>we wuz crusades and sheit
>>70227936
>Implying the rest of the world was even marginally close to that
On the larger point I agree, religious nutballery should have gone a long time ago.
>>70227936
That isn't really factually correct. We didn't really lose technology in the dark ages, we just really slowed down the rate of advancement.
>arbitrary graph
>leaf
Everything checks out.
>muh dark ages maymay
athiests are the biggest cucks
>>70227936
>a graph without units
Wow, how fucking exciting
>>70227936
>Christian dark ages
More like germanic dark ages.
The roman empire was christian before the eternal nordic started to attack them.
>>70228170
>Books were burned
>People were burned alive
>We just slowed down
Religion and denial, can't have one without the other.
>>70227936
>what was the fall of the Roman Empire
Christendom was the only thing that preserved the legacy of Rome.
>>70227936
>stupid fedora maymay from the year 2003
>not a shitpost
right
>>70227936
I can use MS paint graphs too.
Catholics discovered most of modern science you fucking mongoloid
>>70228562
Well to start off, I'm actually an atheist, so I'll reiterate. We didn't lose any knowledge, we just really slowed down the rate of advancement. Monasteries played a big role in preserving said knowledge.
>>70227936
STOP IT WITH THIS MEME
CHRISTIAN SCHOLARS AND MONKS ARE ONE OF THE ONLY REASONS WE HAD ANY KIND OF TECHNOLOGICAL PROGRESS OR RETAINED ANY KNOWLEDGE BACK THEN
THEY LITERALLY SAVED KNOWLEDGE FROM MUSLIM FUNDAMENTALISTS WHO WOULD DESTROY HARAM KNOWLEDGE, EVEN THOUGH THE ISLAM WORLD WAS IN ITS GOLDEN AGE OF CULTURE AND SCIENCE
THEY LITERALLY SAVED KNOWLEDGE FROM LITERALLY ANYONE THAT WOULD TRY TO DESTROY IT
FUCK OFF
>>70227936
The Christian scum will actually defend this
The only thing really lost was Calculus
Other than that things more or less slowed down, plus crossbows were better than anything Rome ever had, same with trebuchet's and even early canons
>>70227936
Because of this 'down' in scientologic research, people were more interested in science again. So the gray graph of what it could have been is not correct. In the end, the lack or science was the reason for this enormous boost in the age of enlightenment
>>70227936
>a leaf
>>70227936
never knew you could measure technological advancement. Wow this graph is so great
>>70227936
That's not how advancement works and those "christian dark ages" were caused by the fucking Muslims.
>>70228780
This.
Also I don't the Scientific Advancement is a quantifiable measurement. That chart is all fucked up.
Ah yeah, the good old Dark Ages meme.
https://youtu.be/3hwrSE5DZrQ
>>70227936
A lot of important inventions were discovered only by accident - how likely is it that the exact one would occur in another timeline?
Daily reminder that our best and brightest were handpicked to study and become ministers, and our ministers couldn't have kids.
The reason whites have lower IQs than asians despite being in a harsher climate could be explained by this.
>>70227936
>We could have been exploring the galaxy by now
>>70228728
We did lose some but it wasn't because of Christians as it was Christian monks who preserved a vast amount of it. It was Muslims who burned Alexandria and the Mongols who destroyed Baghdad.
>>70227936
Ho, right. I always forgot we de-invented almost everything during the dark ages
We aren't ready for high tech now, what makes you think we would have been ready for it then? Christianity is the only reason we're still around today.
how does one quantify one unit of scientific advancement?
>>70227936
>>70227936
Eyeglasses alone were worth at least 1500 Megasciences, this graph is inaccurate!
>>70227936
Atheist here
You're a fucking retard
>>70227936
Humanity advanced too fast anyways even with the Dark Ages
We were not ready for mass communication
>>70229496
a lot of knowledge was lost and had to be rediscovered.
>>70229909
It wasn't lost because of Christians. It was lost because of the fall of the Roman Empire in the West and the Muslim invasions.
>>70229909
like what?
Honestly what super-advanced shit did the romans have that we just "lost" after the fall of the empire due to christian anti-sciencey?
>>70227936
Nice b8 image you absolute faggot
>>70227936
Fuck off, dark ages were Pagan. When the Middle Ages came Christians advanced society yet again.
Or was the Renaissance atheist or Muslim?
>>70227936
Daily reminder that it was the Church that built Colleges and Universities and advanced knowledge during the Dark Ages.
>>70228562
as if monks weren't that time's keepers of wisdom and knowledge.
>>70228199
this and they get so butthurt when religion is mentioned.
>muh singularity
>>70227936
fix'd
>>70228562
we also de-forested huge parts of central europe and made it farmland, we built countless new cities, we discovered new methods for metallurgy and started to pass all civilizations that were somehow at an advantage for not being held back by christianity by your logic.
Seriously before those dark ages the romans were just at the level of the chinese or even behind in a lot of areas.
afterwards we were pretty much solidified at the top
>>70230670
Strange that the drop off comes about right around the birth of Muhammed.
>>70227936
>Middle Ages didn't invent anything: Glasses, quarantine, universities, mechanical clocks, Gothic architecture, plate armor, and agricultural developments can go fuck itself.
Fuck you.
>>70230022
The Helenic world had achieved a state of desinterested scientific enquiry that took a while to come back.
Your asking for gadgets but that's not how civilization works. We don't even know who "invented" gunpowder.
The Romans had a sound legal system, that is still pretty much ours.
But they were also incredibly degenerate, it seems that they lost their sense of the greater good.
We wouldn't be flying cars by now without Cristianity,
everybody would have killed each other on the first millenium.
The burden of Civilization would have been on the Hindu world.
>>70228985
Its Le Fedora Science maymay graph TM from Leafland
>>70228562
Requesting that canada "here he goes again" pasta
>>70229709
You add eye of newt, and toe of frog, wool of bat, and tongue of dog and hey presto! One leaf erg of science advancementz
>>70227936
>it's a canadian shitposting episodes
>>70231375
They had to relearn agricultural concepts lost to the west with the fall of rome
>>70231709
The Hellenes were theoretically much advanced on the Romans, however a great deal of it (just like with Leonardo's inventions) wasn't practically realized, e.g. Heron's steam engine. The Romans were more systematic in applying advances in engineering for example. And the Byzantines didn't lose much in the way of ancient learning (unfortunately they did lose a lot of Archimedes which was tragic). They didn't need to have ancient knowledge transmitted to them via Arabic since they were native Greek speakers. It was only the west that underwent a barbarous age, but Germanics were actually advancing throughout this period, whilst retaining a fair bit of their barbaric warlike strength
>>70227936
Is any post on this board not bait
>>70231375
What about Byzantine architecture, Byzantine chant, Byzantine frescoes, Greek fire, cannons, stained glass, Giotto, Josquin des Prez, Dante and Boethius?
>>70233670
Is anybody able to logically refute claims on this board and present valid arguments or is every response just a whingey faggot unable to form a coherent retort?
>>70227936
More like germanic dark ages
>>70227936
(You)
>>70228170
>Romans advanced construction so much they were building aqueducts and multi-storied buildings with concrete like it was a joke
>Greeks advanced medicine so much they were performing cancer removing surgery on peoples HEADS
>Slowed down
Nah they went backwards full throttle
Middle ages goons didnt even poo in loo
It is going to happen again, with Islam this time around
Honest question: Why do school skip over the medieval ages? So much of the mistakes we have about history are over during the medieval ages. Alot of our current rhetoric is based to demonizing people's beliefs and way of life during the medieval age, so actually learning about it would help clear that up.
Furthermore, the medieval age is incredibly interesting, as it was the time where most of modern European countries were born from such as France, Portugal, Denmark, Sweden, England, Ireland, etc.
I think if we're took take seriously of pushing people off of the "progressive" bandwagon, we need to start attacking their rhetoric and their hisotoriography. Get off of feminist, Whig and Enlightenment historiography and establish one anew.
>>70227936
>meme graph without data
>>70234148
Literally John "dip my Cheerios in cum" Green history fuck off
>>70227936
F(c)uck nigger, im athiest and i know thats wrong. Do a little research before you blindly believe some meme that didnt come from us.
If its our meme you can believe it instantly
>dark meme magicians
>>70234148
Go away chinaman.
>>70227936
That's very ethnocentric. I'm calling the racist police.
>>70234148
So killing pagans and removing protestants and removing Muslims is a bad thing? Stupid kike.
>implyin technological advancement is more important than moral,religious advancements.
>>70234693
Holy shit, I have ******never******* seen someone being this blown the fuck out
I just screencapped it and submitted to r/4chan and it's trending right now
>>70233819
No one cares about the Byzantine Empire, the modern countries that occupied were non-white people.
>>70227936
>A FUCKING LEAF
This thread again?
>>70228562
>universities were created
>discoveries were made
>books were copied and preserved
>progress has stopped
Cucknada at it again
>The enlightenment was merely rediscovering the lost knowledge of the firs century
>>70228876
But there was literally NO lack of science, except in the centuries immediately following the fall of Rome. From about the year 1000 on, this is simply a dirty lie.
>>70227936
>scientific advance
WE WUZ SCIENTIZT
seriously faggot, go kill yourself
>>70228562
>monks are bad people now
>>70234761
>>70236314
Thank you very much for that meme.
![2q0BEYh[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/WlSFsV2.png "2q0BEYh[1].png")
>>70227936
>>70228562
>Christianity was the cause of the dark ages
>Christianity
>not paganism, atheism, and/or agnostism
When will this meme end? I know you're from dudeweedland and are required by law to be a massive fucking cuck, and all you can do is repeat whatever bullshit nonsense you heard from Reddit, but this needs to fucking stop. It's misinformation and frankly an insult to your fucking ancestors who fought desperately to spread the word of Christ and protect extremely rare and vital knowledge from hordes of barbarians, you disgusting subhuman. If you didn't have Christians guarding your communities, you and your shitty cuck line would have been wiped out, you ungrateful jizz stain.
The audacity of atheists is astounding. How dare you insult the very religion that laid the foundation for your society? May God have mercy on your soul.
>>70227936
nice try trudeau
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>>70228191
>told that the dark ages were detrimental to modern scientific advancement
>hernias form around the world
come on guys, I thought we made fun of tumblr because all they did was whine and bitch when presented with something they didn't like. You can't talk shit about them and do the same thing!
>>70234821
>cuck
>>70238461
>le ebin "anti-sjws are just as bad as sjws" meme
Thanks Paco
Because scientific advancement is a measurable unit.
>>70227936
The explosion in European civilization had a genetic catalyst,this image neglects that. Civilization was confined to small bubbles of peoples in Egypt,Greece and Rome. Europe wasn't ready yet at this time. But a few famines,diseases and the black death(1/2 of population culled) later the eugenics had been sufficient and European man was ready.
>>70238461
>when presented with something they didn't like.
the difference is that OP's post is factually incorrect while tumblr gets triggered by facts.
Without the bible would Guttenberg be interested in mass producing books?
>>70238636
>le "someone pointing out that you're acting like sjw cunts means he's immediately labeling any active opponent to sjw just as bad as sjw's
thanks, uhh, does Denmark even have a meme/name?
>>70227936
The anti science aspect of Christianity was really the only bad part, the fact that this one religion made Euros drop their polytheistic autism and focus more on their nations instead of their gods was great. Now if only the middle east was Christian.
/r/skyfairy got you covered senpai
>>70238710
you can't necessarily say that european iq wasn't already sufficiently high before the eugenic extension of malthusian conditions during the dark ages.
the dark ages were caused by a combination of things, barbarians in the capital, arab takeover of trade routes and raiding coastal settlements, forcing europeans to hide in the fucking mountains for 500 years, etc.
while iq undoubtedly increased further during this time, the explosion is equally likely to have been caused by the advance of technology to the point where tech could finally beat cavalry, which was well before steam power.
>>70239032
>someone pointing out that you're acting like sjw cunts means he's immediately labeling any active opponent to sjw just as bad as sjw's
>You can't talk shit about them and do the same thing!
>exact same thing
Okay
>tfw you're about to head into the islamic dark ages
>>70227936
I don't get it are you just a shill?
> Why the same shit so often??
>>70227936
YEAH NIGGU, WE WUD BE SPACEMEN N SHIET IF IT WAZNT FO' DOSE KRISTIAN CRACKAS
>>70239128
Typical nigger. You know nothing of history. The Middle East WAS Christian. And The Catholic Church was not anti-science you faggot.
>>70239515
I would highly recommend you reading "The 10,000 year explosion: How civilization accelerated human evolution" to get an insight into the sheer rate of change and how human evolution has worked. You cannot deny the black death,a plague killing 1/2 the population of Europe would be a huge eugenics event and is without a doubt the catalyst for the renaissance.
>>70230285
As if monks were that numerous in the dark ages.
There was philosophy classes all over rome/athens the common folk could attend wile to be a monk you had to already be from a rich family.
So maybe 1 monk for 10 000 person had knowledge and could read compared to 40% of Athenian population
Maybe monks kept knowledge but they never improved it anyway.
>>70240267
"English researchers compared skulls from people who died in the Black Death[650 years ago] to the crew of the Mary Rose,a ship that sank in Tudor times[450 years ago] finding a noticeable change in skull shape over the time period. The height of the cranial vault was about 15% larger in our contemporaries
https://books.google.ie/books?id=IeUWBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA95&lpg=PA95&dq=mary+rose+skulls+black+death&source=bl&ots=qpkVE2awGq&sig=ssLt8_9ErQNXA6rSW6SbrrLyHGY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwin8e2llv3LAhXFuw8KHb5iDgcQ6AEIIjAB#v=onepage&q=mary%20rose%20skulls%20black%20death&f=false
>>70227936
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqzq01i2O3U&nohtml5=False
What?
>>70227936
ITT: People who don't know shit about history.
When will this "dark ages when nothing happened" meme die off?
>>70227936
>fall of the roman empire
>rise of islam
>"christian dark ages"
k
>>70240267
already read it. but the black death was only 500 years ago, AND on top of it, did not necessarily select based on intelligence.
obviously the black plague increased intelligence. malthusian conditions DO select for intelligence.
but in what capacity, and was iq the prime missing element for previous euro civilization?
all signs point to the fact that when europeans finally had the power to KILL ARABS, it allowed the anglos to develop free trade and economic doctrine, which led to the development of science, which single handedly propelled europe to conquer the world. that wasn't caused purely by iq.
>>70227936
YOU SEES WE WUZ SCIENTIS N SHEEIT BEFO WHITEY CAME AND KILLED ALL THE SCIENCE NIGGERS AND BURNED ALL SCIENCE THINGS.
>>70228824
>Christian scum
Do you actually hear yourself, you hateful little cunt?
Christians are the most loving, kind, and generous people on earth.
They shouldn't be. People like you are taking advantage of them to destroy and pervert the culture of this nation.
>>70240849
When we stop letting liberals, fags, and kikes teach our kids
>>70235147
You missed out that religion was instrumental in the spread of literacy among non-nobles
>>70227936
>Exploring the galaxy.
Canada's space research budget = 0
>>70227936
Oh look, this graph again.
>>70228824
>retards will actually defend a line graph that measures "scientific advancement"
