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How far does it need to go to not be considered incest anymore?
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How far does it need to go to not be considered incest anymore? What's your personal view on it? Would you date your 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc. cousin? How far down the line are you fine with?
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>>70087525
I'd fuck my first cousin, tbqh.
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I would impregnate my first cousin if she wasn't a degenerate.
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>>70087525
Depends on how many cousins you have.
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Despite Western countries having a fit if cousins get married, the practice is quite common in many parts of the world. Not just in Royal families, either.
Common in many isolated parts of the world.
Open google maps and navigate to the arctic region.
Any town in that region with less than1000 inhabitants is guaranteed to have some serious cousin marrying happening.
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>>70087697
What difference does it make?

>>70088085
But that's because they're small numbers compared to us millions.
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>>70088292
Well if you only have one cousin, you can only bang one cousin.
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>>70088400
....? What does that have to do with topic?
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>>70088471
Don't be gay you fucking leaf.
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>>70087525
Just do it. Genetic failure among first cousins its a myth, it only applies to muslims who practice it all the time and hace close genes stress.

Its a social issue and how your inner family looks at it. If she really worths it, fight for her.
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>>70088085
1st cousin marriage is allowed in Japan too
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>>70088657

fritzl/10
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Second Cousin
>tfw you can never make love to your qt second cousin
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>>70089763
you can just ride the designated raping trains/buses/taxis
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Second cousin looks like Gianna Michaels and always flirts with me. Its taken everything in me to control myself but to suck her huge fits and fuck the hell out of her would be amazing.
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>>70090030
If you really wanted to, you would have already done it. 2nd or 3rd cousin is completely fine genetically. Surely is better than interracial relationships
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>>70090003
She's too pure to taint though
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>>70087525
Back when I was in high school, I went to a family wedding, where I met a girl who was pretty attractive, but I found out that she was the daughter of a guy who my stepmom's sister was dating. There were a couple of people there (including my dad) who kept trying to get us to dance and stuff, but the whole thing still weirded me out. We technically weren't married, but if they ever got married, we would have legally been cousins. The level of separation is

me>stepmom>stepmom's sister>stepmom's sister's boyfriend>stepmom's sister's boyfriend's daughter

Did I fuck up? Was I overthinking it?
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>>70090270
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO POO IN IT
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First cousin is not incest
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>>70090312
Fug no

>>70090343
I think First Cousin is considered incest
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Sex doesn't always make babies

is it really so wrong to fuck your cousin?

>tfw met a cousin I never met before last thanksgiving
>she's high-test as FUARK
>also ~10 years older than me and supposedly underfucked since she still lives with my dad's cousin
>think she was 'mirin me as I was leaving but she's my cousin so I'm on the fence about this one
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>>70087525
My brothers wife wants to hook me up with her cousin who she isn't even blood related to.
Don't know how to feel desu
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Not related, but I married my best friend's sister and it's a bit disorienting when we're making love since they resemble each other so much.
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>>70090343

>First cousin is not incest
muh viking
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>>70090431
>your brother's wife's cousin
Why is this a problem?
Just fug her :DDD
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>>70087525
If they are family it's incest. The inbreeding depression is a meme and the risk is small unless forced over many generations. Incest is actually taboo because it distorts family roles.
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>>70087525
I fI remember well, statistically, people who marry their 3rd cousin have the most grand-children. So 3rd
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>>70090454
Pls tell me your best friend is a grill
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>>70090420
Loveless fetish sex is degenerate.
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>>70087525
3rd cousin or more is fine for genetics.
don't date your 1st or 2nd cousins it'll make your kids (if you have any) less healthy
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>>70090307
Definitely. Listen to your balls! They don't care about "step" bullshit.
You missed out on some great puss
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Cousin fucking/marriage is legal here, but I've never met anyone who does it. I don't really give a shit what people do, if they are happy and in love and good for eachother, then who am I to say they shouldn't?
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>>70087525
Reproduction with first cousins carries as much risk of birth defects as having a baby over the age of 35. In the US, laws are very inconsistent regarding incest. In one stage, you can start a family with your cousin. Cross the border to another state, and you can face jail time just for having sex.

And b4 the "Americans are cousin fuckers" meme shows up, Europe has a higher rate of consanguinity than even the southern states of the US.
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>>70090586
3rd cousins are the optimal breeding partners to preserve genes with minimal risk of complication (assuming the 3rd cousin isn't mixed race)
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I could actually fuck my aunt and genetically it wouldn't count as incest
> grandmom and grandad conceive my mom
> granddad divorces grandma and remarries another later in life
> ends of up having another daugter not long before I was born
> moms (who's 40) has a sister who is only a month older then I am (22)
Too bad aunt is very ye old Christan , she's cute as fuck and has the old sorta personality that doesn't exist anymore vert similar to pic related
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>>70090431

If she's trying to hook you up with her she probably is fat and/or has kids. Girls without crippling drawbacks usually have more than enough dudes barking up their tree and don't need relatives to find dick for them.
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>>70090597
See >>70090631
There's less than a 2% chance of birth defects for first cousins. The difference between first and third cousins is almost negligible
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>>70087525

if you grew up together with your cousins and treated each other like siblings then its disgusting to think of fugging them.

however, if you never met them, then you saw them in a family gathering in their high test form, wanting to fug them doesnt seem so bad.

still its a bit bad
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>>70087525
>friend cousin on FB
>look through her photos
>made sure never to click on any shit accidentally
>find out eventually cousin defriended
Is it already incest when just the question as a thought comes up?
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>>70090586
I remember the same thing. Evryone go for 3rd cousin. They are the most fertile for you. I should call mine again....
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>>70090587
Nope. It's strangely arousing and equally repulsive staring into her eyes as I ejaculate and seeing my friend's face.
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>>70087525
Ashkenazi jews are literally all third cousins.

So in terms of avoiding inbreeding depression, third cousins are acceptable for a single generation. After that I would require 5th cousins.
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>>70087525
Third cousin couplings produce the most genetically fit offspring. They strike a perfect balance between inbreeding depression, and outbreeding depression. This is at least true in animals, and I've no reason to believe it's different for humans.
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>>70087525
Actually dating my first cousin.

AMA I suppose...
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>>70087525

They have to be an entirely different race.
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>>70090872
>kiwis
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>>70090770
Uhhhhh
Sure, i mean if that's what gets you into it

>>70090872
Is she a sheep?
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>>70090307
>legal cousins
>stepmom

you fucked up, there's literally zero danger of genetic defects should you have had kids with her
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>>70090872
What does your family say?
Who did the first move?
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>>70090760
Mine has a crush on me but she's underage so it's more innocent than sexual. She didn't know I was her third cousin and thought I was just her first cousins friend or something. She got all sulky when I told her but her little sister was ecstatic. Fun contrast.
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>>70090872
do you get wool from it?
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>>70090872
Is she a big sheep for ewe?
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>>70090872
Is his dick bigger than yours?
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>>70090979
How much underage? Don't underestimate 13 year olds
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>>70090973
Most of the family who knows are cool with it but they dont all know.

She came out on rampage with some friends, I started flirting with her pretty hard as a kind of joke.

Then she came back to mine and maneuvered into my bed and onto muh dick...
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>>70091012
>>70091060
>>70091087
>>70090932
no
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>>70087525
An occasional 1st cousin is fine as long as it doesn't become a habit in the family tree. Basically you just need to keep it rare enough in a given line so the risks don't add up. I think all families should have some old person in charge of keeping track of these thing to put pressure on bad marriage choices.
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>>70087525
Did it with my cutie second cousin. She was about 14, I was about 16. Long time ago now. Might have been the first time I licked a pussy but I'm not sure.
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>>70087525
2nd cousins. No genetic relation.

I've never met any of my 2nd cousins, personally.
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>>70091135
How old are you two?
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>>70091221
None?
That's weird
I have around 7 second cousins and they're all grills
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>>70091093
especially in basements
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>>70090872
>when you have more sheep than people
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>>70091291

>I have around 7 second cousins and they're all grills
daz metal mane
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>>70091093
12 but she seems to only be in early puberty. She acts a little too innocent around me to the point where I can hardly tell her apart from her 7 year old sister, but I got one mind glimpse of a "god mom your embarrassing me" so she isn't totally without inhibitions.

I let her cuddle into me, but I tried to play with the little sister more because I knew it might come off as borderline flirty.

I have a feeling she will be out of my league once puberty starts gaining speed so I'm not worried.
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Doesn't matter as long as they don't breed.
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>>70091301
Why can't they accept our love for each other?!?
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>>70091221
2nd cousins have relations
It's just the child of your parents cousin.
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>>70091277
mid 30s
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Spiderman thread
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>>70090631
This.

All joking about you inbred crackers aside, the genetic risks of incest are greatly exaggerated and while virtually everyone has some form of incest taboo most cultures through most of human history have clearly allowed and even encouraged unions that 21st century westerners are taught to think of as icky and taboo.

Not just cousin marriage (which is today and as far as anyone knows has always been the most common form of marriage in large parts of the world for both social and economic reasons) but even marriage of brothers and sisters has been a common practice with little if any evidence of genetic harm even after many many generations.

For instance in Egypt, it's not that commonly known but brother-sister marriage was clearly a common practice all the way back to pre-monarchic times and probably even up to the Islamic conquest. Not just by the royal family, but at all levels of society.

The incest taboo doesn't have to be viewed as being about genetics though. It seems to be more about who grew up with whom than who is genetically related.
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>>70091291
POO IN LOO
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>>70091425
it aint love when there's a door in the house but only you have the key
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>>70091353
Ye but most of them are too young like 12 years or so
Only two are around my age
One is fucking ugly and the other one is designated qt
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>>70091524
>Ye but most of them are too young like 12 years or so
patience is a virtue
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>>70091398
Good choice. 12 year olds surely have romantic fantasies, but are never ready to experience them. Next time only make out with her, but don't go further
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>>70091482
Oh great. my ID is COCK. Nice.
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>>70087525
>How far does it need to go to not be considered incest anymore?
this far
â—„â—„â—„
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>>70091618
Patience is for the meek

>>70091675
>3COCK
Nice.
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>>70091618
grooming is degenerate. If you groom them, act as the catcher in the rye to preserve innocence, not sully it.
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>>70091501
She is too young to handle keys
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>>70091635
Is this one of your 12 year old fantasies?
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>>70091437
I thought 2nd cousins were your cousin's cousins, but not yours.
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>>70091712
>Patience is for the meek

you mean dick?
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>>70091809
your second cousins are you're parents first cousins.
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>>70091718
not your key
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>>70091813
Yes.
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>>70091809
They're your parents cousins kids. So your great aunt/great uncle is your 2nd cousins grandparent
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>>70087525
Technically in all creation stories including evolution we are all related. So we are commiting incest right now. Pretty funnt, right?
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>>70091716
well what choice does he have?
train/bus/taxi or good old fashioned grooming?
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>>70091472
The taboo exists because people have always been jelly of those who are related (and thus get to spend more time with/have a greater chance of fucking) to hot people. They just want to outright ban it because it makes them "sick", where sick means jealous.

Consanguinity can be bad over time, but Cleopatra turned out alright after several generations of it. It takes Hapsburgs levels of "keeping it in the family" before it becomes a serious problem.

Still, just say they can all do it as long as they do not reproduce with one another. Removes a lot of legal headaches.
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>>70091855
My mistake, then. There should be no blood relation, unless you have no intentions to breed, going so far to agree to abortion if the worst should happen.

But if you aren't gonna breed, knock yourself out with your mom/sister.
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>>70087525
Don't do this, unless you want your descendants to end up looking like Charles II
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>>70091782
Not really. But look out for Jemenis or how they are called. They are allowed to fuck their 9year old wives. Such a great culture. We need more of them in Europe
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>>70091981
You clearly have no knowledge on the subject. So stop trying to give advice. Defects are not the primary reason incest is taboo.
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>>70091943
kek

>>70091716
I have no sexual inhibitions to them at all
They're like sisters to me
I do wanna fug my other second cousin tho, she's my age but she's way out my league desu
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>>70092234
>They are like sisters to me

doesn't mean much in an incest thread desu
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>>70087525
There is no line. If there is no God, then everything is permitted.
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>>70092352
Fine
What about daughters then?
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>>70092181
Defects are the given reason, you dumbass. The real reason is because of rapid changes in legal atmosphere in the 19th and 20th centuries that led to shit laws like the AoC at 18 and prohibition. Moral faggotry was at an all time high, and people were getting laws passed because of muh fee-fees.

Same thing happening now.
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>>70092506
wait that's even worse
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>>70087525
I would impregnate my sister, if I had one ;_;
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>>70092505
While I believe there is no God, I don't think it's a reason to act like a barbarian.

Just saiyan
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>>70092698
You wouldn't. If you are being raised by the same parents you will automatically not be attracted to each other. Even if its your stepsister
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>>70088085

I wouldn't call the whole Muslim world an isolated part of the world.
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>>70092610
You're an idiot who can't see though anything but his unrelated lens. incest has always been taboo. You're just too much of an autistic lolbertarian to have any nuanced understanding of what constitutes family.
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>>70092698
Trust me Costa Rica, life's not like a hentai
My friends always talk about how my sister is hot as fuck but I'd never fuck her, I don't feel attracted to her at all
Asked my friend who has a sister too and he felt the same way
You won't feel like fucking the person that you were raised alongside, that's just how it is
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>>70092914
But my parents got divorced when I was 12 and I have been seitching homes for 8 or 9 years
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>>70092991
>Life's not a hentai
Welp, time to kill myself, it was fun to shitpost and all
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>>70087525
If you can link the person to someone in your family history then don't fuck it.
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>>70093023
good reasons for degeneracy. live your dreams :)
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>>70092914
The Westermarck effect isn't guaranteed and it varies.

Even without it, most westerners have been conditioned to feel repulsed at any family relation, however distant, and feel shame when they do feel attracted to the point where pursuing a relationship is not even considered as an option. If only other forms of sexual deviancy was so taboo.
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>>70093113
Yeah, I was pretty depressed when I found out too
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>>70093222
But that is not a natural repulsion. If you and your siblings were seperated after birth and you met them as an adult, you wouldn't banging them. Only after someone tells you that you are siblings you would reconsider. Of course some people behave differently, biäut they are neglectible
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>>70087525

>Dating ANY cousin

Fuck off, degenerate.
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>>70093569
wouldn't mind banging them*
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>>70093606
Ok now it makes sense
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>>70093569
The effect doesn't work without the context of a family either.
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>>70093922
explain
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>he doesn't do mummy cummys

Best part of Christmas break desu.
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>>70091472
>>70091961
>>70092610
>inbreeding doesn't create a higher chance of defect babies

top kek the delusions on the fake "redpilled" progressivist degenerates

it just so happens that societies where inbreeding is common, the society lives in the gutter

too much obsession with sex

i don't see anyone talking about helping out the relative, only fucking the relative

this is what's going to break the west
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>>70092914
i have a 14 year old half-sister. I know her since birth. She has such a dayuum juicy ass for her age. I could burry my dick inside her, and only the true king of england could pull it out again.
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>>70094493
Is this bait?
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>>70094653
why would it be?

all i see among the goyim and the western world is people who only ever want one thing and it's to fuck

you desire this so much you even contemplate fucking your own kin

no wonder you faggots are so easy to manipulate, exploit, scam and abuse
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>>70094651
>only the true king of england could pull it out again.
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>>70087525
Married to a second cousin 19yo qt3.14. We been always playfull towards each other
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>>70095401
Lucky faggot ;_;
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>>70094768
>>70094768
Because it's retarded

> fake red pill

the objective science on the affects of consanguinity is there. The blue pill exaggerates it.

> progressive
no. mostly misguided lolbertarians who want muh no government absolute freedom. Not you must accept incest love no hate! Progressive garbage.

> inbreeding is common the societies is shit

most blue pilled shit I've heard. Do you really think inbreeding is the primary reason for failure in shitholes? Or even where it is more prevalent to be so common that is makes a major impact? There are many reasons why they are shit and why the people are shit.

> helping a relative

what does this even mean in this context. why would this be talked about?

> only fucking a relative

welcome to 4chan newfag

>break the west

already broken when salvation ethics replaced virtue ethics and then totally destroyed with the french revolution.


Incest is a justified taboo because it protects the sanctity of traditional family roles, and because fetish sex is degenerate and incest is more likely to be done because of family relation and not in-spite of it ala actual love which is only found in mutual limerants.

the family is something kikes are trying to destroy and have the government replace.

I fully agree about sex destroying the abilty to gauge the seriousness of a relationship and now being used to start a relationship instead of being the culmination of it, but it's not /pol/ who is perpetuating this. It's liberal college chads and Stacie with tinder and marxists with the no slut shaming.
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>>70095590
I think incest is okay as long as there's no direct blood-relation
Example sister, first cousin is direct-blood relation
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>>70095739
Oh course you do. You've bought into the blue pill nonsense that it's the risk of complications that makes it bad (which are often negligible) and not the effect on the family and character of those involved.
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>>70096036
No, its more because I'd rather not fuck my sister and other people with sisters usually tend to share my opinions on this
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all white people are technically cousins, the only way forwards is racemixing
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>>70096263
Good goys always race mix
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>>70096263
Sorry, greatest ally, I'll keep it in the family
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>>70094651
my my the ficki has gotten into your mind
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>>70095492
Poo
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>>70095590
>The blue pill exaggerates it.
no it doesn't

it's like the whole "one mnms in a bag of 100 is poisonous and will kill you"

you can't take the risk


nothing would kill me more than having a trisomic baby

>most blue pilled shit I've heard. Do you really think inbreeding is the primary reason for failure in shitholes?

i've stated a fact

consinguinity is common in shit societies

in shit societies, consanguinity is common

>what does this even mean in this context. why would this be talked about?

instead of just wanting to fuck that relative how about helping that relative out?

the type of stories that appear the most in this thread is adult male with underaged relative female

that underaged relative female could learn so much from the adult male, yet the only thing we hear from these adult males is "i wanna fug her :DDD"

>already broken when salvation ethics replaced virtue ethics and then totally destroyed with the french revolution.

that's a cheap cop out

>ncest is a justified taboo because it protects the sanctity of traditional family roles, and because fetish sex is degenerate and incest is more likely to be done because of family relation and not in-spite of it ala actual love which is only found in mutual limerants.

the science you hail so much proves that birth defects are more likely to happen if it happens with a relative

it's a question of statistics and every human being has an inner understanding of statistics

why is the fat kid picked on? why is the faggot kid disliked by everyone? why is the slut shamed by everyone? why is the smelly kid pointed at? why is the violent kid alone?

the fact is this: people promoting incestuous relationships only want access to quick easy pussy
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>>70097127
Why do you hate Indians
Shouldn't you be happy?
Indians don't use toilets so you have less toilets to clean
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>>70097273
>Indians don't use toilets so you have less toilets to clean

pajeet bringing the heat
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>>70087525
I heard 3rd cousin is the perfect genetic distance for health of offspring, so i'd say somewhere around there. Maybe 2nd max.
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>>70097148
>you can't take the risk

then don't have any kids at all because it's hardly higher risk than normal. Often the same as having kids over 35 and not nearly as bad as racemixing. And yet it's more taboo.

You stated a simple correlation is causation that is ridiculous. Countries are shit due to a myriad of factors, and consanguinity isn't even prevalent enough to be a significant factor if it is a factor at all.

helping them out with what? "learn so much" "underage" what the fuck are you talking about and why is it relevant? Again welcome to 4chan and "do it faggot"

>that's a cheap cop out

no it isn't. you're claim is retarded incest wouldn't be the straw that broke the camels back (and it's already broken)

the science you hail so much proves that birth defects are more likely to happen if it happens with a relative

Yes. and that it's not significant like people think. No one has any qualms about having kids at 40, and the whole free love shit happened decades ago. the risk is a meme. the truth is that it's not and shouldn't be the main deterrent to incestuous relationships. If anything it encourages them so long as they don't have kids.

>the fact is

so now you are playing psychologist?

Are you the product of multiple generations of incest? because based on your IQ I wouldn't be surprised.
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>>70097984
my parents are 3rd cousins
i dont have any genetic anomaly
apart from being flip and a manlet

seriously speaking though, 3rd cousin is most likely okay.
however, i have an aunt saying god is punishing my parents for marrying because they are now separated.
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>>70097273
what toilets, they'd have to clean the designated shitting streets
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>>70098107
>then don't have any kids at all because it's hardly higher risk than normal.
but then you're partaking in the culture of destruction of the family unit and degenerate culture or pushing the boundaries in the name of appeals to novelty

>helping them out with what? "learn so much" "underage" what the fuck are you talking about and why is it relevant? Again welcome to 4chan and "do it faggot"

you have no sense of family yourself, you don't give a shit about your own family members it seems

>Yes. and that it's not significant like people think.

it is significant, so significant that it's easy to spot the kids of parents that are blood relatives

>no it isn't. you're claim is retarded incest wouldn't be the straw that broke the camels back (and it's already broken)

it's mostly about individuals maximizing their chances of spreading good offsprings, not retarded offsprings
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>>70098260
Isn't short height a trait of all asians tho?

>>70098453
Designated Shitting Streets have modern day, high-tech mechanisms to absorb all the shit that is on it and to convert it into biogas
How do you think people are able to drive on streets if its filled with shit?
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>>70098260
>seriously speaking though, 3rd cousin is most likely okay.
Yeah, like I said I actually have read that it's the healthiest. As you know Iceland is a small island with a very genetically close and small population. So curious geneticists I guess were concerned with how much genetic relation is too much? They found that 3rd generation cousins were the most fertile match I believe.

So you're probably fine, and even stronger for it even. There's actually some arguments against race mixing from the view that you lose the guaranteed strengths of either race. Immune system being a common example.

That's a nasty comment from your aunt, lol
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>>70098504


>it is significant, so significant that it's easy to spot the kids of parents that are blood relatives

Facts disagree. You might be able to tell if the parents are related if they look alike, but not from the child. All children look like their parents, usually emphasizing one side.


>it's mostly about individuals maximizing their chances of spreading good offsprings, not retarded offsprings

Oh you're playing eugenicist. Then all the beautiful people should be breeding 3rd cousins to preserve genes. Or just a closer member to make sure you get good genes.
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>>70099126
>Facts disagree. You might be able to tell if the parents are related if they look alike, but not from the child. All children look like their parents, usually emphasizing one side.
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you are deliberately being obtuse or what

it is more likely to end up with a baby with problems with a blood relative

the chances that you end up with a retard baby is more likely with a blood relative

what do you not understand with this? it's a question of statistics and probability

>Oh you're playing eugenicist. Then all the beautiful people should be breeding 3rd cousins to preserve genes. Or just a closer member to make sure you get good genes.

if you end up with a retarded child who are you going to blame?
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Second cousins have been considered permissable. In Western history, the Church has considered this the dividing lines (at some points they wouls require one level of seperation more, and at other points they permitted first cousin marriages brodly speaking. Royals generally were able to always get exceptions.)

But, planning marriages requires a balance between endogamous and exogamous considerations. Second cousin marriage over and over again will lead to genetic challenges. But, of post modern society that still supposedly values marriage, virtually to a man this means the romantic vision of marriage.

Prior to the collapse in patriarchy, there was still among many an apprecition for the fact that marriage is a solemn union to raise children. Hoi polloi married for feelings, and on the opposite end of the spectrum social powers always thought it out very carefully.

Ultimately, injecting 3rd cousin marriages every so often is all things equal a smart way to build up a family position. The public scorn given to it by the average American is just one more odd iteration of our Calvinist/puritanical history. But again, cousin marriages done generation after generation gives rise to illnesses and, in some tribes, serious problems (cf Aboriginals and various Arabic subsets.)
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>>70098546
>Isn't short height a trait of all asians tho?
yep. sorry my joke isnt too funny for you
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>>70087525
Back home 4th cousin marrying is legal.
4th seems the right line to me.
I couldn't think to fuck a 1st cousin. Some 2nd cousins I'd like to fuck, but I stop the thought the second I remember our parents are 1st cousins.
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If we are speaking just about genetics and not making potatoes, 2nd cousins are fine. If it weren't for family reunions, you would never see or even know them.

My second cousins in FL are hot tho...
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Is this satire? back to /b/ virgin fuckers
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