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Benevolent authoritarianism, pragmatism, meritocracy, government
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Benevolent authoritarianism, pragmatism, meritocracy, government regulated corporatism and stringent anti-corruption practices are what makes a country flourish.

Of course the only way to ruin every single one of the abovementioned things are human factors like gluttony, pride, envy and lust.

Personal gain through unlawful and immoral means has always been the downfall of civilizations.
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>>70073285

What is the best way to change the morality of a population?
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>>70073644
Corporal punishment?
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It's the course of empire anon. If a nation is too strong to be conquered from without, it will inevitably degrade from with, die, and be reborn as another nation with another set of values and principles.

That's why revolutions are what they are: just another rotation in a constant cycle.
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>>70073782
>Physical Punishment
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>meritocratic
>Chinese flee here because they say Malaysian and Singaporean education system is biased against them
Yeah, okay

A true meritocracy can't be biased positively or negatively for or against any demographic, the second it does it's not meritocratic.
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>>70073644

The same way Hitler did; Constant propaganda, make useless dissidents disappear and raise nationalism and zero tolerance for corruption.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be opposition, but it should be done within the government and for both independent and other ministries to audit each other to check for discrepancies and ill-practices.

A dialogue should be open to the public as well as long as it is constructive criticism with a solution that the government think tank can research about.
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>>70073285
Benevolent authoritarianism is a contradiction in terms. Power corrupts, and governments need to have as little of it as possible.
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>>70073285
>authoritarian
>anti-corruption
Pick one
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>>70076085
>>70076145

How about a highly centralized government run by an A.I?
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>>70076239
yeah sure lets literally build Skynet
what could possibly go wrong
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>>70076085

I agree with you, however there's a difference between a leader with everyone's interests at heart and what's best for the country.

Personal agenda has to be kept at a minimum.

Just look at Lee Kuan Yew and Gaddafi.
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>>70075908
b-but then the screaming low IQ mobs won't be able to influence things with their implicit threats of violence and disorder. I mean, they can't actually contribute rational ideas and solutions. You're taking away the only thing they have to offer. That's unfair!
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>>70075823
how could the Singaporean education system be biased against Chinese? Chinese are supreme in Singapore.
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>>70077747
It's run by Muslim Malays.
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>>70076852
The nation needs to be able to survive and recover from a leader who is not merely incompetent but actively malevolent. Because such people will, sooner or later, come to power. There's no way to stop it. You have to pick the leader somehow. People can be easily led astray by some guy who talks big and tells them what they what they want to hear. Those people can be the electorate in a democracy, or the central party committee or what have you in an authoritarian state. Or some guy who once was benevolent can be corrupted by vanity and hubris and yes-men. If you rotate people in and out of power to avoid that, you have that many more chances that you'll make a mistake, and run into a ruthless careerist out for himself.

and once someone like that has power, its disastrous to the nation. The only solution is not to have an authoritarian government - have a government with few powers, so that someone evil who manages to take the reins can't do much.
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>>70077887

>Cuckstralian education
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>>70077887
really? I thought Malays were cucked in Singapore. I know in Malaysia chinks are second class citizens though.
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>>70078151

He has no idea what he's babbling about.
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>>70077998
>the only way is to have a government like the early American republic

The Singaporean model, and as emulated by Deng Xiaoping in China is working. It has other forms of checks and balances. The party system actually has similarities to the NSDAP but with anti-revisionist Marxian concepts thrown in. The hierarchy and succession is highly ordered, and the group keeps the individual party elite in check because everyone is vying for power. You will note, China is the only advanced nation that has EXECUTED corrupt bureaucrats and businessmen.

If their system is so bad, then you won't have to do anything, and it will collapse on its own. I think people will be waiting around 200 years from now claiming the system will fall apart any day now. Of course Americans are more likely to try to actively subvert and destroy illiberal political systems, no matter how much prosperity they bring rather than follow their own claim and let said system collapse under its own non-viability.
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>>70078770
The point is they have to bat 1.000. They have to ensure that they get every single corrupt senior party member, and ensure that they never, ever pick a bad apple. Because if they let a single one through, it's game over, because all of a sudden a corrupt leader has the power to execute rivals. For corruption, ironically.

Will it fall apart tomorrow? Probably not. Will it fall apart someday? You bet, because no government can stay perfect forever. Out of all those people vying for power, one of them is going to win. Can you guarantee it will always, 100% of the time, be a pure and incorruptible person? Nope. And when a bad dictator does topple a nation over, it ain't pretty. Look at Venezuela or Zimbabwe.
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>>70079276
The memory of the Cultural Revolution will have to wear off before any Chinese faction is willing to mass mobilize to try to crab national power again. Frankly, I think the American concept of checks and balances gives a false sense of security. Our system seemed thrive in an effectively monocultural consensus, and it's cracking under our new population. China has the benefit of homogeneity and high average IQ. These things are going to prove more deterministic than the particular political philosophy a state decides to officialize.
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>>70079721
>>The memory of the Cultural Revolution will have to wear off before any Chinese faction is willing to mass mobilize to try to crab national power again.
It only took 60 years from the founding of the Soviet Union until the decay of the Brezhnev era in the 70s. Hell, they didn't need any mass mobilization, just internal politics among the folks at the top.
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>>70080071
China is working a hell of a lot better than the Soviet Union. The people don't WANT change. They want stability, and the complete their infrastructure plans. Yes, one day people may change their minds, but right now there is almost no appetite for political change, any more than there is in Singapore--as if restructuring the political system will ever have much effect on anything anyway. They don't put as much faith in theory as westerners do.
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>>70076239
lol the robot to the right is checkin out thos titties


how can humans even compete?
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>>70078770
>defending a system that doesn't even provide basic liberties to it's people, and enslaves them to the state

Wew
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>>70073285
The only thing China is missing from this is anti-corruption.

4/5

But China is shit. Your state is shit.
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>>70081122

>Your state is shit

>posting from Obama's America, soon to be Hillary's America.
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>>70080898
>Yes, one day people may change their minds, but right now there is almost no appetite for political change
They'll change their minds if (when) China's economy tanks. The whole bargain the Communist Party makes is that the people give up political rights in exchange for development and a rising standard of living. Once that stops, the Party's in trouble. They're already having to put down brushfires of labor unrest. You'll be exactly right until suddenly you aren't.
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>>70073644
Islam
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>>70081024
The Singapore model combines high economic freedom (higher than in the west), with strict social controls. The reason so many westerners, including jewish intellectuals hate it so much is because it contradicts basic models and assumptions about freedom that see social and economic liberty as inextricably linked. You're going to have to get used to the fact that liberal democracy is a cultural apparition of the west, and not a universal principal of humanity. I defend any system that works. And different peoples thrive under different systems.
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>>70081122

No niggers here though.
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>>70081024

>muh freedumbs

The government doesn't arrest people for spreading political dissent.
Instead they make all these salty individuals go into bankruptcy by giving them a lawsuit for libel and defamation.

Inciting racial and religious hatred is considered sedition as racial and religious harmony is the only weak point in the system which may ultimately be its downfall.

Note that criticism and discussion of sensitive issues like race and religion are only brought forward by the Members of Parliament and the weekly religious forum chaired by the figurehead of the major religions in Singapore.

Of course these are kept in check by our secretive secret police, this ISD. Their AI to check the internet,texts and phonecalls are said to be one of the most advanced in the world with collaboration from ST Kinetics, an Israeli firm and a Japanese firm.
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>>70082752
>assumptions about freedom that see social and economic liberty as inextricably linked.
Libertarians are especially annoying with this assumption.
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