>"This guy's a bad guy. And you know, there is still this thing called execution."
Jesus h christ ive been planning on voting trump since mid 2015 because he was going to BTFO the globalists and unfuck our constitutional rights.
I just came across this and its broken my god damn heart. /pol/ what do you think?
>>70200385
Edward Snowden is a traitor who compromised national security, if I were Trump, of course I wanted him dead for making USA weak in the eyes of the world
He's trying to win IMO. Didn't opinion polls say snowden dun goofd?
>>70200385
You aren't a hero just because you release a bunch of information. What did Snowden actually accomplish? He compromised US security and blew his load on a bunch of sensitive information that isn't going to make a lick of difference because he infodumped it without any context. It's not usable info and no one can act on it. All that potential to unfuck things has been wasted because Snowden couldn't control himself
>>70200455
>>70200516
> that's the average American opinion on the matter
>>70200455
>>70200512
>>70200516
I never thought i would see the day /pol/ would shill for the NSA
Guess theres a first for everything
>>70200584
back to your favela.
I wish someone competent had processed the information. I wish that this person approached a watchdog group with political clout and leveraged that information into an actionable position. I wish that the info leaks could actually have accomplished something instead of being wasted and turned into a fucking international joke because of one person's incompetence.
Instead we got fucking Snowden.
Snowden is a cuck for Black Lives Matter, who cares?
>>70200516
>no one can act on it
Only because you are the most powerful nation and EU cucks sucking your nigger dick
>>70200679
Nobody is shilling for the NSA. I don't agree with Trump on this one, but I understand where he's coming from and it's no reason for me to support him any less.
>>70200874
>>70200874
>I understand where he's coming from
Which is?
normal people have nfi about anything snowden released, the only people who bother to look into it are neckbeards worried about the safety of their loli collections
Most trumpfags are either too retarded to understand cybersecurity and computers, or to grasp why the NSA actually makes the US and the world at large less safe in terms of Internet threats, let alone understand how surveillance curtails their privacy and freedom.
the rest of the trumpfags don't give a damn because they are compromised to their racism, in their eyes, illegal immigration is a much bigger problem than the. power the NSA has over citizens of the US
>>70200385
>implying snowden isn't an actor
you can't possibly be this gullible?
>>70201093
Immigration is more important than any issue. That's how horrible your people are. If we become another failed Latin American state, our "cybersecurity" policies won't mean shit anyway. You pigs live in filth and blackouts have the time. We'll be lucky to have electricity if we allow you vermin to flip this country.
>>70200942
Appeal to popularity.
>>70200679
you should have been here the day Trump spoke at AIPAC
>>70201178
nosepad might be missing but that prescription is real as fuck
>>70201093
boohoo the NSA can see all the fucked up porn I've watched. not even a trumpfag, I just don't give a fuck
>>70201270
So are u saying this is some sort of ends justifying the means type of thing?
>>70201214
>Immigration is more important than any issue. That's how horrible your people are.
that is an affirmation
>If we become another failed Latin American state, our "cybersecurity" policies won't mean shit anyway.
if you let NSA have control over the entire data of your population, you will no longer be able to control the policies of your country
>hurr durr but at least we tried to deport Mexicans and failed miserably
> You pigs live in filth and blackouts have the time. We'll be lucky to have electricity if we allow you vermin to flip this country.
you can't even string together a coherent sentence
as expected from a mouthbreathing trumpfag
>>70200818
You don't have to be a fan of Snowden's politics to see that the info he leaked was a threat to the NSA, not to the American people.
>>70200385
>/pol/ what do you think?
I don't know. My thoughts on Snowden aren't fully formulated but I think Trump's being extreme here.
>>70201362
>I'm for banning free speech because I don't have anything to say
flawless logic mouthbreather, they really are putting the good stuff in your foods
>>70200385
MUH SNOWDEN
MUH FAGGIT HERO
MUH GIVE UP FREEDUMS
MUH SECURITY
MUH ANO YNM OOSE
MUH WAAAAAAAMBULANCE
MUH BERNIE DIAPERS
MUH TINY TINY PE PE
please.
>>70201362
They aren't interested in your porn. They're interested in the porn of the Party. You're a prole, and proles and animals are free.
>>70201362
>be Amerifag
>don't care about freedom
>just want gun and mc donalds food and be happy
>Snowden
Pussy ass bitch who sold the majority of his insider info to USA's enemies for protection instead of revealing it to the public. As if those countries don't do the same kind of fucked up shit. Completely fucking negates his cause.
He now hides like a little bitch and makes smarmy comments on Twitter as if he's some sort of internet celebrity.
Fuck him.
>>70200385
Don't listen to anything Trump says unless It's about Immigration, Trade or Foreign Policy
Everything else is liquid - any position on any subject that isn't listed above is subject to change and you should treat anything he says on them with a truckload of salt.
>>70201479
Imagine millions of Congolese poured into your country and starting behaving like niggers. That's how we feel about you. We find you gross, we find you stupid, we hate your shit culture, we hate your ugly physical features, how short you are. You're terrible to see. Little brown goblins walking around our country. In the cities all you do is commit crime. You;re incompetent, you're stupid, you're corrupt, white people are always having to fix your shit. You're a bad fit from top to bottom. We just do not like you, and so we don't want you here.
Why is this so hard for Mexishits to understand? How can we fucking finally get rid of you?
>>70201569
Please leave this thread. Or stick around for the bumps. But your bullshit really isnt promoting good discourse.
>>70201488
keyword is "was." information has no power if you don't know how to use it. now it's useless, and it did a lot of harm in the process
>>70201726
What harm did it do?
>>70200385
Trump is just sending a strong message to people who would be employed under him.
He won't tolerate any betrayals/traitors, thats all.
Do you actually believe he is going to hunt Snowden down? Do you actually believe he fucking cares about that guy?
I doubt it, politicians send messages to each other but they have to veil them inside of their speeches. If you're Trump you probably sense the full scale of corruption inside of the US, so you send those guys a message not to fuck with you.
>>70201694
ITS A FREE COUNTRY YOU STUPID NIGGA I CAN DO WHAT I WANT
>>70201634
this too. he's just shit all around.
>>70200385
Paris and Brussels might have been averted were it not for him. In any case, he still works for the alphabet soup.
>NSA spyware collects my 4chan posting history and what kind of porn I'm watching today.
>local terrorist cell is planning a massacre to a local nightclub
Snowden really made the world safer,, for terrorists and pedofiles.
safety over freedom I'd say
>>70201634
this
>>70200385
40 years ago, snowden would be executed by firing squad.
Snowden is a legitimate traitor why is this so hard to understand?
>>70201840
Is this the part where we pretend that intelligence agencies are actually interested in preventing terrorism, and that they aren't actually aiding them?
>Pol used to be anti jewish
>Anti NSA
>Had Megyn Kelly as their waifu
>Used to think Cruz was the best conservative around
>In comes Trump the sleeper cell from Hilliary
>All that changes
>>70201806
And the Holocaust could have been avoided if the art school took Hitler.
>>70201783
t. cuk
Nice id
>>70201670
>Imagine millions of Congolese poured into your country and starting behaving like niggers. That's how we feel about you. We find you gross, we you stupid, we hate your shit culture, we hate your ugly physical features, how short you are. You're terrible to see. Little brown goblins walking around our country. In the cities all you do is commit crime. You;re incompetent, you're stupid, you're corrupt, white people are always having to fix your shit. You're a bad fit from top to bottom. We just do not like you, and so we don't want you here.
I'm partial as to labeling this a shameless deflection, impotent anger venting, pure vitriol, a shitpost, or all of them together.
>Why is this so hard for Mexishits to understand? How can we fucking finally get rid of you?
Well, as I stated before, your racism actually overrides your logic, (if your trumpniggerking wins) trump will do a shit job at deporting people while expanding the police state to deport them and simultaneously taking away the privacy of the people which allows then to shape the country as they want.
at least you may get a chance to vent some of that impotent peanut brain racist anger of yours which consumes you from inside
>>70200385
LET ME REMIND YOU
Snowden's remaining safe in Russia is dependent on him making the case that he's in danger of TORTURE and EXECUTION.
If you wanted Snowden to remain safe and you were a presidential candidate, you would call for his torture and/or execution. Simple.
Not saying Trump is actually on Snowden's side of course, but if he were that's what he should say.
And also, EVERYONE needs to discourage people going AWOL in their subordinates.
This thread is for shills only - regular browsers please get out!!
>>70201894
I've been seeing a lot of evangelical tier threads being made lately as well.
It's only a matter of time until we have Sunday Generals where we start talking about how our church service went that Sunday.
>>70201894
Never anti-jewish.
Never anti-NSA.
Never positive on anyone on FNC.
Not impressed with Cruz since he pissed off all of his own natural allies in the Senate.
>>70201943
thanks
but snowden is a piece of shit attention seeking male jiggalo who would betray his parents if it could get him some notoriety
>>70200385
Killing a whistle blower would especially one as high profile as Snowden would send a very powerful message. He fled the country, we should be able to kill him.
>>70200385
Snowden is a traitor. Even putin thinks so. He is ex-kgb after all, he knows what military oath is.
We do not surrender him only because we don't get along with USA and you guys don't surrender our criminals as well.
>>70201749
the meme is that it compromised intelligence security, which it did.
but more importantly, it delegitimized inquiry into cybersurveillance. imagine if you had been trying to carefully put together information and gathering political allies so that you could effectively lobby to curtail mass surveillance of civilians. you could've been working on this for years.
Then Snowden comes along and dumps literally everything, sells off a lot of that information, and turns the entire issue into a laughingstock. All your work gets destroyed in an instant, and you can't get it back. No one takes the issue seriously anymore and the cybersurveillance policies you wanted to combat go untouched. You're back to square one and the problem is now even worse.
People already knew that mass surveillance was going on. What was needed was an organized movement - within government - for reform, backed up by information like what Snowden released. Now it's only going to be that much harder to accomplish, because that information is now not only associated with illegitimate sources, but also outdated, because it could not be used effectively during the leak.
>>70200385
One of the worst thing Cultural Marxism did is deconstruct the idea of treatery.
He is a traitor. a T R A I T O R. Execution would be more than legitimate.
>>70201894
/pol/ has changed so much in the last 6 months its like half of the userbase is huffing canned air
>>70200455
Snowden help create a snowball effect opening peoples eyes on how much the powers that be are fucking them,
of course Julian Assange was there to open the door but Snowden kept it open from being shut with his actions.
Now look what we have, the Panama Papers. Its now all starting to be the norm to question our governments.
>>70202098
The NSA compromises security themselves. Fuck, they try to manipulate companies to weaken encryption standards
As for "reform within government" what the hell did you think this panopticon exists for? It's there to ensure there can be no rebellion from within. Did you think the NSA built this so they could look at the average working joe's porn?
> Trump becomes president
> is the biggest pro-NSA pro-spying pro-censorship president since the last one
> opens up libel laws and closes websites that are deemed security threats or libshit propaganda
> dismantles net neutrality
> closes up 4chan and makes laws that force websites to identity users with real life name
/pol/ doesn't want to think about it this way. They fail to realize that this guy even if he's not bought off by corporations is still in line ideologically and from a business perspective with them.
> build wall
> democlap gets elected afterwards
> makes legal immigration ten times easier and basically lets the gates to the wall open to everyone
>>70202144
thats bullshit
doxing people based on some self appointed moral principal based on trends and fashions is pathetic.
>>70201569
Aus, you're right on time.
>>70201479
>d-d-don't worry about the fact we all have 6 kids and have taken over 40% of your country
>dont worry that we don't learn American history or understand it, and instead force in our socialist beliefs and "culture."
>dont worry that many of us are quite vocal about wanting to take over a large part of your country or maybe the whole thing someday.
>I know millions of us can't even speak English and your own country is forcing locals to learn Spanish just to get jobs inside of your own country BECAUSE OF US
>I know you might be worried at the amount of us abusing social benefits/tax evasion and contributing to the ever growing financial deficit
>I know you might be worried your President admitted immigrants are driving down the living wages for all Americans.
>but let me tell you something, the NSA knowing what porn you jerked off to. Thats the REAL threat!
>pfffft you guys are just dumb rednecks for not seeing that!
I'm starting to actually hate Mexicans desu. And faggots like you are exactly why.
>>70202210
cool, this is the staging area for the snowden lynching right?
>>70202112
>this buttangered kike is mad because Israel is shown as the piece of shit it is in the snowden leaks
Are those records from US citizens any good for your country?
Are you mad because Israel was shown as the backstabbing kikes they truly are after sabotaging Iran with malware?
Are you buttangered because the US thinks you're not an ally they can trust?
>>70202205
doxing? It goes way beyond mere doxing to pop tart.
>>70202112
you would know, being america's most traitorous "ally"
>>70202284
I was keeping it simple, stupid
>>70202177
>Trump
>closes up 4chan
Yeah, right. Come on man, even our 2ch is still operational and feels just fine with Putin and all our restriction laws.
>>70201943
I dont care if he is seeking attention or not. Wouldnt you like to know if all of your communications are being stored on some server in the desert for all eternity to be accessed by people you dont know?
That this data has the potential to be used to inplicate you for anything when utilized in a certain way?
>>70202177
Literally all of those are good things.
>>70200385
How does a commie live?
>>70202277
NSA were spying on us too, and I'm "buttangered " because the idea of a traitor seems to be alien to people today.
But you wouldn't understand the concept of being loyal to your state, Mexico, you are a wreck of an excuse of a country.
>>70200385
Sauce? You're bullshitting me.
Trump has been outspoken about how the people should go against the government when the government is misbehaving. That's what Snowden did.
I really don't believe you. I've been supporting Trump for like a year here, with my spic flag and all, but this would be a deal breaker.
>>70202174
Whatever your opinion is regarding the purpose of surveillance, the point is that Snowden's leak was not effective. The program is now even more invasive and people feel even more helpless about trying to change it. Information is useless or even damaging if it is employed improperly.
There's a certain doublethink in expounding the virtues of the leak out of one side of your mouth, while with the other you suggest that it's pointless to even try changing things.
Trump says many things.
Ultimately. it doesn't matter whoever becomes president, Snowden will remain in Russia.
he's a traitor and should be executed, just like one of my brothers-in-citizen stealing war plans in the cold war
btw, now he's a hero not a traitor
oh the concern trolling is off the charts, get fucked every single last one of you leftist black cock gobbling idiots
>>70202088
Thanks mother vodka.
>>70201894
>Cruz
have you not payed attention to his campaign?
Only the most vehement cuckservatives still fall for his lies.
He just flip flops between copying Trump and then flopping back to something politically correct. The man is another GOP shill who is just saying anything to get it to a convention so Ryan/Romney can swoop in again.
Say what you will about Trump, but at least he is mostly consistent on his message and stance. Hell even Kasich is more consistent than Cruz.
>>70202410
Why would you be loyal to a state that wants to kill you?
>>70202438
I said it was impossible to change it from within government, because the thing you want to change exists for that very purpose.
>>70202217
I'm not going to respond to such a long swelfarehitpost quote by quote, but I can say to you that illegals would not emigrate en masse if there wasn't such violence in Mexico as a result of the US led war on drugs which started in 2006 and had catastrophic ramifications on the economy and quality of life.
Immigrants can integrate well if given the chance by eliminating welfare and you can reduce the number of them by legalizing drugs together so we can end cartels and gangs in the US.
What you post about the NSA looking at porn is a dishonest extreme simplification.
that is all, I won't discuss this shut to someone who can't even structure his ideas properly
>>70202483
Subversives seem to have had no trouble at all changing things from within government, even the things that ostensibly were supposed to keep them out
>>70202483
Who are you referring to, snowden? The state didn't want to kill him.
>>70202559
The United States, as a political entity, intends to kill everyone, if not in a physical sense then in a spiritual one. It is the disposable muscle for the globalist plot that you see unfolding in Europe right now.
>>70202553
How much of that happened before the modern panopticon? What the NSA is doing now was not possible even twenty years ago.
>There are people, in this thread, right fucking now, that support warrantless wiretapping and dragnet NSA Orwellian Security?
Do you fucks really want to make non-violent revolution impossible?
>>70200679
Speaking as an authoritarian, it's been awfully swell since we drove the majority of you sovereign citizen lolberfagians out of here.
I hope that traitor Snowden swings from a tree.
>>70202652
It's actually worse than in Orwell. In 1984 the majority of the population was not spied on or bothered at all, even in a passive dragnet way.
>>70202410
Snowden is a public servant paid with taxpayer money, working for a government organization whose objectives are against the people that he's supposed to serve.
He is loyal to his state (the state is actually the people of a country), not to the government.
What you have done is to manipulate the definition of loyalty while pretending that being a bootlicker for the interests of a few people in the government constitutes as 'loyalty''.
>>70200385
im sure you will be able to ignore it, just like trump fans ignored his comments about "doing something about the internet"
>>70202418
Oh, fuck everything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1p2-d4vDg8
Please tell me he's changed his opinion since 2013.
At least he says that he dislikes both Snowden AND what the NSA was doing...
I like Snowden.
But Snowden will never go back to the US, certainly not in the next 8 years, so it doesn't matter.
>>70202740
Snowden worked for a private contractor. He never worked for the NSA.
He did, however, use to be CIA.
>>70202024
I imagine some /pol/lacks are becoming old enough to be parents, and thus their youthful zeal fades into a more GOP-friendly conservatism.
>>70202630
>How much of that happened before the modern panopticon?
If we are to believe /pol/, it's happening every day.
>>70202366
Replied to wrong post, meant for>>70202052
>>70202779
Where is this subversion from within?
>>70200385
Trump is a childish ne-ne who believes in a very specific type of "official narrative". Therefore, he's a perfect tool for globalists. Trump is not a wonder man.
Trump is not Putin. he's NOT an anomaly.
>>70202551
>Im not going to respond to your very clear concerns and valid points
Exactly what I expected from a beaner, fuck off PACO.
>Immigrants can integrate
thats only true if they don't replace your population and don't hold onto stubborn beliefs steeped in hatred for your country/people which is what is actually happening.
>legalize drugs for Mexico/Mexicans
so again its the US that must vastly change everything about its society just to "help out" Mexicans. Funny how that works. You are a parasite on our collective body, thats all.
I'm not even that same faggot you were talking to. I just called you out on being full of shit. Seeing your response, I can conclude you are in fact full of shit.
>>70202098
>>70202773
Was the private contractor not being hired by the NSA using taxpayer money? Is he not factually working for the US government? Is he not a citizen of the US who is supposed to uphold the values of the US constitution?
He is right. Snowden would be fine as a whistleblower, but runing to Russia with the info is a clear act of treason.
>>70201488
NSA IS a threat to American people. Too bad Trump cannot see that, that means he's a populist to the extreme. And that makes him actually dangerous to the world AND his country.
>>70200385
>voting for a Jew puppet
You Amerifats are such keks.
>>70202851
>Exactly what I expected from a beaner, fuck off PACO.
I'm typing from a phone so excuse me if I've hurt your stormnigger sensibilities by not responding to each of your inane details.
>thats only true if they don't replace your population and don't hold onto stubborn beliefs steeped in hatred for your country/people which is what is actually happening.
that is an affirmation, not a fact, perhaps they do so because you've denied them their identity as Americans?
>so again its the US that must vastly change everything about its society just to "help out" Mexicans. Funny how that works. You are a parasite on our collective body, thats all.
Illegal drug trade is a problem shared by both of our countries, whether you want to admit it or not.
>I'm not even that same faggot you were talking to. I just called you out on being full of shit. Seeing your response, I can conclude you are in fact full of shit.
Ah so you're just another generic buttmad stormnigger, carry on my friend.
>>70202052
>>70202946
FOR THE 9001ST TIME HE WAS GOING TO SOUTH AMERICA
THEY REVOKED HIS PASSPORT AS HE WAS ON LAYOVER IN MOSCOW
>>70202828
Subversion is a matter of perspective.
All the things /pol/ hates: open borders, mass immigration, globalization, islamization, surveillance, gender and identity politics. To /pol/ these are subversive ideals, propagated by subversive elements. The fact is that fundamentally there must be representation in government signing and implementing these ideals into law. Therefore, what /pol/ considers subversion is simply the coordinated efforts of political allies. The ones who enact social change are those who understand this principle. You change things by acquiring allies and signing your own principles into law. It takes years of careful planning and execution, and your competition are the other political power blocs who are trying their best to subvert and worm their way into the positions you want to occupy.
You don't change things with maverick one-man action. All that does is hand over the power to the established power bloc to do with as they will.
>>70202946
He didn't give or have any imformation present to the Russians. He's simply there because USA is pressuring every western European nation to refuse him. And the overall logic and edgyness by US posters scares the fuck out of me.
>>70202946
He did not run to Russia, US officials canceled his passport while he was traveling to another country.
God damn you people are stupid.
>>70202652
Johnson is owned by the Kochs though.
>>70203127
yeah
fuck palestine my brother
they should move snowden there then drop a bomb on him
>>70203268
>>70200455
Anyone else getting annoyed by this Malaysian faggot? I can't stand this guy. Oh and his art is shit.
>>70203253
and why are the Kochs so bad anyways, because the media told you so?
Every jew on wall street supports a candidate, they're A-OK, but if the kochs give them money omg its Hitler..
>>70202915
Dude, THE ESSENCE of Snowden leaks was that the most important enemy of the US State (NSA) was the US Public THEMSELVES.
That's why he did commit the leak in the first place.
BECAUSE FUCKING NSA ARE WORKING WITH A-PRIORI FUCKING TRAITORS IN US FUCKING GOVERNMENT.
>>70203344
what does that imply? nothing other than that they wanted his friends to not be concerned about his safety so he was visisble and unharmed? biased media reporting never tells the whole story, and like with snowden the media trumpeted his deeds as heroic to generate headlines and viewers but in actuality it was giving the attention whore what he wanted, in the same way the canadian psycho wanted noterierty by posting dumb gay shit online then fleeing the country. it takes the same mindset and betrayal of trust and morality to do what canadian psycho and snowden did
>>70201270
this, it was a shitstorm
>>70201418
the ends DOES justify the means. Anyone arguing against it is doing it on an emotional basis
also what are you trying to say?
>be /pol/
>muh second amendment
>muh guns
>muh freedom
>protect us from tyranny government
>someone shows that your government is really one
>a fucking traitor, kill him!!!
you may as well throw away all your guns and move to China, they love spying on you too.
>>70200385
Snowden was only exposing Obama's retardation. Trump should understand that Snowyden is the good guy.
>>70203352
You can learn about them yourself. It's just something to take into consideration when supporting an obedient puppet.
>>70203676
Trump is nothing more than a scheming manipulator who simply says what the people want to hear in order to get what he wants
>>70203663
Based Hong kong keep bringing them red pills homie
>>70203613
>>70203765
Trump said that a year before he announced his candidacy.
On most everything else he's said, he's absolutely right. Build wall, Pedro.
But seriously, what has Trump said about Snowden after announcing he's running? Please tell me he's changed his opinion since that interview in late 2012/early 2013.
>>70203792
The second amendment is the most beautiful words ever written. You guys don't treasure your freedom.
We have to fight the pigs with bricks.
>>70203663
So much fucking this. /pol/ is muh guunzzzz for the tyranny of the government, Snowden exposes it and now he's a traitor. You fucks are flipflopping harder than Cruz just to gobble down the Trump-cock. Fucking pathetic
>All these foreigners in this thread trying to tell us Americans what is and is not a threat/harmful to our country.
>>70203663
>spying on own people
>spying on whole world
pick one
Snowden giving whole world information, so technically he's not an USA traitor, since USA doesn't spies on USA, but whole world. When Snowden goes to some country that's been wrongfully spied upon, he's a good guy. Who gave USA the right to spy on anybody else than USA citizen? USA government should be internationally prosecuted, Snowden is just the beginning in this prosecution.
>>70203797
so do you think killing US citizens is justified?
>>70201943
oi m8 this bant was bloody underrated
no fukin bullshit aye
>>70203928
>Trump said that a year before he announced his candidacy.
Are you implying he did not know he was running for president 1 year before doing so?
>On most everything else he's said, he's absolutely right. Build wall, Pedro.
I see an affirmation and a meme in this sentence.
>But seriously, what has Trump said about Snowden after announcing he's running? Please tell me he's changed his opinion since that interview in late 2012/early 2013.
I'm not sure he's said anything new about snowden, not that it matters, considering he's a flip flopping buffoon when it suits. Although I'd admit that he'd say the same about snowden considering his comments about the backdoor on apple products, it's a better bet to cater to ignorant people than to bet on the informed ones.
>>70200385
Dont get me wrong Snowden from what im aware of is a hero and all but you got to be retarded if you think he didn't give some dirt to Russia or China.
>Drumpfarts seriously think that a man who exposed UNCONSTITUTIONAL surveillance is a traitor
you don't understand you retards
all Americans have as their identity is what's in their Constitution
that's what makes you Americans, that's what makes you more than just a bunch of mutts who ran away from their original countries
if you wanna shit on that, you're fucking nothing
you don't get to play some fascism, you have no fucking identity to start with
>>70204033
It interfers with the rest of the world you fat fucking dumbass.
>>70201270
Just don't forget, no matter what is the consensus in /pol/, the Jews are always at blame
If Donald trump wanted to ban guns, the fags here that brown nose him would justify it
>>70204039
>USA doesn't spy on its own people
but that's just plain wrong
I am partial about your comment on international spying, spying other countries should not be a custom, however, nations are inherently dicks when it comes to such issues
>>70204121
>so do you think killing US citizens is justified?
Ask Israel.
>>70204389
Yes, it is. Americans will always be Americans, just as a pig will always be a pig.
>>70204217
Montenegro please. American culture is richer than you could possibly imagine
>>70204033
That's what we do here, or we can stop making threads about Germany, Sweden and Japan everyday.
You Americans are so proud of the fact that you're number one, guess what, you are! Your policy affect the whole world.
>>70204033
Your government isn't only spying on you. It's spying on the rest of the world too.
I stand by your second amendment. You earned it. But I also stand by our 12th universal human right.
>>70204389
>oh these poor oppressed people just want to live in peace
If you at this point don't know that Trump is pro LAW with no compromises, then you haven't been paying attention.
It's the same reaction he gave in regards to abortion; he said that if it were illegal to commit abortion, it should be punished. The only thing he implied with it is that LAW IS NOT TO BE BARGAINED WITH, and Snowden broke the fucking law.
If Trump didn't have this authoritarian stance, his entire anti-illegal immigration stance would be void as well.
>>70204541
>>70204161
>Are you implying he did not know he was running for president 1 year before doing so?
I'm saying he's had the time to come to his senses on this one issue.
>it's a better bet to cater to ignorant people than to bet on the informed ones.
He'd be sucking mexican dick like the rest then. After all, your undocumented raza is gonna win Commiefornia for Hillary.
I really can't understand how they're not allowed to check IDs at the polls... it's ridiculous.
>>70201178
Whats the significance of a missing nosepad?
>>70203797
i.... i dont see a problem here.
>>70204590
>they are peaceful peoples being oppressed by the big bad jew
>>70204541
>he doesn't know about the USS Liberty
Fucking hell, straya. We all know you wanna play the stereotypical shitposter, but come on.
>>70204546
>muh absolutism
>muh pro law mental gymnastics
where does this 'pro law' view stands when it comes to unconstitutional actions on part of the government? because I've never seen this clown criticize the government when it its boundaries, as a matter of fact, I've seen the contrary exclusively
trumpniggers not even once
>>70204541
Cunt got rekt. See all these stabbing recently? This is part of their new Intifada. That means this in only gonna get better.
>Journey into the ‘stabbing intifada’
http://www.politico.eu/article/journey-into-the-stabbing-intifada/
Good luck greatest ally.
>>70204453
>American culture is richer than you could possibly imagine
I'm not even talking about that you faggot
BASE of American identity is what's in your Constitution
America was the first state in the world to be based on ideals
you can't be American without subscribing to ideals of your Founding Fathers
without that, all that's left is some dubious ''culture'' and a bunch of hyphenated ''Americans'', mutts with no real identity
>>70204724
Fuck the Palis and fuck Israel
>>70204733
this is my favorite one
>>70204749
You must be one of those people who think the founding fathers all had homogenous ideas and didn't disagree about anything.
>>70204667
>I'm saying he's had the time to come to his on this one issue.
that's a pipe dream considering his recent comments on apple bacckdoors and data collection on part of the NSA
he's a true establishment bootlicker and so is most of his following
>He'd be sucking mexican dick like the rest then. After all, your undocumented raza is gonna win Commiefornia for Hillary.
He wouldn't be able to compete with Hillary if he tried to grab voters from the same pool, he picked the disenfranchised white trash strain so he has to cater to their views.
>>70200385
We have laws, Trump is a man that believes in abiding by the laws, what's hard to see? However the NSA is unconstitutional and should be binned. But Snowden still is a faggot.
>>70200385
Wow, he wants to kill one of the biggest heroes of today? KILL him? What a fucking sicko. I have been supporting him on everything but this. Btw this didn't happen unless i see a source.
>>70204742
See this (>>70200516) post. He didn't just leak stuff related to the NSA, he just grabbed a fuckton of sensitive data, threw it on wikileaks and called it a day. He's a no good criminal, Pablo, you know, that thing that's a national pasttime in your awful country?
SNOWDEN TOOK USA FREEDUMS AWAY HE MUST BE PUNISHED FOR THAT
>>70205089
Search youtube m8. He did hint at executing him.
He also said the NSA was in the wrong as well though, and it all was before he announced his candidacy.
And yeah, I'm feeling the same exact way as you. >>70202418
>>70200455
This.
Snowden is reddit tier
America can't be looked at as weak. We are already look at as stupid.
>>70205027
If trump cares about the law so much why doesn't he criticize the NSA? All he does is criticize the people who give them trouble in their spying routine.
Trump is 70 fucking years old. He lived his entire youth and most of his business life without internet, some thing he isn't going to "get."
And for all Snowden's bullshit, he fucked us all by not naming the Jew.
>>70205108
>snowden
>releasing shit through wikileaks
can't tell if troll or stupid
source on what this 'sensitive' data is
source on what he released through wikileaks
>>70205175
Source for him criticizing the NSA? I missed that.
>YFW Trump exposes Snowden as an psychological operative of the deep state and reveals some shit they've been up to that makes MKUltra and Gladio look like child's play
>>70200385
>pre-trump /pol/
Well snowden did the right thing, sure it was kinda sketchy but it was the only way, all hail ron paul and freedoms
>post-trump /pol/
HES A TRAITOR,A COWARD, AND DESERVES TO DIE, MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA
srsly /pol/ pick a side and stick with it
>>70205285
Look at wikileaks pablo. Internet is free.
>>70201479
Calm down, Jose
>>70205183
If Snowden hadn't leaked that shit, computer security and encryption wouldn't have leapt the way it has.
Your country already looks stupid. You've already said so yourself. Snowden's leaks don't make you look any more stupid, just as stupid as usual.
What they do, however, is to remind us to protect out 12th universal human right, to beware of back doors and to never trust emails.
>>70205330
>what's the burden of proof
go smoke a blunt you mouthbreather
Take it from a country where the government unironically classifies fucking everything for no reason just so they don't have to own up to their fuck ups.
Snowden is a hero.
>>70205310
see >>70202750
That wasn't the one where he hinted at executing Snowden though, but he said something along the lines of "both the NSA and Snowden are in the wrong".
>>70205369
>attempting drug use stereotyping despite being the criminal drug capital of the world
Why are you doing this, Juan?
>>70200385
I think that Snowmen committed treason for a good reason. But at the end of the day, treason is still treason, so it makes sense that trump would be more than willing to execute him. If you can manage to looka t things form a neutral point of view, regardless of the reasons for why snowden did what he did, he still committed a huge national crime, one that should not get a pardon, because if he's done it once, he'll do it again.
It's like murder, even if you kill someone because they killed someone, its still murder and should be treated as such.
>inb4 MUH LETHAL INJECTIONS
Executioners have a job to do, and that is to act as the physical punishment of the state.
>>70200385
You thought Trump gave a shit about you and your freedoms? Now that's funny
everyone knew about the nsa, no one cares. the problem is wikileaks is run by the kremlin these days. it's a shitty situation we are in today. you need to remember that just because we take the moral high ground doesn't mean our enemies will. every country is spying on each other and conducting clandestine operations and i'd rather it be us rather than those subuhman russians and chinks
>>70205394
empty words from an empty manipulator
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/261673-trump-sides-with-rubio-over-cruz-in-nsa-surveillance
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/2/donald-trump-nsa-phone-snooping-program-i-err-side/
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/02/17/donald-trump-on-apple-backdoor-refusal/
>>70205430
>his post isn't a source yet he makes wild claims
your own fault for degrading the quality of diacussion to this level
>>70205477
Except it's not treason.
His leaking of shit is the same as, say, Breitbart's leaking of ACORN's scandal. They both presented evidence of the government acting illegally. Neither are acts of treason.
Kill Snowden?
Careful you fat smuck, the real anon might actually get you for that?
How about we dig up some dirty laundry on you, chump?
>>70200385
Trump is good a meme, but not a president.
>>70200385
This is the guy who wants to imprison the families of people who join ISIS, what did you expect?
>>70200385
I agree with you OP. Snowdon was a hero. We need to be told about how cucked we are as a nation. But /pol/ doesnt seam to agree based on most of the comments. /pol/ loves to get cucked but turn a blind eye. Another example is /pol/ is supposedly Christian, THE biggest cuckin' organization in our midst.
> /pol/ is always right.
Wrong - remember Mitt Romney?
>>70201931
This
>>70206634
I always thought the '/pol/ is always right' meme was just a spinoff from the horse in 'Animal Farm' which always blindly said 'Napoleon is always right' and got buttfucked in the end
>>70200385
where did trump say this? sause please thanks senpai
>>70202144
This
Snowden was a hero. Those lambasting privacy because papa Trump said something aren't just cucks, they're sissy boy faggots.
That said, Trump hasn't made any recent comments on the matter AND most of his competition are equally shitty for the 4th amendment. MAGA anyway.
>>70201894
>Used to think Cruz was the best conservative around
what am i reading
Well to be fair what Snowden did was a double edged sword since it was great that he exposed government corruption but the problem is the information could be given to our enemies
>>70207390
Horseshit. He was actually spot on until that #Cruzmissile faggotry. Replace Cruz with RON PAUL and you have old /pol/ in a nutshell.
>>70200679
>guy commits crimes
>is called a criminal
K
>he falls for Trumps rhetoric
Who knows what the fuck the guy will do if he becomes president (he won't). My guess is he would be cucked by advisors because of his arrogance. They would make him think he was doing things when in reality they were making all the decisions.
>>70202144
Panama papers are nothing more than slander funded by Soros and Obongo
>>70200385
If Trump wants Snowden dead, have him brought back to the USA and force him to take his old job back.
He won't make it to the end of the day. You fucks don't understand the level of hatred the Feds and contractors have for this guy.
AMERICAN EXPAT
Snowden would have a case if he limited it to revealing the NSA spying on us. But he didn't. He damaged American intelligence efforts abroad. He ran because the idiot realized attention whoring without an endgame gets you nowhere. Serves him right being stuck in Russia until the grave. Trump is right that he doesn't deserve our sympathy.
>>70201595
Nicely said. 1984 is more relevant every year.
>>70200385
Edward Snowden is kind of a traitor, leaking a ton of info out that compromises USA-s security, the way he should have done is to just leak shit on specific corrupt politicians, and not flee with the data he have to a competing "superpower".
>>70200385
Its not impossible that Donald J Trump was duped by the media himself into believing Snowden wasn't against the Media but the Country.
Imagine the Public response when Donald Is informed of the Intelligence service information
fires a bunch of people and declares Snowden a National Hero.
>>70202354
>feels just fine
I disagree.
>>70209066
he would have been sentenced to death if he didnt flee
meanwhile the nsa director lied under oath and nothing happened about it
>>70208709
He had the ideals, respect for the regular americans who were spied upon illegally. He don't get my sympathy but i can respect him. Someday people will recognise his efforts in America, and someday world will be more free from USA dominance so he could leave.
>>70209268
I respected him until I realized that he was full of shit when he leaked everything else. He just wanted to be Assange. If his stated ideals were real, I would respect them.
>>70200385
Hillary Clinton wants him dead too, and I fucking hate to say it I dont think Bernie does. But either way, theyre not getting him back so it doesnt really matter and is a non-issue, the "damage" has already been done
>>70201840
>safety over freedom I'd say
>Those who trade freedom for security deserve neither
Typical Eurocuck
>>70202098
Except that what he did changed. Information is the only essence of life. He did a lot for Internet (global information sharing) and thanks to it we're now living in post-Snowden era. But I guess you wouldn't understand as you're only interested in the dirty politics side of it and enjoy your working Interwebz.
>>70209350
what else he leaked? as far as i know he didn't know much, nothing top secret about secret millitary bases, undercover agents, new types weapon on new principles, classified communication codes or such
>>70209140
that certainly wouldn't make trump a particularly informed candidate. It's pretty bad any way you look at it.
Americunts always need to hate someone.
Hate chinese
hate jews
hate muslims
hate polish
hate germans
hate spanish
hate mexicans
hate english
hate irish
hate italian
hate south americans
hate japanese
hate syrians
hate israel
hate canada
hate swedish
hate afgans
hate africans (anything thats black is african)
hate other culture
AND THE WORLD HATES YOU BACK
YOU ARE THE REAL TERRORIST HOPE YOUR FAMILIES GET BOMB BY ISIS OR WHAT EVER THE FUCK THEY CALL THEMSELF.
AMERICANS ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH
THE WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE WITHOUT YOU FASCIST CUNTS
How many redditors do you think come to /pol/ just for the trump generals?
>>70209622
Leaking anything besides the NSA spying on Americans.
>>70209778
Oh now good boy. As far as "THE WORLD" is concerned you're in our sidecar.
>>70209350
Strictly speaking, he didn't leak anything to anyone but Greenwald and Poitras (or however the cunt's called), making them swear they'd censor anything that would pose any threat to any lives.
No life has been lost due to what the documents revealed. The only thing lost was the lost of trust of the whole world, and of its own people, towards the US government.
Which is a good thing. The TPP was at least delayed due to the released documents, and if the TPP (hopefully) doesn't pass, they will be one big reason why it didn't pass. Internet encryption has gone through the roof thanks to these discoveries. You now know, FOR SURE, not just speculation, that you HAVE to distrust google and facebook and twitter and the rest.
Nothing but good has come out of what Snowden revealed.
>>70209968
>The TPP was at least delayed due to the released documents, and if the TPP (hopefully) doesn't pass, they will be one big reason why it didn't pass
The TPP in Japan, I mean.
Gotta have dem pirated animus.
>>70209789
oh, come on. America always gives rewards, prizes and medals to traitors of Russia and China. Might as well give them the taste of their medicine for once.
>>70209968
As an American my first and foremost priority is the success of America. As an American, Snowden failed America. He damaged the American negotiating position abroad and helped give the Chinese an excuse for their IP theft bullshit that they try to do on every tech product that enters the country.
>>70203216
NSA chills i guarantee it
>>70210113
China deserves it. I still haven't made up my mind on Russia.
>>70209778
AMERICA NEVER WON A WAR
YOU ARE THE BIGGEST COWARDS
>>70209778
AMERICA IS GONNA GET BOMBED DONT WORRY ABOUT THAT
>>70200385
Who even cares Obama wants him dead too, so does Hilary.
>>70201569
ok m8
>>70210143
No. He didn't fail America. He attacked a corrupt government.
You know why your constitution exists, right? So the citizens of your country can defend themselves against an authoritarian regime.
What Snowden revealed let you know your 12th human right was being violated - and that the 12th human right of everyone around the world, ally, enemy or neutral, was also being violated, illegally, in your name. That is a good thing.
To quote Rand Paul's glorious debate: get a warrant, you fat fuck.
And if you believe the Snowden documents have done fuck all to help the Chinese market, you're out of your mind. Same shit would've happened, leak or no leak.
>>70200455
Good goy, make sure the electorate stays in the dark.
I HOPE THEIR GONNA BE MORE PEOPLE LIKE SNOWDEN AND JULIAN.
SO WORLD CAN SEE HOW FUCKED UP AMERICA IS
>>70201986
I dont think you understand how Russia works.
>>70210143
>kinship lies with people who live within a fence some old assholes drew up on a map.
>not professing your loyalties to others with sharp minds and good ethics wherever they come from.
It's people like you who are going to make america into a utopia I'm sure of it.
>>70210207
Americans do it not because someone deserves it, they do it to anyone who is not with them. No one put USA in the position to judgy and punish other nations.
>>70210411
If you don't think they did, you are woefully naive of how the Chinese work.
And I don't give a flying fuck about the rest of you cucks if it comes down to you vs American interests. He damaged American credibility abroad and there was nothing in that which benefitted America. Russia can have the little traitor. We need to purge the country of more of these people.
>>70200385
You just barely found out he supports the spystate? How new are you?
>>70210472
Get the fuck out, you globalist cunt. Loyalty to the country is inseparable from a good citizen. He was right to tell Americans what was going on, but he can fuck off with the rest.
>>70210491
America did. And that's good enough.
>>70206014
Yeah, he's literally supported war crimes and killing families of terrorists (watch the last Republican debate). The guy is good for bants, but would be terrible with any real power, you don't need to be an SJW to disagree with him.
>>70210603
>He damaged American credibility abroad
American credibility abroad was already damaged. The Snowden stuff only confirmed it - and hell, it was only another nail in the coffin. The retarded tranny's leaks confirmed it a few years before Snowden.
>Russia can have the little traitor
Actually, Russia will only have him for about another year. Then his asylum will expire, and I doubt Putin will keep him without him coughing up something - and he's got nothing left.
>We need to purge the country of more of these people
Yeah. Purge your country of those who point fingers at your corrupt government. I mean, Breitbart's dead, Snowden's in Russia, it's not like you've got anything left.
>>70210859
Stop twisting his role. I want disloyal Americans out. He was right to leak the domestic spying. That's it.
>>70200385
Just deal with it lad. America must be made great again, and Snowden will be safely in Russia.
>>70210725
>RAAWWW you made a good point and I have no counter point. I'm so heavily indoctrinated by chauvinist rhetoric that to consider I may be being duped makes me angry instead of contemplative! Rational aint National!!!10
That's you if it wasn't obvious. I'm not really sure how much you think about what you read so I just wanted to clarify.
>>70200584
I enjoyed killing your kind in modern warfare 2
Most of /pol/ likes Trump more than they dislike the NSA.
They are willing to compromise their true feelings to support Trump.
They will do mental gymnastics to avoid cognitive dissonance.
In this case, executing a whistleblower is OK if Trump does it. Snowden obvs should have nicely asked Obama permission to tell is we're secretly being mass surveiled.
>>70201986
>actually believing Snowden didn't sell out everything he knew about NSA to Putin in exchange for saving his boney ass
>>70203348
I know, he is everywhere and his opinions are shit.
People who try this hard to carve themselves out an identity on anonymous circassian folk dance boards are the worst
>>70210962
No, you idiot.
He was right to leak illegal human rights violations, domestic or not.
And a mass surveillance program that encapsulates the entirety of the internet is a violation of the 12th human right of every person on the planet. In your name.
Not only was it impossible for him to only leak the spying of US citizens and not the rest of the world because PRISM intrinsically works on the whole world and he wasn't the one deciding what to leak, but Greenwald and Poitras (sic?) were the ones, but the fact that he revealed this made the technology sector move, no matter the country, to make encryption more widely adapted, from HSTS in all modern browsers to Moxie's Signal to /g/'s Tox and whatnot.
What he did was good for your country - and by that, I mean for the citizens of your country, not your government. Which when it comes to democracy, is the whole fucking point.
>>70211196
>In this case, executing a whistleblower is OK if The Party does it. ftfy
>>70200385
I think you don't understand what constitutes a violation of a federal NDA, and treason.
>>70211188
>he enjoys playing BRs
Someone never played Ragnarok Online.
Spy's and traitors should hang.
>b-but muh freedumb, muh privacy.
Get fucked lolbertarians, nobody cares about your stupid shit.
>>70210859
don't bother guatamalian, its a wasted effort
see
>>70205327
>>70201362
Imagine the worst most corrupt politician you hate. Now imagine that politician with the power to spy on every man woman and child in the country. Now imagine that politician has the means to retroactively destroy anyones' character and basically character assassinate any dissidents or political opponents. Imagine that politician takes your guns away. Imagine you end up in Guantanamo bay for objecting.
Imagine how retarded you are. It's hard to imagine huh?
>>70200455
The government isn't above betraying. The government is supposed to serve the people. When it betrays the people and shuns the values it's supposed to hokdbit becomes an illegitimate government.
>>70211357
I think you don't understand what a whistleblower is
>>70211415
spies*
>>70211489
A traitor the United States government.
>>70200385
source?
where did he imply he'd execute snowden?
