their own lives just to bring suffering onto others.
>your delusional policies
Shit, what did I do?
>Giving a homeless man money
I'm not talking about the absence of charity, but the presence of economic exploitation. Most people here are totally fine with slavery, destruction of national industries, and funding civil wars in third world countries because it make life worse for other races, even though those practices motivate emigration to Europe and make life worse for everyone.
>denying rights and fair justice
Should black people have the right to vote?
Most people here would say no.
>To be truly kind, you often have to be cruel.
No you don't.
>neither do I think I should be carrying the world on my shoulders or sticking my nose into the problems of everyone else on the planet.
You don't have to. You aren't your nation, you're an individual.
>Why is it wrong for white people in white countries to do that?
It's not. You should be proud of your race and other people should be proud of theirs.
>>70344845
Not that guy.
The case most people who propose UBI as a solution make when it comes "incentive to achieve" is basically that it doesn't matter. The point where automation marginalizes the majority of the workforce is also the point at which most goods and many services become essentially free. The world won't need labor anymore. If you aren't smart enough to make something new, or skilled enough to maintain or improve the already very advanced computers and machinery or talented enough to entertain then you are essentially worthless. There is no level of contribution to society you can make that wouldn't be more efficiently done by a machine.
Thats the case they make anyway. A lot of them think this will lead to some kind of utopian "pursuit of the arts" kind of culture. I'm prone to believe we'll go full hedonism.
>>70343204
>What makes white nationalism any more justified than zionism?
Zionism is fine. They do what they've got to do. This doesn't mean that I need to be a doormat for what they do though.
>>70342860
Jew here. I want whites to defeat blacks and muslims. If blacks and muslims ran the U.S. do you know how much worse my life would be?
It's what we do
>>70345610
We'd just make our own Eye of Terror.
>>70342698
>in their own way
The push for silencing free speech and socially conditioning western societies to stigmatise people with dissenting opinions is why this can't happen.
>>70345562
>Most people here are totally fine with slavery, destruction of national industries, and funding civil wars in third world countries because it make life worse for other races, even though those practices motivate emigration to Europe and make life worse for everyone.
You are new here, I see.
Actually, most of the oldfags on /pol/ hate the fact that slavery existed. If it didn't, we wouldn't have to deal with niggers right now.
>>70345712
>Jew here. I want whites to defeat blacks and muslims
We're gonna come for you giant rats first.
>>70345562
>Most people here are totally fine with slavery
What?
>destruction of national industries
What?
>and funding civil wars
What?
>>70342698
We don't want people to suffer, we just mock at their mediocrity.
>>70344837
The problem is that too many people don't want peace in situations where it is an option.
>>70344686
If it was a boxing match I would try fuck them up one at a time. But on a planet with a shitload of people, I would prefer not to kill people who've done nothing to me or prevent them from creating a better life for themselves.
>>70345065
I know, that's why I'm surprised that so many of the people on here want so many others to suffer and die rather than find ways to benefit themselves and each other.
>>70345264
Those liberals are just as shitty.
>>70342698
Sounds like feminists to me.
Besides, we only wish bad things on objectively bad people.
Soros... for example.
>>70345562
>Most people here are totally fine with slavery, destruction of national industries, and funding civil wars in third world countries because it make life worse for other races,
What the fuck are you talking about? Do you even come here regularly?
>>70343984
BEADY
>>70345562
>I don't understand why people should risk their own lives just to bring suffering onto others.
What? Give an example.
>Shit, what did I do?
Form what you have said I assumed you were of a certain persuasion. You might not be.
>Most people here are totally fine with slavery, destruction of national industries, and funding civil wars in third world countries because it make life worse for other races, even though those practices motivate emigration to Europe and make life worse for everyone.
Who have you been talking to?
>Should black people have the right to vote?
>Most people here would say no.
It would be more fair to say that democracy in general is not in vogue here. Though you should keep in mind that each anon here is different and has their own opinions. We don't follow a unified ideology.
>No you don't [need to be cruel].
Yes, you do. That's how you teach people to stand on their own two feet.
>You don't have to. You aren't your nation, you're an individual.
An individual in a nation made up of individuals. Whether I like it or not, the state represents me. Particularly internationally, and especially a democratic one.
>It's not. You should be proud of your race and other people should be proud of theirs.
Just so long as I take no steps to act on this?
>>70345809
>implying that isn't the internet
>>70346006
I'm totally against legally enforced political correctness. You should say whatever you want. That freedom can be used to incite violence and hatred, but people will inevitably do so anyway if they really want to. Source: this board
>>70346084
Should have said modern slavery. I'm talking about Western businesses financing slave labor in third-world countries. Are you okay with it being outsourced?
>>70346279
Most of what I see about these issues goes along the lines of
>Good, fuck niggers, whatever makes them die, why should I care?
I know this doesn't include all of /pol/ and I'm generalizing the fuck out of everything, but this kind of shit is common enough to where it's not just a few edgelords.
>>70347540
>Good, fuck niggers, whatever makes them die, why should I care?
What are you on about? Is this some sort of emotional manipulation regarding the "Black lives matter" slogan?
>>70347540
>Should have said modern slavery. I'm talking about Western businesses financing slave labor in third-world countries. Are you okay with it being outsourced?
You really are new here. Nationalism is the polar opposite of globalism.
>>70342698
But environmental degradation will reduce suffering by bringing about human and animal extinction much sooner.
Environmentalists are evil.
>>70342698
Because white people are superior to everybody and their supremacy is vital for the success of the human race. I am not being ironic
>>70345365
>hueland
>white
>>70346878
>Give an example.
Day of the Rope, genocide of Arabs, ect
>Who have you been talking to?
People on /pol/, unfortunately
>It would be more fair to say that democracy in general is not in vogue here.
How could people ensure that their rights are protected if they do not hold power over their own governments? I'm not saying that democracy always works or that there's no better option, but authoritarian systems are no less susceptible to corruption or going against the interests of their people.
>That's how you teach people to stand on their own two feet.
Cruelty can also teach people to be afraid of standing on their two feet and cause them to lose hope in their ability to succeed by their own means.
>Whether I like it or not, the state represents me.
Not always. People with no influence over their governments can't be rightly judged by the actions of their governments.
>Just so long as I take no steps to act on this?
As long as those steps do not involve making others suffer because of their race.
>>70347657
No, I'm just trying to get people to explain why they hate so many other people.
>>70347986
The problem is that the interests of nationalism often motivate imperialism. Fuck them, we deserve it more because we're better.
See: >>70348369
I see a lot of support and justification of European colonialism during the nationalist phases of the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Why was globalization then better than globalization now?
>>70348650
>Day of the Rope, genocide of Arabs, ect
Right. That would be an act of self defence. An extreme one, sure, but still.
>People on /pol/, unfortunately
We apparently go to different /pol/s.
>How could people ensure that their rights are protected if they do not hold power over their own governments? I'm not saying that democracy always works or that there's no better option, but authoritarian systems are no less susceptible to corruption or going against the interests of their people.
My country was (and to an extent still is) a monarchy. We had and have plenty of rights and freedoms. Democracy is not a requirement for it and in fact often causes the erosion of them as people can be easily swayed by emotion.
>Cruelty can also teach people to be afraid of standing on their two feet and cause them to lose hope in their ability to succeed by their own means.
Not in my experience. If thrown into the deep end then those that can swim will swim. Those that didn't think they could swim will give it a damn good shot and maybe even succeed. That then leaves those that can't. Failure is a part of life.
[need to go for now. Will finish later if the thread is still up]
>>70343949
>authoritarian far leftism has a monopoly on suffering
ebin
>>70345264
>I know what people want don't listen to what they say they want cause I'm right
>>70349422
Thank you for being so based anon.
>>70342698
>What is so wrong with people living peaceful, fulfilling lives and finding happiness in their own way?
If chopping my head off my shoulders is their way of finding happiness then I fully support an permanent drone campaign against them.
If you keep to yourself and just rape your equally bigoted neighbour then that's fine by me.
>>70342698
Because half the world has been programmed with mental illness. To want things counter-productive to society and the world, because they believe in infantile dreams of Utopia.
To create Utopia, a lot of people have to die. And we are trying to prevent that.
You cannot judge because your morals are impaired.
>>70342698
>Why does this board want so many people to suffer?
Because the world deserves it
