How can we know that we are trully redpilled?
The liberals believe that we are brainwashed, we believe that they are brainwashed.
The question is, how can we be sure that we are right?
Could the left be right? Or both are wrong and the "truth" is something that we still don't know?
>>70229041
because they are irrational, and we are not.
>>70229041
>How can we know that we are trully redpilled?
you can't.
you just have to assume that you're not.
keep your mind open. (but not so open that it spills out. that's how you get liberals)
liberals are >muh feels
not hard to distinguish
>>70229041
Because reality.
>>70229041
Hallucinogenic drugs and thinking for yourself
>>70229041
Because the majority is always retarded
I didn't even read the thread, I just clicked for titties.
>>70229041
Please don't post pornography here. It is the Jews tool for psychologically castrating men into being sluggards and hedonists. Thanks.
>>70229041
Because you're questioning it.
True skeptics always reevaluate
>>70229041
The fact that you made a thread to question your entire worldview to better yourself speaks volumes about the differences in the average /pol/ user vs the average tumblrina
>>70229041
We actually look at ourselves and think "Are we being influenced?"
>>70229041
All the events prove the left is wrong all along in general. After every terrorist attack they have to change their discourse.
Example: if you predicted 5 years ago islamists would strike in France and Belgium the left would call you a racist a fearmonger. After the attacks they have to prop up with a very very weak discourse of solidarity, #notallmuslims and unity, despite the fact that muslims in France and Belgium largely support the attacks
They are morally and ideologically bankrupt
>>70229041
We have facts on our side, so intellectually we are superior and this is an objective fact.
But at the end of the day, might (physical, political, cultural) makes right. We gotta win hearts and minds in order to truly be correct.
I think Trump has ushered in a great awakening. He may lose, or be assassinated (as is the fate of many populists), but he has awoken a sleeping giant. People are no longer afraid of the left, and thus are more willing to speak their minds. That's a can of worms that won't be shut easily.
Neither liberals, nor conservatives are red pilled.
Each fails to recognize the violent hypocrisy practiced by their respective political parties, everywhere in the world.
If you stand on one side or the other, you're not red pilled. Sorry.
Imo, you conservatives are slightly worse. The crazy fucking shit that comes out of some politicians mouths is baffling.
Tough call though, it's hard to take a liberal seriously when they are trying to defend the rights of people that died to make their iphones/starbucks.
You're both shit.
If you look at one part of the big picture, you'll never find the truth.
Peace, conservacucks.
>>70230355
Yet what makes somebody a "conservative"
Conservatism as Edmund Burke defined it, is actually no ideology, because ideologies intend to do social engineering. Conservatism is an organic philosophy that started back in 1789 to antagonize the liberal French revolutionaries who thought they could shape mankind and society
>>70229041
I just reversed image search that and got one of those demented cuck text pictures. Wtf man
>>70229041
Many leftists are trying to accomplish the same objectives as us, they just have a different way of going about it.
Trump and Bernie are going after the same fucking people.
The difference is in that we disagree on the issue of fiscal responsibility. We also drastically differ on race theory, gun control, political correctness and the idea of forced cultural revolution... Those are large differences.
But we both agree that globalism is shit, that the banking system is shit, that corporate culture is shit and so forth and so on.
Our enemies aren't necessarily leftists, theirs aren't necessarily conservatives, since we're mostly centrist anyway.
Our fucking enemy is the globalist.
>>70230574
Guess it depends on your country doesn't it. While this is a nice standing definition, are you truly prepared to say that conservatives in this day and age lack any kind of ideology? Do you really think conservative parties do not take part in social engineering? The example that you gave is a direct example or social engineering, as well as the hypocrisy I mentioned before.
There is no hope for you if so.
>>70229041
who is this ejaculation matron
>>70230355
*tips enlightenment*
"Im a centrist"
>>70229041
He is right who survives and spreads his genes. Nothing else matters. Your notionof truth is irrelevant when you and the people who think like you e dead.
Be self sufficient so you can survive in dangerous times. Have a backup plan. Don't get cucked by niggers.
>>70230766
We don't have the same goals man.
Liberals want to plan a whole society, create a new one based on equality and social justice.
Our starting point is human nature. We acknowledge the fact that inequality isn't that bad and that societies are natural hierarchies
The most basic difference between a liberal and a conservative is that the first believes people are basically good while the latter believes people aren't basically good. You can trace this elementary difference everywhere in leftist discourse
>>70229312
> you just have to assume that you're not.
> assume
Sounds awfully bluepilled.
>>70229041
Middle ground is a logical fallacy btw
>>70230838
Who cares? You'll never put your dinky in her pinky and shoot your spermy in her permy. You'll just sit there wanking mr willy and look real silly.
>>70231068
Elaborate.
>>70229041
Because when we ask ourselves "what would it take to change our position on a certain topic? Voting for Sanders, saying men and women are the same, all races are the same."
We can say "well it would take statics, facts, or data that clearly illustrate the opposite is happening. And even though it may be a tough pill to swallow. We will change our position to fit reality"
They, on the other hand, when asked would would it take to "vote Trump/agree the races are unequal ect...."
They will say "nothing. Nothing could possibly change my position."
>>70230355
Subscribing strongly to a particular ideology in general is not very "red pilled". There are good aspects of both left and right wing thinking and if you don't realize that then you are an idiot who cannot look at things objectively. Similarly, there are many negative aspects of both sides. There is no perfect 1 solution with no flaws. The world is flawed and you will not find objective truth in any set ideology unless you intentionally limit yourself.
>>70229041
Voltaire said "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."
In your life, who are you not allowed to criticize?
Always be open to new information and facts and use facts and evidence to build a case against one point of view that you believe in and if you find yourself in a position where you cannot speak out without backlash, then you are truly redpilled.
>>70230355
They're both equally as bad. They all say crazy shit, neocons just happen to not always abide by PC rules that liberals established so it seems like they're worse. They're all shit.
>>70230766
>mfw based hat is based
>>70230816
Ofcourse conservative parties take part in social engineering, but I'm not talking about parties. A party is just a means to achieve your goals and parties actually ruin politics.
And I didn't gave an example? Edmund Burke is the man who launched conservatism as a means to fight liberalism
>>70231039
>inequality isn't that bad
>wage gap worse than ever
>globalists who create the hierarchy preparing to purge 99% of humanity from the safety of the bunkers within the next 15 years.
Yeah, let's keep this going. Fuck it, as long as I'm not on the bottom I guess.
Guys check out this quick video Trump: Our Only Hope.?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zafmqQ3G0I
If you fall for divisive politics, you are brainwashed.
Why do you think the same money groups fund both sides? This is all just a distraction to keep people from unifying
It's only partly intentional and largely a structural problem
>>70229041
Being redpilled isn't a steady state. It's always evolving as you continue to re-evaluate and question everything you learn and everything you thought you already knew.
>>70229041
This board is full of brainwashed people.
Leftist SJWs and /pol/ack-type people are both "controlled" oppositions.
For example.:
>Media is all about Bernie this and Trump that
>Polarization of population
>Clinton is coasting through despite Benghazi and e-mail scandal
>Bernieists lean more towards Clinton than Trump, even though Clinton is more beneficial for the dreaded 1%
>Trump vs Clinton = more polarization
>Clinton's election = streets filled with hateful brainwashed SJWs insulting bigots
>more polarization
>Gun control in the US
>polarization in Europe
>Hate speech censorship to EU(Clinton-Merkel sisterhood)
Nationalsocialism has no longevity. Same thing with irrational social justice.
>>70231393
Posting this in every thread?
>>70231039
So liberal PC culture isn't a fad, but economic inequality is?
>while the latter believes people aren't basically good.
Not true at all. Libertarianism and Anarchism philosophies of all economic systems disprove this instantly.
>>70231682
Not everyone on /pol/ is a national socialist or fascist.
>>70231686
It's a bot.
>>70229217
Oh c'mon now.. Both the left and right have infamous moments of irrationality. Are we forgetting Iraq?
>>70231813
I know. I just used that as an obvious example.
>>70229041
dem tities
>>70229041
Because there is no racist nazi propaganda out there as there is no anti migrant propaganda. All the local news cover the rapeugees in a good light for example. I simply have a poor opinion on "refugees" based on what i see with my own eyes and not what someone told me
>>70231367
Well there is a reason I said it isn't THAT bad, nice straw man. Care to refute the other points I made in that post?
Liberals are very fanatic in destroying inequality. They want to get rid of all sorts of inequality. What you get is a lousy school system and a reward for everybody system. Commies go even further in this and order you to have the same haircut and wear the same cloths. So the left is very dogmatic in this.
Ofcourse you are right about the globalists. That's why I'm predominantly a nationalist. But I believe it's natural to have some inequality in a society. Because we strive for hierarchies naturally. Communist-like 'societies' only existed in the hunter-gatherers time. Once we got into argiculture and became sedentary, property rights and thus hierarchies became the thriving powers behind a growing society
>>70229041
You can only be certain you are right when your thought process starts physical evidence and then applies reason to that evidence to draw conclusions about the way the world works. You then have to test those conclusions by deliberately seeking out additional evidence to both support and counter your position. That process lets you discover subtle nuances to reality and find the odds of your conclusions being correct in any given circumstance.
No one is 100% right, but the Left doesn't even try to be reasonable anymore. They start with ideological positions which are often contradicted by real world evidence, and then defend those positions with appeals to emotion and shaming tactics. They become outraged if you so much as ask them to provide proof supporting their positions.
>>70231726
Well that's because anarchists (and libertarians) have a simplistic view on human nature
>>70231902
more like are we forgetting the entire Reagan presidency
>hurr imma conservative guys btw doubling the size of the federal government, starting contras all over latin america and getting my ass kicked, and have one of the worst debt records of any president in history did I mention I'm a conservative
>WE LOVE YOU RONNIE! AHYUK
>>70232191
but there are left and right wing anarchists and libertarians
that's my point
>>70229041
I was wondering about this the other day.
>/pol/ unironically believes that authoritarian conservative white nationalism is a logically flawless ideology
I wish more educated people knew about /pol/ so they could come and laugh at the biggest hive of squishy headed retards on the whole internet.
>>70229041
Democrats are emotional voters who vote on non issues like: pot legalization, lgbt rights, equal rights for women (which for some reason they think women don't have), achieving a socialist utopia where everything is free and race, gender, sexuality don't exist.
Republicans are rational voters who vote on important issues such as: Taxes, national security, the maintenance of Christian conservative values that built the entirety of western civilization, protection of the the constitution that the country was founded on.
>>70229041
Its all a game
To be on topic:
>liberals are completely emotional
>i am not, i think logically
thats the only indicator i have for myself
however the whole thing truly is a game, and both sides are guilty.
it truly causes cognitive dissonance when you see someone fighting for freedom, yet forcing their beliefs on everyone.
the truth is aliens and kek and lisk
>>70232573
>Democrats are emotional voters who vote on non issues
Because people having casual sex is a real issue right?
>>70229041
It's pretty simple, anon. Most people here are idiots with a small amount of education and a lot of anger. They also have excesses of time on their hands due to failing in most aspects of life. Pre-internet none of the opinions voiced here would be circulated, mostly because they're not worth circulating and would not be ever published by anyone. Unfortunately, now it's possible for idiots to self-publish their own opinions, which is primary why this board exists.
Alexander Pope worked this out a long time ago:
A little Learning is a dang'rous Thing;
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian Spring:
There shallow Draughts intoxicate the Brain,
And drinking largely sobers us again.
tl;dr: there's no redpilled or bluepilled -- there's only idiocy.
"The political left, they deal in symbols rather than reality. The general difference between conservatives and liberals is that liberals like pretty pictures and conservatives like to build bridges that people can drive across. And conservatives are indeed conservative because if the bridge falls down then people die, whereas the liberals figure, we can always build a nice memorial and make people forget it ever happened and was our fault. They're very good at making people forget it was their fault."
-- Tom Clancy
Did i mention praise kek?
>PRAISE KEK
>>70232607
That's democracy 51% decides how the country is run. And its also why the middle ground fallacy is bullshit.
No guys! A society divided by capitalists and communists will totally work. Trust me.
>>70232651
>Because people having casual sex is a real issue right?
It literally caused the collapse of the western civilization family and has lead to the inevitable fall of western civilization to Islam
>Dictating your life based on two different types of political flavors
Cucks
>>70229041
being redpilled on /pol just means being part of the circlejerk. It doesn't give you some sudden clear insight on how the world works. As always the truth is somewhere in the middle.
>>70233385
[CITATION NEEDED]
>>70229041
Fact checking
>>70229041
You need to read some NRx
http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.ca/
Good place to start is probably this: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.ca/2007/09/how-dawkins-got-pwned-part-1.html
>>70229681
Quit being such a faggot, you Cruz voting zealot.
>>70233823
>As always the truth is somewhere in the middle.
False
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation
The truth is way off somewhere to the right that few of us can even dream of.
>>70229041
Because of FACTS
>>70232206
>more like are we forgetting the entire Reagan presidency
more like are we forgetting the entire Johnson presidency.
>>hurr imma liberal guys btw doubling the size of the poverty, starting contras all over east asia and getting my ass kicked, and have one started the worst debt record of any president in history with the welfare plantation did I mention I'm a liberal.
>WE LOVE YOU TYRONE! AHYUK
A voice of reason! Mark your calendars boys! This is a day that will live in infamy.
>>70234255
Why is that you all say this, when so many of you are blatantly wrong? You faggots don't think Hitler killed any jews, don't understand anthropomorphic climate change, a significant portion of you can't understand evolution.
When I come here as an educated person, I see a bunch of pseudo-science, revisionist history and constant inability to interpret data.
>>70229041
By distinguishing arguments from non-arguments and using logic.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHO IS GIF RELATED
>>70229921
Using left and right in this case is a false dichotomy. While the left is hilariously naive, it's better to say that this is a case of nationalism and globalism.
CULTURE WAR NOW
>>70234355
>more like are we forgetting the entire Johnson presidency.
more like are we forgetting the entire FDR presidency.
>I'm for small government guys! I swear! btw massively increasing the federal mandate, extending executive powers, abolishing any federal restrictions on currency manipulation and extending the Depression by at least half a decade because federally regulated economy + fiat currency = growth stagnation in peacetime did I mention I favor small government?
>NEW DEAL! NEW DEAL!
>>70234725
>fiat currency in 1930's
It really is nonstop comedy here.
>>70234521
This.
Do we look to the past; A world of division and tribalism?
Or do we look to the future, a risky world where control is given to others we trust in the hope of efficiency arising from unity of all.
>>70231039
Jim Webb is a left wing politician.
>>70234172
>voting for Cruz
>thinks Zionism is bad
Choose one
>>70229041
I would turn her into a fullblown nazi after just one night with her
>>70234889
I apologize, I was thinking of two different things and confused what FDR did and what Wilson did, amounting to several errors in that post. Please disregard anything currency related in that post.
>>70232573
Thanks for the pasta
>>70235510
Too late. But you knew that didn't you you cheeky cunt? :^)
>>70229041
Well for starters.
The leftists are the goverment.
The leftists want to destroy what took 2000 years to build and even remove it from history.
Europe will be diverse, or war! - Frans Timmermans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q94syUDDhxA
Alt right is anti goverment.
Alt right want to defend europa from invasion.
Alt right want more press freedom.
Alt right want to take control of our history books back from the jews.
>>70229041
Some conservatives a brainwashed. Others are not
see>>70231902
Retards like him are how people see us
see>>70230766
This is how we are (or were, before a bunch trump supporters decided to invade this board)
>>70235774
Quoted the wrong post
This is the retard
>>70229217
>>70229041
SAUCE NAU PLZ TY SENPAI
>>70232573
well, western civilization has actually been build by secular/irreligious people aka scientists
How could the left be right? Look at Europe!
Easy test.
1) Is the person in the pic, a woman?
2) Are you afraid of chalk?
3) Do you think that drunken regret sex is rape?
4) Do you believe that someone who sneaks into a country should get the same benefits as people born there?
5) Do black lives matter more than white lives?
6) Are whites the only race it is ok to hate?
7) Is it ok to punish or hinder white men socially and by policy, in order to even the playing field with other groups?
8)Do you think the government should forcibly take money from richer people and give it to economically disadvantaged people?
9)Do you think that you should be forgiven your debts you willingly incurred just because you want them to be forgiven?
10)Would seeing certain written words, or a celebrity's name in print, make you tremble and faint?
11)Do you think that it is ok to intimidate voters against candidates you don't like, even though voter intimidation is a crime?
12)Do you think that blocking roadways and restraining travelers against their will is 'peaceful' protesting?
13)Should people choose their own gender?
14)Should white cultures be abolished?
15)Is 'furry' a sexual orientation?
16)Should citizens of other countries be able to vote in US elections?
17)Is there any such thing as a queer genderfluid pansexual fem-presenting starkin?
18)Do you think that if people own more than one home, they can only live in one at a time, so they should have to give up their second home to homeless people?
19)Is Islam a religion of peace?
20)Is a 40 year old refugee, really a teenager just because he has no papers with him?
You get the idea.
The more you answer 'no', the more sane you are.
>>70229041
bruh
>>70229041
because statistics tend to clash with the liberal ideals. liberals want more diversity, statistics say more diversity leads to lower quality of life, more crime, less cohesive communities, etc. just one example. statistics don't cover everything but they apply to a lot of things.
>>70229041
Perfect boobies.
>>70229041
Well anon, one side believes in discussing issues to their fullest extent.
The other side believes in complete silence of the opposition.
These are the only 2 real facts you can draw about liberals/democrats and republicans/conservatives.
The blue side has always been about silencing the competition. Recent examples:
>are you kidding
>that's racist
>hate speech
>safe spaces
>we need to shutdown x
>how to get a racist fired
Right-wing types might not believe in a certain ideology, but they'll at least discuss it.
Left-wing wants to yell the loudest, and drown out ANY lines of thought but their own.
It's the reason I've become more right-wing over the years. I just want to actually talk about things, which you can't even do among other liberals in liberal echo chambers.
>>70236078
Literally it takes two seconds to click the arrow next to the post and reverse google search and you would have found out it was Chelsie Aryn
newfags >>>/out/
>>70229681
>>70234172
it's true though you retard. but of course you wouldn't know that, you'll just continue considering yourself redpilled without actually making an effort to be.
>>70236154
Let Black Science Man explain why good scientist vote Republican
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7Q8UvJ1wvk
>>70229041
liberals the ones that misrepresent statistics, make excuses for why statistics are they way they are etc.
their beliefs aren't backed up by science or data, they have to make up wildly ridiculous sociological theories to believe what they do.
>>70237195
>to believe what they do
such as? give me one example
>>70233750
This
>>70229041
The redpill is not about left vs right.
the redpill is recognizing that propaganda and brainwashing are real things,
and realizing that if you don't take the time to very information and form your own opinion on things you are vulnerable.
liberals can be redpilled.
if someone looks at verifiable information and concludes that in their opinion liberal policies are the best for society then they are still redpilled.
A redpilled individual has factual basis for their opinions and political stances, and can use said information to defend their position in political debates
>>70229041
Because they make decisions based on feelings and we make decisions based on statistics, right?
