Just a quick question for Americans.
Hypothetically, if you were to go into a convenience store and call the guy behind the till a "sandnigger", what would happen to you? Could you be punished by the law?
Of course you can't be punished by law that's fucking stupid
>>70116596
No, America unlike us has such a thing as free speech.
Only if the act caused public disorder somehow, for instance if he had 5 or 6 sand people in the store who began to riot.
>>70116723
I don't think that necessarily means you can say whatever you want to whoever you want.
>>70116596
You'd probably get kicked out and never allowed to return. Unless you physically attack him as well, then it would be considered a hate crime.
>>70116723
You can, but it'll probably ruin your life because someone will obviously record the events after you called him a sandnigger.
>>70116877
You actually can. You just can't say it infront of children or whatever.
Most people don't say it because it's a one way ticket to a lofe of scorn and unemployment.
>>70116899
so much for freedom of speech eh?
>>70116877
>freedom of speech isn't freedom of speech
Nigga.....
>>70116877
Lol, except it does, though. People can get pissy and try to ruin your life over it, but the state won't do shit. U jelly, sandnigger?
>>70116877
Yes, yes it does. God bless this country and my free hate speech.
Its not against the law to call someone a sand nigger, nigger, kike, or anything else.
The majority of them wont even kick you out
>>70116596
Lol nothing, it obviously that your govt is anti native, this is the beginning for you, just look at Germany and their police arresting people for comment in the internet
>>70117073
>>70117081
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3385703/Black-judge-gives-white-skinhead-held-drugs-charges-60-days-calling-N-word-Jefferson-courtroom.html
Oh, ok then.
>>70116596
No but that would be a dick move hassling some guy stuck at a shit job
>>70116877
It may seem like an alien concept to us poor oppressed serfs but there's a good reason people like the WBC can say whatever they like with impunity.
Someone might try and get back at you, but not the state.
>>70116596
No he would probably just get mad
>>70117037
its his property, if he doesn't want to be called a nigger on his property then he shouldn't.
The only issue I have is with the hate crimethink. Who cares if you called a nigger a nigger when you punched him.
>>70116596
Nope, not really. He could argue assault, maybe, but most states won't start shit. You have the right to be racist here, or the KKK wouldn't exist.
>>70117248
He was jailed over saying it in the court room (Contempt of Court), not over saying it in public.
>>70117248
That's in a courtroom, not a business place ya moron
Getting a heavy sentence because you insulted a judge while he's deciding your punishment and being prosecuted for using a racial slur in public are two very different things
http://poststar.com/news/local/police-man-faces-hate-crime-charges-in-burglary-assault/article_71f6e28c-b301-11e0-afd2-001cc4c002e0.html
>>70116596
No you wouldn't. First Amendment and all that none sense
>>70117248
The nigga was in contempt of court. He could have said "you're a dummy head, judge!" and still be held in contempt. You don't have freedom of speech when standing in front of a judge in a courtroom. There is a certain etiquette there.
>>70116877
Are you fucking stupid? Only thing you can't say is "open the register and get on the fucking floor I have a gun/bomb/needle of HIV blood".
You can insult him in any way.
>>70116596
lol no... he can tell you to leave and not come back, that's it.
>>70116877
As usual, Brits cant even fathom the bants.>>70116899
>>70116596
The question we should all be asking ourselves is what is the racket going on that makes these sandniggers the only people that own convenience stores?
WTF is going on?
>>70116596
It's very rare for these guys to be working alone. They usually run the store with their 5 brothers and 3 son in laws. They always pack heat, so i would never call them a sand nigger to their face.
>>70116877
I'm sorry you're not free.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21020737
Friendly reminder they dropped "insult" from the public order act which has been in effect since 1986.
>>70117884
http://www.nj.com/ocean/index.ssf/2013/06/woman_on_nj_transit_bus_arrest_for_using_racial_slurs_against_passenger_during_argument.html
>>70116596
someone would probably call you a dick and some girl in the store would write a facebook post about it where she probably will lie and say that she stood up for him when really she just bought flavored water and did nothing.
If it's just you and him there, all that will really happen is he tells you to get the fuck out. If he is not alone then the same thing still might happen, but you run the risk of getting your ass beat.
Unless you threatened him, he will usually not call the cops.
>>70116596
You would get kicked out, and rightfully so.
>>70116877
That's literally what free speech is.
The only reason free speech exists is to protect people who are saying things that might offend someone.
Freedom of speech means you can be as much of an asshole as you want, as long as you're not disturbing the peace. The thing about it is, you have to understand that you have to accept responsibility for whatever it is you're spewing out your mouth. A lot of people seem to forget this.
Patel Pooinloo would laugh and say there isn't THAT much sand in India.
>tfw the nearest 7-11 is run by a total bro Indian dude, and knows the best Indian restaurants around
>>70118532
go scream fire in a packed cinema or Allahu Akbar on a plane then
>>70118616
i think you're miss understood what freedom of speech means.
it means that the state can't sue you, not that people can't.
>>70118731
You can not incite violence. Calling people stupid niggers all day is fine. You just cant talk a group of friends into lynching a nigger
>>70118616
>as long as you're not disturbing the peace
ambiguity, so just like our freedom of speech laws then.
United Kingdom citizens have a negative right to freedom of expression under the common law.[129] In 1998, the United Kingdom incorporated the European Convention, and the guarantee of freedom of expression it contains in Article 10, into its domestic law under the Human Rights Act. However, there is a broad sweep of exceptions including threatening, abusive or insulting words or behavior intending or likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress or cause a breach of the peace (which has been used to prohibit racist speech targeted at individuals)
>>70118913
and "insulting" has been removed from that btw
as of Feb 2014
>>70116596
Nope
feels good man
You can literally walk up to the president and call him a nigger and face no legal repercussions.
>>70117925
Pretty sure up here in cuckland insulting somebody is a crime.
>>70117007
I called a nigger a nigger and the cops came to ask me to apologize to him(his wife was a cop).
Everyone hated the dude afterwards.
>>70119059
http://fox40.com/2012/11/07/secret-service-investigating-turlock-womans-facebook-post/
>>70117811
Its not just stores anymore. They own every Subway here in california
Absolute madmen.
>>70119115
if you dont know the law dont guess it
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/14/insulting-section-5-public-order-act
>>70119169
Is this the story where she threatened to kill the president. You obviously cant do that.
>>70118796
I didn't say anything about the state. I said you had to accept responsibility. If I were to call someone a nigger, and he sues me and I have to deal with it, that's my accepting of responsibility for calling him a nigger. If I call a group of people a nigger and we get into a fight in the street, that's disturbance of peace, battery, and other shit I'm not gonna get into.
>>70119312
why not? its only words!
>>70116877
You can. A guy went to a college campus are started yelling at girls, saying they deserved rape.
If he can get away with that, you can get away with anything.
If it were in the context of a back-and-forth dispute, no.
If you came in and just dropped "sand nigger" on some random clerk, that could be "disorderly conduct".
>>70119363
Inciting violence is not free speech. I don't know what point you are trying to prove, but everyone here already knows you are a retard. Give it a rest already.
>>70119420
....if it bothered him.
>>70116596
No. Could you?
The Supreme Court is clear that fighting words are not protected speech under the First Amendment.
Calling someone a nigger or a sandnigger could be considered fighting words, particularly because it is directly personal in nature.
Why would you do that? Let the guy work.
>>70119481
Yes it would be a prisonable offence.
>>70117037
You're the nigger.
>>70119363
This is bait.
>>70117599
>"open the register and get on the fucking floor I have a gun/bomb/needle of HIV blood".
Sick lyrics my nigga.
>>70119563
oh wow and you call yourselves a first world country
>>70116596
Nope, but he could ask you to leave his store, which he has every right to do.
>>70116596
no, but it's be rude and you'd get dirty looks from people
>>70116877
As long as you don't say something threatening like "I'll killl you"
And as long as you don't blatantly lie to defame someone "John Smith, who is running for president of the US, is a convicted murderer"
You can say what you want
>>70117811
It's a worldwide conspiracy.
Either that or working in one of those places is really as bad as it looks.
>>70119690
mods deleted already ;_;
>>70117444
>The only issue I have is with the hate crimethink. Who cares if you called a nigger a nigger when you punched him.
Hate crimes have harsher sentencing because you're expected to do it again once you're out.
Time for story time you neckbeard faggots!
>Be me drunk after a bar drinking out with random people
>got hungry so on the way home I went to a popeye's and ordered some chicken wings and stuff
>I was so drunk this kid was the cashier but behind him was some tall guy
>hair and I could tell he was a jew
>so i said out loud
>who's a jew? you're a jew?
>the kid looks to the direction of what i believe is his manager
>/pol/ kicks in when i'm drunk and start hating
jews and other races.
>I look at the manager and ask him "you're a jew?"
>he looks at me and says, "yes why?"
>and that's when I went full on /pol/
cont??...
>>70119244
>madmen
Same here...
Something else is afoot here, some sort of racket, scheme or conditions.
Like they were given loans they can never pay back, they are slaves or something etc..
>>70119244
Chicagofag here...
7/11 full of indians
gas stations now... full of hindus
subways... same now... the owners are indians.
>>70118731
Fuck you're stupid
>>70119260
>if you dont know the law dont guess it
Good advice here. Ignorance of the law is not a strong defence. (Though if you can appear genuinely sorry, and promise to be a good boy in future, I've found it goes a long way.)
>>70119563
Hahahaha, wow. Going to prison just for fucking insulting people. They aren't kidding when they call your country a nanny state.
>>70119845
0/10
Marco Rubio Post.
>>70116596
Those cigarettes are cheap as fuck
Pack of marlboro reds here are about £10
>>70119422
>you're a retard
>only one providing actual laws disproving the notion we don't have freedom of speech
we can call Cameron a cunt to his face.
we can call the Queen a sponging waste of oxygen bitch
we can insult
What we can't do is harass, this would mean something like following somebody down the street screaming in their face, or making multiple twitter accounts to persistently harass somebody with nasty tweets.
We can get into trouble for credible threats like if you're in an argument with somebody and send them a message saying "watch out, I'm going to burn your house down and kill you and your family while you sleep".
Or promote terrorism and support things like ISIS.
People still do all these things, the worse somebody has got is 2 weeks in the clink, hardly a life sentence for acting like a complete scrote.
If the police was to arrest everybody who talks mean this place would need a thousand more prisons built, its all in the context and intent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhma12ZWQsQ
>>70119563
That's fucking ridiculous.
You can't make words illegal.
>>70120078
>>70120078
R E K T
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Britfag BTFO
Who will they ever recover?
>>70116596
>harassing a guy PURELY because he's a camel jockey, Indian, or whatever
>doing it at his place of work
No. If he's shitting in the street or in pieces because he blew himself at a bus stop, fine, but if he's running a Slushee machine and just trying to get by, leave him alone. Just because it's not illegal doesn't mean you're not an asshole for doing it.
>>70120182
I’m sorry, but did Rubio already lose? Oh, that’s right. The primary isn’t even over yet. In fact, it’s only New Hampshire. Does not having the lead in heroin central count as a loss? Is that what you’re saying? Because if you’re saying that I can assure you that you’re wrong. Why would you say this when the primary is still on? Rubio is still campaigning right now and they have been maintaining a strong position in the polls for how many months now? He’s going against a bunch of dirty politicians and holding his ground while at such a young age. Maybe you should shut the fuck up before you make retarded assumptions like this. You know why? Because you’re going to be embarrassed when Rubio wins and someone quotes you. Oh look at that, Trump just dropped a point. Are you a fucking drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a fucking idiot and you should never make a post like this and I’m fucking serious. I almost have a feeling you’re the only guy making all these anti-Rubio posts because you’re a faggot hater who doesn’t like Rubio because he’s hard working to the point of sweating heavily. Fuck you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll people on the internet, like I give a fuck. It’s so easy to spot your posts now, you’re a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don’t you try to be a good poster??? Just for one? For once in your fucking life try not to make a topic like this. That’s just you, you’re always right at getting it wrong. Fuck you. You are nothing
>>70120205
That's normal shit, the affects other peoples rights. We are talking about just calling someone a nigger in a public or private establishment. In front of your peers.
>>70116877
>>70116596
You can literally call a black guy a nigger if you want to
What you can't do is threaten the president. That is a federal offense
>>70116596
Nothing. He'd probably get pretty mad though, so he might refuse to do business.
>>70116877
Yes it does.
>>70120272
I guess I was just being a drunk asshole when I called a manager at a popeye's a "fucking jew" for no reason.
Feels bad.
>>70119772
>And as long as you don't blatantly lie to defame someone "John Smith, who is running for president of the US, is a convicted murderer" You can say what you want
No, you can say all of that, too, as long as it's not printed in any sort of publication, such as a newspaper. That's called libel and slander, and those are not protected by free speech.
>>70116596
He owns the store, so he can kick you out.
However, why would you insult a convenience store owner in the first place? These guys do a good job for the society.
>>70116596
No, but I'd have to choose a new gas station to go to. Plus the guy always knows what I'm buying. He has my cigarettes and sandwich on the counter before I even walk in the door. That's real customer service.
>>70119663
It's a prisonable offense in most first world countries. America is the exception, not the rule.
>>70120511
Have you met like India Indians? They're fucking awful people
>>70119166
What did he do ma make you call him a nigger?
>>70119375
>saying they deserved rape
Pretty risky. Sounds very close to inciting a crime.
>>70120684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPgk0Hv-eTc
>>70120585
I think my guy is an Arab. But there's an Indian in my class. Really smart, but he smells like ass, and it's not just the food he eats in our 50 minute class everyday.
>>70120573
America does it better than most first world countries, then. Suppressing hate doesn't make it go away, all it does is force it to fester under the surface.
>>70120362
no it is not illegal to say the word nigger or paki or whatever, its the exact same laws as America under a different wording.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGOdvwsIvqY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3793DK_dAs
>>70117248
Holy fuck you're dumb
>>70116877
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icqPHsNumuU
>>70119521
Wrong again nigger. The concept of fighting words specifically excludes race.
"In R.A.V. v. City of St. Paul (1992), the Court overturned a statute prohibiting speech or symbolic expression that "arouses anger, alarm or resentment in others on the basis of race, color, creed, religion or gender" on the grounds that, even if the specific statute was limited to fighting words, it was unconstitutionally content-based and viewpoint-based because of the limitation to race-/religion-/sex-based fighting words."
>>70120740
>>70116596
Why in the hell would you call a hardworking store owner a sandnigger?
Pussy
>>70116596
he would look at me funny probably
>>70116596
> could you be punished by law?
Hahahaaha, no.
>>70121179
BUILD
>>70116596
Depends.
If you walked in and said "sandnigger" and walked out, no.
If you stood in the stoor screaming at him like a retard for half an hour you would be arrested for harassment.
>>70121291
Jokes on you Trump was stumped yesterday
>>70116596
No, but any actions he chooses to take against you could potentially be justified.
>>70116596
if he is indian he will probably ignore you and go about his business, maybe cuss at you. if he is pakistani he will behead you and then claim that he dindunuffinracysm
>>70121378
The mexican meme warlock already predicted that.
>>70121378
> Trump was stumped
> About to win 95 delegates in NY
Enjoy the shit side of the wall, esse
>>70116596
While visiting some relatives or friends newborn baby and telling him 'Daaamn your baby is uglier then a mutt' is constitutionally/legally OK but none of us do it because it's socio/culturally abhorant behaviour...
Being known as an Asshat amongst your M8' is a shitty way to a happy life...
>>70120740
What a charming character.
He wants to be careful he doesn't try that shit on an SJW with good Jewish lawyer.
Even if he wins (probably would as he looks more stupid than dangerous) it could get very expensive.
>>70121071
WEWUZK A N G S
>>70121291
SPILLED IT
>>70120915
Amen to that, brother.
>>70120055
>>70116877
There are some limitations in regards to inciting violence, harassing behavior, etc. You can also be sued in civil court for making claims against someone you know are false(almost never happens, extremely difficult to prove).
However, respectfully stating an opinion that most people find offensive(eg: "all muslims are terrorists" "niggers are scum", "homosexuals should hang", etc..) is protected speech and it has to be. If you start making value judgements on speech then you don't really have free speech anymore.
>>70118796
The only thing you can really get sued for as a private citizen is libel and that's almost impossible to prove since the standard is they have to prove that you knew what you said to be false.
kike media has told me a vet will intervene and yell at me
>>70119166
You fucking did it? Call him a nigger again and read those fuckers the constitution.
>>70117599
>or yelling FIRE in your mom's bedroom
PAGING MR. MOONMAN
>This thread
I'm glad I don't live in the USA, it sounds horrible.
>>70116877
SHALL
