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Looks to be shaping up to be a big night for Cruz. In all likelihood he wins Wisconsin and can move forward from there.

No shitposting pls
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It's going to be a shutout. Trump won't even win one district.
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Shut the fuck up you rat worshipping scum
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>>70050785
No good Memes, Low Energy. Sad.
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>>70050974
coordinating shilling. the voting is winding down, why waste your time? anybody that was going to vote today already has. got nothing better to do reddit?
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>>70050785
Fuck off, Ratfucker.
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>>70051240
Posting a fact that makes you mad doesn't make someone a shill you fucking faggot.
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>>70050785
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>>70051240
>s-shill
Really wish you Redditors would fuck off
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>>70051388
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TRUMP BTFO
POL BTFO
POL ON SUICIDE WATCH
ANIME MASTURBATING HITS ALL TIME LOW IN AMERICA
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This is my thread now, faggots.
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shills btfo all the way to reddit
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what happened fags? where did those shills go?
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>>70050785
nice thread.
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>>70050785
Serious question for the Cruz supporters: What do you expect to happen by voting for Cruz? I really don't get it. He cannot get enough delegates to get the nomination, even if he overperforms in every single state from now on. The gop definitely won't nominate him at the inevitable brokered convention either.

What plan does Cruz have to become the republican nominee? He is the self-procclaimed anti-establishment choice and yet his only chance is to somehow be nominated by the establishment at a brokered convention? And you Cruz supporters are perfectly fine with that?
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https://youtu.be/9sFWWCfjP1U\

>Reddit btfo
>bernbots btfo
>cruzmissle shills btfo
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>>70051748
You should learn how Sage works, so you don't keep bumping my thread. Always happy to help out newfriends from Reddit to navigate 4chan :^)

Also, Atheists BTFO

https://youtu.be/Trwo-rA16KM?t=10m
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>>70051866
they're not cruz supporters, dipshit. they're shilling. probably hilldog or bernbots. they organize these raids on reddit
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>>70050785
I think Cruz has a very good shot at securing the nomination. It looks like things are starting to fall apart for Trump, this is pretty good news for the republican party and america generally.
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>>70051938
why? to save you embarrassment?

reddit commies btfo
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>>70051866
Things don't exist in a vacuum, Hans. When I voted back on Super Tuesday the idea of a contested convention wasn't even on the table.

So I guess I don't really understand your question. "Why vote if he's not going to get enough delegates?" Silly question. Ask Trump supporters that question too, since it looks like he won't make 1237 either.
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>>70050785

His next big test after cleaning up in Wisc. is New York. If we can peel that one off it's over for fucking Stump.
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>>70051866
There is a very good chance the establishment will be forced to back him at a brokered convention to reduce the damage of replacing trump.
It is pretty ironic that the establishment despises him when he is the only true conservative running.
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>>70052159
>cruz having chance in NY

now that's quality bait
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>>70051866
It's called momentum. Once Cruz seals the deal tonight, suddenly Pennsylvania and New York are in play. California is in play. Cruz has a path to the nomination, and if Trump keeps footbulleting it might just be a cakewalk.
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>>70052008
This isn't Reddit, newfriend. I know it's different, but people can support various candidates here without being downvoted :^)
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>>70051866
Cruz is "controlled opposition;" a good goy who will do as he is told by the people who really run things. He has his role to play (blocking Trump), and I'm sure he will be rewarded for it.
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>>70050785

Why are we even talking about this literal nobody?
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>>70051748
Does this man have any clothes that fit properly?
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>>70052228

No reputable polling there so who know. It is a long shot but you never know what a devastating loss in another state can do. Plus you can bet the #NeverTrump forces will swarm the state over the next two weeks.
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>>70050974
Don't know about this, although I fervently hope so. Earlier today on CNN they showed a packed call center gong at one of the three Democratic districts Trump in which Trump was doing well. Ted probably got the benefit of Walker's organization, with time enough to use it.
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>>70052234
I think NY is pretty much out of the question. I actually wish it was Winner take all, because I bet Kasich will get more delegates out of it than Cruz.

>>70052361
>controlled opposition
That's funny, considering how people were trying to sink his campaign from the get go (before Trump even announced). Hell, his supporters like Graham are there only for "not Trump"
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>>70052361
>it's Cruz who is controlled opposition, rite guys?
>g-guys?
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Can't bruise the cruz
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Die el rato.
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Post favorite Cruz moments. Him blowing the fuck out of that leftist dyle Page was pretty great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu1lsw3_Kfo

>ib4 trumpettes talk about boogers like 4 year olds
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>>70052234
Are you serious? Trump is at like +50 in NY and +15 in California. Cruz has no path to the nomination left on the first ballot. Getting 80% of the remaining delegates is literally impossible for him.
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>>70052802
Almost no one has a path on the first ballot. If Cruz does as well as expected, Trump's odds drop to 30%.

So I guess we all should stay home?
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>>70052171
>It is pretty ironic that the establishment despises him when he is the only true conservative running.

Yeah, the establishment despises Cruz so much legendary anti-establishment rebels like Bush, Romney, Ryan, Graham and Nikki Pooinloo are backing him.
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>>70052802

Not so, two recent polls have Trump and Cruz dead even in California. One was by the LATimes, which should know what it's doing there.
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>>70053266
>backing him.
That "support" will drop right at the convention if Trump doesn't win 1237. They literally care only about siphoning votes from Trump, and they sure won't be giving it to Cruz.
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>>70051866
>Serious question for the Cruz supporters: What do you expect to happen by voting for Cruz?
A Cruz presidency.

>What plan does Cruz have to become the republican nominee? He is the self-procclaimed anti-establishment choice and yet his only chance is to somehow be nominated by the establishment at a brokered convention? And you Cruz supporters are perfectly fine with that?
It's not so much a plan going forward, but a plan put into action many months ago only now paying off. By being the candidate to not go negative, in becoming a candidate with broad support among Republican primary voters, through scoring victories showing strength beyond a limited niche, and outside of a small region and in outlasting all other challengers Ted has positioned himself to be the ONLY candidate behind which the party can hope to unify, by which...
>He is the self-procclaimed anti-establishment choice and yet his only chance is to somehow be nominated by the establishment at a brokered convention?
...becomes inevitable. He effectively represents simultaneously the outsider lane which has 80% approval, and is Republican enough for the establishment to realize he wouldn't inflict damage on statewide races, and doesn't have such horrible negatives that it guarantees a loss.
>And you Cruz supporters are perfectly fine with that?
This is called winning.
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>>70053955
>>70053718
>>70052986
>>70052606
samefag shill how much are you paid
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>>70052797
I just love how Cruz engages people who come up to him as an opponent and talks them off their ledge until they walk away in his corner, or at least feeling utterly defeated and unsuited to carry on a debate with him as Page was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6cUDscjrNg
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>>70051748
really strong chrischan vibes from this pic
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>>70052986
I'm just asking you for your reasoning behind voting for the "anti establishment" guy when the only thing it does is help the gop nominate Paul Ryan or Kasich at the brokered convention. I mean, if your reasoning is "anyone but Trump", then I can at least see how this plan makes sense, but unironically supporting Cruz, thinking he actually has a chance of getting the nomination seems utterly retarded.
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Um, you "cruzmissiles" do realize under no circumstances that could ever be concocted by even the craftiest political strategist does Ted Cruz get elected President.

His likeability factor is literally zero. Right now he's riding the wave of the Religious Right, who prefer him to Donald Trump merely because Cruz is a religious nut along the same lines as they are, whereas Trump isn't very convincing on the religion angle.

Religion nuts are also a perennially high percentage of primary voters.

So if Cruz does somehow fuck Donald Trump out of the Republican nomination, the Republican Party is fucked. Trump's people will leave in droves. Hillary will win the Presidency in an unprecedented landslide. And Cruz will end up comfortably back in the Senate cockblocking much-needed legislation.

So I guess my question is, why are you doing it? It's not helping anyone in the conservative camp, and there's no possible scenario that ends with your guy becoming President. It's mind-boggling.
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>>70053266
>when Trump secures the endorsement of an establishment figure, this shows he is crushing them and forcing him into his corner, showing how much of an alpha dog he is

>when Cruz secures the endorsement of an establishment figure, this shows he is a part of the establishment and that you can't trust him

Trumpfags, everybody
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>>70055886
>Cruz can't win in spite of the fact that Cruz wins in matchup polls, so lets support Trump, who keeps losing them by larger margins because I WANT TO BELIEVE
Well, then, I guess Hillary really is inevitable.
>dumbass
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>>70055886

Wat makes you think Stump can beat Hillary? I real winner would have put the nomination fight away a month ago. HE KEEPS FUCKING UP. Hillary will destroy him. Cruz is smart, he has a shot.
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>>70055440
I'm not voting for Cruz because he's "anti-establishment." In fact, that word has been thrown around so much this cycle that its become meaningless.

I like Cruz because of his policies, and most especially his foreign policy. He also is a, most importantly, CONSISTENT conservative. He's a strict constitutionalist, which we haven't really had in well over a century.

Hell, ideally I'd have him on the Supreme Court, but that can happen after his term as president.
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>>70050785
he still wont catch up to trump by the time this is over
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>>70051382
El Rato loves his cheese
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Cruz will win. Vote rigging is already being reported.
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>>70056238

You just don't get it. Trump's power level is still an unknown at this point.

How many Democrats do you think would vote for Cruz? None. Zip. Nada. Ted Cruz has got nothing that appeals to any Democrat on any level. He's conservative, religious, "establishment," and let's be honest - hard to look at.

On the other hand, how many Democrats do you think might vote for Trump?

Well, first of all you've got the closet misogynists, who would greatly prefer to vote for an alpha male over Hillary Clinton, no matter the male's politics (and no, Cruz doesn't qualify as alpha, he's an omega).

Secondly you've got the Berntards - Trump will get a shocking number of those guys, because they're anti-Establishment voters. Many of them have even been posting on /pol/ about how they'll be joining us on the Trump Train if and when Bernie gets knocked out.

Third, you've got the Democrats who are big immigration voters, or terrorist-fear voters. They'll see the clear advantage of Trump over Hillary in both those arenas.

So Trump stands a chance - a GREAT chance - of beating Hillary, with the Republican vote and a big chunk of Democrats who would never vote for a traditional Republican arch-conservative, but know full well that is not what Trump represents.

Your polls are meaningless. The general election hasn't even started yet. Do you know how much ammo the GOP is saving up to fire at Hillary? The list of skeletons in her closet is enough to fill a good-sized cemetery. The e-mails, Benghazi, Vince Foster, Troopergate, Whitewater, on, and on, and on, and on. Hell, Hillary can be implicated as complicit in several MURDERS. She's un-electable, the only people who don't know that are her and her drugged out constituents.

Anyway, good luck to you. With your life, I mean, not with the election. No amount of luck can help a sniveling, lying, rat-faced backstabber like Ted Cruz.
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>>70051866
He's good at debating and can actually come up with good one liners against Shillary in the debates. His life story about escaping communism and working his way up will also resonate with people. I bet he's going to wreck her at the debates without coming off as a bully like Trump would.
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>>70050785
It will be funny when Cruz gets disqualified after getting the nomination because he isn't an American.
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>>70057127
He flip flopped on amnesty cause he's a canacuck anchor baby who is a lying senator
>what happened the last time we elected a smooth talking senator
Oh wait he was a fucking nigger, just like El rato
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Wow, a cow made of butter!
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>average Cruz supporter
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HOLY SHIT

Cruz takes the lead in Ruetrs/Ipsos national poll for first time.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/04/05/shock-ted-cruz-takes-reuters-poll-lead-1st-time/
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>>70057127
>I'm not voting for Cruz because he's "anti-establishment."
>Thinking Cruz is anti-establishment
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Bye
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>>70057410
>You just don't get it. Trump's power level is still an unknown at this point.
Don't give me that bullshit. Substituting your own feelings for the voting patterns of huge swaths of people. Trump has built up higher negatives in a year than it took an entire career crime spree for Hillary Clinton to wrack up. He's given practically no specific policy, and at this point o the election has a marginal plurality only of primary voters, most of that lead owing to cross-over votes, who are not representative of those people in the general election that tend to reliably vote Republican. Trump is the weakest front runner the Republicans have had in generations, because he's simply unelectable.

He is NOT going to win as your strategy has him doing with Democratic cast offs. That's fucking stupid. Not just in the supposition that there are huge numbers willing to do so, but that it would even be desirable to shift the politics of the nation that incredibly far left, because the plans for your "takeover" starts from the premise of ignoring, insulting, the traditional Republican base. Your proposal is that it's possible to win through division and subtraction, which is the recipe for cucking the right for generations. The DNC's most optimistic strategists couldn't come up with a better plan for their takeover of American politics.

Everything else in your post is you steadfastly sticking your head in the sand and ignoring every piece of information that comes your way favorable to Ted Cruz's case, or supposing that Trump is the only person in the race who can take advantage of a weak Democratic opponent, showing your inability to see beyond your blinding partisanship.
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>>70058071
>le establishment boogeyman
As I've said, that word has lost all meaning, but considering it's well known that Washington doesn't get along with Cruz (interestingly, this was one of Trump's criticism levied against him).

But keep on using that boogeyman buddy.
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>>70050785
>No shitposting pls
fuck off cuck
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Looks like Cruz wins handedly. Livestream for victory speech

http://abcnews.go.com/live?stream=1
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>tfw ted cruz gets the NFA removed
>tfw mp5 as a bed stand gun
>tfw select fire micro uzi in my glove box
>tfw m79 grenade launcher part of my EDC
>tfw kill home invader with 120 mm canon


i want to live in an america where cruz is my leader with a vice president of rand paul
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>>70059787
>Paul VP
pls no
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El Ratto won the cheese state.
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Cruz 45%, Trump 35%, Dr. Seuss 12%
>MAGA BTFO
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>>70059773
>Livestream for victory speech
I'd like to see him give a good one for once, not a rebrand of his stump speech.
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>>70060979
It's looking like Cruz can even hit 50%. Will be incredible if that happens.
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>>70061496
>It's looking like Cruz can even hit 50%. Will be incredible if that happens
He's at 47 percent now. 50 would be great!
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This meltdown is delicious. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think I might enjoy /pol/'s reaction when Trump loses than even Reddit's when Sanders loses.
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>I know! I'll go to a battleground state and insult a popular governor in his home state because he didn't endorse me
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Walker's on stage, speech about to start
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This margin is fucking huge!
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>>70063054

It wouldn't have mattered.

Wisconsin is cuck central.

You realize who the majority of Waukesha country residence are?

Wealthy boomers who want to protect their money and investments while selling out the youths future.

"Making america great again" goes completely against their interests. They want to turn america into a slave camp where anyone under the age of 50 works for bowls of rice.

The white boomers put their own white kids in the same slave factories that the niggers work in.

That's how sick wisconsin is at the moment. Don't expect things to change until the boomers here are too sick and old, or dead.
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>>70064563
you're never going to get far in life with that attitude son
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>>70064795
That's right, sonny. Respect your elders! They know best. :^)
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>>70050785
Cruz will lose to Bernie in the general.

The media has gone easy on Cruz since they have focused on Trump. However, if Cruz got the nomination, the media would play all those Glenn Beck religious cult videos and the majority of Americans would be turned off.
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>>70052015
>Flag

AUSTRALIA YES
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>>70064795

Boomers here are cancer... the only thing a coherent young person in Wisconsin can do is save their money and move out.

Let the boomers fight off the hordes of niggers on their death beds.

Milwaukee is spreading outward and most of the outside satellite white neighborhoods are now being compromised.

Another 5 to 10 years and the majority of milwaukee county will be a no go zone.

If they won't elite trump, i'm voting for hillary. Another democrat will do them in.
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>>70065488
Nobody will give a shit who endorsed Cruz half a year prior, and it is never a negative for a candidate to have religious appeal. Even the Democrat (Sanders? still not seeing it) will try to appeal with religious sentiment.
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>>70065488
>Cruz will lose to Bernie in the general.
He won't make it anyway
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>>70050785
>/cruz/ general

I AM CRUZ MISSILE NOW
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>>70066460
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>>70067275

>t. Shill
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>there are people ITT right now who aren't #CruzMissles
If one of the things you liked about Trump is he made libbutts asshurt then Cruz does a better job at it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmI6JQz2M10&ab_channel=JimmyKimmelLive

Look at this video, one of his only talkshow appearances and just look at the dislikes and hate in the comments for him. He truly triggers libcucks and he doesn't even have to say anything controversial or beg for attention like Trump
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>>70050785
https://twitter.com/WDFx2EU/status/716106410245771264

Listen to how he manipulates by using logical fallacies in this interview. He's a master of abusing language to confuse stupid people.
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>>70050785
>forward

How Progressive...

No wonder Glenn Beck likes him.
They're fellow travelers.
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>>70050785
>big night
Ahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahah 25 delegates
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>>70051866
Hillary can beat Cruz.
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S U I C I D E

W A T C H
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Cruz has fine policies but his talking is so fucking annoying. It's so rehearsed.
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Oded Yinon friends

we can make this happen.
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>>70050785
How the fuck did Rato catch up so fast? Wasn't Trump leading yesterday?
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FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING KEK RAT YOU DIRTY RAT FUCK YOU YOU SLIMEY SHIT YOU LYING SHIT LYIN TED LYIN RATO GO EAT SOME CHEEESSE GO EAT SOME CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE YOU RAT
YOU RAT FUCK
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>>70068163
If you paid the least bit of attention to a poll from one outlet that's blown several races badly this election cycle, ARG.
>Cruz will win Texas by only 1pt
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>>70068163
You know how drafting works in things like NASCAR? That's literally been what Cruz has been doing for the past 7 months
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smug
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>oy gevalt
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>>70069521
>five figures
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>>70069521
>small individual donations
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>>70069738
>>70069682
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>>70069521
>only two 'big' contributors are ideological-based, not representative of corporate interests
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>>70052630

Cruz has the same donors as Clinton, retard.And Cruzcucks are on record as preferring Hillary to Trump.
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>>70070177

Nice meme, Drumpfer
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>>70069921
And guess what, he'd be campaigning with roughly the same rhetoric for the general.
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>>70070387

I'm sorry my meme is better than yours.The benefit of having facts on my side.
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>>70050785

>2% reporting

Piss off rato, shove your "brokered convention" up your ass.
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>>70069978
>Not corporate interests
You mean it's mafia interests, right?
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"I'm having a hard time containing my hatred for the Canadian corporate connected Rato, who needs to pay his fair share."
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>>70070707
Stay mad, cuck :^)
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booger general?
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But guys, he's going to take the fight to the D.C. establishment.
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>>70071485
This is why we need Sanders.
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>>70071485
>australia
Not even once
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>>70069682
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>>70068394
>>70066187
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>>70056275
>>70056009
>>70055006
>>70053955
>>70052606

CAN YOU AT LEAST TRY TO SHILL WELL BEN SHAPIRO INSTEAD OF BEING A COMPLETE AND UTTER KIKE NIGGER FAGGOT BOOGER BOI LUVER?
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>>70073171
Back to r/thedonald with you, Mr. Redditor :^)
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>>70072753
So it isn't concerning that Cruz takes more money from Wall Street than Hillary and Hillary has destabilized Syria at the behest of Soros? If Hillary has done that for political "donations" then what might Cruz do?
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>>70073248
why did u take a pic of yourself?
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>>70073586
you have to go back
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>>70073171
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>>70051938
>the likeness was so bad they had to write the guy's name on his shirt
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>>70073403
Things that aren't true aren't concerning, no.
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>>70073171
A FUCKING LEAF
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When Bernie wins Ted wins so bad at math and Polygamist states go to Ted.
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>>70052159
sauce me up fa m
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>>70075060
you have to go back rebbit
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>>70075731
Right faggot.
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>>70050974
He won one district so far CNN also believes two others are possible.
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so how big of hypocrite does cruz look like when he will need over %100 of the remaining delegates after April 26?
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>>70051211
can i have a pair of your panties, natalia?
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>>70075007

oh can't watch it... noooo

Trump exposed that dirty fucker for what he is.
Robo call lies and the rest.

it's a fuckin cheater - from canuckia - just dumped his foreign citizenship he's a fuckin rule breakin criminal foreigner fuckin traitor
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>>70075979
Are there more videos of shit like this?
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Why are Trumpettes such autistic crybabies?
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>>70076963
>that epic butthurt
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I'm not well informed but for what I saw on the debates Cruz seems like a decent candidate.
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>>70077463
He is. If you told /pol/ 1 year ago that Cruz would be in the final 3 candidates for the GOP most people here would have creamed themselves. Only person they'd like more is Paul, mainly because of how assravaged Cruz makes leftists.

Of course, that was before Trump happened and /pol/ was hijacked by redditors
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>>70077463
Here's the best evidence: Trump says he won all the debates, but now that there aren't any more realistic candidates left in the field, he's staying as far away as possible from debating Cruz.

Hillary won't have such an excuse to hide; she'll get clocked in a debate three times per the agreed to schedule.
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What happened to the so-called "sex scandal"?

What happened to the so-called DC madam "scandal"?

All lies, all filthy lies from Trump and his henchmen.
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>>70078814
His supporters cannot think in anything but memes. Of course they'll fall for some shit in the National Enquirer.

They're literally dumber than housewives
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>>70078814
>>70079177
Hi Ted, it's Polly from Luigi's Sex Club 7.
Would you care for the testicle hot wax dripping tonight or the large purple strap-on?
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>unironically supportig Cruz
Wew lad. I knew this board was pretty dumb, but this is a new low
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>>70079329
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>>70080817
>This post will show them for sure, guys!
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>>70080817

Poor Cruzbots are forced to steal Trump memes because they don't have much of a following to create their own.SAD!
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>>70078694

>Here's the best evidence: Trump says he won all the debates, but now that there aren't any more realistic candidates left in the field, he's staying as far away as possible from debating Cruz.

Bitch, please.

Trump forced Cruz to back down and clap for him like a schoolgirl during the debates.

>You better not attack, bitch.
>Yes, master tehehe

>Trump is a NY liberal
>Let me tell you about NY Canadian faggot
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>>70081723
Cruz absolutely won that battle, dude, and still is. The ground over which they were fighting at the time was Iowa, which Cruz won. Ted's line of attack has stuck enabling him to grab those voters of candidate that drop, while Trump's birther attack only really has any play within the base he currently has.

>judging political stratagems on their mic drop value

And really, if Trump were so great at debate as you here maintain, they why is he ducking all of Cruz's challenges? He should want to debate every week, if your characterization were at all accurate.
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>>70082362
>Cruz absolutely won that battle, dude, and still is. The ground over which they were fighting at the time was Iowa, which Cruz won

Cruz had the superior ground game.Trump was shit.He even admitted that.There were many articles about that and that the campaign asked Trump to spend some money on ground troups but Trump refused.


>Ted's line of attack has stuck enabling him to grab those voters of candidate that drop, while Trump's birther attack only really has any play within the base he currently has.

Not really.Probably helped Trump with the independents and crossover dems he always wins.He even beat Cruz with evangelicals in a couple of states.Definitely not part of Ratto's plan.

>And really, if Trump were so great at debate as you here maintain, they why is he ducking all of Cruz's challenges? He should want to debate every week, if your characterization were at all accurate

The worst debate Trump ever had was the one Rubio and Cruz teamed up against him but it only led to Rubio's own demise.Otherwise even hardcore liberals that hate Trump like TYT said that Trump won most of the debates and every exchange with Cruz.

But the reason he doesn't want to do them anymore is because right now he needs to be more presidential.And he can't help himself but enter a shit flinging contest with Cruz.
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>>70084057
>Iowa, Trump had a poor ground game, etc
The dated lie behind that meme has long been put to rest by anyone paying attention. Trump is weak in caucus states generally, because he doesn't play nearly as well in a purely Republican setting.

>Probably helped Trump with the independents and crossover dems he always wins
Far more likely these are being pulled in for the 'inoffensive' nature of Trump's 'moderate' positions, or (in the case of low information independents) for the perception that Trump is the most outsider, in that he doesn't hold elected office.

>The worst debate Trump ever had was the one Rubio and Cruz teamed up against him but it only led to Rubio's own demise
Nah. His worst was the boring policy heavy debate, because there were no distractions to mask weaknesses in philosophy.

>Otherwise even hardcore liberals
Hardly the best judges
>that hate Trump like TYT said that Trump won most of the debates and every exchange with Cruz.
Trump's goal early on was a stop-loss strategy, to say things in keeping with holding his own base, which at the time was solid enough to give him those winning margins in the state he won. Only, by keeping to such a game plan, he failed to improve his skills at effective counters (his insults aren't enough, and damage himself in the process), at articulation to promote his policies with better clarity and at the discipline needed to rise to the occasion of his front-runner status.

He hasn't honed his debate skill such that people should expect him to do well against Hillary; he's coasted on his leads, which are now evaporating.

>But the reason he doesn't want to do them anymore is because right now he needs to be more presidential.And he can't help himself but enter a shit flinging contest with Cruz.
Candidates who are presidential are eager to showcase skills that will be highly critical to the upcoming race (like Cruz wants to). Yet as you acknowledge, Trump can't rise above his own nature.
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>>70085466
>The dated lie behind that meme has long been put to rest by anyone paying attention.

How is it a lie when it's well documented?


>Trump is weak in caucus states generally

Trump outperformed previous winners of Iowa caucuses.He wasn't weak there, just didn't put in enough effort to actually win.

>Far more likely these are being pulled in for the 'inoffensive' nature of Trump's 'moderate' positions, or (in the case of low information independents) for the perception that Trump is the most outsider, in that he doesn't hold elected office

Trump is the most offensive by far.

And how can anybody be "low information" when it comes to Trump?He is worldwide phenomena.Everything that involves him is ratings gold and all the news networks cover him 24/7.


>for the perception that Trump is the most outsider, in that he doesn't hold elected office

And the fact that the establishment is clearly against him instead of raising money for him.But that's just whatever.

>Nah. His worst was the boring policy heavy debate

Nah, like I said it was the handicap match and its not even close.


>Hardly the best judges

They hate Trump more than Cruz.


>He hasn't honed his debate skill such that people should expect him to do well against Hillary; he's coasted on his leads, which are now evaporating

Cruz is leading in none of the upcoming states, and Trump is at its highest nationally as he's ever been


Candidates who are presidential are eager to showcase skills that will be highly critical to the upcoming race (like Cruz wants to). Yet as you acknowledge, Trump can't rise above his own nature.

Trump knows how to debate, I know from looking up speeches he's made years ago.He doesn't want to sound like another programmed politician though.He even said that himself:

"I can read off a teleprompter, I can be the most politically correct person on the planet."

He probably also wants to get underestimated by the Clinton campaign.
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