Can someone explain why this is oppressive?
>>70216924
?
shouldn't that be standart everywhere?
germany would be fucked if we didn't need an id to vote
>>70216924
AM I BEING DETAINED?
>>70217415
AM I FREE TO GO?
>>70216924
In some states it can cost between 30-40 dollars to get an ID or drivers license printed and in large cities it's nothing but a hassle.
States usually also combine these measure with things like shorter times for polls to be open, having them on hours when wage workers are at work, under staffing the polls, et cetera. Just look at what happened in Arizona. Are you saying that isn't voter suppression?
>>70216924
It's like you don't even have a clue about what year it is.
>>70217586
30-40 dollarydoos? That's not that much. If you can't drive then you can get a passport which is around the same cost where I live.
>>70217415
I AM A FREE INHABITANT. HELP OPPRESSION RAPE.
>>70216924
Probably because """undocumented citizens""" wont be able to vote
>>70217774
Passports are a lot more expensive. You're forgetting that for a passport you need specific sized photos, which are overpriced.
>>70217586
You literally have years to get your ID before an election though. Are you saying that 30-40 dollars and two hours at the DMV sometime in the years between elections is a terrible financial/time burden?
I get where you're coming from with the polls not being open long enough and being understaffed though, the lines can be brutal here. Fortunately my employer lets us kick off two hours early on election days so we have more than enough time to do our civic duty.
Still not seeing how flashing my ID is voter suppression though. It takes almost no time and I have to do it for something as trivial as buying a case of beer, why shouldn't I have to do it to make sure I'm eligible to elect our leaders?
>>70216924
doesn't like every country in Europe require voter ID?
i mean come on, it's 2016 people, the rest of the modern world does this.
Because it "oppresses" black people..
>>70216924
Because illegals don't have ID's
>>70217408
The argument is that if you're really poor, you may find it difficult to scrounge together the money for a photo ID or the time/effort to go to an office where you can get one (because Pennsylvania gave non-driver photo IDs for free to try to head off the cost argument). In the end Judge overturned it saying it infringed on the rights of those too lazy to get IDs basically.
>>70218273
>Are you saying that 30-40 dollars and two hours at the DMV sometime in the years between elections is a terrible financial/time burden?
This is the case that judges have made in many liberal states and why Pennyslyvania's voter ID law was struck down.
>>70219087
if people can vote without id there is no control.. people could vote more than 1 time or... refugess could vote and this would benefit as an example merkel who took them in. goddamn voting without id would be a conplete disaster
>>70219314
This is why liberals hate voter ID laws: liberals benefit the most from a lack of it
>illegal immigrants
>people too poor/stupid to get IDs
>people who will vote under the names of other people, including dead people
>>70217586
You're literally retarded. Many states have voter hours laws requiring employers to give time to vote.
>>70216924
Because if you are illegal, you don't have one.
Then you can't vote for a candidate that gives you welfare and let's you do whatever you want.
Isn't it just awful?!
>>70216924
It makes it more difficult for Democrats to rig elections
>>70217586
wait, you don't have IDs for voting? Is this bait?
It undermines the ability for democrats to utilize voter fraud and it requires niggers to actually leave their houses to get an id so naturally its racist
>>70220100
When I voted in 2008 in Wisconsin they had a binder full of all the registered voters in the ward. You just signed your name and that was it.
Apparently a lot of niggers don't even have a SSN, so it's hard for them to get an ID. How they live without a SSN is beyond me.
>>70217415
I wasnt driving officer I was travelling.
>>70216924
ID should be government issued and free to get, but mandatory for things like voting. You should have to prove that you have the right to vote in order to do so.
Democrats can't reconcile with this because they love voter fraud.
There's no reason why you need a license to drive a car in the first place.
But documenting the voting process properly has become a necessity.
>>70221329
creating a system to distinguish those who can drive from those who can't is important. you want to prevent
>driven drunk/high from driving again
>those who are medically unable, unless adjustments can make them safe (e.g. for people with disabilities, handicap controls; for people with bad eyesight correctable with glasses, wear glasses while driving)
>those who drive recklessly or poorly and cannot pass an exam
the voting process should be documented for the sole reason that it would significantly reduce (almost eliminate, mistakes/fraud are always possible) voting by dead people, illegals, and people from voting more than once.
>>70217415
>>70217504
Problems officers.
The advert is for voting, but I'm guessing reading comprehension isn't your thing seeing your career choice.
>>70216924
I have to show ID when I vote. I thought libs all wanted to be like Canada. Well, we use voter IDs here.
>>70216924
It only lets liberals vote once and that's not fair. Their opinions are much more important than stupid racist white males.
>>70218348
They're fucking commies. Not even the rape hoards dismantling their societies give a fuck what they think.
>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>70216924
Supposedly it makes it harder for minorities to vote. I don't really get it either to be honest. I'd be ok with having to present my ID since I could just whip out my driver's.
Just out of curiosity, how would voter ID laws affect mail-in ballots though?
>>70222938
States typically compare voter registration information on file and the quality of the signature on absentee ballots. If they don't match, the ballot is discarded.
if the government want to require that you need an photo ID then they need to provide that service free to citizens upon request.
>>70216924
It's not. It's common sense but you have retards on both sides fucking things up.
>>70223710
pretty much this.
>>70223553
I like the idea because it keeps poorfag mexicants from voting themselves my shekels I got from my white penis privilege
>>70216924
i shouldn't have to prove my identity to the state when i have not done anything wrong.
if they suspect me of wrongdoing then i should be given time to collect my identification and mail a copy or produce it to the nearest police station. And only if they actually have a good reason to warrant me to.
Furthermore it can lead to a kind of confirmation bias where people will automatically assume they're infallible identification of oneself when they likely will be forgeable like pretty much any other form of identification, so they wont really fix any problems
>>70216924
It takes the right to vote away from people who are ineligible to vote
>>70216924
It's not. The left uses this false narrative to get their way, just like they do with most other things.
They are a bunch of manipulative lying cunts.
The only reason they don't want this is so that illegal immigrants can vote.
>>70224527
my bad i thought it was a thread about mandatory id on people in general not for voting specifically
>>70216924
IT VIOLATES MY SAFE SPACE
I DON'T NEED A REASON
STOP
>>70224380
To acquire a free government issued photo ID you must provide a valid SSN and wait 3 to 6 weeks for it to arrive.
I would be OK with this, how about you?
I think it should be revised to any photo ID.
Let's say I lose my license for some offense that isn't a felony. That would cause me not to be able to vote even though legally being allowed.
>>70216924
Because then it's harder for leftists to commit voter fraud. Somehow if you don't let them fuck you over, youre being an oppressor.
>>70217415
>>70217504
>>70217956
>>70220746
any one got links on good vids? have not seen "free citizens" get triggered in awhile
>>70223553
which would be paid by taxes, paid by citizens. I bet you're a millenial liberal that thinks money comes from nowhere.
>>70217586
>In some states it can cost between 30-40 dollars to get an ID or drivers license printed and in large cities it's nothing but a hassle.
>States usually also combine these measure with things like shorter times for polls to be open, having them on hours when wage workers are at work, under staffing the polls, et cetera. Just look at what happened in Arizona. Are you saying that isn't voter suppression?
Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit!
States bend over backwards to give the poor and the stupid free identification.
>>70224857
>I think it should be revised to any photo ID.
It already is any photo id...
>>70224979
It's almost like a the government operates on tax money. If you don't want to pay for something, don't make it mandatory.
>>70225179
Why? You think you should be given everything free? Are you a bernfaggot?
>>70217415
No, burgerman. We're asking for ID to prevent voting fraud, so you can continue having your freedoms.
Are people really that stupid? Do they really not realize that not having a voters ID checked during elections could lead to fraud?
>>70225358
You are the one who wants the government to operate for free because "I don't want to pay for things".
>>70221329
Driving is a privilege. Not a right.
>>70220423
>born in the US
>no SSN
when my wife's son was born we got his SSN in the mail after a couple of weeks, and no one even asked us. how can you be born in the US with no SSN?
>>70225522
Nah I gladly pay for services
>>70225637
I don't remember where I read it, but I think it was an article about voter ID requirements in Wisconsin. Apparently a number of niggers don't have a SSN or ID at all.
>>70225691
You just don't want to pay for the ones you don't like.
>>70226017
Why would I not want to pay for full set of nice services that I could need someday? Ofc I don't want to pay for some nonsensical shit like importing "workforce" from syria or anything like that what we really don't need.
>>70226225
How did we get to immigration from paying for citizen IDs?
>>70226502
Everything leads to immigration desu
>>70226502
It's always about muh immigrants
>>70226679
>>70226650
just like how every Wikipedia article leads to philosophy?
>>70220947
>Free to get
enjoy paying for an ID for everyone including those who don't/won't vote
>>70227197
Free upon request would be better because you only need one if you are going to vote so you only get one if you are going to vote.
>>70216924
it's not really "oppressive" but governments don't have real authority over the individual
>>70226866
>m'lady atheism over a picture from some anime trash
Literally sums up atheism. Pathetic fat neckbeards watching anime.
>>70228086
it's Fedorable isn't it?
>>70216924
You can vote without ID? thats retard, how do you know a person is no voting two times in different places?
>>70225900
If the niggers were born in a real hospital, they have an SSN.
>>70216924
When I went voting I had to show my id and there were 10 ledgers, the person working at the table found my name in one of the ledgers and I had to sign next to it, and in turn I got a ballot to cast my vote. How does it work in the US? Just walk in and vote? How would they check if you already voted without an ID?
>>70228460
who are you guys sending to eurovision this year?
>>70228321
here in FL you have to vote at a specific precinct or something and you have to register.
>>70217415
CONDUCTOR
>>70217586
Cool. So people that are too lazy, or to too dumb, to take the necessary steps to get an id of any form are competent enough to properly cast a vote.
>>70229227
This, fuck this country and fuck king nigger and his goons. Wheres a good place to move if fucking dems win again?
I voted yesterday with a photo ID, I don't see the problem
>>70228761
>8
consider returning there
>>70221591
don't gun grabbers use the same logic to push gun control?
commie piece of shit, from my cold dead hands faggot
>>70230555
>doesnt know eesti
