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What ideology do you adhere to or closest to, and why?
Is National Libertarianism just closed-borders Libertarianism?
>>70271224
pretty sure it is just some shit OP pulled out his ass. You cant prioritize nationalism and liberty at the same time.
>>70270982
To be honest, brutally, libertarianism is idealistic as socialism.
More than 50% towards either libertarianism or totalitarianism is retarded (think political compass, either more than a 5 or less than a -5 is what I mean)
>>70271224
Its Libertarianism with strong boarders and national pride
National Socialism
>>70270982
Fixed
fascism, national socialism, conservatism, and traditionalism are all chill.
I honestly haven't look into libertarianism enough to decide how I feel on it.
>>70271717
This.
![hoppe[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yXue0ln.jpg "hoppe[1].jpg")
>>70271420
>>70271224
“First, with the establishment of a state and territorially defined state borders, “immigration” takes on an entirely new meaning. In a natural order, immigration is a person’s migration from one neighborhood-community into a different one (micro-migration). In contrast, under statist conditions immigration is immigration by “foreigners” from across state borders, and the decision whom to exclude or include, and under what conditions, rests not with a multitude of independent private property owners or neighborhoods of owners but with a single central (and centralizing) state-government as the ultimate sovereign of all domestic residents and their properties (macro-migration). If a domestic resident-owner invites a person and arranges for his access onto the resident-owner’s property but the government excludes this person from the state territory, it is a case of forced exclusion (a phenomenon that does not exist in a natural order). On the other hand, if the government admits a person while there is no domestic resident-owner who has invited this person onto his property, it is a case of forced integration (also nonexistent in a natural order, where all movement is invited).”
― Hans-Hermann Hoppe
>>70271784
Monarchy still has to follow an ideology
>>70270982
>constitutionalism in any tier
You should probably rename this American Constitutionalism, since different countries have different Constitutions
>>70271420
>You cant prioritize nationalism and liberty at the same time.
you're fucking retarded
>>70271824
so what? Say's right there
>If a domestic resident-owner invites a person and arranges for his access onto the resident-owner’s property but the government excludes this person from the state territory, it is a case of forced exclusion
hence why libertarians cannot be nationalist, if a farmer wants to import 1000 mexicans to pick his farm and live in shanties on his property you cant do shit about it.
Anything less than this is pure bullshit
>>70271897
Autocratic Tsarism
>>70271978
>you're fucking retarded
Great argument, much respect.
>>70271784
Wow ur dumb
>>70272125
only correct post itt
>>70271420
Nationalism requires liberty. Nations are organic, naturally arising things incompatible with a state that forces a certain way of thinking onto the entire populace -- try telling the Venetian nationalists in Italy that the Italian nationalist government forcing them to work for the benefit of non-Venetians has their best interests at heart.
And even if your idea of the nation and the government's idea of the nation are aligned, there is no guarantee it will remain so. While you may get the occasional Hitler who actually cares about his nation, you are more likely to get the Kim Jong Il who couldn't give a rat's ass about the nation as long as he remains in power. The authoritarian aspects remain, but the nationalism is gone. I don't even need to speak on democracies, where progressives can destroy nationalism through greater numbers.
Only when private property is protected can like-minded property owners form coexisting nationalist communities.
>>70272125
How is Libertarianism Globalist tier when it's isolationist by default
>>70271809
I really hate the open borders aspect of it. That needs to GTFO.
>>70270982
Paleo-Pragmatic Nationalist Socialist
>>70272097
The point is that in a society with a state, everyone should have a say on who comes into their country because of public ownership. Hoppe is an anarcho-capitalist, but he has gone on multiple times saying that if a society has a state, then it should not have free immigration, as it is forced integration.
>>70270982
National libertarianism ftw!
>>70272172
when were you under the impression i was arguing with you?
i'm telling you, you're retarded
>>70272307
You assume everyone is going magically turn into a nationalist as soon as the government is restricted. They won't, there will be large amounts of people who won't be nationalist and will actively be anti-national under their full rights as a citizen.
>>70272097
And if those Mexicans actually wander off, then the farmer is held liable. The farmer's plan would only be feasible if his neighbors -- particularly the road owners, food suppliers, water suppliers, and so on -- were also non-nationalist.
If you're the type of autistic person who gets offended by the actions of people living hundreds of miles away from you then I can't help you, but outside of that there would be plenty of nationalist communities for you to live in.
>>70272125
>National Libertarianism
>Conservatism
>globalist tier
that's fucking retarded
>>70272318
open borders you retard
>>70272668
As if throwing insults on an anonymous image board does anything but prove the opposite. Feel free to no respond and fuck off if you don't want to discuss anything.
>>70271809
>>70272416
Libertarians forget that the entire world isn't full of productive white people and that subhumans need to stay out
p.s. did you hear that Lauren Southern is a kike? Very sad news
>>70272881
I don't care about any of that
I just want to tell you you're retarded
which you are
you've actually reached the level of "fucking" in being retarded
you are absolutely fucking retarded
>>70272986
>1 dollar has been donated to your account
>>70272788
>particularly the road owners, food suppliers, water suppliers, and so on -- were also non-nationalist.
Democrats win elections all the time yet you nationalist are 90% of the country, but in reality they are more like 25%
>>70272753
Which only reaffirms my point that a nationalist state is doomed to failure. If the people do not support it, then the leader won't support it and the government will cease to be nationalist -- destroying all nationalist communities inside the borders. Under libertarianism, the nationalist communities would continue to exist.
You could argue that the nationalist government would run an effective propaganda campaign, convincing all the leftists and SJW's that they are wrong, but if you access to such persuasive marketing then it would work just as well in a private society.
You could argue that all the leftists and progressives would be deported, but again that is only politically feasible if the people agree to it in the first place in which case there would be enough people for private nationalist communities.
>>70273160
Could you rephrase that sentence into something coherent?
>>70273190
>nationalist state is doomed to failure.
That is not true many nationalist empires have conquered and lasted hundreds of years. What has never existed is a decentralised nationalist state.
people will not care for a weak state.
>>70272416
Some libertarians advocate open borders, but NALALT. Open borders isnt inherently libertarian idea. I'm a national libertarian
>>70273263
>time yet you think nationalist are 90%
forgot a word.
>>70271784
Ahh this guy gets it. Fuck off you libertarian degenerates.
>>70273020
>someone hurt my feelings on the internet baaawww
>>70273383
>That is not true many nationalist empires have conquered and lasted hundreds of years.
[citation needed], especially when very few governments, even empires, could be considered authoritarian by modern standards.
>inb4 Rome
I'm interested, what does /pol/ think about a Night-watchman state / minarchism?
>>70273263
Bix nood need mo money fo dem programs
>>70271784
>He had the honour of being born in the greatest country on Earth and a symbol of the victory of the people over the nobility.
>He still wants muh kingz n queenz.
>He probably watched the Royal Wedding.
Monarchists from republican countries make me mad.
put theocracy in god tier :^)
>>70273616
>spain
>england
>france
>prussia
>russia
the list is fucking huge.
>>70273452
>national libertarian
is that the same shit as classic liberal?
>>70273666
>666
Republicans confirmed evil, Fuck of Satan.
>>70273605
you don't have to cry
you're a very special boy you know
you have something the other boys don't
extra chromosomes
>>70272972
>White girl, rightist, libertarian. nationalist, pro-trump
Your reaction: Hoooraaaay
>She is also a jew
gas her!
Do you see here any logic? You accuse all jews of being anti white, but when a jew is pro white he/she is a 'shill'
>>70272475
If this ain't you I'm gonna be upset
>>70272856
>thinking libertarians want open borders to invite in all the leeches
can this meme end
Libertarianism is meme tier. This is a fact.
>>70273880
this never met a smart libertarian in my fucking life but at least they aren't as huge fags as liberals
>>70273799
>still posting
>being this russled
>>70273853
>its ok, if we end welfare they won't come here
you're horribly naive
libertarianism is based on the assumption that all people are inherently rational, just like socialism is based on the assumption that all people are inherently equal
but we're neither. we're highly inequal and highly irrational
>>70273471
In that case, if 25% of the U.S. belonged to a nationalist community that would be over five times the land area of modern Germany (within the top 25% of all states) with an equal population. I'm glad you agree that private nationalist communities are feasible in the U.S.
>>70273804
>when a jew is pro white
things that never happen
>>70272856
>conservatism
>not globalist
Pick one faggot
>>70270982
"national libertarianism"
already OP has proven himself to be a faggot
>>70274021
Michael Savage
>>70274013
And that nationalism as all for nothing when you don't have the power to actually preserve the nation.
>>70273699
So England, the capitalist giant with a multicultural empire is one of your examples of an authoritarian, nationalist state? That's the exact opposite, dude.
>facism
>>70273993
My ideal is national libertarianism but with strong right to work, anti corruption, and anti monopoly laws. If you move your manufacturing out of the country to save a few bux you'll be slapped with import taxes. Keep jobs in the country you're supposedly based in.
>>70273699
The British Empire wasn't particularly nationalist.
Back then, and to this day, nationalists were called little-Englanders and got bullied.
>>70274187
Clearly there's enough power if you honestly believe a nationalist government could be set up and maintained in a territory containing 75% liberals. Embarrassing.
>>70271224
>>70271420
Its basically "libertarianism/free markets when it suits me but protectionism/anti free market/big daddy guburmunt plz halp when it doesn't"
In other words Hypocrisy the most popular political ideology of all.
>>70274206
The navy would fucking kindnap people and press them into service. You have no clue about history. It was a multicultural empire but the lesser ethnicities served the interest of the dominant nation. It was the epitome of a national authoritarian state with the absolute rule of the monarc.
>>70272125
this except put decent tier into great tier and you're good
>>70272475
Why the fuck is she wearing a niqab?
>>70274338
There Is a difference between being actively liberal and just not giving a fuck. The nazies won with around 30% of the vote and never had a rebellion.
>>70273715
Nope, I dont believe in democracy and I'm an anarchist (ancap). Its the state that brings in mudshits, if there were no state only rich or very useful mudshits (like scientists if there are any) would go to europe. The absolute majority of poor mudshits couldnt afford a home or land in Europe cuz they are stupid and lazy. Liberals wouldnt help them cuz they only compassionate when others pay. People would be armed and if the rapefugee would go through their property uninvited they'd just shoot them on sight.
Night-watchman state with the only purpose of keeping mudshits out would satisfy me too, tho
>>70274245
I'm pretty much the same
a minimalist state that puts an emphasis on the protection of its people and their rights
that interferes minimally in all affairs be they economic or social, unless they threaten the sovereignty of the people
that attempts to maximize the individual liberty and personal responsibility of its citizens
if you make choices and you fuck up, there's no state there to bail you out
you got knocked up? use a fucking coathanger you retarded bitch
i'm so sick of the state constantly telling people what to do
>>70272307
>nations are incompatible with states that force a way of thinking on its people
I'll take Japan 1931-1945 and Italy 1922-1943 please
>>70270982
I'd say I'm traditionalist. I'm all for tolerance, but the left-liberals shills have hijacked the term to mean "get fucked by everyone who isn't your culture plus (insert-dominant-culture/race-here) guilt for ancestral mistakes".
Equal respect for all is not quite the same as the libtards make it out.
>>70270982
>Conservatism
>Putting it at the decent tier
Back to the shit tier it goes OP
>>70274021
He is not pro white, what does he have to do with it?
>>70274454
>national authoritarian state with the absolute rule of the monarc
lmao you're clearly a dumbass.
Following the civil war the monarchy very much took a back seat to parliament. Sure they were more involved than modern monarchies - but at the end of the day it was Disraeli that took the decisive lead when compared to Queen Victoria during the Pax Britannica.
>>70274074
but Conservatism is pseudo-Nationalism/Traditionalism. It's not globalist at all
>>70274245
>right to work, anti corruption, and anti monopoly laws
You lost me bro. Those aren't necessary in the free market. Most monopolies only exist because of government assistance and interference in the market, natural monopolies are rare and are actually good. If the competition so fierce that a monopoly erupts, that would mean very low prices and high quality for goods and services which is good for the consumer
>>70274570
The Nazis also lasted only 10 years before destroying themselves, and now Germany is a multi-culti authoritarian state. Perfect example of my point.
To claim they're stable because they never had a rebellion is like saying I'm healthy because I hung myself before anything could seriously injure me.
I'm a progressive that only comes here occasionally for some reason
>>70273100
one focking dolla
>>70274599
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night-watchman_state
Best kind of state possible in my opinion.
>>70274797
>Most monopolies only exist because of government assistance and interference in the market
if that is true, then an anti-monopoly law would be a law restricting the government from interfering in the market in such a way that would result in monopolization
think things through a bit anon
>>70274849
They didn't destroy them selves they got destroyed. Same shit could happen to your magic libertarian land.
National socialist here. Big government works as long as the people work too
>>70274387
roach speaks the truth
>>70274709
that was the point
>>70274600
If you read one fucking paragraph longer, you'll see that I admit that authoritarian regimes can last for several decades under a nationalist leader -- which you are unlikely to have after a few regime changes.
>>70274797
this
econ 101 senpai, OP (person you replied to) should take it
Libertarianism
>>70274964
>think things through a bit anon
Not my fault that anon made it sound like he supports anti-trust laws.
>>70274907
fuck dude, thats pretty aligned with what i've been thinking about lately
most helpful post on pol in a long time for me, thanks
>>70274985
>Germany didn't do nothing, the allies declared war on them for no reason!
Anon.
>>70274711
>Following the civil war the monarchy
And why exactly do you think I not using the post-civil war government as an example and not the pre-civil war.
What about anarcho-syndicalism?
>>70275018
>(person you replied to)
But, I am OP
>>70274998
But Lauren Sothern is! And that fact upset you. Why?
>ideology
spooky
>>70274797
>>70275018
but how do you combat the influence of advertisement on the consumer?
most of the free market relies on the assumption that the consumer is informed on all their options, but advertisement directly interferes with that. if it werent for advertising, apple would've been bankrupt a long time ago
that, or it would be forced to actually deliver on its promises
>>70275196
just meant the person you were replying to
thanks for being a free market bro OP
>>70270982
Nationalist libertarian here. Feels fucking great. Libertarianism that accepts that we need to focus on our countrymen because they're losing jobs to slave laborers overseas in China and India. Also, build wall.
>>70275096
Every country gets into wars, libertarian or not. It's a fact of being located on earth and as much as the type of government you have.
>>70274797
>fierce competition creates monopolies
???????????????
>>70275199
It's not like I hate her now or some shit. I just though she was a based Aryan woman when she's apparently not.
maybe she's only 1/4 Jewish, r-right?
>>70275322
read the thread. Your nonexistent political ideology has already been debunked.
>>70274331
>British Empire wasn't particularly nationalist
Yes they were
>>70274387
What is your ideology?
>>70273616
>"inb4 Rome"
Rome.
>>70275328
But you agree that being deliberately antagonistic as authoritarian regimes are liable to be makes them more likely to get destroyed.
>>70274387
>Its basically "libertarianism/free markets when it suits me but protectionism/anti free market/big daddy guburmunt plz halp when it doesn't"
OP here, but that's not really what I envisioned when I thought of national libertarianism. I'm very much against protectionism and big government. When I say national libertarianism I mean anti-open borders, with a culturally homogeneous society. I would never try and legislate culture. That being said, I really do hate our immigration policy, it's incredibly strict (because of the welfare state) even on compatible countries like Mexico, Canada, and European countries. I think it's naive and foolish to have a broad open borders policy.
>>70275346
Reread my post. Natural monopolies are very rare and are short lived, but the only way one could exist is if it out-competed everyone else by large margins, which is good for the consumer.
I don't even have a preference yet
Is there a unbiased list of them? A wiki or something?
>>70275077
Glad to help a fellow freedom lover. Minarchism is pretty based.
>>70270982
i agree with most of this, nice work OP. we should add it to the sticky.
libertarianism btfo in one webm
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1459905725438.webm
>>70275502
>deliberately antagonistic
it was the UK France and USA the declared war, not the other way around.
>>70275118
Because England prior to the civil war was not an empire. It was three different kingdoms in a personal union with trading companies largely managing the overseas colonies. With the rule of Charles I being one of the more tolerant of British history pre-unification - it's difficult to say there was anything nationalistic about it.
Not to mention it wasn't an absolute monarchy then either, with the balance of power between the crown and parliament constantly shifting.
National libertarianism is about like social libertarianism
Fucking lolbertarians trying to appropriate your own retarded ideology fucking kek
>>70275786
>AnCap = Libertarian
Everyone on here bashing liberitarianism has it confused with anarchism. Get some Locke for your ass
>>70275502
>he knows nothing about the history of world war 2
it all started with the fucking russians anon, the germans were literally being teamed on because
1) they were doing too well and the others got scared
2) they were allied to austria, who were expansionist dickbags
>>70270982
>>70275786
Hoppe and Rothbard are an-caps though
>>70275380
I did and it hasn't. You guys sperging out doesn't debunk anything. What The Don proposes is limited central government that is very strong in its capacities but it basically exists for national security and nothing else (and a tiny bit of protectionism which you can afford when your country is mega rich). Everything else is states' rights. This is a containment thread for the gays who can't handle Trump General. Just stopping by to make you aware.
>>70275840
ok yes it wasn't absolute monarchy all the time, but it was still an authoritarian state, which was my point in the first place.
>>70270982
>National Libertarianism
Is that anything like individualist collectivism?
>>70275933
>>70275984
ancaps are literally libtertarians
>>70270982
There is nothing wrong with the Ideology of a Meme.
>>70275668
Use your brain and think. Once you form ideas with your mind like a person, you can figure out what the word for them is.
>>70271420
>You cant prioritize nationalism and liberty at the same time
>being this nigger retarded
>not even once
>>70276141
you cant because you give liberty to those who wish to destroy the nation.
>>70271784
good, chart, Julius
>>70271420
>>70271224
Federalism?
>>70272097
>reads up to the point that matches his own
>literally misses the next sentence that is a counter point to that
Was learning how to read difficult as a child?
>>70275380
Its not only about her. You people say all jews are antiwhite, but when a jew is prowhite you say hes an infiltrator. Recently I saw a commenter on an altright site writing about him seeing a lot of jews saying theyre prowhite. He got an answer 'this is an infiltration operation!' You see how absurd it is? You say all jews are antiwhite but you dont acknowlege existence of prowhite jews and dismiss them as 'infiltrators'. I'm a half jew and a European Nationalist.
>Your nonexistent political ideology
There are several people here subscribing to it including me, it definitely exists.
>>70276028
The platform of the Libertarian Party specifically mandates a role for the State as the protector of national sovereignty and individual liberty. Anarchists do not believe in the State, therefore they cannot be Libertarians.
>>70276007
>Authoritarian state
England and Scotland were actually vastly more liberal than most of Europe. With probably only the Dutch and select German princes being more liberal.
Ireland however was ruthlessly authorian and in a sense nationalistic. However it was shit and irrelevant whilst liberal parliamentary England was one of the major powers of Europe. Which kind of defeats the point of authoritarian states being better.
>>70276307
>being this smug when you cant even comprehend the post or the original excerpt.
the next sentence does not stop the problem I brought up in my post.
>>70270982
Constitutionalism is the only truly American political ideology.
>>70276454
we are not argunt more authoritarian state vs less authoritarian state here. We are arguing libertarian vs authoritarian.
And you really have no argument to call england a libertarian state ever. The plane fact that conscription existed puts way out of the park for anything libertarian.
If you want to know what a liberitarian is, read the Declaration of Independence, or the declaration of the rights of man and the citizen. It's not the same as anarchy because in anarchy people will use their liberty to take away other's liberty.
A libertarian point of view is that a person should have all freedoms besides e freedom to harm another person.
>this is the correct opinion, if you disagree with it then you are wrong.
Top tier:
Nationalist Social Technodemocracy
why doesnt anyone address this post?
>>70275268
>>70270982
Post-Progressive Monarchy
>>70273804
She's hardly nationalistic, she's Jewish, fucked a nignog and is anti-racism.
Yeah, I don't really see how she isn't a shill.
>>70275268
You don't combat marketing influence. You improve it, you make yours better than your opponents. Find a way to broaden your appeal or focus on a niche you've got strength in.
>>70270982
Libertarian on most other Economic and Social Issues, but I support tightly controlled borders, eugenics and Imperialism.
Whatever that makes me.
>god tier is an oxymoron
Politics, everyone.
>>70276810
Yes Declaration of independance is great especially when contrasted to the actual behavior of the american government. Shows you what it really is, silly idealism used only for propaganda on fools.
>>70277053
but that heavily advantages the big businesses and disadvantages the small businesses, which leads to near-monopolization of markets, doesn't it?
I mean, how am I going to compete against Apple's marketing, if I started a tech company right now?
Even if my quality is better and my price is lower, which the consumer would rationally go for, they might still go for Apple because of their marketing and branding, which Apple invests millions in each year
>>70276751
Except here's the thing, Adam Smith wasn't born until after the Kingdom of England had already stopped existing. Trying to use it as a point against libertarianism is extremely anachronistic.
However by contemporary standards it was very liberal, sure by modern standards every state worldwide back then wasn't liberal at all but that's simply because the politics (or more importantly the technology) was different.
>The plane fact that conscription existed puts way out of the park for anything libertarian.
The plane fact that economics barely existed puts it out of the park for anything libertarian let alone libertarianism as a cohesive ideology. It's retarded to point out that a state isn't libertarian when libertarianism hasn't even been invented yet.
>>70277114
sounds like me. on the fence about eugenics though.
>>70277137
>The declaration of independance is just silly idealism
That's fucking edgy
>>70270982
Traditionalism and nationalism are the only acceptable ideologies.
>>70277272
Think up a tech that people want and don't have and make it.
Do you think anyone knew they needed an iPod before it was invented?
>>70276923
>fucked a nignog
sauce or gtfo
>>70274021
>>70277357
Why is that edgy when nothing from the declaration was even enacted. The author even owned slaves his entire life.
The further from god they are...
The more gay and idiotic they become!
>>70270982
Hard right wing fascism. You do what is best for the country and it's people.
>>70277137
It just got fucked up by democracy. Lock's "enlightened monarch" would be perfect, but humans aren't fucking perfect.
There needs to be strict constitutionalism with a constitution consisting of 1 law: everything is legal exert for harming another person.
>>70271224
also called post-libertarian and almost NRx
>>70277529
but now you're talking about entering a completely new market and simply dominating that from the start
I'm talking about competition on an already established market being skewed by the competitors themselves
>>70270982
National Socialism.
Feed the people, build them houses, get them in production, secure my race.
>>70272160
Not socialist?
Faggotry.
>>70277970
There is nothing morally wrong with such an idea, but you would only get a mediocre nation that never takes lead in the world.
>>70278293
>We must have socialism for my haplotype sharing comrades.
>>70271784
Oh look, it's the American monarchaboo again.
Consider jumping off of a highway bridge, laddy.
>>70278481
Are you fucking stupid?
Free market capitalism would take off causing the corporations to be badass and bring in a metric shit ton of money, thus making the nation a fucking superpower
>>70278507
yes that's it, you got it.
>>70278726
a government cant be a superpower if it has no power buddy.
>>70278915
I'm glad I understood you.
Because my understanding is your ideology is silly.
>>70278942
I see the issue with my reasoning. Everything would devolve to anarchy. So I guess you also need taxes and an actual government to enforce the one law and have a military (I guess now you have two laws cuz you need taxes)
>>70271784
Führer ultimate power, monarchy is a hereditary part of the party.
>>70279015
You don't get it.
>>70279211
Polycentric law. Basically without government people would jusymt have a network with contracts and agreements with eachother. Third party arbitrators the resolve the conflicts. If an arbitrator is shitty people can just switch to other aribtrators. Thats the gist of polycentric law
>>70273853
You're a fucking retard arm-chair political scientist.
ECONOMICS: Supply and Demand.
OPEN BORDERS ensures a flooding of the job market/work-force, which results in lower wages. And at the same time provides more consumers to purchase goods.
= PROFIT
Now you know why we fucking hate globalist shills who want open borders.
>>70270982
Christian -> pacifist -> anarchist
b e t t e r
t h a n
y o u
>>70279912
People misunderstand why libertarians want open borders. It seems counterintuitive at first. But looking at the longer run shows how everyone benefits in the long run. We long ago realized that price controls end up being bad for the economy. But for some reason people treat wages as a special thing that exists outside the rest of economic theory. In reality, an influx of people willing to work for 4 or 5 dollars an hour would make work start getting done that was not being done before. Think about it. If minimum wage goes to $15/hr what is going to happen to the jobs only worth $14.99 an hour? Of course they stop existing because no one is going take a loss on an employee. A lot of economic activity can be generated at the very bottom of economic leader. The current bottom of the legal ladder is 7.25 would admittedly take a hit in wages in the short run. But the price level throughout the economy would shift downward to compensate. But in the medium to long run the restructured bottom of the economy would bring all the poor up with it. Previously the less-than-$7.25 was cut out of the economy and had no choice but to cconsume more than they were able to produce. The is how you stop the cancer of poverty from draining the rest of the economy
I think I'm just a nationalist. I support nations for all people, Jews, Palestinians, Basque, you name it. I don't believe in globalist capitalism, believe in protectionism, but other than government shouldn't interfere in businesses and private lives. I'm also socially liberal.
So I guess I'm national libertarian?
>>70270982
Pre-Vatican II Catholic Monarchist (Traditionalist).
>>70282419
Do you just hate everything?
>>70280358
I wish I could filter you more than once.
>>70277798
Slavery wasn't addressed in the constitution
>>70283176
I live to serve.
>>70270982
>paleo-conservatism
Nationalist libertarian... With green tendencies.
Problems include prioritising local workers without stepping on free market principles and preserving the environment without economically disastrous ideas (like the carbon tax).
For instance, there is absolutely no reason to destroy the great barrier reef because there is no reason why we're entitled to sell India cheap coal because there is no reason they should be burning coal. They, instead, should sell all their gold and buy our uranium for premium price. We'll even install the plants for them, for a fee, and have plenty of great Australian engineers, but need to be paid average Australian engineering wages.
>>70282419
just fuck me up
>>70284545
So you're not a libertarian
>>70285028
No, just mature enough to understand the flaws in my ideology. I think this self critical behavior is why libertarianism is stronger than subvert Marxism.
>>70283177
wasn't talking about the constitution was I
>>70285273
>implying the free market can't handle environmental issues without gubbament
I mean that's ok.
