ITT /pol defines marxism, in one sentence
>>70251860
GIBSMEDAT
>>70251860
Marxism is the political and economic theories of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, later developed by their followers to form the basis for the theory and practice of communism.
>>70251860
Marxism according to Marx or according to people calling themselves marxists?
>>70251860
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.
OP is a faggot.
>>70251860
Failure.
Marxism is what racists call anything they don't like.
www.reddit.com
Anything I don't like.
>>70251860
Free time
>>70251860
Marxism is Communism, the very definition of failure.
>>70251860
Marxism is the radical notion that workers are people.
>>70251922
GIBSMEWAGEIWORKEDFOR*
There are a lot of things we in the first world take for granted that were due to the labour movement centuries ago. Back then I think it was justified.
>>70251860
Everything that has ever worked anywhere is wrong, thus we must steal shit.
>>70252099
Employers are withholding your wages?
>>70252094
>workers
>>70251860
Good basic idea for worker's rights, highjacked by twats ever since.
Good diagnosis, shit cure.
I expected it to be garbage, but it turned out to be straight trash.
Was disproved when Predictions under historical materialism didn't come true.
>>70251860
Guilt, fear, and moral degeneracy spun into unrealistic utopian daydreams, perpetuated by circular reasoning and tribal mentality.
>>70252170
Unfair wages and also extremely poor working conditions. We have the 1800's labour movements to thank for what they fought. Ever heard of the Industrial Revolution?
>>70251860
It's ok that I'm lazy because I'll make you pay for stuff I want
>>70251860
Judaism
>>70251922
fpbp
>>70251860
The will to regress
>>70252099
Marxists didn't have a monopoly on labor movement as much as they love to claim all credit for its accomplishments as a whole today. It was just one of many creeds that sprung up during the growing pains of the Industrial Revolution, fittingly enough coming from assholes that didn't actually work for a living. So is it really that surprising that it has been a colossal failure every goddamn time it's been tried?
>>70251860
Dictionary definition: "A stateless, classless system of anarchy where there is no private property and everyone is equal".
What marxism actually is: "The government owns your ass and you better shut up, sit the fuck down, and get comfortable because there isn't shit you can or will do about it".
marxism is an outright denial of reality
Economic marxists leads to mass starvation/collapse of economics
Cultural marxism, leads to the death of nations/civilizations
"Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it, and hell where they already have it."
>>70251860
People destroying themselves with a fake religion, while looking down on religion.
>>70253101
ebin over simplification
>>70253114
>things I don't like are denial of reality*
*my special, objective kind of reality
>>70253669
>summarize this complex system in one sentence
>OVERSIMPLIFICATION!!!!11!!1!
nigger
>>70253853
marxists do not believe in objective reality
this is like a key part of their ideology
>>70252871
Yeah, European liberals also fought for civil liberties. As opposed to the conservatives who wished to keep the status quo, i.e. exploit and not give a shit about its poorest and marginalized citizens. So glad we've evolved since.
>>70251860
its what happens when a cucked nation inherits a great nation by mistake.
Death
>>70251860
comfy gulag
>>70251860
Judaism for Gentiles.
Meme used as a replacement for religious values for libcucks.
>>70251860
A theory that gives solace to the have-nots so they feel justified in not working to become one of the haves
Right intentions, but it will never work.
>>70253348
that doesn't make any sense, bro
>>70252032
Racism is what liberals call anything they don't like.
Averaging of incomes, punishment of success, leading to rich flight and mass murder, also known as Marxism, has failed in every iteration.
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>>70251990
>>70252032
>>70252237
Commie faggots, please go.
"Hurr durr, it's really great but hasn't actually been tried. It was adopted and corrupted by not true Marxists..."
GTFO
>>70251860
Jew trick to take over a country's bureaucracy.
>>70255798
>Marxism
>not a working class ideology
Distortion of socialism into materialist Jewery.
>>70256535
>anything i disagree with is le communism
>le ebin never been tried meme
>LE NOO TROO SGOTSMANN XDDDDDD
>>70256535
What does my comment of it being a generally good idea that has been highjacked by modern day twats have to do with communism and it being a failed ideology?
>>70256788
>mfw I know he knows I'm right
Fuckin' Commies are seriously too stupid to be allowed to live.
>>70251860
>faggots
>>70256854
>it being a generally good idea that has been highjacked by modern day twats
literally a stereotype.
>>70257023
I know you're not right, you moron.
"Communism is a lie!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udefjHuEHA0
>>70256711
>Marxism has killed wholesale more working class people over the last century than any other system by far
>>70257178
Awww, you stupid Commies can be so cute sometimes...
Constant and Repeated Failures seeking a different outcome.
Fedora user tier bullshit and lies.
>>70257295
Subjectivist and therefore unsustainable and impossible to implement.
me want paper, gib.
>>70251860
>An anomaly created by a guy that didn't work to define a situation that nobody knows with concepts that nobody understands.
Mix it woth some opportunism and it makes: the greatest dictatorships of the 20th century.
>>70251860
Historical materialism. Seriously, Marxism can be subbed up in one of its concepts. Get rid of it and you disprove Marxism.
My trolly summation of Marxism is an ideological system stolen from the French socialists.
>>70252099
stop being so entitled you shitlord and give that money to Tyrone
>>70257455
>thinks capitalism has killed more workers than communism
How the fuck can you advocate such a fucking stupid system? Are you being serious or just baiting?
>>70251860
Religion.
Just fuck my country up.
>>70257175
If you actually believe modern day cultural marxism has anything in common with the original idea of Marx, you're a fucking retard.
>>70251860
Transfer more power to workers from those who hold capitals.
t. I read communist manifesto. Actually I didn't read it, I listened to audio recording.
>>70251860
Jewish Bolshevism
Marxism makes us equal.
Equally poor.
>>70251860
a commune of people collectively in control of the production of goods and services
Also, Marxism is a shit tier system. It just sounds nice. Economies function much better when individuals are in control of what they produce, and they must produce, before they themselves eat.
>>70257880
This.
Marx's own -- and only -- description of what Communism actually looked like was an Ernest Hemingway fantasy of patriarchal masculinity: fish in the morning, hunt in the afternoon, tend herds and fields in the evening, and discuss literature over supper.
>>70251860
Sophistry
>>70251860
Force
>>70257936
heuheeu dont even bother. we elected commies in here. look what happend.
>>70257936
I started reading it and fell asleep. Then later I ran out of toilet paper and used Marx's holy pages to wipe my ass.
>>70257880
>If you actually believe modern day cultural marxism has anything in common with the original idea of Marx, you're a fucking retard.
There it is...again...you've become a joke. A stereotype. It's kinda sweet, desu.
>>70257793
>>70251860
RICH PEOPLE HAVE TO DIE.
>>70251860
coercion
>>70251860
The only true enemy of humanity.
>>70251860
We must secure the existence of our people and a future for Jewish children.
>>70258060
>Marx's own -- and only -- description of what Communism actually looked like was an Ernest Hemingway fantasy of patriarchal masculinity: fish in the morning, hunt in the afternoon, tend herds and fields in the evening, and discuss literature over supper.
It's incredible, really, Doctor. They even use the word fantasy when describing communism. It's just mind boggling how retarded that actually are. It's embarrassing but I can't help but feel bad for them.
politics of envy.
>>70258138
So we both come to the conclusion that you're full of shit with no actual arguments to back up your wrong position. Nice talk.
>>70258141
>let's just leave out Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and Castro
>>70258141
>anti assad
I bet you think race is a social construct
>>70251860
Daddy issues, the ideology.
>>70251860
The get-out-clause of a bourgeois jew who knew their time was up.
The means of production should belong to the people that actually make the product
>>70258141
>>70251860
I can't think or make decisions for myself, and need Marxism to choose my path, and make my life's decisions for me because I cannot handle choices.
>>70258380
actually no. Race is a biology concept. and there is only one race. the fucking human race. otherwise trying to fuck a different race of "human" would not end in babies. basic biology.
Meça sua biologia parça.
>>70258141
Wew nice meme lad
Except that literally all of these people were considered treasonous and brought nothing but suffering for their beliefs
Great job!
>>70251860
Wealthy 1% party officials ruling over the bottom 99% with the threat of execution or hard labor.
>ITT: people who were never in the same room with anything Marx wrote.
if you're interested ask me what you don't understand about marxism, I read a bit about Marx/Engels/Dialectics couple of months ago
>>70251860
Cuckoldry
Jewish politics.
>>70258349
>So we both come to the conclusion that you're full of shit with no actual arguments to back up your wrong position. Nice talk.
Please, anon. I'm not going to waste my time citing the literal countless arguments against Communism that have been made since Marx first put pen to paper. I'm not going to waste my time going over, yet again and again and again, how many times it's been tried and failed.
B-b-b-b-b-b-but THIS TIME IS DIFFERENT! IF WE USE MMMMMMMYYYYYYYYYY DEFINITION OF COMMUNISM IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO WORK.
Please, anon. Please. Now you're insulting your brain so bad that I feel insulted for it.
Please. Just stop.
>>70251860
Good for humanity but bad for people because they're selfish assholes.
>>70252591
you do understand how anti-semitic marx was?
he was literally one of the most anti-semitic philosophers, he proposed that jews needed to be broken up and to be forced to integrate and be social like other european people
>>70251860
Nonsense refused even by it`s creator in the end.
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>>70258941
>I read a bit about Marx/Engels/Dialectics couple of months ago
>I read a bit
>a bit
Oh wow everyone. We have a wise genius Marxist scholar here. LOOK OUT!
>>70251922
What is it they say about first posts?
>>70258941
>Because someone wrote it that means I have to follow it
No better then bible thumpers honestly
Just because a theory is written does not mean it's specific writing needs to be followed
Especially when it's a theory that's been tested and has failed countless times
Literal Sheep
If public services are maintained with the public interest in mind, why are the public forced to pay for it?
>>70251860
Morals and ideological thought with authority coming from Marx and Engels.
>>70251860
You lack personal responsibility and want to be like a retarded child with the government being your caregiver.
>>70259307
>>70251860
A materialist analysis of class relations under capitalism.
Messianic Jewish Utopian fantasy designed to centralize power in Jewish hands, exact revenge against "persecution" and create mountains of goy corpses.
Alternately: Let's dispel this fiction that Marx didn't know what he was doing and that "Marxism doesn't work"; it works just fine: its purpose is to create bloodbaths and misery.
>>70259366
a bit, like The Communist Manifesto, couple of those Engels' books about Family and Marriage, then like half of Das Kapital (it's like 900 fucking pages long) and few other short books about Marxist economics, Introduction to marxist economics is one of them
>>70251860
Created to destroy the West
>>70251860
Constraining society to the lowest common denominator.
>>70259091
The most important aspect of humanity is the freedom to be human. You'd understand how "great" Communism really is when you step out of your Capitalist "shithole" and go live in a Communist state where you literally decide NOTHING for yourself.
>>70259630
Do you advocate communism?
>>70258941
Could you answer the question pls oh learned one?
>>70259784
Marxism is slavery to Marxist thought.
>>70259389
it's not a theory, it's an analysis of human society and economics, with predictions as to how our society/economics will unfold in the future.
communism isn't his invention, it's his prediction about what will be. to him it is inevitable. again if you wanna know, just read the communist manifesto
>>70259152
It was those damn Eastern European jews that left Russia after the assassination of Alexander II and the Russians blaming it on the Jews and having state sponsored lynchings of the Jews.
The eastern jews refused to integrate into the societies they immigrated to abs reignited Europe's age old hatred of jews.
>>70257698
Most of the estimates of communism killing 100 billion trillion people are either propaganda or just distorted. Historical population graphs show the population drops from supposed mass famines and massacres to be much smaller than mainstream media portrays them to be. Mao may have killed 20-30 million, but the common estimate of 50-70 million is absurd. Even so, for most of his rule, China experienced net gain in population most years. Similarly with Stalin, he may have caused the deaths of several million, but the number of deaths often attributed to the GULAG exceeds the number that ever actually passed through the system.
>>70251860
Good idea going horribly wrong.
We'll redistribute from the successful to discourage success.
>>70259787
again, as I said in a different post, communism wasn't an invention, or something to advocate and make it yourself, it was Marx's prediction that is inevitable. So your question doesn't make any sense. It's like asking: "Do you advocate the inevitable end of our universe as science predicts it?"
It's gonna happen.
It's a fact from the future if you will.
>>70259790
shoot away you faggot
>>70259152
You do realise how jewish Marx was, every single one of his recorded ancestors was a jew and both of his grandfathers were rabbi's. Being descended from several Rabbinical families and even being a cousin to the Rothschild I literally cannot think of a person born more jewish then Karl Marx.
>>70258350
The point is that not all far left movements are sociopathic. In fact, the majority of them aren't. The benign ones are mostly passed over by the history books.
>>70259879
Maybe you should read it first fag lord
>>70259630
>a bit, like The Communist Manifesto, couple of those Engels' books about Family and Marriage, then like half of Das Kapital (it's like 900 fucking pages long) and few other short books about Marxist economics, Introduction to marxist economics is one of them
lol. babby's first time reading.
Jesus Christ, you're embarrassing. Go on, please keep posting. Great stuff, anon. Great stuff.
>>70259876
Sure
>>70260039
The workers of the world are pretty much too stupid/uneducated/unskilled to accomplish much of anything. They have to be led around like cattle by the elites, or they'll regress into primitivism.
>>70260039
>good idea
>>70260215
again, read a bit of Marx and just how much he hated jews, he got that from Hegel
>>70259933
Eh they still killed millions, for fucks sake Stalin killed more than Hitler. They were ass holes whose policies killed millions if their own people.
Do you advocate a communist system?
>>70260288
>Marxism is truth from God, you can not choose anything else, serf.
You replace economic slavery with ideological slavery.
>>70251860
Jews being Jews.
>>70260235
and? what does that prove, that you're fucking retarded? kys
>>70260207
>inevitable end
I highly doubt that, what because someone said it was going to happen. Like the preacher in the US who said rapture was going to happen. I highly doubt communism is going to take over the world.
>>70251860
>Just fuck my country up.
>>70258861
>treason
Look at some of the regimes they fought against and try saying they were better or legitimate.
Also, the amount of suffering they caused was negligible. The majority of it came from people like you who ousted those movements, massacred their followers, sabotaged the economies, and proceeded to blame the resulting mess on a communist conspiracy as an excuse to build an even more repressive state.
>>70260377
Marx is a retarded Jew who has no clue about the workers, the workers don't want nor care about any intellectualism, only more food to eat.
>>70260271
what else is there to read from Marx/Engels of any value? I guess you can read Hegel for the sake of dialectical materialism but you don't have to... stop being autistic
>>70251860
The most dangerous form of religion.
>>70251860
>Define marxism, in one sentence
It's the future, comrade!
>>70251860
It was the Jews.
>>70260207
>Says communism is inevitable
>Posts a book written by a man who was trying to force this "inevitable" future to actually come true. He failed btw.
Top kek
>>70260534
>Serbia can't into reading
Let me break down your statements
>It's not a theory
It's written directly as marxist theory on how he views politics and man kind
His predictions came from that skewed basis
>communism isn't his invention
Yet he's the one directly credited for it's invention
>it's his prediction of what will be
His prediction was again skewed
Here's the definition of theory since you're too stupid to understand basic words
>a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained
>>70260653
>workers produce this amoutn of profit
>they deserve some more of the profit
end of story.
The hunger and thirst is true, Marxism is not.
>>70260396
Stalin didn't start the bloodiest war in human history and he only dabbled in industrial murder. Still an asshole though.
I don't advocate totalitarianism, if that's what you're saying, but I advocate increased worker control of industry and enterprise, and increased public spending.
>>70260477
I misquoted you bro sorry, yeah I agree with what you said
>>70260377
Read 'Homage to Catalonia' by George Orwell. That's how you'll understand how fucking flawed marxism and communism is. Jews just wanted to fuck the world other to get MUH SHEKELS.
>>70260583
that's why there is an analysis. he didn't just say it, read Das Kapital if you want to understand how he came up with it.
>>70260653
yet, his words engulfed the whole planet in war after he was long dead, sure, words of stupid men are capable of doing that...
>>70260893
>a man who was trying to force this "inevitable" future to actually come true
lol, first your president Obongo is a huge fan of Alinsky so I mean...
Second, if you think that you haven't understood a single word Alinsky said. He was a political relativist, he was for the revolution whatever it was, he was for the power. he didn't have any real convictions desu
>>70260377
He can say alot of shit and what he said about jews was probably to cover up his own heritage, fact is that he was very involved with other jews, with jews like Moses Hess tutoring him and Engels in his ideology, getting money from rich jews like the prominent Dutch jewish Philips family and possibly even the Rothschilds after moving to England, both of which he was related to, and having a extremely large amount of his successors being jews themselves.
Some lip-service isn't going to change that.
>>70251860
Kikes and niggers
>ITT
>babby's first communism
>>70251860
If economic systems were experiments, then marxism would be the equivalent of you setting your laboratory on fire.
A great big bushy beard
>>70260937
I was being a romantic there you dumb fuck, jesus. What's the word in english? when a stupid person hangs to literal meaning of the words and isn't capable of seeing the meaning that is implied? my english is bad but you're a retard and you should kill yourself
>>70260998
>Stalin didn't start the bloodiest war in human history and he only dabbled in industrial murder. Still an asshole though.
He was very much counting on it, and he was the one who instigated it. Hitler wanted war, and Stalin made sure he got himself into a position where he would have no say in the beginning of the war. He practically gave the greenlight to invade Poland.
>I don't advocate totalitarianism, if that's what you're saying, but I advocate increased worker control of industry and enterprise, and increased public spending.
So you advocate for the creation of monopolies and further restriction of economic liberties. In the name of what?
>>70251860
Theft
Marxism is the economic system in which lions and zebras are required to eat the same kind of food.
>>70251860
Goys surrendering complete control over to the Jews.
>>70260998
He had a part in the start of the war, he invaded Poland just like Germany. He was a asshole who wanted to grab as much territory as he could...like the axis.
>>70261164
So what? Obongo might like Alinsky but America never had the marxist uprising we keep being told is inevitable. I mean seriously you guys are worse than the Christians trying to predict the rapture. At least they pretend to have misread the signs or some bullshit. You guys just keep saying "sooonnnn"
And Alinsky explicitly stated in Rules for Radicals his desire for his techniques to be applied only for left wing causes. He actually thought his strategies would never work for the Right because they relied on people instead of money.
>>70261792
look in a mirror.
United States of America/Area
Image result for area of usa
3.806 million mi2
Germany/Area
Image result for area of germany
137,903 mi2
>>70258321
Ce pula faci, ba, pula? Ai auzit ca exista o panza de fire la care te conectezi sa mananci rahat in codul binar?
Tu platesti netul sau tu esti ala care a provocat incendiul de marti seara?
>>70262064
What?
>>70252032
:^)
>>70251860
How to steal everything from everyone.
Is something more jewish than that ever existed?
>>70262145
Axis was no more expansionist than anyone else.
>>70251860
Not for humans in this universe.
>>70261523
>I was being a romantic
Again Serbia can't into english
Here i'll help you
>I was being retarded
I think that's what you were looking for
>>70258720
something something horse and zebra making babies fucking faggot
>>70262211
We aren't talking about that, we are talking about is the fact Stain help start a war. He was an asshole who had no problem murdering and waging total war.
>>70251860
My question is, why are especially Americans so fucking butthurt when "Marxism" or "Stalin" or "Lenin" or "Socialism" or "Communism" mentioned?
There is literally impossible to have a sane discussion with most Americans on these topics.
>>70262541
reading is hard to them
>>70259879
>just read the communist manifesto
>reading a leaflet designed for the prole-iest of proles
D A S K A P I T A L
>>70262688
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>>70251860
Mansplaining.
>>70251860
Dead men have no class.
>>70251860
cognitive dissonance taken form
>>70262864
>AN INTRODUCTION
FOR HALF-RETARDED PROLES
>>70261204
God, you're a cunt
>>70262187
That's actually not true.
>>70263116
EXACTLY, like it was made for /pol/
>>70251860
Give total control of all means of production to the Jews, and then make it illegal to point it out.
>>70251922
First post best post AND dubs! This is a good sign.
>>70263116
Awww, how cute ;D
Somebody that likes to pretend they are upper-class, to feel better ;D
>>70251860
Non jews exist to serve Jews.
>>70251922
First post best post.
The belief that all transactions must be zero-sum.
>>70251860
A NEET tells the world whats wrong with society.
>>70251860
>Da Joos
