redpill me on this guy /pol/
was he right?
what he did was ok?
>>70229943
killing children is never ok
>>70229943
It wasn't moral but it probably was right, atleast for our interests, yeah.
He's a bitchboy. If he was legit he would have done his shit at the parliament.
>>70229943
desu he looked better with hair
>>70229943
Hitler would have called him degenerate for killing kids.
>>70229943
>>70230301
He killed the future generation of politicians who would today be flooding his country with mudslime.
All those "children" were traitors, they were on that Island to celebrate their mutual love of multiculturalism, it was a brain washing camp designed to solidify the next generation of leftiest politicians dogmatic approach to killing the white race.
Fuck them.
Breivik done excellent work, he really is what /pol/ should strive to be, but we should be doing it on a much larger scale.
Killing people is degenerative
>thou shalt not kill
>>70230612
Gchq are on their way anon
>>70229943
well he did nothing wrong, so I don't get what you're saying
>>70229943
>was he right?
He had the right idea, but like 95% of his victims were white
Instead of killing some random white kids, he could've instead targeted some radical imam in norway (there has to be one or two) and he would've made a better difference.
>>70229943
The guy was a dedicated anti-Marxist and a brilliant nationalist. His acts were brutal, but Marxism is cancer. And removing cancer is brutal. The people he killed were mostly 15-30. His actions were in self defense. The people he killed were teens, and they certainly weren't innocent. His actions are only a small drop in the bucket compared to what the multiculturalists will unleash upon Europe.
In short, he did what needs to be done.
>>70230612
Fucking reported stormfag, give my regards to MI5
>>70230612
But it wouldn't be alright for a left wing activist to do that at a Trump's rally for instance, right?
You're contradicting yourself, you meme ideology brainwashed cunt
kys edgy shithead
>>70230634
And this is how Christianity made the Europeans the cucks they are now
>>70231386
This is not a fair fight, retard. Did the Bataclan mean nothing to you? This is a war for Europe and Western civilization.
>>70230584
The meme that children of the enemy are automatically innocent is pretty pathetic. They will grow up to be like their parents. Why is someone suddenly fair game because they've been around a few more years? Do you think the Muslim hordes would spare European children?
Will the forced conversions and Christian executions be any less brutal?
>>70229943
>implying killing commies and future commies is ever bad
>>70230561
Agreed.
>>70230612
>shot a few dozen out out thousands
>having any noticable effect
His bomb mysteriously went off well after everybody had left their offices, no actual politicians were in any danger of being harmed.
He also decided to go to Utoya the one day without any actual politicians being there (information that was easily available beforehand, had he gone there one day earlier he could have shot the former PM). Instead he shot a bunch of easily replaceable sacrificial lambs (teenagers with dumb opinions are a dime a dozen but are perfect for sympathy in the media).
Then the media spun their story of violent right wing extremism, it became blasphemy to speak out against multiculturalism and conversions to Islam tripled (literally).
Not saying that there's something fishy about the entire story, but it sounds like a textbook false flag. I know this is tinfoilhat-tier conspiratorial stuff but I still have a hard time trusting the official story.
>>70231748
Still, killing them is wrong. I'd rather send them to a concentration camp to work, to be of any relevance to society instead of killing it.
>>70229943
Of course he was right (as in correct).
>>70231386
Trump isn't trying to exterminate or push people out of their own homeland and extinguish their culture and heritage.
>>70229943
he was a good boy
he dindu nuffin
>>70231748
Well spoken ameribro
It was the summer camp of some socialist political party
No innocent summer camp organised by the local community or church
They would have grown up to become refugees welcome banner wavers
It's sad but they were already spoiled
Not that much worse than blowing up a mosque full of children which is objectively a good thing
>>70229943
No.
He killed the moderate non-cucked leftists.
The cucked ones from the cucked-left party got nothing.
>>70230612
AuF is not an indoctrination camp. They don't take marching orders from their adult counterpart, and disagree on many issues. (Like Israel.)
The notion that it is a brainwashing camp is absurd. They go there to learn about politics, yes. But they do not get politics dictated to them. They go there to talk about politics.
>>70230910
This faggot comes to mind:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mullah_Krekar
>>70231330
Bullshit. He was no more nationalist than others. He just thought that Ap would open the floodgates, even though they aren't the worst offenders of that shit.
The liberal right are pro open borders, and the liberal left are all about muh-diversity. Ap is neither.
>>70231892
If he had gone when there were politicians there, then there would have been security and shit there. Also, he fucked up with his bomb.
And if this was an attempt to shill for the liberals, then he has failed miserably. Conservative positions have strengthened both on the left and the right.
Edgy autist just like all nazis
>>70232081
Yeah, and how exactly would Breivik have sent them to a concentration camp, you daft cunt? He did what he could despite his circumstances. The only thing that fucked him up was that he was a bit ahead of his time because there weren't any redpilled Eurofags to continue his message.
>>70232290
>>70231892
Never considered that but it sounds not that unlikely
Breivik was really a black man
#StayWoke
Hes a war hero.
>>70229943
1. He didn't do his own cause any good, he would've done himself a favour if he just burnt himself in front of the parliament and left a manifesto or whatever.
2. Children aren't anyone's enemies. I'm sure most of us were brainwashed into being liberals through highschool etc. and those children probably got the same treatment at home.
3. Even if you feel you have a right or duty to resistance - then you resist. You don't go run amok between innocent civilians or children.
4. The only people ACTING will almost inevitably be idiots, nutcases or losers because everyone else has too much to lose or enough to distract him from the misery.
If you have a great wife or enough money to just avoid the problems, you're probably not going to throw it all away to save a bunch of Western cucks.
5. Everyone always believes themselves to be right and justified, so non-violence is still an ideal with merits.
6. You're doing more for your cause if you become social and convince the 2, 20, 200 people close to you. Because that's something everyone can do.
>>70231892
I always thought what a questionable, probably not well thought out plan it was. But I figured this guy is probably just stupid and didn't realize the outcome is complicated and may not be what he wanted. I'm pretty sure he is insane. Even though he was right to fear what he did. And before most people realized it that it is a problem.
>>70232369
>>70231386
It's never right to be left faggot, I don't know how you could even confuse the two, one is right, the other is left.
>>70232267
>They go there to learn about politics, yes.
Through the absurdist lens.
>>70230910
Indeed. He'd risk martyring the radical preacher as some sort of Pillar Of The Community though. "Aww he preached that our heads should be cut off but he was a lovely guy really #PrayForOslo".
>>70232503
What children?
>>70231386
It's absurd to judge actions like that on a moral ground. That's what white people do, and it's going to kill them. We should just ask ourselves "is it good for whites ?"
>>70232622
Do you know what the party Ap is for?
Just a quick obvious question. Because you seem to think that they're basically a jewish front for degeneracy or some shit.
>>70232845
Precisely this, when we engage in this pointless bickering over the morality of our people defending themselves we only weaken our own stance. Furthermore we engage in slave morality and fail to live up to the potential of our own strength while doing so.
>>70232545
>Later that night
Alright, who's got the cards! I'm wining back by cigarettes last night.
Hans had them
Killing people just to spread a message is never okay, but his message was good.
>>70232922
They arent really for anything. They agreed to all proposals for stricter immigration while at the same time calling it inhumane.
>>70230634
It's actually "thou shalt not commit murder." No life form can live without killing other life forms, not even plants and bacteria.
Rejecting the difference between killing and murder inevitably leads to a fatal rejection of reality.
>>70232922
>Pro-Europeanism
>Workers' Youth League leader Mani Hussaini
Sounds shit just like our Labour party.
>>70233144
Are you sure you should be the one to lecture us on methods with what has befallen sweden? I don't mean to be insulting on the matter, but it is worth pointing out that as it stands you are still drowning in liberal bullshit over there.
>>70229943
The epitome of a fucking mong, instead of doing any kind of meaningful change in Norway, he shoots up a summer camp full of kids
Now say what you will about 'protecting' your country from immigrants, but how the fuck is shooting children a solution?
If anything, it would make it harder for legitimate politicians in the country to push forward any meaningful immigration reform
What a fucking idiot, and people who sympathize with him are fucking degenerates
>>70229943
No.
He made it even worse. All he achieved is people getting more sympathy towards immigrants.
>>70233286
He didn't do anything wrong though, Children or not liberals are traitors and subversives.
>>70230865
based belgium poster
>>70233144
In a war, there is good, and there is evil. Killing evil is justified, Sven. This isn't about two equal competing ideologies. This is about the future of Europe and Western civilization, not some parliamentary debate.
>>70229943
He makes a lot of good points in his book, but I don't agree with his actions and his ideology. Muslims are okay if they stay in their own countries. He calls for all nationalists to unite against Islam, but I say all nationalists should unite including Muslim Arab and Persian nationalists.
If his victims were alive they would have apologized to him.
>>70233578
No, but you see, he was WHITE, which means he is inherently evil in the minds of lefties.
>>70233578
>Anyone ever apologizing to a white man
You should refine your shitposting skills Straya because you're slippin.
>>70229943
>was he right?
all of his predictions came true so far
>>70229943
also:
>>70233258
>>70233399
Are you Muslims or Christians? Killing people just to spread a message is never okay.
If he wanted to make a difference he should've gone after the Jews. No one here in Sweden has any idea that those children were communists or that they actually weren't even children but adults or that the reason Breivik did it was because he wanted to advertise his book. They don't even know that the book exists. They think it was all just an act of pure evil.
>>70233563
You must be unfamiliar with Islam, friend. Muslims actively want to move to the West to claim these lands for Islam. They won't be satisfied until they've forced everyone to convert or be killed. They want you dead. Think about that before ever spouting favorable words regarding Islam again.
>>70233378
>Children
>having legitimate political views
OK, amerifat even if their parent is a liberal politician, does that make them some kind of immigrant lover?
In case you didn't know CHILDREN, do not hold any real political power, and they have an entire childhood to create their own identity
Breivik could have won the hearts and minds of the people and made real change politically or socially, but instead he dropped to a level of stupidity and barbarity, on the same level as Jihadist groups
The far-right need to stop this US vs. THEM outlook, and realise that the world is complex and subject to great deals of change, if promoted
>>70232267
>AUF is non-cucked
>AUF is not an indoctrination camp
I know an ex-AUF and he said it was exactly that.
>>70233897
You have based Muslims like pic related who are nationalists and would be allies to the nationalist cause.
>>70233905
>>70233813
Liberals aren't people though, they're parasites that suck the life out of your culture leaving nothing but shit in their wake, there's also significant evidence for the heritability of political attitudes, so it is at least apparent to me that it is better to have dead liberal children than live ones. As for the UK and Sweden, we can discuss methods of preventing immigration by muslims when you find a method that works, at least Breivik tried.
>>70233756
Non European Christians and other minorities can be a problem too. Would you be okay with millions of Vietnamese displacing France?
>>70233905
The people he killed were teens, so not exactly children. Still, consider this, Sven: If you are at war, you must kill you enemy's children. Sure, there's a chance some of them will like you, but they will likely grow up with the same animosity towards you that their parents had. The people who perished were brainwashed and a threat to their nation. It's sad, but it's the reality we face.
I was actually at a socialist camp on the island some years prior to his attack. Was good times, lots of girls, no alochol, smart and attractive young people having discussions on current affairs. Sure people hade some strange opinions, but compared to other 14-18 year olds they were ubermensch. What did pol/ do when 16 years old?
>>70229943
>To start with, every human being should be considered sane/accountable before law. Of those that evaluated me, 37 persons in total, highly qualified in psychiatry and the evaluation of psychiatric cases, of those 37, 35 didn't recognize any symptoms in me at all. Of a total of 37 persons, it was therefore two that found a multitude of symptoms. So it is absolutely clear where the focus should be. The 35 or the two experts.
>The ideal is to have sex with as many strangers as possible. Rather than to idealize the nuclear family, that was the emphasis in Europe until the mid sixties, we focus on dissolving the nuclear family with all the problems it brings with it. For example the ideals of "Sex in the city", where Samantha and Carrie have sex with over one hundred men during the course of 100, 200 episodes of the series. It is these ideals that are presented to our sisters and daughters today. This is a sickness. These sick ideals must be censored and kept away from our society
>Now I'll get to the neglect of our duty towards our families and our nation. People receive education, they travel, they are 35 before they decide on having children. That is not a sustainable development. Women should start having children in their twenties. Our birth rate lies below the necessary minimum. I will not elaborate further on that.
>The judges that are seated here today can sentence me at their convenience. history will condemn the judges in this case. History will decide if they condemned a man who tried to stop the evil of our time. History shows that from time to time a small barbarity is necessary to stop a much bigger one.
>>70234571
Fell in love with a girl who was killed by a drunk driver, started drinking, dropped out of high school, took up gunsmithing, threatened a psychologist with a knife, went to juvenile hall for 3 months, got my GED, started studying Nietzsche. It was a hell of a year.
>>70229943
He killed white people, because he wanted to protect white people from brown people. He is kind of retarded honestly. Would of made more sense to attack a mosque during prayer or something.
>>70234187
I was a liberal. I didn't do any damage like all the other liberals but I was a liberal nonetheless. Now I'm not a liberal any more. Explain that atheists
The only problem with liberals in dystopian brainwash centers like Sweden is oversocialization. They're taught from an early age to attack everyone who thinks differently and as they grow older they continue to reinforce each other's indoctrinations. They never even get a chance to hear what the opposition has to say.
>>70234815
That would have just curried more favor for shit skins though.
>>70233905
>In case you didn't know CHILDREN, do not hold any real political power,
>These were not innocent civilians or children, but political activists who actively promoted multiculturalism and cultural Marxism. As many as 44 of 65 AUF-ers had leading positions in the AUF, and many took part in other political boards, and are nominated for county boards for the Labour Party. AUF is very similar to the Hitler Jugend. Utoya is an indoctrination camp for political activists
>https://sites.google.com/site/breivikreport/documents/anders-breivik-court-statement-2012-04-17
>>70234858
Believe it or not, i was a liberal when i was younger too, and i deserved to be shot, i grew out of my delusion, but there was no guarantee of that nor is there for anyone else. you kill the enemy you have in your sights, you don't wait around for them to figure out how best to fuck you and yours or to unfuck themselves.
>>70234815
His point was that Europeans are the greatest threat to themselves. It is cultural Marxism and multiculturalism that weakens Europeans to the point that they're willing to flood their nations with mudslimes and become total cucks.
>>70234815
I'm not defending Breivik, but he was aiming for the political party that pushes for mass immigration.
Blowing up a mosque would do nothing in the long run.
>>70234975
Former socialist here. I deserved to be shot when I held that ideology. There's no guarantee you can ever escape that retarded pseudo-moralistic mindset.
>>70231330
One of a vast majority was 30. This is a lie. He killed what we westerners consider children so don't make ur sound like they were 25.
>>70235299
That wasn't the implication. Nor do I care if they were all in their late twenties or teens. That's not the point. I refer you to this:>>70231748
>>70234948
Seems like you have some solid stuff, Alfredo. Glad to know I'm not the only one who has an interest in Breivik.
>>70234187
>>70234268
>Liberals aren't people though
Democracy allows for everyone to have a voice, regardless of what they believe, dehumanizing the opposition over their beliefs might seem understandable at first, but at the end of the day it is moronic, you need to think rationally and not emotionally
> If you are at war, you must kill you enemy's children. Sure, there's a chance some of them will like you, but they will likely grow up with the same animosity towards you that their parents had. The people who perished were brainwashed and a threat to their nation.
What war are you talking about? Are you talking about Immigrants moving to Norway? sure people might issues with immigrants, and yeah immigrants may not get along. But at the end of the day shooting and bombing innocent people, who had nothing to do with the policies in place is 100% deplorable, and degenerate as fuck.
Now i know you amerifats are so desensitized to mass shootings since you see it everyday,
but in a civilized world, meaningful opposition only takes place with political legitimacy, resorting to tactics like US vs. THEM, or calling people opposed to you inhuman scum, only alienates your cause, due to the fact to the people it makes you look like idiots who cant come up with reasonable arguments and so have to resort to dumbass tactics like killing kids of politicians
>>70229943
He was right
What he did wasn't okay.
That's pretty much it.
>>70233167
They helped write them ffs.
They're pretty muh for doing whatever works.
>>70233197
Considering that some faggot shot around 90 white kids that could have held that position...
>>70234039
My experience with AuF is that they're a whole bunch of kids arguing about shit all day for fun.
At least that's what the AuFers I've talked to have said.
>>70235784
Democracy is stupid though, it's a clumsy system that inevitably results in rule by the lowest common denominator. As for dehumanizing traitors, i can't imagine why anyone would want to do that.
>>70235956
>Considering that some faggot shot around 90 white kids that could have held that position...
Well that's a weird application of "post hoc ergo propter hoc".
>>70229943
you tell me, desperate times call for desperate measures
>>70236004
Agreed. The ignorance of the masses perpetuates the destruction of Western society.
>>70235784
The war I'm talking about is the war for the soul of Western civilization. There is a just, nationalistic cause, as well as a traitorous cultural Marxist cause. The Bataclan and Brussels won't be the end. Muslims will continue until they've either gotten their way or are defeated. Your emotional arguments imply there are two somewhat equal sides involved. In this case, there are not.
>>70229943
He was so right that his goverment can't import as much mudslim as Sweden because it will validate him when shit goes down
>>70236004
>>70236440
You two are morons, have you read the sticky on the first page, youre both making arguments from at least half of the fallacies on there
Give me a real logical argument, and not some bullshit statement like overrated democracy, or Europe being at war
>>70229943
>complaint about immigrant
>kill white people
why dont attack mosque for god sake!? He is idiot that wasted this chance
The attacked the cause of multiculturalism in Europe, the natives who caloborate to allow it to happen. He should have attacked the main right wing party too, since they're are usually just as complicit. Killing kids isn't the way forward though.
>>70236980
Dismissing our points as "bullshit statements" won't do for argumentation. Calling the reality of the situation illogical is cowardice.
>>70230612
Based anglo. He shoot a bunch of pro Palestinian/open all boarders/gay rights/commie/the goy version of Hollywood jew.
I'd love to chat about Breivik all day, but I have to get to work. Remember that his message was ultimately correct and that multiculturalists and globalists are traitors to their nations. They don't deserve sympathy. The Muslims hordes will not grant us sympathy. Remain steadfast in your nationalist, right-wing goals, and reject the treasonous actions of the left. Deus Vult, brothers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wm4RlnnaOU
>>70229943
He was correct about the problem and wrong about the solution. No good ever comes out of a mass shooting.
>>70236171
I'm just saying that it's really fucking weird that you note that the current AuF leader is not an ethnic Norwegian, when the entire leadership structure in 2011 was killed.
>>70230634
This is why you faggots can't be part of based NatSoc
>>70229943
Nothing wrong. He's being proven right right now.
>>70230301
it's ok when it's done with bombs by the USA or Israel, apperently
