Jeremy Corbyn has said that the UK should impose direct rule on tax haven British foreign territories like the British Virgin Islands if they refuse to observe UK tax law. It's after the Mossack Fonseca leaks showed the involvement of such tax havens in tax evasion.
One world gubabunt, there's no escape silly goyim. We will tax you.
Oh, the woes of having an empire.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/panama-papers-jeremy-corbyn-wants-direct-rule-british-virgin-islands-other-tax-havens-1553296
What? How is attempting to stop tax havens from operating pro jewish? Do you understand who Corbyn would actually enrage with this? Are you some kind of spastic?
>>70117105
He's right, you know.
Tax havens can and should be knocked over.
Fuck off Jez, they don't have a representative in parliament, so you don't get to dictate how they run their country. It's called autonomous for a fucking reason you bell end.
Those territories belong to the Crown.
Channel Islands should be part of France they are too anglicised now
Corbyn is talking bollocks mate. He's never going to win, just deal with it.
>>70117105
Who cares, Britain is irrelevant.
>>70118185
They belong to the crown, not to parliament. I reiterate >>70118149
>>70118149
>I enjoy having millions of pounds sucked out of the British economy every year and hidden in secret vaults
I guess we know who the true cucks are
Based Corbyn.
Get it fucking done.
Honestly, it's time for states to start standing up for themselves. Every state in the world that allows this to happen needs to be taken over and controlled by the world powers. I don't care where they are in the world - Put a stop to this bulllshit immediately and save the Wesphalian system before it's too late.
>>70118119
>>70118442
>>70118591
Clearly you don't know who this cucked mess is. Significant anti-britain hating hyprocrite. In the Islamist's pocket, seems to favour terrorists more then the armed forces.
All round, average London centric middle class cuck.
>>70118432
Oh how I've missed ED.
Jezza is spot on on this. If he'd just drop his trident pish I could consider voting Labour.
>>70118296
Correct.
Corbyn is literally a peasant. He's made his party unelectable. Beardy fucking nigger.
>What power do we have to shut down Monacao?
>None
But really, couldn't a country just outlaw any transaction from a tax haven to any bank of the country?
>>70118692
Don't care about your internal politics. If Corbyn is man enough to put a stop to this bullshit, then he's based in my mind. Any state that willfully allows the world's rich to evade taxes by hiding their money away forfeits their right to exist as a state - Period.
It's time to end the bullshit. Take over every one of these tax havens by force if necessary.
>>70118874
This. There's £20 Trillion apparently in the Virgin Islands alone.
> Take over every one of these tax havens by force if necessary.
Agreed lad. BTW what the hell is the script with Nevada in all this?
>mfw Corbyn and puts the tax dodgers in gulags
Global financial tax when?
Socialist Republic of Britain when?
>>70118721
I'm so sick of the anti-trident, anti-nuclear rhetoric going on especially when the world is going up shit creek without a paddle
>>70118442
As long as you overtax people, those who can will always try to find ways to dodge the taxman. The states' crusade against cash money is one of the ways they can better control the general population because they're more worried about their own coffers than about your independence.
In the end the question is if the state would prefer 10% of a melon or 50% of a grape.
>>70118874
>Corbyn
>Based
>On /pol/
Blimey
>>70118874
> If Corbyn is man enough to put a stop to this bullshit,
And thats where it ends. He obviously wouldn't use armed forces.
After all, this guys a pacifist. I find it rather funny of him going on about "Needing a dialogue with ISIS" but when it comes to a tax haven we should go full blown armed takeover.
Lmao, fucking lefties are scum.
>>70119036
The only good red is a dead red.
>>70117898
Teaming up with Soros to deny sovereignty to nations and centralise global financial law.
>not pro jewish
>>70118721
And if he dropped his love of Immigration maybe?
And maybe his love of Pakis? And Islamists? And refugees?
>>70118860
Economic sanctions are extremely serious business, reserved for the likes of Iran.
>tfw rightwingers are taxcucks
>tfw leftwingers are rapefugee cucks
Is there a way out of this cucking ?
>>70119036
>New Labourites hanging from the lamposts
UKSSR is happening.
>>70119131
Does the UK government not have to ask the USA permission to use Trident? Honestly I see no practical situation where they'd actually be used, the government is reluctant to deploy troops let alone nuclear missiles.
>>70117105
>Corbyn says things that are next to impossible to implement
He's a fucking moron
>>70119036
>mfw UK and USA become socialist and unite to turn the whole world socialist
>>70119279
bait or retard
it's fucking british money being stolen by the big jews.
>>70117105
same old communist global power expansion i see
>>70117105
>Mmmmkay.
>You remember that autonomous rule?
>HAHA FUCK THAT SHIT GIB US UR MONEY
>>70119417
>Politician does things politicians do
>>70119400
>Does the UK government not have to ask the USA permission to use Trident?
No. This is a myth. Britain was still a relevant power when Trident was established.
Here's a fuckin novel idea, get companies operating in your country to declare their profits to revenue and customs. It doesn't matter where the money is then, they owe it you.
>>70119444
You're the retard honey, big Jews care about power not money.
>>70119400
Unilateral disarmament is retarded and the SNP has stopped any new nuclear power plants from opening in Scotland
>>70119575
>Britain was still a relevant power when Trident was established.
You stopped being relevant in 1918.
>>70119400
>Does the UK government not have to ask the USA permission to use Trident?
No, our Nuclear weapons are totally Independent of the USA, they just supplied us the missiles.
But you know, we could go down the route of sending Nuclear subs out without actual nuclear war heads. Another class act idea from the red scum himself.
>http://news.sky.com/story/1624390/corbyn-trident-subs-dont-need-warheads
Here we go. Can't wait for even more socialist shilling for the next months.
>>70119328
>And maybe his love of Pakis? And Islamists? And refugees?
any of the three terms there would have made the same point. K so I disagree with this too. He is right on Tax Havens though, as he is right on the need to nationalise some strategic industries.
>>70119447
Fine then, here's an alternative. Make it a crime for anybody with any accounts in these tax havens to do business in the UK, EU, US and anywhere else that is game for it. This way we son;t have to force the poor corporate entities stealing billions of taxpayer dollars a year to do anything.
>>70119645
Almost 50 years after France ceased to be relevant. My kraut friends told me Versailles is pretty nice from the inside.
What about the channel islands? The governments of Jersey and Gurnsey send out packets soliciting foreign investors to relocate there to take advantage of tax rates. Is this a realistic proposal?
>>70119645
And you stopped being relevant in 1815.
>traditionally a land power
>gets shrekt on land consistently
>>70117105
Corbyn confirmed for anti-democratic.
On the plus side, does this mean we can re-take Australia and Canada now?
>>70119732
>My kraut friends told me Versailles is pretty nice from the inside.
Too poor to visit?
Clean my vault, poorfag.
>>70119781
>not fighting fair
kek
>>70118721
>mfw no more cracking Ed Milliband David Cameron banter at PMQ's because Jez is a wet blanket.
>>70119613
This is how it is meant to work. The tax experts at Pricewaterhouse Cooper's and the like helped write our tax laws though. They know them better than HMRC and have more resources than HMRC for the game of cat and mouse.
>>70119723
>any of the three terms there would have made the same point. K so I disagree with this too.
He's a big fan of terrorists as well, as long as they're killing Brits that is. Another one for you.
And its been proven that Nationalising certain industries wouldn't do much to boost their efficiency anyway. So its a moot point, and utterly pointless.
>>70119754
I'd image he was referring to all of them.
>>70119177
The mountain jew knows it.
Last time labour increased income tax here they actually got less money. They were told this before-hand by the tax authorities but proceeded anyway for political lolz.
The UK has some of the highest taxes in our group of countries, especially when you take into account stealth taxes and the levels at which different taxes kick-in.
The entire rest-of-world is a tax haven when you have taxes that high.
>>70119861
>Corbyn confirmed for anti-democratic
how is this anti-democratic, really? and if it so, so what?
We should have direct rule over our territories. Not having it makes us even more of a cuck nation.
>>70119575
>>70119658
Cool, thanks. Is Britain still a relevant power now without Trident?
>>70119619
Obviously. In a devolved government you are accountable to no one because you blame Westminster and bang the nationalist drum. You're effectively like an independent MP. Nuclear energy has been tainted for ages, it is no surprise they oppose it.
>>70117105
What a good idea, the last time we tried to impose tax laws on an overseas territory with no representation, it went really well.
>>70119781
They got wrecked worse in 1871. From that day they were condemned to be forever cucked by Germany
>>70119886
Unlike my friend, I wasn't crowned emperor of Germany inside Versailles. Not even Britain was so eager to cuck you guys, and they had plenty of opportunities.
>>70119894
Have you got details of their involvement?
>>70119897
Not just about boosting their efficiency. Did you know that we have given the French a blank cheque to build our new nuclear power? They will own them once completed and have been promised a rate of at least twice what we pay today. So not only will the French own our nuclear infrustructure, we pay them to use it and pay them at least three times what they charge their own people. And don't even get me started on the fact that the Chinese have a share in the project too.
One final point, EDF are part nationalised. So in essence the French state are going to own our power generation for the next 50 years. So it is essentially nationally owned anyway, just not by us.
The other point is if we let our strategic industries collapse, god help us should we need to mobilize for war any time soon.
>>70120092
Isn't it selective imperialism, though? I'm pretty sure he wouldn't say the same if Australia or Canada would pull off the same shenanigans. Flexing your muscles in front of a micro island nation is pretty pathetic even for Corbyn's standards.
>>70120068
If the government made an intelligent, large scale concerted effort to properly tax people and corporations, it could be done.
But nothing decisive and sucessful ever comes from Westminster.
>>70120092
>I have no idea what the British empire is or how it operates
>>70120092
It is un-democratic, they have no representation in parliament.
>>70120094
The sooner we close the Scottish trident bases and move the deterrent to England the better. How we can seriously have a deterrent which may not even have a base to operate from if there is another referendum on jock indy I do not know.
In the short term we should sign a 10 year contract with the US to have the Trident serviced there, same tech.
In the medium term it should move down south to Plymouth or wherever. Regardless of whether or not Scotland stays in the union for now. Its too important to play about with.
Short term the Yanks would do us a deal, and medium term it would boost employment down south. The out of work jocks are SNPs problem not England.
>>70120274
Here they are advising people on how to avoid tax
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2941989/Accounting-giant-helping-firms-avoid-tax-industrial-scale-Leaked-letters-expose-schemes-companies-divert-profits-Luxembourg.html
and here's an article about them helping design the laws
> Labour received £600,000 of advice from PwC to help form tax policy
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/12/pricewaterhousecoopers-tax-structures-politics-influence
They know the caveats inside out and how to 'legally' exploit them.
>>70117105
It's all love and hugs until there are a few shekels invlolved, then out comes the boot.
>>70117105
Don't forget who fucked you over bongs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COt65HZCJaA
>>70120068
>>70120345
The state's the worst manager to ever exist. It has little pressure on it, since the bureaucrats that work inside the system are unelected, therefore they have cozy jobs unless they do some pretty blatant illegal stuff. But if they mismanage the money at most they'll get transferred somewhere else and still work in the public sector.
>>70120469
thank you
>>70117105
irrelevant, UK does not own all tax havens, commie popultist tries to gather cheap points with the plebs
You goys do realize succesful white people use little to none of the tax-funded things the government does right
Oh wait you're all neckbeards on neetbux, nevermind keep complaining
>>70120094
>Is Britain still a relevant power now without Trident?
Yep, Trident makes us a pretty significant soft power at the least, plus being in the top five of powerful militaries in the world. Trident is Important IMO, especially in a increasingly unstable world.
>>70120305
But I think thats mainly down to Tory stupidity in running our infrastructure. They're insane, and If they nationalised it, I can't see it doing any better. Hoping Labour would come in and take control of nationalising is a long shot, considering Corbyn has little to no chance of getting a majority or forming a government.
But then that makes way for the argument of why we should keep dead industries going if they're going to be a nuisance to the tax payer? We still have a lot of resources that are left dormant and if we do go to war they can be re-opened and exploited again.
>>70120345
Corporation tax is going away, at least to all intents and purposes. It started the moment digital content became a thing, music, movies, software, services, anything. Microsoft, Google, HP even, pay as little or as much tax as they feel like and there is little the government can do to change that. I know. I personally worked at a company that did over £350M of software license sales per year and never paid a penny in UK tax. Y'know, software, at 99.9% gross margin.
Now the corner shop is not in the same situation, but increasingly many sectors are.
Corporation tax is going away and the government needs to get used to that.
>>70120448
Do you think the south of England wants nuclear missiles? There's a stigma around nuclear energy and no political party will pledge to move the missiles. The south of England needs tourism and the missiles would be a deterrent to this. Also the south of England would be too close to mainland Europe and easier to hit in a first strike.
>>70120697
Regardless of how unstable the world is I do not think that having Trident is useful but does help as a symbolic show of power. It gives the PM a seat at the big table at the NATO meetings.
>>70120535
Ive done business with central government and with companies large and small.
Some of my commercial clients probably get £2 of value out of each £1 they spend. After 20 years of work I would say Government manages to get 10-20p of value for every £1 they spend on a project or initiative, this is before they deduct their salaries from any benefit.
IT disasters are an interest of mine. Our government spent £130M on an Email system and Wiki for less than 3000 people and after 3 years declared it was technically impossible to make it work so crashed the entire project. 130M, on Email and a wiki, then aborted. That is the kind of incompetence you are dealing with.
>>70121017
>Do you think the south of England wants nuclear missiles?
Give it to Northern Ireland then.
Cheap workforce.
Reaffirms commitment to NI.
>>70121017
>Regardless of how unstable the world is I do not think that having Trident is useful but does help as a symbolic show of power.
But I certainly think its helpful knowing that it secures us from some rogue country attempting Nuclear blackmail on us. Plus, we've seen what happens when you get rid of nukes and then rely on NATO. See Ukraine for your answer.
I see Trident as an Insurance policy. Yep, of course today we don't need it, but I like knowing that if five years down the line or ten years down the line we need it. It will be there.
Can one of you laissez-fairefags tell me if you like what the Tories are doing?
>muh free markets
>muh small government
>muh pro-jewish coroporation policies
>>70120652
Thing is, this 'gommie populism' appeals to 90% of the global population. So really this is just called democracy.
>But then that makes way for the argument of why we should keep dead industries going if they're going to be a nuisance to the tax payer? We still have a lot of resources that are left dormant and if we do go to war they can be re-opened and exploited again.
Mothballing is an option but then you'll likely have a skills shortage should it need to fire up again. I wouldn't nationalise everything just for the sake of it. Just a few key sectors.
>Now the corner shop is not in the same situation, but increasingly many sectors are.
Just to be clear by this you mean only plebs not rich enough to avoid tax should pay it? Nice.
tfw on holiday and got a retarded flag
>>70119216
This
>>70118874
You're fucking retarded dude, we shut down the British Virgin Islands they move to another place which is out of UK jurisdiction with equally stupidly low tax rates.
What's your fucking plan man? Run around the world forcing every country to raise their taxes and do things how you want? Are you aware how retarded that would be?
You will never stop this. Stop pretending you can, these companies literally employ teams of people whose entire job is to make them pay as little tax as humanely possible.
At least with them being a British Territory it encourages people to have businesses in the UK.
>>70121273
Dis a good question. The tories have taken thatcherism way further than she ever dreamt to. So all you free-marketeers surely approve?
>>70117105
Jeremy corbyn want to reinstate the empire, I don't believe it.
>>70118874
You know Obongo passed some law allowing tax havens inside the USA back in 2013?
Something about Reno Nevada.
>>70121318
>What's your fucking plan man?
Find out which countries host these tax havens, and inform them that they have 48 hours to cease operations, tax all the funds they're holding for the rich and send the money to the country to which it belongs, or we're sending in the military to force them to do so. Europe and the U.S. absolutely can get it done.
>>70121318
>these companies literally employ teams of people whose entire job is to make them pay as little tax as humanely possible
so raid their offices and shoot them if the retaliate.
fuck, I love me some decisive action. We need a moral society, and thus need to stamp out sinners. no more apathy. take violent action against this sort of stuff.
if jewish money leave? excellent. we'll rebuild as a self sufficient nation. stop playing on globalist terms.
I never got how people managed to get those super secure accounts in switzerland, bahamas and other tax havens.
Isn't it a super sikrit club, kinda like freemasons?
>>70121633
m8 your useless government cant even force Cisco & friends to re-patriate the tens of billions they are holding in European accounts.
http://www.theguardian.com/money/us-money-blog/2015/jun/13/repatriate-profits-encourage-corporate-tax-avoiders
>>70121230
The last thing we need is the nuclear missiles for the whole UK no matter what the DUP say. IT would never be agreed. Reaffirming a commitment could be a lot more that Trident.
>Reaffirms commitment to NI
Try actually remembering we are part of the Union or raising the living standards. Or let us reunity with the Republic.
>>70121260
Weren't Ukraine's nukes given back because Russia to on all of the USSR's responsibility? It's an expensive insurance policy that relies on too much 'what if' for me to really support it desu
>>70121772
Nigger that article is about getting the money back in a way that rewards bad behavior. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about taking that money back by force and shutting down the tax havens. Hell, maintain a permanent occupation of their territory if we must. These are not nations with a strong military force. They are puny little shitstains who have been allowed to continue stealing our money out of the kindness of our hearts.
It's time for that kindness to end.
>>70121676
>people don't want to pay your stupid expensive tax if they can avoid it so we'll shoot them
>we don't need capitalism or global companies to live like a first world nation, look at how great cuba is!
>ignoring that these companies contribute jobs, money and services to the economy in other ways than just tax money
Wow dude that isn't scary or authoritarian, how's the socialist paradise you're trying to create going?
>>70121841
>Try actually remembering we are part of the Union or raising the living standards. Or let us reunity with the Republic.
Personally I'd have takes a fraction of the bail-out money and used it to create a new city in NI and a commitment, special enterprise zone etc, blagged some of those lovely EU gibs me dat that the bog-irish normally get.
>>70121841
>Weren't Ukraine's nukes given back because Russia to on all of the USSR's responsibility?
I'm pretty sure that Ukraine had a treaty with NATO that if they got rid of their nukes they would be under their protection.
Few years later and now Ukraine has Russia on their doorstep ramping up military support for rebels. And NATO is nowhere to be seen...
>It's an expensive insurance policy that relies on too much 'what if' for me to really support it desu
Well that's what most Insurance policies come down to at the end of the day 'what if' and keep in mind. If that 'what if' is a pretty fucking big 'what if' so I think its appropriate we keep it until a global disarmament is discussed.
But there's more of a chance of Corbyn becoming PM then there is that happening, so i doubt it. Trident should be kept for the foreseeable future, even if it makes pacifists triggered, but the world isn't all sunshine and rainbows.
>>70122046
I dont know if anyone has told you, but money is liquid. They dont keep piles of gold bars in these tax havens. Press one button, 30ms later the money is gone.
>>70122248
>I'm pretty sure that Ukraine had a treaty with NATO that if they got rid of their nukes they would be under their protection.
You are correct.
Be interesting to see if anyone falls for the NATO meme in future after this episode...
>>70121633
What happens when the tax haven ends up being a country like Saudi Arabia or Dubai?
Is your plan to just invade that place and shoot it up too?
>>70117105
If they didn't effectively give it away to EU commissars like the corrupt claud junk-man this would be a good thing.
>>70122304
Irrelevant. They will hand over the money when we force them to at gunpoint. These tax havens are stealing American and European money. They have forfeit their right to exist as independent states so long as that continues.
>>70122371
Its effectively a null argument now. Can't trust NATO for shit. And if Donald Trump becomes president, he ain't gonna give a single fuck about NATO if the European countries don't start paying their way.
>>70122459
If they are stealing American and European money by acting as tax havens, and will not stop, then yes we must force them to stop. That is a direct attack on American and European interests. It is an act of war.
>>70122118
>>we don't need capitalism or global companies to live like a first world nation, look at how great cuba is!
We can have them, but they play by the rules.
>Wow dude that isn't scary or authoritarian, how's the socialist paradise you're trying to create going?
A little but of socialsim ties the nation together. I don't want to live in a mercenary world.
The West has forgot how to hate corruption. I want communities to rise up and throw housebricks at banks. I want communities to reject sin and evil.
Sorry secular frenchie, but this is how you defend against abject moral and monetary poverty.
>>70122248
>>70122371
>>70122371
Those nukes belong to the Russians in the first place. The deal was that they help Russian and American authorities to take those nukes out and in turn BOTH countries guarantee Ukraine's sovereignty.
As far as Nato protection, that works for member nations, something that Ukraine isn't but UK is. Nato isn't obligated to protect a non-member state. Imho the Americans dropped the ball big time both in Ukraine and in Georgia by trying to lure them in and then to let them out to dry at the first sign of Russian opposition.
Even though I dont agree with him at least he offers an actual opposition
better than having ed milibands tory-lite
>>70122046
>our money
How is that money yours anon? gibs?
>>70122221
Just fix Derry of Belfast. The last time we got a new city it was named after fucking Lord Craigavon. The EU money is what keeps NI trucking, we need it.
>>70122248
I agree that Trident will be renewed regardless of any scenario. It's just such a massive amount of money to spend on the off-chance World War Three happens.
>>70121633
Jesus Christ. What is wrong with you
>>70122598
>A little but of socialsim ties the nation together
No it doesn't, socialism pits the people against eachother by creating false conflicts. That's why you've got people that now think the rich are out to get them [when in fact they just want to be left alone], that whites want to oppress blacks [when they are either indifferent or want to stay away from them] and so on.
Socialism pits citizen against citizen, otherwise it has no basis to exist. It needs "oppressed" people to protect, so it creates imaginary oppression if it has to.
>>70117105
>UK should impose direct rule
which in turn will be ruled by the EU
And dictated to via Tel Aviv
VOTE OUT
>>70117105
Britain created tax havens to give the islands an economy after independence
Deprive the islanders a huge slice of their GDP
Rich people hide their money elsewhere
Profit?
>/pol/ is now socialist
Not all big businesses are jewish you fucking retards
>>70122972
>What is wrong with you
What is wrong with you? You're the one who thinks it is acceptable to allow foreign countries to cuck the U.S. and Europe by stealing our tax revenue. This only happens because we allow it to happen. We've been too nice for too long, and that is why we're in the shithole that we're in. it's time for no more mr. nice guy.
>>70123180
I'd move my money as soon as i heard this guy taking about it
>>70123286
>our money
No it's not yours it's someone else's money.
>>70122552
So if European countries start to police other sovereign country's finances, what will stop them from abusing this? There were bigger lies that started wars than false financial claims.
>>70123385
It is tax revenue that belongs to the American and European people that is being stolen through these tax havens.
>>70123416
Don't let Americans and Europeans skip out on taxes by holding their money for them and there won't be any problems. These tax havens only exist because we've allowed them to exist.
>>70123385
>the rich has money
>it's my money!
Who said that socialism isn't a mental illness?
>>70117105
repeat after me:
FUCK OFF JEZ
leave us alone
>>70118442
>>70118591
>>70119444
>oy vey those greedy billionaires are trying to avoid taxation!
>oy gevalt we need to SHUT IT DOWN to make sure we get our cut!
ITT: edgy faggots who want money from other people. GIBS
This is crab mentality, instead of trying to evade taxes, you are mad that other people can do it legally and you are getting cucked by your government.
What you should really care is if the money was earned honestly and if it's being used in fraud.
Tthis is specially important for the politicians involved, while in office every politician should report all their incomes at least monthly.
>>70123614
>Don't let Americans and Europeans skip out on taxes by holding their money for them and there won't be any problems. These tax havens only exist because we've allowed them to exist.
We allowed them to exist by bloating our bureaucracy and overtaxing everyone. It's a neverending cycle, you raise taxes so more people will try to dodge them, then you increase the budget of the tax collectors in order to pursue the tax dodgers so you raise the taxes yet again, forcing more people to dodge taxes and so on.
And you still did not answer the question, you are arguing for unrestricted imperialism.
>>70123617
fUCK OFF switzerland, you're one of the worst offenders. You especially have forfeit your right to exist as an independent state. You should be occupied and conquered by the European powers.
>>70122046
So you'd invade the Netherlands and Switzerland?
Nigger, we have nukes.
>>70123165
#shotsfired
>>70117105
Yes, good goy, let corporations and world leaders stash their to-be-taxed money elsewhere so that you have to pay more in taxes.
>>70123747
>instead of trying to evade taxes, you are mad that other people can do it
I honestly don't know how you can argue against this thought process.
Now we know why South American was and always will be a wretched corrupt mercenary hellhole with no honour, morality or national identity,
People take the libertarian approach to the extreme.
>>70123614
Also
>It is tax revenue that belongs to the American and European people that is being stolen through these tax havens.
No, it belongs to the American and European STATES. The STATES' money is not yours, mine or anybody else's. It belongs to the bureaucrats who can do whatever they want with it and have little responsibility compared to the power they have.
>>70123902
Bitch, just try and see what happens. You'll pit the whole continent against you the moment you step into the Swiss borders [and that's assuming you'll be allowed to transit troops or fly your planes towards us] since you'll violate over 500 years of military neutrality. I like classic British imperialism, but your kind is twisted socialist retardation that allows for your kind of double think
>>70123614
No it is money that people made. Not the government's and not yours.
>>70123617
Does your money say "Heinrich Schwartz" on it or "Swiss National Bank?"
>>70123902
>You should be occupied and conquered by the European powers.
Hey yankee.... Ireland, Belgium and the Netherlands are coporate tax havens too.
You'd just have a continental war on your hands, with these retarded policies of yours.
>>70123614
>money that belongs to the american and european people
How much of that money is yours anon? you should be fighting to not pay thoses taxes in the first place.
Taxes havens exist because tax hells exist, with low taxes there's no need to keep your money overseas since the cost of it (transactions, hiring people lke accountants, lawyers) simply doesn't reflect huge gains anymore.
>>70117105
Friendly reminder, Corbyn only gets bad press because he's an 'anti semite'. He does not bend t the jews.
We all know the jews own the media.
>>70124261
That is why you laugh at socialists and never take them seriously
>>70124192
>south america
>in any way libertarian
You nigger, S. America has, with the exception of Chile, been communist for the last 70 years. Venezuela still is. Brazil still has socialists in power.
You dont know shit.
>>70119417
>not being utopian
>>70124301
He also doesn't bend to common sense.
We all know common sense owns the sensible voters' minds.
>>70124301
He's pro EU superstate, a card carrying globalist.
Fuck him. A traitor for deserting the working class British.
>>70124261
>You'd just have a continental war on your hands
It would be over in a week.
>>70124234
>You'll pit the whole continent against you
I don't think so, friendo. I'm talking about bringing all the major powers of western europe together along with America and pushing your shit in. The only one who would lose is you.
>500 years of military neutrality
You can call yourselves neutral all you want, but as long as you engage in acts of war against the American and European people, it is not to be taken seriously.
>>70124235
>>70124263
Fuck off lolbertarians.
>>70124420
>ruled by socialists for the last 70 years
You mean rich landowners and the military? Because that's the actual history of Latin America up until the USSR fell. Every time during the 20th century a country elected a socialist to exercise self-determination the United States stepped in and overthrew them and put the old order back in place.
>>70124617
Why should i our anyone else take you seriously
>>70124617
>It would be over in a week.
Would it? We have nukes. As well as the 4th largest airforce in NATO.
France would start by eating itself. Taxation of the rich has already caused huge division there: all the rich emigrated after new tax laws were instituted, and people are mad at the socialists.
You'd have Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Ireland, Denmark and Switzerland against you. We all either hide money in tax havens, or are tax havens.
The only other power with any kind of military is Poland.
>>70124192
Good boy, pay your taxes, all that money will be used only in your well being, you know how every penny it's being used, obey the law no matter what.
Man, Southamerica is a hellhole but if you think honour is obedience to your rulers, and that to have some sense of national identity (say etno-cultural ties with other people) you need to bow your head to the mighty State, then I'm not surprised you're getting cucked down there.
>>70123628
>Oy vey, those gentiles think they should use our hard earned shekels through legal loopholes (good thing we have 15 economists and 27 lawyers on our immediate family to help us) to make their silly idea of a "country" finally be able to afford their development programs and stop taking loans from our banks!
>Quick! Someone else transfer my funds to my 17th Swiss bank account! My daughter's son was just born and I want first (and only) on that sweet baby penis! I mean, I will circumsize him personally!
This can be twisted in many ways.
>>70124617
>I don't think so, friendo. I'm talking about bringing all the major powers of western europe together along with America and pushing your shit in. The only one who would lose is you.
You fucking clown, everybody knows about tax havens for decades and yet nobody did anything against them, do you wonder why? And then you tell yourself that you'll convince a whole friggin' continent to go along with your stupidity. Protip: governments use tax havens for their secret business. I hope you're well aware that US and USSR were pretty big commercial partners despite the Cold War, and those affairs were not done out in the open.
>You can call yourselves neutral all you want, but as long as you engage in acts of war against the American and European people, it is not to be taken seriously.
You'll end up worse than in Vietnam, friendo.
>>70124530
He actually isn't he's somewhat euroskeptic though I believe he'd on balance probably rather stay in that was forced upon him by his party.
If you want to know why he's retarded beyond belief just look at him sucking up to all the Muslims and wanting to give the Fawklands to the Argentinians.
>>70117105
>tfw considered tax haven.
Fuck off you dirty commie I swear on me mum if he gets in we secede.
Fuck Corbyn but he has a point. I don't think he's talking le world order you spastic , he just feels that as we basically own them we should enforce our own rules.
I'm not sure how it works as of now but if it would force them to contribute or contribute more to us then fuck it lets do it
MAKE THE EMPIRE RISE AGAIN
>>70125098
you are well sketchier than us tbf
The empire strickes back bitches
The US doesn't have this problem, does it?
>>70119444
They're just changing who's stealing it, moron
>>70117898
>>70117105
this is some next level fuckery, trying to protect havens such as BVI in the name of "national sovereignty" while at the same time, destroying the sovereignty of actual nations through international treaties, avoiding taxation, multiculturalism and mass immigration
>>70125098
Jez will personally invade you pham
>>70125144
>money moves to Netherlands and Ireland
Now what? You gonna annex us too?
>>70124981
I see absolutely nothing wrong with what you just posted. Especially the part about using legal means to do all of that and the other part where they don't owe the country shit.
>>70125447
Could you stop us if we tried?
>>70124843
More than socialist I'd say statists, Apart from Argentina`s early XX century, southamerica NEVER have tried with classical liberalism at least.
So basically, what we've always had is corrupt politicians, business owners connected to government, limited civil liberties and even more limited economic freedom. Governments that controls what you do, how much do you make and take as much of it as they want.
>>70125518
Could we stop the UK? Yeah, easily. We have 3x the airforce you do. And we could absolutely count on Belgian and German support.
And if shit were to get too desperate, We'd just resort to nuking you.
>>70125794
The netherlands even has nukes? even if so we have a lot more
>/pol/ defending rich tax-dodgers
why do you bother? do you all suffer the fantasy that one day you'll be rich enough to need a caymans account?
>>70125937
Good luck nuking a small country like the Netherlands and not thoroughly pissing off both France and Germany, among others.
>>70125990
More like we're against big states and tax hells than anything else.
>>70125990
>I'm poor and angry and no one else should have money if i can't have any
>>70125990
wouldn't it be hypocritical to criticise others for something you'd do if you had the choice or is your socialist instinct getting the better of you?
>>70125937
So now we're both Wastelands. Great going, just for some taxes.
And yeah, we have about 300 nuclear missiles.
Just accept there is no way to avoid tax evasion. Not unless you become a tottalitarian communist hell hole. Just lower yiour fucking taxes and expenditure so people dont feel so heavily burdened they need to flee.
>>70125990
Low taxes, small state, no tyranny, free speech.
Libertarian principles, mate.
>>70126135
Not even the same person, just commenting that nuking the UK would be suicide
>>70125990
taxation isnt ethical itself and if you can dodge it then there's no moral reason why you shouldnt. Itll just be spent on niggers and pakis in the UK its better here.
>>70125794
>Yeah, easily
top kek, that's honestly the funniest thing i've read on here today
our defence budget is like 15 times bigger than yours toothpastefag, i think the SAS alone could wipe out your entire shitty nation. shit, even a 1m sea level rise would
>>70125794
>And if shit were to get too desperate, We'd just resort to nuking you.
>The U.S. insists that its forces control the weapons and that no transfer of the nuclear bombs or control over them is intended "unless and until a decision were made to go to war, at which the [NPT] treaty would no longer be controlling", so there is no breach of the NPT.
>>70126230
You invaded us over some shekels, you goddamned Jew.
>>70126259
This. Taxation is theft. Christ ordered men to be charitable, but it is their choice whether to be moral and charitable, or greedy and immoral.
>>70126471
Hey i'm the first guy to slap your shit. Not saying we should invade you , just saying we could.
Easily.
>>70126471
He also said to give to Caesar what belongs to him. That story is basically the basis for state separation from the church.
>>70126471
Post the source on the dutch having 300 nuclear missiles though
>>70126259
>Every tax, however, is, to the person who pays it, a badge, not of slavery, but of liberty.
Taxes are the price you have to pay for living in a civilized society.
"Taxation is theft" fuck off with you Chicago school nonsense
>>70126617
Nah, you couldnt. You only have about twice the infantry and less airforce.
Plus, you know... You'd be the agressor. Half of Europe would back us.
Vote Jez for second British empire.
>>70126766
They dont.
The Burgers have some bombs and nuclear depth charges in a shed there, which could be fitted to their F16s in the event of war. If the burgers wanted.
>>70126766
http://www.nu.nl/binnenland/2390003/wikileaks-bevestigt-kernwapens-in-nederland.html
>>70126958
There isnt a single American soldier stationed in the Netherlands, cuckfag. And we only have missiles stored here.
>faggots posting in this thread
shocking state of affairs. pic related needs to leave and never come back
>>70117105
>defending international tax havens
who could be behind this post?
>>70127009
>Dutch cabinet has the presence of US nuclear weapons never confirmed in the Netherlands.
>US nuclear weapons
>>70120107
Under rated.
I'm tired of government protection rackets.
>>70126807
>taxation is theft
>Chicago school
>not anarchocapitalism
Now I know you are talking out of your ass.
Civilized society because of most of the western values, not because of give me your money or I'll kidnap you and put you in a jail nonsense.
I'm pretty sure you know how every penny they take from you is being used and that you have a voice on how that money is spent.
>>70127061
The Lance, missiles were stored at the special ammunition stores at 't Harde and Havelterberg. These weapons are no longer operational.
What are you going to attack with? Pancakes?
>>70124617
Do you think the people who run your military and government are going to wage a war for you against the countries they use as their private bank accounts? I can just see all the rich moneyed elites giving to orders to raid Switzerland and hand over their cash to you.
You're 12 aren't you?
>Destroy island economies
>Money just moves to Monaco instead
Wew lad
ITT: brits proving once again how they may very well be the most liberal country in the world.
in several ways you fuckers are even worse them swedes, holy hell.
>>70129226
>liberal
fuck off yank, high taxes are the opposite of liberal
