Who was the better president? Obama's presidency is almost over so i think it's fair to make a comparison.
both were absolute shit, but obama was a socialist shit
>>70134353
>Bush - killed sandniggers
>Obama - imports and coddles sandniggers
No competition, tbqh.
>>70134353
Bush the worst of all time.
Obama one of the greatest.
It's not even close.
>>70134478
>Bush - killed sandniggers
>>70134353
>fair to make a comparison
Not really. Obama is still blaming bush for shit. So we should wait until 8 years after Obama is out of office and blame everything that went sour on him so we have an even playing field.
>>70134465
/thread.
Obama didn't start a pointless war that cost trillions and destabilize the entire Middle East, so I'll say him.
>>70134571
I have never heard Obama blame Bush for anything.
>>70134546
Obama would probably apologize to mudshits after 9/11 because white privilege and institutionalized racism.
>>70134353
Obama is worse.
He had his presidency in the period where the SJW degeneracy movement was really rising. And he did absolutely nothing to stop it.
I know he is a democrat, but for fucks sake there has to be a limit.
Fuck.
Fuckity fuck fuck
.
Also check them.
They are two sides of the same globalist jew coin. Separate and equally shit.
>>70134711
Good to see deaf folks have interwebs too.
>>70134694
Pretty sure that's why Republicans love Bush so much though. Republicans can't wait to send American soldiers to their deaths and squander trillions on overseas wars.
>>70134694
He did help overthrow Libya and was trying with Syria for a while though, at the behest of the same people who got us to do Afghanistan and Iraq.
>>70134821
Ok, show me then.
>>70134735
Unlike Bush, President Obama would actually take national security seriously and keep America safe.
Republicans cannot be trusted with national security. They've admitted they are incapable of keeping America safe.
>>70134711
lol remove the shit from your ears, snow nigger
>>70134546
He kept us safe
>>70134963
HE LIED
L
I
E
D
Bush on conducting a legitimate administration alone
Obama Whitehouse is a massive cluster cuck by any insider account
>>70134935
>President Obama would actually take national security seriously
By importing 100k "Syrian" """refugees""" of whom at least several hundred are Jihadists? That leaf logic.
I don't remember this many illegals when bush was president. anyone notice this?
>>70134353
Russia rose under Obama. Militant islam rose under bush. Both made huge economic mistakes but bush wasnt a narcissist and history will remember him more fondly.
>>70134853
>Thinks Libya and Syria is the same as Bush sending 5,000 American soldiers to their deaths in Iraq, 35,000 wounded, and over 100,000 with PTSD and TBI. Not to mention the trillions squandered.
You can't make up this level of mental retardation. How mentally incapacitated do you have to be to try to equate Syria and Libya with Bush's Iraq War?
>>70134495
>>70134853
Still better than Bush's record, just not by much.
Something tells me if Bush had gotten two more terms we'd be at war in Iran and Syria by now "nation building" aka civilization destroying to make room for Greater Israel
>>70135057
Both are puppets so who cares
>>70135075
President Obama has crippled Russia. They are in a massive recession. Wtf are you talking about?
>>70134353
Bush was worse but Obama was pretty bad from a social and foreign policy standpoint.
Bush Jr was a 2/10.
Obama was a 5/10. A true "meh" president.
Bushs wife is hot desu
>>70135048
>legitimate administration
You mean that cartel of reptillian shills like Rumsfeld and Cheney running everything behind the scenes?
>>70135182
Triggered
>>70134935
>Obama
>Legalize killing American on USA soil or elsewhere with drones
>Keep America Safe
>>70134694
Obama accomplished the same thing that Bush did in Iraq, but in two countries, and without spending Trillions. He's clearly superior.
>>70135081
Same shit, same agenda. Get raked.
>>70135217
This, Bush-lite is a good descriptor for this administration, like they realized how much heat they were getting and turned the burner to 'simmer' instead.
Bush was worse than Obama. You know it's true
>>70134353
Bush got 5000 people killed in the worst ever attack on American soil.
You tell me.
>>70134963
Don't you remember? When he was standing on the rubble?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1Yf7PD96V0
>>70135352
Learn how to read context faggot, that's not how I used legitimate
The point is that bush's administration was an administration and not a bunch of retards with their heads cut off
The real question is this; Who was a better president, Carl Rove or Michelle Obama?
Bush did more to destroy the country.
>>70134353
Well, Obama did not start major wars.
>>70135221
>doesn't have an argument
>shitposts
I rest my case, leaves are retarded.
Obama continued Bush's cuck legacy with more plausible deniability
>>70135278
Russia in the last few years has become economically weaker (i.e., more desperate) but geopolitically stronger. This is a bad combo
>>70135278
Arabs helped in crippling russia.
If you divided the presidents in to 3 tiers: good, meh, and shit Bush and Obama would both on the meh/shit border
>>70134353
You can't reasonably judge a Presidency until at least 20 years after they've left office. It takes a long time to really get to see all the problems one causes.
>>70135634
Ausbro is right. Russian happening when?
desu Obama beats Bush but it was really 1a and 1b.
Bush loses simply because the fucking neocon middle east war
>>70135568
>leaves
>>70135567
Don't you remember the massive invasions of Libya and Syria that Obama ordered?!
Republicans do.
>>70135758
The US was not in Libya.
>>70135568
Bush keeping us safe on 9/11 and saving the lives of thousands of Americans is my argument.
When one of the most protected buildings in the world is attacked on Obama's watch, then get back to me.
>>70135278
The Arabs crippled russia by crushing oil prices.
>>70134353
both are jewish puppets
>>70135634
>>70135695
How long till the Russian ruble is the world reserve currency?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezh5hQKI9ho
>>70135864
Shh I'm mocking them.
If you say Benghazi 3 times, they become triggered.
>>70135902
I thought Putin was playing chess while Obama was playing marbles.
That's what Republicans told me when they were cheering for Putin to succeed and Obama to fail.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezh5hQKI9ho
>>70135406
>Bush lite
Good analogy. People make a huge fuss about Obama being a socialist but really he is just as much of a corporate shill as the rest of them.
Also Obama has deported more Illegals than any other president and net migration from Mexico dropped into the negatives.
Bush had gay sex with Saudis.
Obama put bullets in their skulls.
>>70134353
US under bush fucked up other countries, US under Obama starts being fucked up itself close to the end of his rule.
>Obama fucked the west more than Bush
>>70135363
He's coming after you next.
I hope you got your survival seeds.
>>70135511
So your argument is that Bush's administration running this country into the ground on purpose was better than Obama's administration running us into the ground out of incompetence?
>>70136263
>US under bush fucked up other countries
Especially the USA
>>70134353
Bush because he wasn't trying to ruin the country. He just made a few big mistakes.
Obama ran with those mistakes though and decided to make them twice as bad.
>>70136262
Bush thanking the Saudis for 9/11.
>>70134694
Except he did, you stupid faggot. You don't even know what's happening in your own country.
>>70135352
I'm curious to see where someone who knows a damn would place Cheney. That guy was like concentrated evil. Bush Jr was an idiot who meant well, but he was definitely an idiot.
I imagine they'll pretend he doesn't exist during the next couple elections because he was so bad.
>>70136264
even better
we got the plans for the drones
>>70136462
>Obama ruining the economy by creating over 14 million jobs. 73 straight months of US job creation, the longest streak in American history.
>>70136491
Which war did Obama start that cost trillions of dollars?
>>70135902
>The Arabs crippled russia by crushing oil prices.
and also crippling them self
the only winner is he US.
You guys are cucks, both weren't terrible presidents. Bush handled 9/11 well, and had the backing of most NATO countries to invade. Obama was less hands on and appealed to most people after it was proven no WMD were present under Sadam's regime. But instead of cleaning up the mess Obama pulled out, and now we have this shitstorm of islami salamis freaking out and leaving. Hindsight is 20/20 /pol/ocks, they tried.
>>70136709
Gas prices at $1.50?
THANKS OBAMA you bastard?!
>Conservative exceptionalism
>>70136075
I don't really understand where this fellating for Putin comes in. It just seems like a lot of people that put him on a pedestal for being anti-west. Only thing he is really good at is keeping Russia as his and his friend's personal piggybanks. Past that, hes nothing special.
>>70136777
>Bush handled 9/11 well
Kek
>>70136625
Low interest rates and QE
>>70134465
FPBP
/thread
>>70136344
Great hyperbole
Obama administration has been more harmful to the image of competence of government than was bush's. Obama has conducted his administration from an entirely political standpoint
If you extrapolate it out of relativity like you are, then pretty much every administration since and including teddy Roosevelt has been shit. More than half historically have been shit under that criteria
>>70136709
US oil is in the shitter as well. Unemployed geologist here.
>>70134353
Bush was more likeable and down to earth, he joked around and wasn't a smug piece of shit, despite coming from a wealthy background, he also was athletic and energetic.
Obama is a slick media and marketing hologram, i don't think we've ever seen the real person behind his permanent mask, and that is fucking scary. Because his legacy is one of continuing war and aggression in a region of the world where millions have been slaughtered needlessly over the past decade.
Bush definitely a worse President though. 9/11 got him into two hot wars which America had no business being in, caused the budget deficit, cucked up the economy, destroyed the idea of a real new world order (of peace). I think he just got fucked by the globalists, it wasn't his fault he became a war criminal, he chose the Presidency over morality, a choice many of us might make in his position.
>>70136625
>turning full time jobs to part time jobs is more jobs guys haha
>>70136625
>job creation
Because splitting 1 full time job into several part time jobs is good for us
Fuck off leaf, ruin your own country
>>70136262
obama bows down to Saudis
eewww mate
>>70136709
Not really. Plenty of American oil companies are crashing and burning too. As are more expensive industries like fracking that were only taking off because oil was so expensive. Though to be fair, most of the ones failing were so comically badly run that the only reason they were able to stay in business in the first place was that oil was so lucrative.
The arabs that are doing this are so rich they can eat a loss for a decade without denting their bank accounts. Not really true for most other places. Thats the point. When they start letting things "correct" oil is going to skyrocket.
>>70136845
QE is over. You haven't gotten the memo?
Where's MUH hyperinflation I was promised!!
I miss the good ol days under Bush when America was losing 700,000 jobs per month.
>>70134353
Bush did 9/11. Unforgivable
Obama. First nobel peace prize winner to bomb another nobel peace prize winner. Unforgivable
Why compare a shit to a turd?
>>70136462
>Bush wasn't trying to ruin the country
>implying dubya wasn't the biggest zionist shill of them all
Both are the same, Bush never left.
Bush never even dropped out either, he's in drag on the Democratic side and in the form of Cruz and Kasich on the Republican side.
>>70136943
Obama job creation 95% full time.
Another right wing lie debunked. What else ya got?
>>70136985
Bush making out with them is better.
>>70136896
>caused the budget deficit
The main driver of the budget deficit is and was entitlements
To say a lack of government income is the reason is retarded when entitlements will be inevitably higher than any possible income at the current rate of increase
>inb4 housing crisis
>>70136963
Not accurate. More jobs are being fused into hybrid jobs these days than anything else. Thats where people are losing full time work. Not it being split into part time jobs.
>>70134694
Just because Obama didn't declare war doesn't mean he isn't a shitty neocon war monger all the same.
>>70137094
Usually work full time could mean 51%. ;^)
obama better.
I hate the current candidates so much on both sides, i'd probably vote him a third term if I could.
plus, bush did 9/11
>>70137036
What is amazing is that Obama has nowhere to go but up and he's struggling to do that
You have to try to fuck up that badly
>>70134353
Obama was a bad president but Bush was downright terrible. He started the Iraq war which is probably going to go down as the most retarded move in all modern history.
>>70134353
Honestly Obama. Bush's massive fuck up in Iraq, massive inaction on the looming financial crisis and massive kow-towing to Israeli and Saudi interests is unforgivable.
This does not mean Obama is good, it's just that GWBush is honestly one of the worst presidents we've ever had. The only ones that are worse, that come to mind, are Buchanan and LBJ.
>>70136896
This is rich. Its well known that Bush was a lot smarter and more eloquent than he acted. It was all a show to appeal to the masses. That you act like Bush was captain honestly about himself and Obama is just smoke screens is ridiculous. They are both fake as shit.
>>70137094
You retard,
You do realize if you work two part-time jobs that exceed 38 hours both part time jobs are classified as full time?
>>70136963
95% of Obama job creation has been full time and job openings are at all time highs.
How are you not able to find a job Trumptard?
America has near record 5.6 million job openings
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/09/news/economy/america-5-6-million-record-job-openings/
>>70134917
I'm honestly disappointed that I can't find a blame bush compilation on YouTube. He's done it so fucking much. Missed opportunity right there.
>>70137140
>not being split
Not literally, but part time Jobs are going up in lieu of full time jobs
Full time jobs are marginally much more expensive
>>70134353
compare puppets not address puppeteer
>>70137333
>do realize if you work two part-time jobs that exceed 38 hours both part time jobs are classified as full time?
Source?
>>70134353
Obama is just Bush in makeup.
LOOK CLOSER!!!
THE JEW IS PLAYING US ALL FOR FOOLS!
>>70136985
>oil
>>70135882
Except that after 9/11 (which was Bill Clintons fault..) no one even thought about fucking with us for years after
Nowadays we have terrorist attacks then we just sweep it under the rug and have Obama claiming that Islam is a religion of peace
>>70137238
200,000 jobs per month and 73 straight months of job creation is somehow "struggling".
The Obama economy has created 14x more jobs than the Bush economy.
The Republicans are the failures. The only reason you people vote Republican is because you want the US economy to fail.
>>70137519
>Blaming 9/11 on any one person
Fuck off, it wasn't Bill's or Bush's fault
Bush. America couldn't have been prouder as a whole under his nationalist administration and policies. With Obama, the country is literally tearing itself apart. This election couldn't be more of a red flag where people with opposing political views openly attack each other in the streets.
>>70134846
>have an army
>not use it
You would think that, snownigger.
>>70137460
The number of full time jobs being "created" is increasing fine. The problem is, they are being hybridized, so for every 2 "new" full time jobs, only one person is actually getting employed.
>>70134917
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/the-blame-game-at-its-finest-21-times-obama-has-passed-the-buck/
>>70136943
>Saving thumbnails
How retard must a cuckservative be?
>>70136963
>>70137094
And i don't think Obama ca even do that, splitting jobs, lol
>>70135882
>us
Fuck off, you aren't part of the greater empire on earth cuck.
>>70134495
The crash wasn't Bush's fault and Obama never fixed the economy in any way. He made the exact same mistakes as they've always done and they're going to see a crash again because of it
>>70137333
The Spectacular Myth of Obama's Part-Time America—in 5 Graphs
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/02/the-spectacular-myth-of-obamas-part-time-america-in-5-graphs/283674/
What kind of twisted conservative math do you have to do in your head to try to figure that Obama's 14.4 million private sector jobs is LESS than Bush's 1.1 million?
READ THE CHART AND WEEP BITCH.
>>70137482
He has none. Right wingers just make shit up. They're idiots.
>>70136993
>they can eat a loss for a decade
they can't, they could if oil still would have been at 100$+
They burn through so much money it isn't even funny, if there is no significant raise and their war efforts, like syria and yemen don't come to an and they could be bankrupt in 2019/20
Their war efforts are not even the main problem, its that ~40% of saudi native population doesn't work and is subsidized by the government aka petrodollar.
Also the Iranians don't give a fuck they export like mad, they haven't made a legal dollar in a few decades, they now shit on the market to get whatever they can, bonus is that it hurts the saudis which they are at war anyway.
>>70137582
Well Bush was president for only about a year.., You do the math..
How come every single time I go into a thread about Obama, there's the same Canadian autist posting the same images at all points of the day?
>>70137519
Eh that's cheap imo. No one ever thinks about fucking us, even before Bush. The only ones that do are suicidal fringe groups like ISIS and Al-Qaeda. Also given the opportunity, these groups would commit another 9/11. It's just that accomplishing that scale of destruction is extremely difficult for decentralized orgs like Islamic terrorist groups.
People forget how fucking lucky the 9/11 attackers were. I doubt they'll match that luck ever again regardless of who is president. Paris and San Bernardino are the new model for terrorist attacks.
>>70137519
>>70137582
It was Bush's fault. End of story.
It was the biggest intelligence blunder in human history. It will cost Republicans the White House for the next 100 years.
>>70137519
>(which was Bill Clintons fault..)
AHAHHAHA thinks Bill Clinton was President on 9/11/01.
Right wingers are the biggest morons on the planet. I swear to god.
Bush was warned BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE IN THE UNITED STATES.
He ignored the warning and went fishing.
https://fas.org/irp/cia/product/pdb080601.pdf
Thanks for admitting Republicans are incapable of keeping America safe. America is defenseless during a Republican administration. All they can do is watch America be attacked by terrorists, and blame Democrats for it. That's all Republicans can do.
>>70137674
He doesn't name Bush in any of those....literally.
>>70137849
Except Bush won a second term.. You're full of shit
Repubs already won elections since 2012 too
>>70137163
Every nation fight political undeclared wars with each other.
The most famous was the cold war. There was also Germany with France ever since germany was united. My country and Spain for 80% of our existence...
They were pretty much the same desu.
>>70137780
>Bill caused 9/11 with his mere presence as president
>>70134353
Dubya was a lot better, from my personal experience. Obama's policies and direction directly led to Ferguson and pretty much every other chimpout we've seen in the last few years. Dubya united us, Obama divided us. It's kind of as simple as that.
>>70137929
>implying dems are any better
Wow you're are a big faggot and your opinion is automatically disgarded
>>70136896
yeah right! the idiot is more likable and even though he was worse president he made choices the average 4chan user could make, so it's forgiven!
it's like saying Hoover was better than FDR. are you retarded
>>70137094
>>70136625
Fuck man is it your job to post this shit? You always post the same graphs too.
Bush is shit because iraq war but Obama is just as bad
>>70137929
Btw America is not at all safe from 8 years of Obama. I feel pretty terrified for the white race. But you're a DUDE WEED LMAO what would you know?
>>70134353
When someone's ass shits on you in a consistent manner, which buttock is more responsible?
>>70137798
Shills. or bots.
>>70138063
They are. No 9/11 on Obama's watch. Tyvm.
The largest terrorist attack in American history, the worst foreign policy blunder, and the worst economic crisis since the Republican Great Depression all occurred during the last Republican administration.
Yeah let's try that again...
How much do you have to hate America to vote Republican?
>>70138042
He ignored every warning and didn't prepare Bush for what was about to come. You'll blame Bush but Obama bailing out the auto industry.. nah thats not his fault
Fuck off libtard
>>70137714
>what is a boom bust cycle
>>70138263
>How much do you have to hate America to vote Republican?
You have to not be a socialist commie for one thing
Why do liberals keep enabling Muslims then? What good will that do?
>>70138154
>I feel pretty terrified for the white race
That's because you're a beta cuck conservative white male.
Losers like you make me embarrassed to be a white male.
>>70137759
They have massive cash reserves m8, plus they literally have the largest Sovereign Wealth Fund in the world, and this is just their public money, who knows how much they have stashed in shell corps.
They can weather this storm for a very, very, long time. And it's in their long term interests to do so. Cheap oil does so many things for Saudi interests. It kills off the US shale boom. It greatly hurts it's chief geopolitical rivals like Iran, Russia and Syria. It puts a pause on renewables growth. It'll probably extend the Oil Age (and thus Saud's international relevancy) for a decade at least. It is a win, win, win for the house of Saud.
I don't think it'll end anytime soon.
>>70134711
Try watching American news for the first four years of the bastards regime.
It was a never ending parade of blame Bush.
>>70137963
>Bush won a second term.
Via abject fraud in Florida. Bush is the main reason Trump is about to crater the GOP and make them irrelevant for the foreseeable future.
Enjoy.
>>70137798
>>70137930
He blamed Bush for the "fast and furious" scandal for one thing
Bush:
>Cracked down on rioters
Obama:
>Cracked down on people trying to stop riots
Bush:
>Brought representative government to Iraq, suppressed militants
Obama:
>Let militants run wild, let representative governments get assraped by theocratic militias, imported nightly bombings into western countries
Bush:
>Signed a act against prison rape
Obama:
>Expanded existing laws to redefine all male college students as rapists
Bush:
>Landed a fighter jet on an aircraft carrier at sea to celebrate the ousting of Saddam Hussein
Obama:
>Played golf to celebrate the Islamic rape of Europe
Bush:
>Returned a government surplus to the public. inb4 commies credit Clinton while congress (R at the time) controls the purse strings.
Obama:
>Burdened the public with financial debts, blood feuds, and undeclared wars with tribes we created at great expense
Bush:
>USA is hated by communists, cucks, and Islamic theocrats
Obama
>USA becomes a communist cuck Islamic theocracy, and is hated by absolutely everyone including the above.
G.W. Bush is like having your knees scraped on an impact with pavement. Barack Obama is like jumping out of a flying aircraft with a lead parachute.
>>70137930
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/11/14/after-paris-attacks-democratic-candidates-blame-bush-for-isis
>>70137929
>gross mischaracterization of intelligence opinion
>gross mischaracterization and oversimplification of economics
>Canadians elect a retard who also does these things
>>70138386
Link please. Can't find anything on Google. Sounds like there is a lot though.
>>70138340
Obama enabled muslims by killing Osama Bin Laden.
Bush enabled muslims by letting pic related happen.
>>70138263
>Republican Great Depression
>Democrats and HUD force banks to grant loans and mortgages to people who have absolutely no chance to pay them back over a period of twenty years
>Warned several times that this idea was stupid
>It's fine
>It wasn't fine
>Republicans, why did you do this to us? Clearly it was your fault because banks= greedy republicans, even though every major player on Wall Street votes democrat
Maybe, I dunno, go fuck yourself or something, leaf.
>>70135882
>>70135882
Can't crash planes on Canada because no one gives a fuck about the Canadian alps!
>>70138406
>Via abject fraud in Florida
Lol something that happened BEFORE Bush got elected? And had nothing to do with it being fraud at all?
You liberals are beyond fucking retarded. Enjoy your regime with your cock sucking kike corrupted Hillary Clinton as president. Hope you enjoy Sharia law you cuck
>>70134353
Both absolute shit.
>>70138263
>no 9/11 on obama's watch
>what is expansion of intelligence apparatus
>>70134806
Stop the SJW movements?
He helped create them.
>>70138406
Truth be told, the Bush dynasty is nothing short of treachery. But ITT we compare Bush to Obama.
W wasn't the death of the Republican party. W was a cancerous tumor's retarded son, failing to spread the cancer into new generations.
I think Iraq explains the answer well enough.
>>70138465
ISIS leader al-Baghdadi was released by Bush in 2004
http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-leader-al-baghdadi-was-released-by-bush-2004-not-by-obama-2009
>>70138465
Did you read it? Obama never said anything about Bush.
>>70134353
They both wasted a ton of money and expanded the government but at least Bush Jr. wasn't a nasty 2-face about it.
>>70138650
>1984-style tracking everywhere you go
>terrorism is now a sport for everyone
>>70138483
>Canadians elect a retard who also does these things
Actually I hope you guys elect another Republican president so he can crash your economy again and our dollar will go back to par.
>>70134353
They are 100% the same. Clinton will be the 8th term of the globalists.
>>70138353
>canadian being ashamed of being male
Why am I not surprised.
>>70138650
Not 9/11
>>70137563
>constantly quotes misleading, cooked jobs numbers.
>ignores other measures of the US economy that are absolutely abysmal.
You are a dedicated moron.
>>70138353
Leafs like you that suck any minority cock makes me sick. Do you have any balls at all are you just a fucking spineless coward?
If you step foot in American soil i'll shoot you like a dog you massive fucking faggot. You're telling me I am a beta male?
Go prep the bull you fucking parasite
>>70138483
>>gross mischaracterization
Prove it.
Republicans are the opposite of keeping America safe. Trump's rhetoric has already doomed hundreds to pointless, fiery death.
>>70138788
Learn how to read, kangaroo fucker
>>70138780
Hope you enjoy Sharia law that your precious faggot PM will be enacting in a few years.
You better turn gay or turn MTF because White men will be illegal in Canada soon
>>70138780
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YftGSdS9o9k
>>70137689
Splitting jobs was more a reference to That full time is at expense and less than full time is in growth
The fact you faggots keep linking to increases like the market wouldn't rebound regardless of who is president is laughable
Canada fag also routinely ignores the concept of relativity
And all of you faggots ignore how numbers calculated have been redefined under this administration
And I couldn't begin to impart the notion of long term and delayed effects to you cucks either
>>70138445
/thread
>>70138902
Ooohhh I bet you love Hillary Clinton don't you? That's all I have to say to end your shit argument. Anyone who thinks Trump is worse than Hillary is delusional and should be executed.
>>70138780
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
how does it feel being number 11 still? GDP growth has been terrible I'll give you that, but this is under Obama's administration.
>>70138865
>constantly quotes misleading, cooked jobs numbers.
Source?
Like I said, the US is creating over 200,000 jobs per month and job openings are at record highs.
The only losers who can't jobs in this economy are Republicans and Trumptards who are too far gone and too fucked in the head to be employable.
You losers have to tell yourselves that the real unemployment rate is 42% just to make yourselves feel better. That's fucking sad.
Donald Trump says the unemployment rate may be 42 percent
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/30/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-unemployment-rate-may-be-42-perc/
PANTS ON FIRE
>>70134495
are you retarded? it takes at least like 5 years AFTER a presidents presidency for their policies to take effect... just like the real shit from obamas presidency will rear its head during hillary's presidency.
>>70138997
>>70138578
Osama was fucking nothing. That was like 12 years later you fucking dumbass. By then ISIS was coming up. Osama was irrelevant as fuck by then.
Obama does nothing but justify muslims and suck their cocks. There is no denying that. You are beyond fucking delusional.
Unless you can show me proof that Obama doesn't constantly justify the actions of Islam or Muslims, then I hope you die.
>>70137163
bush didnt declare war either shit for brains
not supporting obama but what the fuck are u talking about
>>70139041
You have to be 18 to post here.
>>70139134
>trump said this
oh it's you again
nobody said shit about trump
>>70137094
>Democrat Congress, downward spiral
>2010, wave election, Tea Party Movement
>Job creation
GUISE IT WAS CLEARLY OBAMA
Do you have absolutely any idea how the American federal government works?
>>70139057
Us economy is amazing right now. I'd move there in a second. Obama has been an amazing president. Shame he can't run for a 3rd term.
I don't know why Republicans are so desperate to destroy the economy again.
>>70139177
>Has the population of one of the United States' 50 states.
>jealous
Keep thinking that, leaf.
>>70138445
>>USA becomes a communist cuck Islamic theocracy, and is hated by absolutely everyone including the above.
Is this what cuckservatives actually believe?
>>70139217
And you have to be above 65 or lack a college degree to vote for trump.
>>70138763
>intelligence apart from that tracking hasn't massively mproved
>terrorism has gotten worse
Why can't you idiots understand relativity? Yes terrorism is worse, largely from toppling various regimes and expansion of power of terrorist organizations and ideology. That acknowledged, the intelligence around tracking terrorists have vastly improved. Part of the reason it sucks in Europe is both a lack of funding to war counterintelligence and a lack of political will to want to enforce anything against mudslimes.
>>70138851
>not 9/11
You're missing a point there faggot
Itd be great if you were implying the apparatus was set up or has anything to do with obama
>>70139280
Do you own a cowboy hat?
>>70139217
>>70139435
HERR DURR thats not an argument faggot
You like Hillary don't you? Stop side stepping the issue with your cuck "ARE YOU KIDDING ME" bullshit you fucking piece of shit
>>70138406
The florida shit happened in 2000 buddy, not 2004. Also it's been massively overblown. There is a reason the Supreme Court ruled in Bush's favor. There wasn't much evidence of voter fraud.
>>70139135
> takes at least like 5 years AFTER a presidents presidency for their policies to take effect..
Seriously when you're this mentally handicapped, shouldn't you just kill yourself?
Do you actually think that when Obama passes a massive stimulus program 2009 to avoid another Republican Great Deperssion and get Americans back to work, that the Americans don't actually go back to work until the NEXT president.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Recovery_and_Reinvestment_Act_of_2009
When Bush cuts taxes for the rich, you actually think that they don't get their tax cuts until the next president?
When Bush sends 5,000 American soldiers to die in Iraq, they don't actually die until the next president?
I can't begin to describe the level of mental retardation that you suffer from.
>>70139134
>keeps ignoring booms and busts
>quotes donald trump as a source of any sort of legitimacy
is obama the illegitimate child of a bush?
they look so similar.
>>70139332
>us economy is amazing
Relative to your shithole, everyone here thinks it's garbage
>>70139475
HAHAHAHAHA SO FUNNY
Jesus you people need to be shot. All you have is redneck jokes? Or rearranging someones name like a 2 year old?
Keep going, it makes you look like a pathetic fucking child
>>70139520
>There is a reason the Supreme Court ruled in Bush's favor.
Yeah. Republican majority on the FSC.
>>70138406
>any and every subsequent measure of vote counting became more and more in bush's favor
>implying the fraud wasn't democrats and it was stripped away after people started watching closely
>>70138406
>any and every subsequent measure of vote counting became more and more in bush's favor
>implying the fraud wasn't democrats and it was stripped away after people started watching closely
>>70139490
I like Bernie and Hillary is 'okay.'
>>70139717
>>70139741
Are you having a stroke?
>>70139338
>Has the population of one of the United States' 50 states.
Didn't know you love California so much.
Put another way, Canada has the same population as the 20 least populated states.
Again, like I said, I would move to the US in a second to enjoy the fruits of the thriving Obama economy.
Bush is directly responsible for the rise of IS and other terrorist groups around the world.
>>70139475
No cowboy hat
No rascal scooter
Sorry.
>>70139525
>The stimulus
Oh lawd
>doesn't understand the concept of delayed consequence
5 years is of course not hard and fast, and there are exceptions, but goddamn you're fucking retarded
>>70139799
Can you post evidence how our economy is "thriving"? Don't post stupid bullshit graphs because they are garbage. Post actual evidence
All we have is part time jobs and Affirmative action. Shaqueesha has a better chance at a job than a white male.. You're a fucking moron shill and I hope you lose your shitty job
>>70134963
haha, no he didnt
>>70139525
no, i belive YOURE the mentally challenged one because you cant into critically thinking
what do you think is going to happen after all that stimulus money runs out? yeah thats gonna have a negative side effect AFTER he leaves office u fucking moron
obamacare? yeah that's gonna pop up in the next presidency as well
any economic policies passed by any president take FOREVER to show any real change... usually like 5-10 years
god dammit you're a fucking moron
>>70139797
Double posting because my network keeps switching and fucking the posts up
>>70135729
Learn English.
>>70139536
>>keeps ignoring booms and busts
So you're saying the US economy will crash this year in Obama's last year, like it did in Bush's last year?
Funny how the booms always occur under Democrats and the busts under Republicans.
"Under Republicans, recessions happen four times as frequently as under Democrats."
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/22/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-recessions-more-frequent-under-rep/
>The numbers back up Clinton’s claim since World War II: Of the 49 quarters in recession since 1947, eight occurred under Democrats, while 41 occurred under Republicans.
>>70139799
Why don't you?
>>70139882
I didn't bring up the Rascal. You did.
How long have you owned a cowboy hat?
>>70139904
>there are exceptions
I have a feeling your idea of "exception" is "whenever a president I hate is in office" for "good" policy, and "whenever a president I like is in office" for a "bad" policy, you can freely blame the good on presidents you like and the bad on presidents you don't.
>>70135864
We blew the sit out of them and had CIA train and send weapons, what are you smoking?
>>70139968
>what do you think is going to happen after all that stimulus money runs out?
The stimulus has already run out. Years ago. The economy is doing fine on its own.
You're clearly the retarded one.
A leaf knows more about your own country than you do.
>>70139475
No. Do you own a dragon dildo?
>>70139134
>asking for sources
>uses politifact as a source
>picture of $30K job, implying one can survive off that
How much are you getting paid to shit post?
Its obvious the statement by trump is hyperbolic.
Please look at labor force participation rates for a better picture of life in the US right now.
We're in a fake recovery created by federal reserve manipulation. All the economic indicators are horrible, the stock market is in the twilight zone rallying on bad economic news in hope of more QE from the fed.
Look how the markets reacted to the .25% rate increase at the beginning of the year.
Mouse fuckers shouldn't comment on things they don't understand. Why are you so obsessed with US politics? I couldn't give less fucks about Canada.
>>70140058
Whats wrong with a cowboy hat? You gonna do something if I say I do?
>>70139866
The plan for iraqi stability including keeping American assets there that was usurped
Bush didn't do libya and syria, both of which are unconstitutional. Bush's was was sanctioned by Congress
>>70140043
How?
I want to do it legally.
>>70140116
I see. What kind of cowboy hat?
Wyhat's the big seller these days?
>>70140111
Except you've shown no proof at all whatsoever. Heresay means jackshit you fucking faggot. Now go off yourself you waste of sperm
>>70139799
yea that leaf money sure is doing great right now
>>70140058
No cowboy hat for me. I'm not a 9/11 America Defender.
>>70140215
>>70140215
How about if I dump your body after I mutilate you in my cowboy hat? hows that sound you fucking massive piece of shit faggot?
>>70140081
Noone cares about your bellyfeels
Virtually all legislation has delayed effects, whether by design or reaction to the change. It doesn't even have to be bad, you're just projecting
>>70140111
>economy is doing fine
no it isnt. there is a shit ton of people who still cant find jobs. there's two of us saying youre a fucking moron, because you are and you dont fucking live here and dont know whats really going on so shut your fucking syrup gargling mouth and concentrate on your DEWD WEED faggot
clinton's success was due to reagans policies. bush's economy was a result of clinton policies. obamas presidency was a result of bush's policies... and hillary's policies will be a result of obamas shit.
get rekt faggot
>>70140215
I get it, you don't own a dragon dildo. It must have been too difficult to give up the feel of natural cock in your rectum.
>>70140164
>cowboy hat
You tell me.
>>70140291
Nice discrimination you racist
>>70139799
>fruits of an economy recovering despite obama's implementations
Fixed for you faggot
>>70140483
No you tell me you fucking faggot. What are you gonna do about it? You have a problem?
>>70134353
Bush was a literal disaster.
Obama's done pretty well, all in all. I'm honestly really confused how butthurt the right is over him. I guess it's just the illness.
It's always the same Canadian shill. In every thread. With the same weird filenames.
I vote we ban him. All in favor, respond with "Aye".
>>70140184
You're not welcome here.
We have enough idiot voters, we don't need another.
>>70140367
Sure, but your time tables are selfserving.
>>70140245
I've shown proof throughout this thread.
Wtf are you complaining about?
This is pretty general knowledge.
Why are you making your stupidity my problem?
>, and more than 90 percent of ARRA’s
budgetary impact was realized by the end of December
2011.
http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/02-22-ARRA.pdf
Educate yourself.
>>70140590
Can you prove whats so good about obama? or are you just going to insult people?
republican obstructionism has dampened Obama's overall standing and will definitely hurt his legacy, so you have to give them that. congressional republicans act like 5yr olds when they don't get their way. there really is no question as to who was the better president unless you're drinking from Rush's kool-aid. Obama's centrist policies are more in tune with keeping the American ship running smoothly without taking any drastic steps, and even when it came to Obamacare, he conceded many points to Republicans. Bush really was the worst US president in modern times.
>>70140273
It's up since Trudeau entered office.
Here's what Harper did to the Canadian dollar. Pic related.
Typical conservative exceptionalism.
>>70140741
Thats not proof. Try again dumb fuck
>>70140448
>x was successful strictly because of y
You're almost as dumb as the fucking leaf
The president's policies, which are really the product of congress, only affect the economy negatively or not negatively. Barring taking shit from another country by force there is very little the government can do to spurn growth themselves
>>70134353
They are the same one party of Corruption, Empire, War, and support British models of Trade & Finance.
list of free trade agreements of which the United States is part. In parentheses, the abbreviation, if applicable, membership if not stated before, and the date of coming into force are to be seen.
1985 - Israel-United States Free Trade Agreement (incl. Palestinian Authority)
1994 - North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA)
2001 - Jordan-United States Free Trade Agreement
2004 - Australia-United States Free Trade Agreement
2004 - Chile-United States Free Trade Agreement
2004 - Singapore-United States Free Trade Agreement
2006 - Bahrain-United States Free Trade Agreement
2006 - Morocco-United States Free Trade Agreement
2006 - Oman-United States Free Trade Agreement
2007 - Peru-United States Trade Promotion Agreement
2005 - DR-CAFTA; incl. Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, and the Dominican Republic)
2012 - Panama-United States Trade Promotion Agreement
2012 - United States-Colombia Free Trade Agreement
2012 - United States-Republic of Korea Free Trade Agreement
1980 - Most favored Nation Status for China (J. Carter)
1984 - Caribbean Basin Initiative,
1994 - WTO Formed, Marrakech Agreement
1994 - War on Jobs, NAFTA,
1994 - Most Favored Nation Status for China Reinstated after Tianamen Square
1996 - Most Favored Nation Status for China Reinstated after Test
2000 - Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China and WTO Membership for China
2005 - CAFTA-DR Ratified, 2006
2016 - TPP Finally signed 4 February 2016
Economy based on Credit and Debt is slavery when there is no Domestic Investment or Protection of Jobs and the Middle Class let alone the Labor Rights or Labor Laws.
>>70139134
http://www.statista.com/statistics/192361/unadjusted-monthly-number-of-full-time-employees-in-the-us/
According to that site, only 122 million people in the US are full time workers. The total population in the US is 322 million according to http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/robert-schlesinger/articles/2016-01-05/us-population-in-2016-according-to-census-estimates-322-762-018
So basically 200 million people are unaccounted for. I doubt the country has that many retirees and children. Would another anon like to take a crack at these numbers and figure out why only a third of the population takes care of the other 2/3?
>>70140693
but I'm a WHITE MALE.
Do you think Maralago will hire me?
They do only hire foreigners after all.
Trump's Mar-a-Lago hires hundreds of foreign workers
http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/18/news/economy/trump-maralago/index.html
>>70140483
>>70140590
Dont forget to prep the bull. Your wifes boyfriend will be pissed!
>>70140686
>free speech for me but not for thee
>>70140786
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