Homosexuality is genetic but Black criminality and low IQ isn't.
what's your point?
>>70116460
I think he's trying to point the hypocrisy of the left.
>>70116373
Homosexuality is usually because the child is conceived out of wedlock, also free choice to partake in such activities. There are many gay people who believe in God and abstain from partaking in homosexual acts.
IQ is 100% genetic. The crime thing is also free choice. Anyone can be a criminal. Unfortunately most blacks are raised by single mothers, have no guidance from a father figure, and blame the world for their problems.
>>70116652
But wouldn't that mean there are a lot of homosexuals in the black community due to all the births out of wedlock?
>>70116652
>IQ is 100% genetic
I'll have to disagree on that. Certainly genetics play a huge factor in this, but you can still train your IQ. You could also lower it.
>>70116373
>>70116644
I don't think anybody believes homosexuality is passed from parent to child, or is a trait of certain groups of people.
I think the 'homosexuality' is genetic and sexual orientation is fixed at birth is way oversimplified, and people are moving away from it. But it was at one point in time necessary to say it in order to get people to accept homos.
>>70116652
HA!
This is the funniest pseudoscientific bullshit I have seen in ages.
>>70117067
So homosexuality is a choice?
Careful, I might get triggered.
>>70116652
Actually that's not the correlation
Homosexuality has been correlated to high levels of estrogen in the womb for male children, usually the result of a later life pregnancy.
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2012/12/homosexuality-may-start-womb
>>70116865
There are a ton of homosexuals in the black community, but they tend to be on the DL because of how much black men hate black gay men. This "I have to have sex quickly and on the down low" mentality is also why black homosexuals have a geometrically higher HIV infection rate. Curiously they don't mind white gay guys. I theorize this is because they buy their drugs from them.
>>70116373
Being gay is something you are born with, Race is a social construct!!
>>70116865
There are. In fact black Homosexuals(men) have the highest rate of AIDS based on number.
>>70116944
Well, yes. That is true. But base IQ is genetically determined for the most part.
>>70117116
I'm sorry you feel that way. Nice rebuttal.
>>70117238
I mean, some people say that they have chosen their sexuality. I mean more that it is quite difficult to make sense of sexuality without paying attention to cultural and social norms about sex, attraction etc.
>>70117335
'homosexuality is due to being conceived out of wedlock' is such bullshit that it doesn't deserve a rebuttal. You're on some flat-earth level shit. I do hope you are trolling.
>>70117297
It's both. Obviously what I have said about being born out of wedlock cannot be proven. But yes, it's also true that homosexuality is the result of genetic defect due to improper cell multiplication, however there are cell "fixers" that usually catch these improper "mutations" and fix them. But obviously they don't catch everything.
>>70117460
I am 100% serious my friend.
>>70116865
There are more black gay men then white or asiàn gays. The Asian gays are funny I think. Could you imagine being gay AND Asian, and having to explain that to your father? Fucking priceless. I feel so bad for those people, also gay black men who are also Jews.
>>70117566
how exactly would conceiving a baby out of wedlock make someone gay? what's the reasonning behind it?
>>70116373
"Republicans have a lower IQ than liberals"
"There is no IQ difference in race"
liberals will argue for the first sentence and deny the second.
>>70117671
Satan.
>>70117855
Okay, thanks for trolling. Not too bad, but you gave away the game.
>>70116652
>Homosexuality is usually because the child is conceived out of wedlock
>>70117910
100% serious.
Homosexuality is likely either a genetic anomaly relating to chemical imbalances during early development or brought about by life events during childhood.
In my case it was likely the latter. Doesn't mean I'm going to sit here loathing myself for it though. The worst part is how I'm inherently a special snowflake to so many people, honestly.
>>70117389
So I chose to fuck girls instead of guys? I don't have a natural attraction to females?
>>70118152
Where did I say that? Why are you unable to read or follow a few sentences?
>>70118152
He/she said some people choose their sexuality. Key word is some. Men are supposed to have a natural attraction to females, and they mostly do. It is our biological nature to reproduce. Which is why homosexuality is an abnormality.
>>70118218
>>70118519
Saying "some" choose their sexuality while others do not sounds like a cop out and refusal to take a stance on the issue.
>>70118708
It is. Not defending them, they think I am a Troll. Just clarifying with you what they were attempting to say.
>>70118519
>>70118708
It seems irrational to think that you can "choose to like" anything. I mean, you can stop yourself from partaking in something. But if you have the desires within you, it's already inherently there.
>>70118875
I agree with you.
>>70116373
Homosexual desire isn't a choice. No one would choose to have such a sick and twisted perversion.
However, we all have a choice when it comes to our behavior. There are thousands of people with SSA who choose not to act on those desires.
https://everlastinghills.org/movie/
God loves you.
>>70119046
Don't be an autist, Anon. People repressing all of their desires ultimately makes things far worse in the end. Everyone knows that.
>>70119299
So pedophiles should be allowed freedom? What about Cannibals? Rapists? Murderers?
They should not repress those desires?
That would make things better?
I'm not sure who the autist here is, but it isn't him.
>>70118708
How is it a copout to claim that a phenomena is more complicated? I mean I am sure that you would like to be able to understand everything about sexuality and sexual desire from your desk without doing anything more than skimming a wikipedia article and reflecting on your own masturbation habits, but that isn't very realistic, is it?
>>70119299
Yes Anon, never try to suppress a desire. If you have that desire that means God made you that way and put those desires there. That means he wants you to do it. :^)
>>70116652
IQ is believed to be like 75-80% genetic.
Bad nutrition and defficiencies can lower your IQ tremendously
>>70116373
How cringey. A Person who is so permanently butthurt at Christianity because a pastor told his filthy gay ass to fuck off to hell.
I would have no problem with that faggot being ovened all day long
>>70119427
I didn't realize that rape was a sexual orientation. And pedophilia is understood to be a paraphilia, not an orientation.
And even if they are: no.
Homosexuality is developmental, not genetic.
>>70119427
>>70119533
>b-but if we let consenting adults fuck pedophiles will rape kids :^)
You are the cancer of the right wing.
>>70118870
Thanks.
>>70118875
I agree.
I really don't even care about the topic. Gays can gay it up behind closed doors, whatever, just get out of my face about it. I just don't think it can be considered a choice when I already liked girls and the thought of stuff with a dude never once crossed my mind before I learned that homosexuality was a thing. I never got to sit down and debate with myself if I should bang dudes or not, I had already liked girls, then I learned some boys like boys. It being a choice seems like bullshit to me.
>>70119505
Because you are making claims without backing anything up. How can you possibly explain how some people sit down one day and decide "you know what? I'm gonna fuck dudes for the rest of my life" instead of having some sort predetermined notion to feel attracted to the same sex, yet at the same time, others don't? I mean, if you can, then I'm all ears. Like I said, I don't have a strong stance in any case, I just haven't heard an explanation.
>>70119633
They are sexual desires. Same thing as homosexuality. It is a desire.
>>70116373
Both are probably genetic, best plausible theory is that homosexuality is caused by a gene that has positive effects in females, such as higher fertility.
Aggressive behaviour probably helped africans survive in the harsh environment of the savannas. There is no single path to genetic adaptation to the environment, and genetics/epigenetics are way more complicated than simply "gene A express trait a".
>>70116652
What if their god doesn't care about buttfucking?
>>70119839
I'm reporting on how plenty of people describe their sexuality and choices, which is data that any account of orientation and attraction will have to make sense of.
>>70119809
Pedophiles already rape kids, dude.
You obviously didn't read their previous post and commented without understanding context. You are the cancer of 4chan.
>>70120006
>doesn't know the difference between a pedophile and a child molester
>>70119872
So there is no difference between a desire and an orientation? My desire to cum on peoples toes is the exact same thing is being heterosexual?
How about people who like latex? Are they genetically determined to be aroused by rubber?
>>70119878
There is only one God, if any. Butt holes were not made for sex. They aren't self lubricating, not to mention the damage which cane be caused by analyzing intercourse.
Whether you believe in God or not. Not even mother nature made butt holes for that purpose. It is there to excrete waste.
>>70120090
10/10 bait. Nice proxy ausbro.
>>70120155
'nature' didn't make anything for any purpose. At least give a somewhat accurate non-teleological account of evolutionary theory if you are going to mention it.
>>70120104
There is a big difference, don't know how you ended up here.
Those are all sexual desires. There is one true orientation and that is heterosexuality. Everything else is a perversion.
>>70120220
pedophiles means you're attracted sexually to children, that's it. no mention of rape.
>>70120220
Judging by the quality of your shitposting, you definitely aren't Australian.
>>70119782
You're half right. Like most behaviors, homosexuality is epigenetic.
>>70120270
Nature didn't make trees to produce oxygen? It all has no purpose yet is completely homogenous and a self sustaining system, which every part plays a role and serves a purpose, yet it wasn't designed that way?
Please.
>>70120402
lol but you can't have consensual sex with children, at least as 'consensual sex' is currently (and I think correctly) understood.
>>70120402
>>70120424
And yet the main argument for not legalizing muh pedophilia is because children cannot consent.
Therefore any sexual act with a child is rape. Piss off.
>>70120489
that's another subject. Definition of pedophilia doesn't include any requied sexual intercourse with anything, only sexual attraction toward prepubescent children.
>>70116373
But Homosexuality is a mental disease
>>70120440
No, it didn't.
I mean I get that from a theological perspective God did create these things with a purpose. But on a non-religious scientific perspective no, trees were not created to produce oxygen, and nothing serves a 'purpose'. There is also nothing called 'nature' that plays a role analogous to that of God that would have designed or created anything of these things for any purpose.
>>70117238
Homosexuality is as much of a choice as my preference for big tits is a choice. You like what you like and that's just the end of the discussion.
>>70120090
:^)
>>70120504
I am sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children. No, really, i am. I also haven't raped any children. By your logic, i am not a pedophile.
>>70120504
It seems pretty airtight to me, retard. Getting fucked as a child has been proven to lead to mental problems later in life.
>>70120624
Mother nature created them the same. God isn't necessary to believe that.
Everything serves a purpose, intentional or not. I believe it is intentional. Mother nature has been at this game for a very long time.
>>70120640
Not sure where you get that, you are definitely a pedophile.
>>70120640
well then quit hanging out on 4chan and go into therapy.
>>70120627
I agree.
>>70120736
Not sure what you are getting at. I never said it didn't.
>>70120801
Believing in 'mother nature' on your view just is believing in God, although not the God of any particular faith I guess.
And there is no such thing as something serving a purpose in the sense you have in mind that is not intentional.
Listen, if you ask any biologist whether or not the purpose of trees is to produce oxygen they will tell you 'no'. You may not like that answer, but that is what it will be.
>homosexuality is genetic
>but twins might have different sexualities
How do left wingers explain this?
>>70120846
Why would i? The sexual attraction i feel towards children is exactly the same as the sexual attraction i feel toward women. Do you imagine a therapy aimed at removing your sexual attraction toward women?
>>70120954
Then why do they exist? That is what trees do. Why do butt holes exist if not to excrete waste? Why does water exist? Why does anything exist? It's very simple, to serve a purpose.
>Come out to my father about boyfriend
>He tells me he's accepting of it but thinks it's unnatural
>Accept that and thank him
>We spend the next hour talking about how much we hate most gay people and how public they are about it
I hate faggots. See, you don't have to agree with me and I'm completely fine with you not liking homosexuals but god damn it I hate faggots. I hate the rainbow flags bullshit, I hate "gay pride", and I hate people who aren't gay that try to push the "LGBT" garbage.
These people are all fetish freaks and love wanking in public, I just want to have a nice relationship with my boyfriend IN PRIVATE. I know you guys don't like seeing it, and so do these faggots. The difference? I make an active approach to not do stuff in public because I know a lot of people think it's unnatural and it just makes me a target for blacks. These faggots wear leather g-strings and feathers like they're about to go spear fishing in the putungatunga river with their tribe. And then they yell that you're not being accepting! I fucking hate it because that's the public image for gays now.
I'm so fucking sorry that these faggots have to act like such...well, faggots.
>>70120970
1/10 bait or education.
not even left.
>>70120970
Twins aren't ACTUALLY genetically identical, besides you're also forgetting epigenetics.
>>70121081
muh nigga
>>70121078
No, there is no reason that they exist in terms of purposes they serve. There are causal explanations for their development, but none of these explanations ever make use of or point to a purpose they serve. Sorry.
>>70120801
>you are definitely a pedophile
You're right, he is. But he isn't a child molester.
To people in the field it's pretty clear that niggers have a genetic predisposition to violence. It's just not the kind of topic you want to receive recognition for. Because muh feels >> the truth nowadays.
Numerous studies have now proven that niggers have a disproportionate higher rate of people with a gene called monoamine oxidase A, or MAOA. This gene produces an enzyme that breaks down the neurotransmitters that activate many of the brain’s circuits. Ever wondered why some nigger risks life in prison robbing a cornerstore, possibly killing the cashier for sport, all for 200 bucks? Well, MAOA! That's why rule #1 is to avoid the groid as much you can. They are unpredictable like wild animals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hSQDArsn_4&playnext=1&list=PLE55C3431C1E754B2
>>70116652
IQ is 60% genetic.
>>70121257
>causal explanations for their development
>as in why they develop the way they do
>not to serve a purpose
It seems you want to say it random. Which it isn't. If it was we wouldn't have the homogenous system we do. It would be chaotic and life would never have gotten the chance to exist.
Many steps and causes which led to certain effects made life possible.
Remove any particular thing from the chain and life is not possible.
>>70121347
All child molesters are pedophiles, not all pedophiles molest children. But they all have the desire to.
>>70121583
How do you explain your post here then?
>>70120006
>>70121552
I mean 'natural selection' is in a sense supposed to do a lot of the explanatory work, but it is true that there is a sense in which it is random because 'natural selection' doesn't ever select for one trait present in an organism, so you get 'free riders' as you will.
But yes, this is why evolutionary biology is a vast and complex field, as is population genetics etc.
It's interesting, you should look into it! But if you ask 'does this exist to serve x purpose', the answer is always strictly speaking no.
>>70121668
I never said all of them. Pretty simple.
>>70116373
When the black awakening happens, I'll look for these ones.
>>70121823
Nice backpedal.
>>70121785
Then why do they? Why have we found so many purposes for everything? Read that, if you come back and tell me that trees don't exist for all of those reasons, I will be amazed. It is not random, therefore it is intentional.
http://www.savatree.com/whytrees.html
>>70117238
I think it's something influenced by various environmental and social factors, the whole choice/genetic thing is a false dichotomy to begin with.
>>70121930
No, you just realized you made a mistake. It's okay, we all do.
>>70122023
>gets proven wrong
>"n-no you're actually wrong"
>>70121963
>Then why do they? Why have we found so many purposes for everything?
You're trying to find a type of explanation that science isn't concerned with, philosophy is, many people dedicate their entire lives but in the end their answer will always be subjective.
>it's not random
The only way you could prove that would be by presenting proof that it's not.
>>70122158
You didn't prove me wrong about anything. Getting real sick of your shit proxy using ausbro.
>>70122181
It's completely homogenous and everything goes around in a chain, making life as we know it, possible.
If it was random, there is no reason we would end up with the system we do. It would be haphazard and life simple wouldn't exist.
Without trees we would all die, even if there was another source of oxygen. We would all die from carbon monoxide poisoning.
Trees provide oxygen and food. Two of the absolutely necessary things to sustain, and in the first place produce life.
>>70122396
>"I never said _____"
>gets show a post where he said _____
You will soon realize how much better your shitposting on this thread could have been and you will feel bad about it.
>>70122650
I never said all of them. In fact, I said that after you were asking me "to explain this post", which clearly did not say all.
Do you deny that pedophiles rape children? Obviously you don't. I am done with you.
>>70117297
>>70116652
These are correlated, but don't get at the true reason.
The real reason is:
When a woman is pregnant with a son, his male hormones from the womb cause a compensatory androgen-suppressing response from the woman (since the male hormones are seen as foreign by the immune system).
And every time the mother has another son, the androgen-suppressing response gets stronger.
If there is a big enough androgen suppressing response during pregnancy, the fetal son's brain becomes feminized, and he becomes gay.
So for every son a woman has, her next son has a 33% higher chance of being gay (relative to baseline).
This does not mean genetics does not play a role -- as women with genetically stronger androgen-suppressing responses are more likely to produce a gay son regardless of birth order.
See:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8540587
Blanchard R, Bogaert AF (January 1996). "Homosexuality in men and number of older brothers". Am J Psychiatry 153 (1): 27–31. doi:10.1176/ajp.153.1.27.
>>70122778
Same.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkeyN2fWnF4
why do they talk feminine and have a much higher voice?
when i was in elementary school i remember hearing kids already sounding flamboyant so i think it might actually be a genetic thing
>>70122605
You are putting the cart before the horse.
X biological creature has y feature because it was led to more offspring being created, more offspring with that trait/feature.
If said trait starts making the creature less likely to reproduce, it won't pass it along to as many children, evolving to fit their environment. The only purpose is to replicate the genes. There is no other purpose.
If trees didn't produce oxygen, life would adapt to the new environment, all because those who can survive are the only ones that can reproduce and replicate their genes
>>70122605
It is random, but with two all encompassing principles.
Resources are scarce.
Whoever can replicate the best gets the most resources, making you replicate even better.
>>70122843
I know a guy who is gay who's younger brother isn't. This would directly contradict that.
>>70123869
No biological life can exist without oxygen.
>>70124171
If it has guiding principles it is not random.
>>70125201
It is a % chance, not an absolute. Even if there is a 99.9% chance the boy will be gay, he may still come out straight.
>>70123869
There's actually no purpose, the gene is more likely to spread because it causes traits that make the individual more likely to reproduce, it's an automatic system with no purpose on it much like chemistry.
>>70126123
>No biological life can exist without oxygen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaerobic_organism
>>70126123
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaerobic_organism
OK well if you don't call that random then you can't say the ecosystem is random
>>70126380
Depends on what your definition of purpose but yea I would generally agree with you but I'm trying to educate this guy
>>70126734
If you keep this narrative he'll, if the info ever gets through his thick head, think that the purpose of life is then reproduction, when in fact it's just a very simple logical system.
>>70126524
Very well, one thing can. As compared to every form which cannot. It is not advanced either.
>>70126536
I have been arguing from the beginning that it is not random. And that everything serves a purpose.
>>70117593
>dad, I'm Asian
>>70126896
>one thing
It's a classification with many species on it.
>everything serves a purpose
Explain genetically defective individuals that are either born dead or with a defect that prevents it from reproducing.
>>70127372
They are genetically defective. Due to improper cell multiplication. We have systems which are supposed to catch and repair these, but sometimes things get through.
>>70127372
If by many species you mean fucking 4, of which the three can tolerate or use oxygen and only one is harmed by it.
