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>Socialism doesn't work

Cuba has one of the best health care systems in the world according to WHO (rated higher than NZ)

http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

Also one of the best education systems in the world

http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2015/02/how-education-shaped-communist-cuba/386192/

Also has one of the highest literacy rates in the world (99.8%)

http://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/cuba_statistics.html

Also has the 12th highest Happy Planet Index in the world

http://www.happyplanetindex.org/countries/cuba/

And I can go on and on.

Stay mad, class cuck.
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Move to cuba then.
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Also has largely eradicted poverty and hunger

https://www.wfp.org/countries/cuba
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>>70217491
Cuba is also a 3rd world country
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>>70217491
oy vey, you triggered my trap card

Haha, you're either naive or deliberately sowing propaganda

here are some quotes from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Cuba, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba, you can go there to see the references

The Cuban government has been accused of numerous human rights abuses including torture, arbitrary imprisonment, unfair trials, and extrajudicial executions (also known as "El Paredón").

Human Rights Watch has stated that the government "represses nearly all forms of political dissent" and that "Cubans are systematically denied basic rights to free expression, association, assembly, privacy, movement, and due process of law"

In 2003, the European Union (EU) accused the Cuban government of "continuing flagrant violation of human rights and fundamental freedoms".[129] The United States continues an embargo against Cuba "so long as it continues to refuse to move toward democratization and greater respect for human rights"

CUBA HAD THE SECOND-HIGHEST NUMBER OF IMPRISONED JOURNALISTS OF ANY NATION IN 2008 (CHINA HAD THE HIGHEST) ACCORDING TO VARIOUS SOURCES, INCLUDING THE COMMITTEE TO PROTECT JOURNALISTS AND HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH.

Cuban dissidents face arrest and imprisonment. In the 1990s, Human Rights Watch reported that Cuba's extensive prison system, one of the largest in Latin America, consists of 40 maximum-security prisons, 30 minimum-security prisons, and over 200 work camps.[136] According to Human Rights Watch, Cuba's prison population is confined in "substandard and unhealthy conditions, where prisoners face physical and sexual abuse."

At the end of 2012, tens of thousands of Cuban medical personnel worked abroad,[152] with as many as 30,000 doctors in Venezuela alone via the two countries' oil-for-doctors programme.[153]

The average monthly wage as of July 2013 is 466 Cuban pesos, which are worth about US$19
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After the Cuban revolution and before the collapse of the Soviet Union, Cuba depended on Moscow for substantial aid and sheltered markets for its exports. The removal of these subsidies sent the Cuban economy into a rapid depression known in Cuba as the Special Period. Cuba took limited FREE MARKET-ORIENTED measures to alleviate severe shortages of food, consumer goods, and services.

Venezuela supplies Cuba with an estimated 110,000 barrels (17,000 m3) a day of oil in exchange for money and the services of some 44,000 Cubans, most of them medical personnel, in Venezuela.[180] Estimates place Venezuelan assistance at over 20% of the Cuban GDP for 2008–2010, similar to the aid flows from the Soviet Union in 1985–1988

In 2005 Cuba had exports of $2.4 billion, ranking 114 of 226 world countries, and imports of $6.9 billion, ranking 87 of 226 countries - EXPORTS??? Sounds a bit capitalist, doesn't it

On August 2, 2011, The New York Times reported Cuba as reaffirming their intent to legalize "buying and selling" of private property before the year's end. According to experts, the private sale of property could "transform Cuba more than any of the economic reforms announced by President Raúl Castro's government".[190] It will cut more than one million state jobs, including party bureaucrats who resist the changes.[191] The new economic reforms effectively created a new economic system, referred by some as the "New Cuban Economy". - capitalism?

Contacts between foreign visitors and ordinary Cubans were de facto illegal between 1992 and 1997

Cuba has tripled its market share of Caribbean tourism in the last decade - Capitalism?

the population began to decline in 2006, with a fertility rate of 1.43 children per woman.[213] - 2.11 is the sustainable fertility rate, so they are shrinking by about a quarter per generation

Indeed, this drop in fertility is among the largest in the Western Hemisphere,[214]
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Post-revolution Cuba has been characterized by significant levels of emigration, which has led to a large and influential diaspora community. During the three decades after January 1959, more than one million Cubans of all social classes — constituting 10% of the total population — emigrated to the United States, a proportion that matches the extent of emigration to the U.S. from the Caribbean as a whole during that period.[223][224][225][226][227] Other common destinations include Spain, the United Kingdom, Canada, Mexico, and Sweden, among others. Those who left the country typically did so by sea, in small boats and fragile rafts. Between 30,000 and 80,000 Cubans are estimated to have died trying to flee Cuba - it's such a great place that 10% of the population left, even using rafts to escape

In 1986 a "Tribunal on Cuba" was held in Paris to present testimonies by former prisoners of Cuba's penal system to the international media. The gathering was sponsored by Resistance International and The Coalition of Committees for the Rights of Man in Cuba. The testimonies presented at the tribunal, before an international panel, alleged a pattern of torture in Cuba's prisons and "hard labor camps". These included beatings, biological experiments in diet restrictions, violent interrogations and extremely unsanitary conditions. The jury concurred with allegations of arbitrary arrests; sentencing by court martial with neither public audience nor defense; periods in hard labour camps without sufficient food, clothes and medical care; and the arrests of children over nine years old.[24]
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Although Cuba has been politically connected to the Soviet Union since the United States broke off relations with Cuba shortly after the president Fidel Castro came to power in 1959, few considerable allegations regarding the political abuse of psychiatry in this country emerged before the late 1980s.[25]:74 Americas Watch and Amnesty International published reports alluding to cases of possible unwarranted hospitalization and ill-treatment of political prisoners.[25]:75 These reports concerned the Gustavo Machin hospital in Santiago de Cuba in the southeast of the country and the major mental hospital in Havana.[25]:75 In 1977, a report on alleged abuse of psychiatry in Cuba presenting cases of ill-treatment in mental hospitals going back to the 1970s came out in the United States.[25]:75 It presents grave allegations that prisoners end up in the forensic ward of mental hospitals in Santiago de Cuba and Havana where they undergo ill-treatment including electroconvulsive therapy without muscle relaxants or anaesthesia.[25]:75 The reported application of ECT in the forensic wards seems, at least in many of the cited cases, not to be an adequate clinical treatment for the diagnosed state of the prisoner—in some cases the prisoners seem not to have been diagnosed at all.[25]:75 Conditions in the forensic wards have been described in repulsive terms and apparently are in striking contrast to the other parts of the mental hospitals that are said to be well-kept and modern.

A 2009 report by Human Rights Watch concluded that "Raúl Castro has kept Cuba’s repressive machinery firmly in place...since being handed power by his brother Fidel Castro."[26] The report found that "[s]cores of political prisoners arrested under Fidel continue to languish in prison, and Raúl has used draconian laws and sham trials to incarcerate scores more who have dared to exercise their fundamental rights."
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Freedom House classifies Cuba as being "Not Free",[27] and notes that "Cuba is the only country in the Americas that consistently makes Freedom House’s list of the Worst of the Worst: the World’s Most Repressive Societies for widespread abuses of political rights and civil liberties."[28]

A 1999 Human Rights Watch report notes that the Interior Ministry has principal responsibility for monitoring the Cuban population for signs of dissent.[29] In 1991 two new mechanisms for internal surveillance and control emerged. Communist Party leaders organized the Singular Systems of Vigilance and Protection (Sistema Unico de Vigilancia y Protección, SUVP). Rapid Action Brigades (Brigadas de Acción Rapida, also referred to as Rapid Response Brigades, or Brigadas de Respuesta Rápida) observe and control dissidents.[29] THE GOVERNMENT ALSO "MAINTAINS ACADEMIC AND LABOR FILES (EXPEDIENTES ESCOLARES Y LABORALES) FOR EACH CITIZEN, IN WHICH OFFICIALS RECORD ACTIONS OR STATEMENTS THAT MAY BEAR ON THE PERSON'S LOYALTY TO THE REVOLUTION. BEFORE ADVANCING TO A NEW SCHOOL OR POSITION, THE INDIVIDUAL'S RECORD MUST FIRST BE DEEMED ACCEPTABLE

CUBA'S RANKING WAS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE PRESS FREEDOM INDEX 2008 COMPILED BY THE REPORTERS WITHOUT BORDERS (RWB).[4] CUBA WAS NAMED ONE OF THE TEN MOST CENSORED COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD BY THE COMMITTEE TO PROTECT JOURNALISTS.[33]

Media is operated under the supervision of the Communist Party's Department of Revolutionary Orientation, which "develops and coordinates propaganda strategies".[33]
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The Inter-American Commission on Human Rights assess that: "It is evident that the exercise of the right to freedom of expression under this article of the Constitution is governed by two fundamental determinants: on the one hand, the preservation and strengthening of the communist State; on the other, the need to muzzle any criticism of the group in power."[34] Human rights group Amnesty International assert that the universal state ownership of the media means that freedom of expression is restricted. Thus the exercise of the right to freedom of expression is restricted by the lack of means of mass communication falling outside state control.[35] Human Rights Watch states: "Refusing to recognize human rights monitoring as a legitimate activity, the government denies legal status to local human rights groups. Individuals who belong to these groups face systematic harassment, with the government putting up obstacles to impede them from documenting human rights conditions. In addition, international human rights groups such as Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International are barred from sending fact-finding missions to Cuba. It remains one of the few countries in the world to deny the International Committee of the Red Cross access to its prisons

Foreign journalists are systematically expelled from Cuba, e.g. notable journalists of New Left Gazeta Wyborcza, Anna Bikont and Seweryn Blumsztahn, were expelled in 2005.
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Human Rights Watch states that "freedom of assembly is severely restricted in Cuba, and political dissidents are generally prohibited from meeting in large groups.[36] Amnesty states that "All human rights, civil and professional associations and unions that exist today in Cuba outside the officialdom of the state apparatus and mass organizations controlled by the government are barred from having legal status. This often puts at risk the individuals who belong to these associations of facing harassment, intimidation or criminal charges for activities which constitute the legitimate exercise of the fundamental freedoms of expression, association and assembly

In 2001 an attempt was made by Oswaldo Payá Sardiñas and others from the Christian Liberation Movement, operating as the Varela Project, to have a national plebiscite using provisions in the Constitution of Cuba which provided for citizen initiative. If accepted by the government and approved by public vote, the amendments would have established such things as freedom of association, freedom of speech, freedom of press, as well as starting private businesses. The petition was refused by the National Assembly and in response a referendum was held in support of socialism being a permanent fixture of the constitution, for which the government claimed 99% voter approval.

Human rights groups including Amnesty International have long been critical of what the Cuban authorities have termed "Acts of repudiation" (actos de repudio). These acts occur when large groups of citizens verbally abuse, intimidate and sometimes physically assault and throw stones and other objects at homes of Cubans considered to be counter-revolutionary. Human rights groups suspect that these acts are often carried out in collusion with the security forces and sometimes involve the Committees for the Defence of the Revolution or the Rapid Response Brigades. The level of violence of these acts have increased significantly since 2003
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>>70217491
Funny that we never see boatloads of people drowning or getting chowed by sharks while trying to get into that socialist paradise.
Never mind oz, carry on
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Prior to January 13, 2013, Cuban citizens could not leave or return to Cuba without first obtaining official permission, which was sometimes denied.[51] Unauthorized travel abroad had sometimes resulted in criminal prosecution. It was common, in those days, that certain citizens who were authorized travel (primarily medical personnel and other professionals deemed essential to the country) were not permitted to take their children with them overseas. In the event that Cuban doctors defect to the United States when they are sent to a "mission" out of Cuba to any foreign country, any children left behind would not be allowed to join their defector parent for a minimum of ten years, even if they had received a foreign visa, and regardless of their age

EVEN DISCUSSING ABOUT UNAUTHORIZED TRAVEL CARRIED A SIX-MONTH PRISON SENTENCE

On July 13, 1994, 72 Cubans attempted to leave the Island on a World War II era tugboat named the 13 de Marzo. In an attempt by the Cuban Navy to stop the tugboat, patrol boats were sent out to intercept the tug. Crewmen and survivors reported that the interception vessels rammed the tugboat and sprayed its passengers with high-pressure fire hoses, sweeping many overboard.

Education in Cuba is normally free at all levels and controlled by the Ministry for Education. In 1961 the government nationalized all private educational institutions and introduced a state-directed education system. The system has been criticized for political indoctrination and for monitoring the political opinions of the students. It has also been criticized for prohibiting any private alternatives to the state-directed education system and for limiting the power of parents to influence their children's education.
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STRONG IDEOLOGICAL CONTENT IS PRESENT. The constitution states that educational and cultural policy is based on Marxism.[53] A FILE IS KEPT ON CHILDREN'S "REVOLUTIONARY INTEGRATION" AND IT ACCOMPANIES THE CHILD FOR LIFE. UNIVERSITY OPTIONS WILL DEPEND ON HOW WELL THE PERSON IS INTEGRATED TO MARXIST IDEOLOGY. THE CODE FOR CHILDREN, YOUTH AND FAMILY STATES THAT A PARENT WHO TEACHES IDEAS CONTRARY TO COMMUNISM CAN BE SENTENCED TO THREE YEARS IN PRISON.

Healthcare in Cuba is also free.

However, THERE IS NO RIGHT TO PRIVACY, OR A PATIENT'S INFORMED CONSENT, OR THE RIGHT TO PROTEST OR SUE A DOCTOR OR CLINIC FOR MALPRACTICE.[54][55] MOREOVER, THE PATIENT DOES NOT HAVE RIGHT TO REFUSE TREATMENT (for example, a Rastafarian cannot refuse an amputation on grounds that his religion forbids it.)[54][55] Many Cubans complain about politics in medical treatment and health care decision-making.[54]

After spending nine months in Cuban clinics, Katherine Hirschfeld asked in her paper "My increased awareness of Cuba’s criminalization of dissent raised a very provocative question: TO WHAT EXTENT IS THE FAVORABLE INTERNATIONAL IMAGE OF THE CUBAN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM MAINTAINED BY THE STATE’S PRACTICE OF SUPPRESSING DISSENT AND COVERTLY INTIMIDATING OR IMPRISONING WOULD-BE CRITICS?"[54]

Family doctors are expected to keep records of patients "political integration".[55] Epidemiological surveillance has become juxtaposed with political surveillance.

Wow, what a utopia
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Cuba literacy rate: 99.8%

America: 97%

Cuba poverty rate: 1.5%

America poverty rate: 14.5%

MUH FREE MARKET
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>>70217491
>Cuba has one of the best health care systems in the world according to WHO (rated higher than NZ)

You get the best only if you're in the Party.


>Also one of the best education systems in the world

See pic related. Cuba's """best education""" produces less science than the fuckin' Falklands.

>Also has the 12th highest Happy Planet Index in the world

So 11 capitalists hellholes are happier ?


>Also has one of the highest literacy rates in the world (99.8%)

So like the whole western capitalist world ?
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Forgot pic.
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Typical hospital room in Cuba
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>>70218320
>Implying you are considered poor when you get 1.5$ a day in Cuba.
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>>70218436
>cuban healthcare
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>>70217491

The best part about Cuba is the universal secondary education. Where else can I find a postgrad that has to work as a prostitute so she can buy shit off the black market?
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>>70217849
Communism doesnt forbid tourism, exporting and so on

>>70217491
>Cuba has one of the best health care systems in the world according to WHO
Only for the elite and the foreigners

>Also one of the best education systems in the world
>Also has one of the highest literacy rates in the world
Education != Adoctrination

>Also has the 12th highest Happy Planet Index in the world
So 11 capitalist countries are better, no?

Move to Cuba if you are so sure that is that good
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>>70217491
2 million Cubans and Cuban Americans live in the United States out of a population of 13 million
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>>70217491
Fuck Cuba. We can blame Cuba for Cruz, and Rubio.
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>>70217491
Look guys it's another bait thread only here to slide actual content!
NOBODY CARES SOCIALISM IS INFERIOR AND ALWAYS WILL BE
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>>70223013
>Communism doesnt forbid tourism, exporting and so on
aaah, capitalism is fine when done by the state? just not by the people?

one rule for you and another for me?

how hypocritical
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>>70217491
Cuba is a shithole btw
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>>70217653
55 years of sanctions
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>>70224044
30 years of Soviet subsidies
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>>70224178
I knew a guy from cuba
a lot of young ppl used to go work in the ussr for 5-10 years, and that was your wealth retirement money. it's a very poor country. but now the sanctions are over and would mater anyway
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>>70224612
wouldn't* mater anyway
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>>70217491
Cuba isn't socialist, it's communist.
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fucking lying sacks of shit

they're lucky their readers in the west are brainwashed idiots or ppl would laugh at them
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>>70226381
canada is the 3rd largest, where's my bugatti?
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>>70217491

Cuba's a small pond bruh
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>>70217491
>tfw youre the grandchild of cuban americans that fled in the 60's because communism is shit.
>tfw all 4 grandparents hate leftist faggots and are redpilled as far as old ppl go.
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>>70227745
A lot of 1st gen Cubans and former-soviets that fled their respective countries tend to be like that, from what I've observed.

Not so much the Chinese for some reason.
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>>70226641
>Thinking you are going to be rich just for nothing
This is the average socialist voter thinking

>>70226381
People is truly brainwashed, you cant imagine how much. There is a lot of people in Spain that believe that the Left (Socialism/Communism...) is good and the Right is the evil. Its been a lot of years of adoctrination and shit like that is nearly an axiom
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>>70228046
>Not so much the Chinese for some reason.
>Wanting to be executed if you return home
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>>70226641
Being Driven by uncle Sam
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>>70227745
oh shit same.

RIP grandpa.
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