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Why doesn't NASA do anything cool anymore?
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No Soviet Union.
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>>70267639

Diversity quotas.
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>>70267764
This.
They have no more competition, there's no point anymore. Even a trip to mars would be boring at this point.
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The secrets can't be shared

and the old men who know the secrets are retired and dying.

so current NASA staff literally have to reverse engineer 60s-80s tech.

t. ivy league engineer phd
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>>70267812
Put enough white men in one area and they will make it habitable in a couple days.
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>>70267992
I never thought of that. They must have learned a lot in the Apollo program.
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>>70268037
>Put indians on a street
>Becomes a toilet
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>>70267764
This. Our space program is pretty much dead. But China has successfully copied our space technology so maybe in 10+ years NASA will have a competitor and its kick off the new Space Race.
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>>70267639
Because there's nothing out there for humanity except death. We had fun going to the moon and shooting billions of dollars at the red planet. But in the end it all bullshit.
We should focus on other things
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>>70267992
>Gotta reverse engineer dat Newton's law of universal gravitation
Wew.
Weeeeeeeew.
No wonder China is going to colonize Mars first.
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>>70268066
it fucking sucks.

its a waste of time but shit like aerodynamic acceleration management and chemical reaction best practices are top national security.

Look up what Scott Kelly has had to do to prepare for a year in space.

I feel bad for the SpaceX people, they have a lot of money but none of the most necessary knowledge.
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>>70267639
Because they never did to begin with
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>>70268302
the ching chang chongs will try.

and they'll die trying.

and it won't matter cause there's a billion more of them.
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>>70267992

>The secrets can't be shared

That niggers are forcibly replacing whites?
What an open secret that is.

> literally have to reverse engineer 60s-80s tech.

Bunch of horseshit, putting blueprints into secure archives doesn't mean the technology is lost if some capable engineer sees it in the future.

>>70268410


The chinese beat the Americans to the moon anyway, if you took each one of them and stacked them on top of eachother.
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>>70267639

Because space is useless and NASA is hemorrhaging money.
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>>70267639
because their best engineer died
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>>70268503
its not horseshit. colleagues who currently work at nasa have the skills to produce amazing satellites and robots, but shuttle and rockets knowledge sources are antiquated or just classified.
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>>70268556
That's their job though. We throw money at them until they make something cool.

They haven't done anything "cool" since Apollo, unless you count the mars /r9/bots.
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>>70267639
because it's fucking expensive
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>>70267992
This is pretty much true. When they were designing the heat shield for the new Orion spacecraft they literally disassembled one of the original Apollo heat shields to see how it was designed and assembled. It's surprising to me that they didn't have detailed records of this already, but I guess they figured at the time that technology would always progress and that there was no need to keep records of old designs. It was in a Smithsonian Air &Space article several years ago.
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>>70268748
>because it's fucking expensive
Compared to what?!
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>>70267639
Which party is pro NASA?
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>>70268712
got this shit in November.

fucking holy shit. Pluto.
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>>70268748
What is the NASA budget? Like <1% GDP?
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>>70268905
Oh ya forgot about Pluto. Still would be nice to have a station on the surface rather than a few pictures.
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>>70267812
Why aren't the astronaut's faces bloated or exploding in pic related?
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>>70268994
White privilege
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>>70268836
Clinton currently will fund it well.
Sanders will defund it.
Trump will make it great again.
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>>70268994
Because they are god's chosen people.
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>>70268698

>but shuttle and rockets knowledge sources are antiquated or just classified.

I doubt all of this.

Rocket technology hasn't really changed much in decades.

Looking at a blueprint of any of the most successful rocket motors will quickly reveal its secrets to you.

If private companies are able to construct rocket motors that don't experience catastrophic failure and manage to put a payload in orbit there really isn't much secret going on here.

>>70268994

>detecting a nigger too stupid to understand art
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>>70267639

No funding
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>>70269065
White privilege extends to space.Fucking galactic patriarchy.
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>>70269093
Too stupid to understand science?
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>>70268748
>because it's fucking expensive

Compared to the $1.7 Trillion we have blown fucking up the middle east, NASA's budget is peanuts. And that's just up front costs, it's expected to exceed $5 Trillion. We easily could have walked on Mars already, and have a permanent moon base.
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>>70269376

Did it not cross your mind at any point in the last few minutes that maybe, just possibly, it was never chronologically possible for all the Apollo crew members to be on the moon at the same time?

Fucking d&c shill gtfo this thread and stop sliding the topic.
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>>70267639
Assholes like Bernie Sanders continually vote to not give it the funding it wants.

Anyway, they are planning to go to Mars:

http://www.nasa.gov/content/j2m-getting-to-mars-sls-and-orion

But we all know at some point their funding will be cut ( mo' money fo' dem programs! ) and fucking nothing will happen instead of the USA being awesome and landing the first person on Mars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goh2x_G0ct4
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>>70269093
It took decades to master the shuttle.

Believe it or not, some of those blueprints are not accessible by current NASA engineers.
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>Why doesn't NASA do anything cool anymore?

Like fake shit on a regular basis?
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>>70267992

this is fucking sad.
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>>70267639
Because republicans take away science funding.
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>>70268698
Y'all fuckers need more syrian rocket engineers is all.
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>>70269545
They were on the moon and it is one of the most well documented scientific events ever.
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/07/07/nasas_muslim_outreach_106214.html

They are focusing on sucking off Muslims instead of math and space.
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>>70269554
We went to the moon to get away from niggers.
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>>70268836
None of them.
It really sucks.
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>>70269532
with 1.7 trillion, we could have multiple large space stations, a moon base, and a small city on Mars, possibly even deep space stations in the asteroid belt or Jovian systems
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>>70269545
>Did it not cross your mind at any point in the last few minutes that maybe, just possibly, it was never chronologically possible for all the Apollo crew members to be on the moon at the same time?
Of course not possible but, they're human and would all die if exposed to the vacuum of space.I know it takes artistic liberties.
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>>70269778
Hey Germany, you got us to the moon the first time want to help us get to mars?
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>>70267639
Because Werner Von Braun, Stanley Kubrick, and Carl Sagan is kill.
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>>70269786

>it was never chronologically possible for all the Apollo crew members to be on the moon at the same time?

Forgot to read the last half of my sentence by any chance?

Sure they were up there, but not all of them at the same time.

>>70269568

>some of those blueprints are not accessible by current NASA engineers.

Security clearance & that sorts of shit.

Doesn't mean it suddenly becomes impossible to interpret/understand the documents in the future. I assume NASA has a good ethic of documenting what they do, meaning there is lots of literature concerning their rocket designs and so on, things learnt from test flights and such.
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>>70267639
tl;dr

No budget
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>>70269932
Yeah, it's a staggering amount of money, not to mention all the wasted lives. I hate to say it, but Bin Laden won. He may be rotting at the bottom of the Arabian Sea, but that guy fucked us good.
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>>70269974
Like i said, send a letter to Mama Merkel, she will gladly send some syrian rocket engineers your way. Wernher von Braun ain't got shit on them.
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>>70267639

because the Old world order is crumbling.
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>>70268830
Feeding Tyrone and chamiqua
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>>70270361
Maybe we can go to WW3 with you guys, beat you and take all your rocket engineers again. We are getting a bit low.
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>>70270216
>Doesn't mean it suddenly becomes impossible to interpret/understand the documents in the future. I assume NASA has a good ethic of documenting what they do, meaning there is lots of literature concerning their rocket designs and so on, things learnt from test flights and such.

It isn't impossible to interpret or understand the documents. NASA documented everything very well. None of the current engineers building robots, satellites, drone aircraft etc. are qualified to access projects that are of high national priority. It sucks so they are developing robots instead using their own brains, and that is a testament to how ungodly smart these people are.

>Sure they were up there, but not all of them at the same time.

ok. But you're not well informed if you think we didn't go to the moon.
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>>70270216
>Security clearance & that sorts of shit.

No not that just good old digital obsolescence.

Programs/Data/plans are saved in a format that nobody knows anymore there and the people who know are either in their 80s+ or dead.
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sure smells like /x/ in here
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>>70270541

>But you're not well informed if you think we didn't go to the moon.

Are you some sort of absolutely temporally retarded shill?

6 Apollo crews went to the moon. Last I checked it was at 6 different occasions?

Or did time quickly stop back in 1970 for a few years to neatly pack all 6 Apollo missions up there at once.

>>70270736

Doubt it, all of this stuff is kept in some US archive bunker under a few hundred meters of rock and soil in buttfuck rocky mountains in paper copy.

Fuck's sake.

>It sucks so they are developing robots instead using their own brains

Pretty sure developing robots is still a cognitively intense task.

>are qualified to access projects that are of high national priority.

This doesn't make the information obscure/lost though.
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>>70270989
>Last I checked it was at 6 different occasions or did time quickly stop back in 1970 for a few years to neatly pack all 6 Apollo missions up there at once

http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/lunar/apollo.html

>Doubt it, all of this stuff is kept in some US archive bunker under a few hundred meters of rock and soil in buttfuck rocky mountains in paper copy.

nope. Most of it is in doctors and engineers brains or lost for time.
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>>70271348

Explain to me what I have told you in three separate posts now.

Repeat back to me what you understood of what I said about the moon landings.

I want to know why you fail to understand that it is impossible to have all 6 Apollo crews on the moon concurrently, simultaneously, at the same time.

>nope. Most of it is in doctors and engineers brains or lost for time.

This is too unlike the Americans. Its all written somewhere, and even if it is lost, nothing super secret was lost because clearly private companies are able to compete here.
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>>70270989
Please stop taking the bait about that fucking picture.
No one even knows what this conversation is about anymore.
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>>70267639

Because Obama couldn't find enough money for Constellation, and the salvaged SLS/Orion projects are still being built and won't be doing missions until 2020. Because Congress was being sticky with money NASA got shafted and all their plans got pushed back five years.

That said, we'll be doing moon missions by 2025. NASA just needs to build a lander.
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http://www.jwst.nasa.gov/

The James Webb Space Telescope is cool as fuck. It's basically Hubble 2.0 but it will be used to gather infared light rather than visible light, so we're going to be able to see further back into the history of our universe than ever before.

It may not be as cool as landing on the Moon or going to Mars but the Hubble telescope produced some spectacular images of deep space and this will be like a supercharged Hubble. Launching in only 2 years as well.
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>>70267812

"Diversity" has nothing to do with it. NASA's problem is that they were totally unprepared for the end of the STS (shuttle) program. Chalk it up to bureaucrats getting too comfortable in the mid 00s, I guess.

>>70267992
>>70268066

It's not as bad as you think. NASA has a fuckload of documentation on Apollo, including the lander trainer craft. The Apollo Guidance Computer software is open source and anyone can make a clone of it with an ardunio chip.

The main problem is modernization. Orion and SLS need to be Apollo and Saturn V but bigger and using modern computer chips. This is a fickle thing to get right and it's why they can't just make Apollo 2.
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>>70268302
>>70268503

>china

They have their own skylab but that's it. Given how their economy is totally falling apart, their space aspirations are probably not going to form. Roscosmos is already getting BTFO as well due to falling tax revenues due to the oil crash.
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>>70271559

Believe me I know this guy is a shill.

Acting this willfully retarded really takes some cognitive power.

I just want to see how far he will push his autism. Maybe he'll step back in line after realizing that he cannot properly read instructions anymore out of subconscious conflict with inner shilling.

>>70271855

>NASA's problem is that they were totally unprepared for the end of the STS (shuttle) program.

NASA's problem is the absolute lack of money to do anything. The ISS is understaffed and many other projects are practically shelved indefinitely.
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>>70271375
aw shit.. only 5% gets you to the moon..

>meanwhile 5% doesn't win you any wars
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>>70271987
America can go to the moon with 5% effort.
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>>70271538
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_missions_to_the_Moon

they weren't on the moon concurrently, simultaneously, at the same time.
Apollo 11: landed at 20:17 UTC on 20 July 1969
Apollo 12: 14 November 1969
Apollo 13: FUCK YEAH TOM HANKS
Apollo 14: 31 January 1971
Apollo 15: 26 July 1971
Apollo 16: 16 April 1972
Apollo 17: 7 December 1972
>clearly private companies are able to compete here.

its no competition really.
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>>70271945

>NASA's problem is the absolute lack of money to do anything. The ISS is understaffed and many other projects are practically shelved indefinitely.

The ISS is only understaffed because the supply craft it was designed to use (the shuttle) has been retired. Russian supply capsules can only carry so much.

As for "practically shelved indefinitely", you're referring to Constellation. However, Constellation more or less lives on but in smaller chunks. The two most important, Orion and SLS, will be functional in 3-4ish years. After that all NASA needs to do is build a lander (Altair) to do moon missions (including a moon base).

Again, it all comes back to the shuttle's retirement. NASA wasn't ready for it. But things are still moving along.
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>>70272246

>Russian supply capsules can only carry so much.

So launch them twice as often.

The R7 rocket isn't really that complex to put together, nor is the Soyuz for that matter.

With space programs, the idea of "throwing more money at it" actually works in good proportion.

>Constellation more or less lives on but in smaller chunks.

I remember reading a long time ago that we would be seeing a fully fledged program with SLS and Constellation by 2020. How time changes.

>>70272116

Now go and review your previous posts where you unambiguously insisted that all 6 crews were on the moon simultaneously.
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>>70267639
Hey man a macro-miniaturized little car that drives around and doesn't do much on Mars is amazing isn't it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3oHmVhviO8
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>>70272590
>tfw
>Never going to check into a space hotel room.
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>>70271603
JWST is a perfect example, it's cool as fuck and yet came damn near to being cancelled despite being nearly complete.

Also NASA doesn't do anything cool cause 1) they don't have enough money due to whiny babbies crying about welfare and other assorted faggotry and 2) because of the huge retarded bureaucracy and pork barrel bullshit that goes on.
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>>70272519
>Now go and review your previous posts where you unambiguously insisted that all 6 crews were on the moon simultaneously.

They were on the moon and it is one of the most well documented scientific events ever.

that's my only argument. Never did I say at the same time. I in fact said
>You did, here:

Are you some sort of absolutely temporally retarded shill?

6 Apollo crews went to the moon. Last I checked it was at 6 different occasions?

Or did time quickly stop back in 1970 for a few years to neatly pack all 6 Apollo missions up there at once.

I assume we are in agreement that we went to the moon six times.
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>none of this is technically infeasable but we use the space program as a welfare and jobs program for the defense industry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wJQ5UrAsIY
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>>70272519

>So launch them twice as often.

That costs money and this is a thing Russia doesn't have at the moment. Meanwhile the ESA has no crew capsules. Throwing money at it only works if you actually have money. To that end the only country doing that is the US.

>I remember reading a long time ago that we would be seeing a fully fledged program with SLS and Constellation by 2020. How time changes.

You remembered wrong, SLS came AFTER Constellation. Constellation was to have moon missions by 2020 but instead NASA got their budget cut in 2011 since they were behind schedule and Congress was fickle with money. So instead they put everything into Orion and SLS development, planned to have moon missions by 2025. Overall there's only a 5-year delay. Thus far SLS and Orion development has gone smoothly. Once that is done NASA can then focus on going back to the moon.
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>>70272769
>tfw never meet another shitposter IRL in the space bar
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>>70272833
Shut up, jesus.
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>>70267812
We can't actually send people into space but diversity is more important, we can just pretend
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>>70272833

hm.

>>70272917

>SLS came AFTER Constellation.

Back or forth, whatever.

>Throwing money at it only works if you actually have money.

Correct.

But to say that the Russians aren't capable of supplying the ISS is a bit far fetched.

>Once that is done NASA can then focus on going back to the moon.

Do you think they will send a nigger up there?
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>>70267639

Orion is cool as fuck
SLS is like a giant dick, fuck, americans should be proud and not whine about shit, when they have this rocket
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>imblying this wasn't cool as fug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHwUrxzrvtg


Also SLS in 2018 and another Mars rover in 2020.
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>>70267639
We got banned from the moon by the ayy lmaos that run shit up there
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>>70273176

>But to say that the Russians aren't capable of supplying the ISS is a bit far fetched.

I didn't, I only said that they aren't capable of supplying the ISS at the same level the space shuttle could. The Soyuz capsule carries 3 people, the Shuttle 7. The Shuttle could also carry much more supplies, including entire ISS components. Not having the Shuttle is why the ISS is understaffed.

>Do you think they will send a nigger up there?

who cares? All they care about is getting to the moon.
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>>70272828
What do you mean nothing cool? Mission to asteroid is going to be cool, robot mission to Europa, new Mars rover in 2020
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>>70273352

The SLS is much fancier, if only because NASA is going to do what Von Braun wanted and make a bigger Saturn V. Orion exists as a modular command vehicle for LEO, lunar and mars missions.
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>>70273429

> including entire ISS components.

This is the only definitive advantage the Space Shuttle has over the Soyuz capsules.

Food supplies and some such shit can be sent up with multiple launches in short time frames using any resupply vehicle. The problem is money first and foremost, not the retirement of the space shuttle.
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No military opponent to dickwave at.

Literally the only thing the USA does well is war and the space program was just an extension of BMD and ICBM funding.
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>>70273597
yes and you fat fucks still not satisfied with that. You should be happy. This ENORMOUS rocket, you can't even imagine. You can do so much shit with it and with today video camera technology we will see all steps on asteroids, Moon and Martian moons.
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>>70273597
I like how you use the word 'exists' instead of 'planned but not yet fully spec'd.'

We got a NASA shill here people.
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>>70273618

The problem is that the Shuttle can carry more supplies than other vehicles. Which is a problem when each additional person increases the "base" level of supplies required.

Money isn't the problem because even when Roscosmos was still rolling in oil money they didn't build the Buran or a Soyuz replacement. Russia had a full decade to design and build a better spacecraft and didn't. Same for the ESA, which is still not planning on crewed missions ever.
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>>70267764
First reply does it again.
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>>70273833

SLS is fully speced. Even began testing back in 2014:

http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/august/nasa-completes-key-review-of-world-s-most-powerful-rocket-in-support-of-journey-to

With the first one (including it's assembly line) being build right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTeabUg6KdA

By "plan" I mean that it still has to go through testing before it's given missions. NASA isn't immune to "risk management" policies and the FAA have to greenlight them.
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>>70273960

Are you willfully looking past the argument?

>well I can drive 1 big truck with 500 tons worth of goods

or

>how about I take 5 trucks with 100 tons worth of goods

At the end of the day, all 500 tons arrived at the destination. The Space Shuttle's definitive advantage was cargo volume for very large parts needing transport. Foodstuffs and science experiments can be formatted to fit smaller launch vehicles, just requiring more frequent launches.
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>>70267992
I thought we were living in the 21st Century, not the 41st Millennium.
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>>70269932
>with 1.7 trillion, we could have multiple large space stations, a moon base, and a small city on Mars,

No.
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>>70268556
NASA's one of the only government agencies that actually provides a return on our investment.
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Doesn't receive enough funding
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>>70274342
It would only cost roughly $50billion to create an orbital launch loop on Earth so I don't think he is too far off the mark.
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>>70273960
> Roscosmos was still rolling in oil money

Roscosmos wasnt getting money because Roscosmos don't produce oil. And the leadership was corrupt on 2000-2010
But now it has designed the new spacecraft Federatsya and it will fly un-manned 2021, with crew 2023
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>>70267992
This. They must of had some type of super genius that became transgender and killed himself, taking all secrets with Xim.
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>>70269568
Hey, you know what? That sounds like serious bullshit. Nobody would spend gargantuan sums and then lock the blueprints away. They don't have any blueprints. They took our cash and ran. Deal with it, faggot.

>We forgot how do it, an' shit
>Damn Apollo 11 tapes got erased, son a bitch
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>>70273352
We should be proud, but the powers that be don't want a proud America. They want us to be a shamed nation like Germany. Except for us they don't have a Hitler card to play, so they're trying to make do with making us feel sorry with things like climate alarmism, white mass shooter violence false flags, and "you're a fucking white male."
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>>70269568

The Space Shuttle is a product of Boeing and is owned by them. They have the blueprints, as they were the ones who purchased Rockwell Aerospace.
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>>70274199
>Even began testing back in 2014
It ain't a space ship 'till it goes into space so quit your shilling.
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>>70267639
Because Lyin' Ted cut their budget.
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>>70269728
Black meme science man says otherwise
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>>70268611
ahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>70274982
The Shuttle airframes were built by Rockwell, they are probably still in possession of the original blueprints. But like all major space programs, dozens of companies large and small were involved. NASA themselves probably do not posses every piece of data concerning the Shuttle.
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>>70269851
Here's your answer, OP.

The Muslim in Chief axed them.
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>>70267992
Does anyone think they found something(not necessarily living thing) that makes space travel useless with our current technology?
What do you think they're hiding from us about space?
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>>70275216
Pretty much this TBQH. >sadfrog.jpg
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>>70267639
http://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/behemoth-black-hole-found-in-an-unlikely-place/

Found this awesome looking black hole yesterday. Pretty badass.
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>>70267639
Uncle Sam decided spics and niggers were more important so all that money went to welfare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtBy_ppG4hY
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>>70277120

Are you under the impression that the thing you linked is a picture of an actual black hole?
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>>70269665
This post ruined differentials for me.
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>>70267639
>Why doesn't NASA do anything cool anymore?

They've been warning everyone about catastrophic climate change but nearly everyone believes in an apocalyptic cult religion which has blunted the message

inb4 People are just too stupid to actually deserve science and technology unfortunately
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>>70274350
"One thing's true about the space program... your tax dollar WILL go further."
-Werner von Braun
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>Why doesn't NASA do anything cool anymore?

America did every possible cool thing there was left to do. there is nothing left to achieve anymore
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>>70278041
there's still the space elevator
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>>70267639

part of the problem is they don't have the stuff ready yet to do the cool shit they plan to do in the future. shuttle program got cancelled and the replacement, Orion, isn't out of development stage yet. on current schedule, cool manned stuff won't be happening until the late 2020's.
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>>70279532
Yep, this.

Also you can count on most of that shit being late and over-budget these days too.

I'm more confident in the private space companies personally. They've done in just years what it took NASA and the Russians and Chinese and everybody else decades.

Daily reminder that most promising private space firms are American.
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>>70279749

I have enjoyed SpaceX's development so far. Even if a lot of their stuff blows up.
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>>70279929
>Even if
You mean ESPECIALLY if right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9EnUQltR9A

Successes are great but we live in a rare age, where you can watch some of the most advanced artifacts mankind ever created explode with what until relatively recently would have been unimaginable fury.
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>>70274294
I see you anon. Kek
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>>70267639
The Vice President is in charge of NASA and the VP answers to King Nigger Obogo. King Nigger Obogo wants to gibs to his nigger pals.
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>>70267639
no political gains from it.
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>>70267639

We had to stop...it was making the other races look bad.
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>>70268836

Republicans are "anti-science" but love big look at how great USA is shit like the moon landing.

Liberals usually whine about all the money that could have fed niggers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goh2x_G0ct4
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>>70283612
>Republicans are "anti-science"
No they're not that's just a meme.

Some Republicans are anti- some "science" but who gives a fuck.

Here's a typical and prominent Democrat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-HCYgZo_og
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>>70268994
Exploding heads in space is a myth.
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NASA GRC contractor here. The biggest problem with NASA is it's inability to take risks. In the 60's NASA had strong internal leadership and had no problem firing shit employees. I can't tell you how many times I have fixed problems caused by a civil servants that a fresh out would notice. I'm a EE by the way....
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>>70285728
SMAW or ACE site? I might have worked with you during EOE97
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>>70267639

Earth Rise Hoax explained under 4 min Moon Flat Earth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4zTR9ubkD4&nohtml5=False
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>>70285728
>GRC
by that do you mean Glenn Research Center?
i'm studying aerospace, how do you get into the industry?
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>>70267639
NASA's biggest obstacle right now isn't funding or a lack of talent... it has plenty of both. It's problem is bureaucracy.

Every new Executive administration changes NASA's plans and research priorities. Every year Congress passes stupid mandates about how money has to be spent and where NASA is allowed to spend it.

Just look at what happened with the Constellation Program over the last decade and a half. (see pic for tl;dr version).
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>>70286875
Look for internships. I had prior microwave test equipment knowledge from a 6 year enlistment in the AF, which helped a lot.
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>>70287581
>NASA's biggest obstacle right now isn't funding or a lack of talent... it has plenty of both. It's problem is bureaucracy.

and the lack of space, I mean it's pretty huge of an obstacle
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There's an extremely advanced robot crusing around mars taking pictures. That's pretty cool.

Maybe in the future when we have androids and Mars colonies these Mars rovers will be like the pilgrims of the Martian robots.
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>>70267639
Our fucking government is shit
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>>70288362
What exactly is that image trying to imply?

Also NASA is supposed to work heavily in aeronautics too, not just space. It's in the title.
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>>70288362
Do you know anything about orbital mechanics?
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>>70287581
Moon base would have been the way to go. Rescue feasible and a launch from the moon to Mars would use far less fuel. Joint partnership (like with ISS) would have made it economy feasible. If a STEM background was mandatory for public office we would have colonized our entire solar system by now.
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>>70288233
I've interned in the semiconductor and sensor industry but, you have AF experience; that gives you a huge edge. I'm applying rampantly to aerospace stuff but its really hard lol
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Soviets and Americans were going to work together, as Soviets had the rockets America needed and America had the computers that Soviets needed. However, after JFK's assassination, the then Soviet president didn't like the look of Johnson, so it ended up being a race. Imagine what we would have accomplished
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>>70289412
it saddens me to think about it,
just think about the level of scientific advancement we could achieve
if we didn't have politics getting in the way
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>>70289412
>you will never live in the alternate timeline where the Soviet Union didn't abandon its lunar program after Apollo 11
>where the Soviet's second lunar mission would have been launched a matter of days before the ill-fated Apollo 13 mission
>where the Soviet lunar sortie abandoned its mission to rendezvous with Apollo 13 in lunar orbit and stage a daring rescue and return mission
>where the successful return of both crews lead to a new era of cooperation between the US and USSR, ultimately leading to the expansion of the human race into deep space

I mean... why even go on living at this point?
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>>70267639
because your fucking government doesn't fund them to

no fucking rocket science is it

(lol)
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>>70290894
>because your fucking government doesn't fund them to
NASA gets more funding than every other space agency in the world... put together.

Funding isn't the problem - bureaucracy is.

~$19 billion only becomes a small amount of money when the government starts forcing you to pay defense contractors $50,000 for a wrench and $500,000 for a bulkhead
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>>70289412
Holy shit I want these posters
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>>70267639
Too hard to fake anything believable again
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pz_IaRVBh0
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u 4got about poland
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because the cold war ended cleetus.
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