France has gone full retard on prostitution.
MPs voted 64-12 to criminalise paying for sex. People who do will be fined £1,200/€1,500 on the first offence, and €3,750 for the second offence which would go down on their criminal record; they'll also be made to attend classes about the harms of prostitution.
Being paid for sex, however, is legal in France.
France joins Sweden, Norway, Iceland and Northern Ireland in criminalising consumers rather than prostitutes.
The bill was introduced by the Socialists, of course. Back in 2003 Sarkozy was doing the opposite: he was making it illegal to stand in known prostitution areas in trashy clothing.
But there's more:
The new bill will also make it easier for illegal immigrant prostitutes to stay in France as long as they join government programmes to get them into legal work.
In France, prostitution itself – receiving money for sex - is not a crime. But activities around it are. Laws prohibit pimping, human trafficking and buying sex from a minor. Brothels were outlawed in 1946.
Imagine if police forces criminalised buying drugs and not dealing drugs. That would be the equivalent to this prostitution law.
FULL KEK. DISGUSTING SJW. SCUM. GLOBALIST SCUM. END THE SJW SCOURGE. HEADS WILL ROLL. CHOOSE WHICH SIDE YOU'RE ON.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/06/france-passes-law-illegal-to-pay-for-sex-criminalise-customers
>that chick on the cross
holy shit I'd pay not to sleep with that
>>70128857
why dont they just make it illegal to be a criminal like sweden did? its extremely effective
>>70128857
>having sex
>wanting STDs
ok
>>70128857
>French /r9k/ users doomed to permavirginity
>>70128857
France without its national symbol the whore? This is an outrage!
How does this in anyway benefit the prostitutes if it's illegal for customers to pay for their services?
Also, another situation where the person doing the crime (the prostitute) is not seen as being responsible for their own actions.
>>70128857
it should be illegal to be paid for sex.
Good. Seeking prostitutes is degenerate behavior and it ought to be punished.
>>70128857
You know what, freedom is for faggots. Ban paying for sex
>>70128857
>boohoo the post
>>70128857
>there are still /pol/acks who deny that our biggest enemies are women
So can I just fuck the prostitute and not pay? Wouldn't her demanding payment be contribution to a crime?
>>70129321
>How does this in anyway benefit the prostitutes
Being a whore is bad. It benefits the whores by forcing them to stop being whores.
>>70129610
>accidentally drop sum of cash
>"whoops I dropped 62 dollars! If I was hypothetically paying for anal sex from a Polish prostitute, that sure would mean I should get 2 dollars in change!"
>whistles and looks aloof
>>70129099
I'd definitely pay to sleep with her. In fact I think I am in love
Watch the rates of rape increase
>>70128857
Pretty old news mate, but who cares, prostitutes and their customers are fucking degenerates.
Who needs prostitutes when you can convert to Islam and rape whoever you like without consequences.
>>70129864
Jesus Germany, get some taste
>>70128857
85% of French prostitutes have been trafficked. You really want slavery and rape to continue?
In addition to paying 1200 pounds, also put the people who pay for sex in the middle of a public square for the children to laugh at and the women to spit on an the men to make pictures.
>>70129321
>Also, another situation where the person doing the crime (the prostitute) is not seen as being responsible for their own actions.
Just another case of treating women like children. I don't mind treating women like children, myself, but I object to treating them like children and at the same time shouting about how equal they are.
>>70129369
THIS
Finally /pol/ embraces the truth that Hitler and the Nazi regime were degenerate filth.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_military_brothels_in_World_War_II
>>70128857
Good for you, france, but you are kinda backward.
We have this law since 2014. It's 2016, come on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Canada
>>70130076
This
>>70128857
Their body, their choice.
>>70128857
What constitutes paying for sex?
Is it a cash transaction implicitly for sex?
Is it okay if I give her drugs or buy her dinner?
This makes no sense, and the idea of payment in exchange for sex being illegal opens a lot of doors to abuse. How do you even prove that shit?
Can't some dumb bitch just take a picture of herself holding up money next to cum dripping from her cunt and claim she was paid to have sex?
Can I pay for someone else to have sex with someone? Does that mean it's illegal to make porn now because we have to pay people to have sex?
>>70130096
shut up you whore
>>70129858
Would make prostitution more fun.
Drop whatever's in your pockets, get a surprise when you find out what your (lost) money is worth in terms of sexual acts.
>>70130096
>85% of French prostitutes have been trafficked. You really want slavery and rape to continue?
How terrible. Perhaps we should just open the borders so prostitutes won't suffer alone.
>>70128857
They wont ban TERRORISTS from entering the county but they will ban whores.
Nicely done.
>>70130340
Was just thinking that. Webcam girls and pornstars are putting up their Amazon wishlists and shit now. What if I gave a prostitute a new couch or a gift in exchange for sex?
>polishing brass on the Titanic
Just a few more years until the caliphate and they'll be laughing at you when they teach their children about the kuffar nation that committed suicide.
>>70129232
Basically their reputation during WWI.
>>70128857
Cruz is appalled by this draconian attempt to shut down the free market
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOxsnOG0VYo
>>70128857
Why not criminalize both?
>>70130447
They're not banning whores at all, just banning evil men from partaking in whores.
If you want to have easy sex just convert to Islam and rape women like everyone else.
>>70131155
Why not just forget this and focus on the """""refugee""""" issue?
>>70131535
Even better.
Not gonna happen with their gov tho
>>70129232
I just thought that was United States most important national symbol!
-Everyone
>>70128857
>criminalize paying money for sex
>prostitutes will of course still exist
>drive the whole industry underground and further out of reach of law enforcement as prostitutes and clients both attempt to circumvent the new laws and create a safe place for transactions to occur
>no safe and legal place for legal sex workers to congregate and create a viable business
>illegal activity, corruption and disease skyrocket in this new black market realm
>progress
is europe really this fucking retarded? Australia possesses a horrific nanny government with absurd fucking laws almost as bad as the uk. but the practice of safe sex is still held much higher than the ideals of militant feminists, thereby allowing legal bordellos where consenting men and women can legally exchange money for sex under regulated safe sex laws. What on earth is wrong with this?
>>70129099
>>70129864
not a chick ;)
>>70129160
I'm ok with you getting aids so other people can have sex.
>>70129864
GERMANY
YES
>>70130460
It doesn't make any sense. It's like asking a drug dealer to turn in the person he sells drugs to.
>>70130734
An older gentleman friend of mine was stationed in france after WW11 and told me he used to date a nurse that also worked as a prostitute. France without prostitution is not France, i'm sorry.
>>70129728
this
hopefully some whores not 2fargone will reverse their whorish ways
but mabye thats not in female nature
>>70128857
Probably because they regard prostitute as a victim,right?
Just like a woman who goes for abortion,right?
I swear,I long for the full blown NatSoc dictatorship.
>>70128857
i never payed to rape desu
>>70130096
>85% of French prostitutes are not French
fify
its pretty sad, because french women fuck like demons.
most hookers are Ukrainian, Russian and Romanian.
they're tasteless and boring.
And while on the topic of French prostitutes...
>>70131421
This.
>>70132804
>>70132804
what am i looking at ?
>oppressing a womans sexuality
>they'll also be made to attend classes about the harms of prostitution.
I'm curious to see what they say those are
>>70128857
>French Police try to setup sting operation.
>client comes to see a female officer
>she asks for money
>say will pay afterwards
>have sex with her, cum on her face
>she asks for money
>sorry honey, it's illegal to pay for sex
>>70128857
THATS JUST RETARDED
>>70131609
>crickets chirping
Costa Rica (or shitty Mexico) might be the worst shitposter guys.
>>70133667
Haha!!
>>70128857
Buying her a dinner counts as paying for sex?
>>70128857
>France Bans Paying For Sex
Hookers for free. Noice
So, would you get a more severe penalty, if you paid for the whore or if you ran off without paying?
Ex pimp here. These laws never actually help the whores that white knights create them for. Still, I ain't complaining. More money for dudes like me. Dumb fucks never learn. Haha.
>>70128857
I think it's the same in UK, where women can sell sex unless it's a brothel but the purchaser can't buy it.
However, escort services operate all over UK and sites like Adultwork because they are selling their time, and if sex should occur between the consenting adults, that's fine but not actually paid for.
Roasties get protected yet again. When will it end?
>>70128857
This is good. Excellent.
It marks a move away from the prey breeding strategy and into the predator strategy.
This is central to the liberal conservative struggle.
>>70134449
Rick Wilson's son is that you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Gw-VdcEJM
>>70129864
german bro into the tranny meat
>>70128857
That's one shitty law.
Firstly, how can you prove the client paid for the sexual acts and not simply the time he spent with the woman?
Secondly, how does this help the women when they are simply forbidden their profession and thus may be pushed further into the underground?
Thirdly, how does something like that fight human trafficking and exploitation? Wouldn't it be smarter to have law enforcement focus on the mistreatment of the women, even if they are in the country illegally?
>>70128857
Hey niggers.
In the end people will give more money to the government due to fines and countless whores will lose jobs and stop paying taxes. Smart as fuck. Let stupid people starve. After all they deserve it.
>>70128857
B... but it is already a crime to buy drug
>>70128857
>France joins Sweden, Norway, Iceland and Northern Ireland in criminalising consumers rather than prostitutes.
Because women are only victims, never guilty.
>>70134449
>>70135362
So White Knights just suck is what I'm supposed to take out of this?
What if I pay for an escort, and she offers a "donation" offer of sex?
Technically I wouldnt be buying sex, it would just be perks of being a donator. Like kickstarter.
Canada has had the same law for a while now
It's all just government officials trying to feel good about themselves for "banning" prostitution, while not actually banning prostitution, because that would be "anti woman"
The whole thing is a nonsensical leftist/feminist ego trip.
>>70135534
Always. Fuck assholes who try to regulate other peoples lives.
Why does society hate men with poor social skills?
This means virgin males who can't meet women will stay Virgins forever unless they pay a lot more to travel and get sex.
I feel sorry for those men and the hatred they receive.
>>70130965
For his type, free market is fine as long as it doesn't get in the way of his puritan beliefs, in which cast the government must act immediately to save your soul.
>>70128857
>Internet shopping
>Private meeting
>Secret transaction
Boom. Problem fucking solved.
It can only reach street workers' clients and it's not like this law will be applied.
Even if it was, it would only be for the State to get money. But that's a problem since clients are fixing the terms of the transaction, putting prostitutes at a greater disadvantage.
Feminists being feminists.
>>70136180
Because feminism is a ruse. Women and beta males are competing for the same rung in the social ladder, and it's why so much hate is directed at the beta male. They still want to be able to jump on Chad's cock and take the resources that you work to produce.
>>70135586
How do they even enforce it?
You'd have to have a police officer watching every flat/house where escorts/prostitutes operate. And then they'd have to prove the man has gone there to buy sex.
It does sound like unenforceable nonsense.
Found these links
Prostitution in Sweden hasn't decreased, it's just gone online in the form of Escorts where meets are made secretly between client and escort over email, phone, online booking.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/sex-work-swedish-example-looked-4565433
Prostitues who don't already do escorting are using AirBnb to rent apartments to set themselves up for escorting.
https://news.vice.com/article/swedish-sex-workers-are-using-airbnb-to-get-around-the-law
It seems like they've just pushed prostitution under the rug, so it's all happening in secret through online services and private meet ups at apartments or hotels.
This is pretty much how it works in the UK. You don't see hookers on the street much, but it's booming online.
>>70135586
Yea, it's nonsense, why didn't the government ban dating and/or marriage. It's the same thing just more long term.
GOOD!!
TAX THE SHIT OUT OF DEGENERACY!!!!
BRING BACK PUBLIC LASHING TOO
France's answer to prostitution is to take your money and fuck you.
Nice.
>>70128857
That's like punishing the drug addict, but not the drug dealer
>>70136508
>Problem solved
You're so naive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeXV-Yv1x-w
>>70129142
Is something lost in translation or is this as stupid as it sounds?
>>70128857
free sex it is then.
>>70136508
this.
we have this same law in canada. it sounds bad but really all it does is get rid of street prostitution while leaving escort services completely unaffected.
Street prostitution is gross and trashy and spreads disease and funds drug purchases. If they made selling sex illegal it would take out the nice clean escort services which are good for society as they let ugly autistic people get their rocks off.
>>70128857
I hope it will bring down the price at least. Where I live it is 50 euros at least.
>>70133881
Agreed, Costa ricans in general seem like asshats.
>>70128857
Chateau Heartiste.
The trend of feminism has been to criminalize male sexuality while liberating female sexuality.
This is the clearest illustration yet.
>>70137428
Watch this video and notice that one of the cops is a fucking immigrant. >>70137207
Your 'escort services' doesn't work.
>>70137207
France is not Sweden. And clearly what they did is easily avoided if you're being cautious.
>>70129321
>How does this in anyway benefit the prostitutes if it's illegal for customers to pay for their services?
It is easier to enforce. If both sides are illegal they have incentive to shut their mouth. But if it is legal for prostitute she have no repercussions reporting and witnessing for police. BTW she can't refuse to witnessing hiding behind no yourself incrimination in this case, it even can be counted as obstruction of justice kek.
Same can be done with drugs. Consumer is the most vulnerable side of illegal trade, it is stupid for LE to go for supply.
that's awright
you should penalize the people that buy an illegal product
no more demand, no more offer
simple, do it with drugs and that's it
the buyers is more guilty than the supplier
I find it retarded though, that they want to criminalize prostitution. I find ok to pay for sex, but there has to be respect and professionalism in the exchange. No slave prostitutes, no child prostitutes, no pimps, unions, healthcare and health checking for every whore.
>64 MPs let lobbyists pay for their hookers
>>70137636
>Swedish girls: the new sex tourists
http://www.thelocal.se/20040907/371
It's an old new (2004), but nobody is going to make nothing to ban swedish girls to do sex tourism.
>>70128857
France wants to uncuck itself, very good.
>>70133345
Google the name in the filename.
>>70132804
I especially love how the nipples are censored in this photo -- as though that were the most grotesque aspect on view.
>>70129864
>this is what Germany sees as "pretty"
All those jokes about ugly women must be true, then.
>>70128857
oh look, its the cigar deal revamped
>'criminalize' consumption
>still produces it to get taxes from the industries
on this matter, prostitution still propagates degeneracy
Win for German prostitution industry.
>>70137921
2 years ago, in France, prostitution was not illegal, now it is. How long until you are at the level of Sweden pursuing escort services?
>>70138805
The question is rather how they going to control it to be effective, law on itself doesn't means anything.
>>70137940
>But if it is legal for prostitute she have no repercussions reporting and witnessing for police.
Sounds bad for business.
>>70128857
Paying for sex is degenerate, Hutler says so.
>>70129221
Underrated post.
>>70135489
This has to be satire. And 56 "likes"?
>>70129142
If it were not in Sweden, I would say its a great ruse to convict someone twice of the same crime: Once for the actual crime, a second sentence for "being criminal".
>pay for a woman to spend time with you
>end up just having sex as consenting adults with exchange of currency for said sex
???
>>70139205
Feminism is not a satire, do you think sociopathy is a satire?
>>70138989
Isn't this the goal?
>>70130340
Johns and whores will just film their sexual acts together now.
>>70139757
I meant from the prostitute's point of view. She probably won't be very popular after people start talking about how she reports clients to law enforcement.
>>70128857
Then I'll fuck them for free.
>>70128857
Prostitution should be illegal for the whore and the man, in fact adultery, homosexual sex and pre marital sex should be a crime too!
>>70139638
It's just hard to believe how far people can go down that ideological rathole. To want to hurt your own children like that... fuck this world.
>buy whore
>refuse to pay
>nothing criminal
Also, this shit is just going to drive up demand for trafficked women. GG retards.
>>70139842
The next step will be to ban pornography.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2013/04/economist-explains-why-iceland-ban-pornography
>>70139916
>I meant from the prostitute's point of view.
Less bad than if she would be slapped with fines and imprisonment on top of that. Also again not 5th Amendment cause (or whatever it is called in France), police could press her into cooperation threatening with obstruction of justice as much as they want.
>>70140312
>whore learns
>whore asks for advance
>>70133667
>say will pay afterwards
you pay the pimp beforehand, the hooker gets maybe 25% of that
>>70128857
just create normal safe bordellos you fuckin anti-male cucks
>tfw beautiful brothels like in GoT and AssCreed probably only exist in Holland
New prostitution law in Germany, too.
Customers go to prison if it turns out the girl was forced to do it. As if the customer could know that.
>>70128857
> go see prostitute
> get blackmailed
> bonus std
Nobody talk about why in current year some people have to pay a prostitute to have sex, nobody ask the question if the customer might need help.
>>70138782
Sure thing, we're used to bedding Polish chicks and she looks good in comparison!
>>70137221
It's Sweden, of course it's stupid.
>>70142639
If Germany and France are worried about their prisons being too empty, you don't have to make shitty laws like this. The US has prisoners to spare, just ask us.
Prostitution should be legal and not regulated.
That makes women want to compete for man because there are legal prostitues available.
Baning prostitution and a 18 being the AOC are just feminist tools to empower women.
Fuck that.
>>70128857
cool, more sex-traffic in germany, thanks frog bros
>>70128857
This is a good decision. France does something right for once.
>>70128857
The only harm in prostitition is that its fuckn illegal.
France, for some reason, has always had a huge problem with prostitution, which is weird, because the first thing i think of when i hear the word "prostitute" is
>French women
>>70128857
criminalizing the consumer is a better way of killing the industry than going for the source.
Mkaing the sex industry illegal though is just full retard. It's the oldest profession in the world, it won't ever go away.
Men need a way to get poon if they are unable to get any normally.
The only reasonable option is to pay for it.
>>70147238
with the amount of muds in france, i think they should just legalize rape at this point
Do they not understand that making paying for sex illegal only makes it harder for prostitutes to find clients and forces them to work with pimps in shady alleys?
>>70136508
Like most laws with hefty fines, this is nothing more than an attempt to line the pocket of the police force. Basicly a stupid tax.
>>70134549
It's not.
t. ex fed in soho.
does that mean you can call the cops once you've fucked a girl and asks for money since she's coercing you into something illegal (aka paying her for the sex) ?
All they have to do is charge for the cigarette after sex.
>>70136508
>2016
>Secret transaction
>>70129142
>illegal to be a criminal
Literally what
>>70132499
Putain qu'est-ce que j'aime les beurettes
C'est les seuls qui sont toujours d'accord pour de la bonne veille sodomie
>>70130067
Parliament just voted this law today... Not that old.
>>70130340
as a man is the bread winner in most relationships
and men frequently give gifts and money to girls they are in relationships with
and that men in relationships frequently receive sex
it is now illegal to be a boyfriend, fiancée or husband in france.
meaning most men can now be arrested in france for the crime of being in a relationship
>>70132804
>>70131611
yes because almost all of europe votes left wing
al of europe is this fucking retarded
Except prostitution still exists.
It always has.
Unless you have value to offer a woman, you don't get sex in return. You need to be rich and loose with your money, or a handsome "rogue" who's a good fuck, if you're poor. You offer a product or a service of value, and get sex as the exchange.
Sex is prostitution. They are one and the same, by design.
The only difference is that now a woman can be "paid" for her services and just say no when her turn arrives. You can spend time with her, do favours, buy her drinks, and she can take advantage of all of this and still refuse to put out - and society will actually support this behaviour because her "rights" trump the more pressing fact that she is wasting your valuable time.
That's why Prostitution gets banned, just like the the age of consent is made artifically high - yes it's to protect and make it better for women, but what those women it's actually made for is not mentioned.
Imagine a man being able to bypass a "strong woman" and just get straight to what he wants? It forces regular women to actually be worth something. No shit, prostitution gets banned, not if forces you to try.
Old hags and lazy cunts want power and free shit, and they will change the entire legal system to get what they want, and men will roll over and let them do it (which is why you can't let women into politics).
>>70142989
Jaywalk in the US, get sent to german luxury prison
