My social studies teacher told me Greeks used to have blonde hair and blue eyes.
Ottoman turkroaches sure put a stop to that!
>>70039438
Yes and no, too much to explain, stick with no cause it affects the majority of cases.
>>70039438
HOL UP
>>70039438
ancient greeks were black
>>70039438
They breeded with varangian guard, then roaches came.
>>70039438
Did the Moors fuck the white out of the Greeks also?
>>70039805
did you know the indigenous english were black too? this is the shit you never got told about in school
>>70039438
>social studies
well there is your problem.
>>70039805
WUZ
>>70039438
I dated a Greek girl who had blonde hair and blue eyes. She was from Piraeus.
>>70040044
Anglo Saxons were Black it's scientifically proven.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwHiJg6LAzc
They were there, just uncommon, hence why the Gods were given all these rare traits like red or blond hair
>>70039438
ask her how is that possible since during that time only the ancient austronauts lived in Greece.
This is true, same for Spanish. BlondesgGot annihilated by the middle eastern muslims a while ago.
>>70039438
True.
"..during the Classical period of Greek history (650—150 BC), 27% of the Greek population had been predominantly Nordic in type. He observed that prior to the Classical period, the Nordic element had been larger, and that after it, the element in question had declined. [Angel (1943; 1944; 1945; 1946a, b, c.] Angel (1971), also noted that the immigrant Indo-Europeans, were of Nordic subrace. "
"..the aristocracies of Hellas were a product of closely interbreeding, Eupatrid clans. These clans were mostly Nordic in type, being largely descended from the Indo-European invaders. The demos, or common people however, as well as most slaves, were of Mediterranean, Pelasgian descent."
".. Greek literature which Sieglin (1935) performed, has demonstrated that many individuals in the elites of ancient Greece, had blond or red hair. For instance, Alcibiades, Alexander the Great, Critias, Demetrius of Phalerum, King Lysimachus, Ptolemy II Philadelphus and King Pyrrhus, were all fair-haired individuals. Dionysius I, the ruler of Syracuse, had blond hair and freckles, whilst the Athenian playwright Euripides, also had a fair and freckled complexion. [Günther (1956).] Some critics have attempted to claim that the Greek word “ksanthos” (xanthos), means “brown-haired”, rather than “blond-haired”. However, a recent article by Moonwomon (1994), on colour-meaning in ancient Greek, reveals that the word did in fact mean blond. "
http://www.theapricity.com/earlson/history/hellas.htm
>>70039438
Many of them still do, you retard. Barring Scandinavia, you won't find a population that is nearly 100% representative of one of Hitler's wet dreams.
There aren't even THAT many blondes in Germany. He just had a blonde fetish.
>>70040403
Top kek. Several of those sources he listed at the end were written for propaganda purposes during Nazi Germany.
>>70040403
"At the summit of its achievements, Greece possessed a large Nordic element, but as this element declined, so did Greek culture and civilisation."
>>70040670
Like the Iliad and the Odyssey..
HOLD UP HOLD UP
ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY
THAT WE WERE PHILOSOPHERS AND SHIT??
GOLLY GEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>70040815
There are still blondes in Greece, you retarded basement dweller.
>>70039438
plenty still do, try not to base your world view on /pol/ and /int/ memes about Turkification so much
>>70039438
>I'm pretty sure they do, especially mainland Greeks. Island Greeks usually look pretty dark though
>>70040932
straman fail.
>>70039438
now we see what 90% swarthy slaves does to the future of your people
>>70039438
It's also true for much of Spain and Italy. Soon Germany and Sweden blondes will go extinct to. I wonder how much blondes will be left in 500 years. Probably a couple measly millions at most if lucky.
>>70040168
kangz
>>70040368
All of southern europe.
Italy, spain, greece... all got raped to shit by muslim, arab and negro invaders.
>>70039438
If you think the original Greeks ( HELLENIC TRIBE FROM ATHENS ) were blonde or even pale you are retarded.
I am not triggered this is common knowledge ancient Greeks aka Hellens (greece is called hellas in their language) were gipsylike skin color some had brighter skin and black beards. Also Greece means todays country of Hellas+Halkidiki=Greece (before 1800s greece was south at Athens not so north they acquired the north Halkidiki territory in the balkan wars.
So no original greeks were never not in any single case blond pale or anything simmilar to indo-europian genome or slavic-nordic genome.
>>70041074
That's not a strawman. It's truth. It's like you believe that Europe was at one point some sort of Aryan Nordic paradise with nothing but a sea of blonde hair/blue eyed people. If you actually believe that, you're a retard.
>>70041511
Pic also related. Look at this blonde haired, blue eyed Nazi.
WE
WUZ
SPARTANS
>>70039438
pretty sure the distribution of light hair/eyes didn't change all that much over time
there had always been blonde greeks/romans but they were always less common in their populations than blonde nordics
you are buying into stormfront myths
>>70041511
>>70041339
>Italy
Literally only Sicily.
>>70041278
Blondes in Spain came from the invasion suffered after the fall of Roman Empire. Guess what happened after that.
>>70040211
>scientifically proven
> posts a youtube video from some retards
best bait anon
>>70041408
Just to add some more info
The old Slavic tribes that invided the balkan peninsula INCLUDING todays Greece were so huge in numbers that they settled in every single organised settlement on the balkan territory. This is why we have Slavic countries in South Europe (Croatia/Serbia/Macedonia/Bulgaria.etc.)and blue eyes in greece.
Alexander the great had brown eyes(cant find u the quote now but look it up)
BTW I bet 100% that i have more then 90% Slavic genes in me even though 3 generations back in my family is all originated in Macedonia.
To clarify even more: When the old Slavic tribes arrived in South europe it is then when the old south european tribes stoped existing because the Slavs were 5-10 times in numbers it sounds rediculus but think about it where else would all the slavic countries in south europe have originated otherwise.
>>70041874
They got shipped off to the middle east to be sex slaves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y#t=2m45s
>>70041511
> posting modern jewish propaganda
Noridicists are the biggest retards in the world they should all be gassed
>>70041874
Fuck are you on about, you think there was a special guard in the Pyrenees that stopped any blond Celt (or other European) from entering when they penetrated the Peninsula in prehistoric times?
Or is this one of those threads where we trick stupid kids into believing all kinds of rubbish to fuck up their homework assignments?
>>70042040
Yes, because the blonde/blue eyed master race allowed muslims to invade Iberia.
>>70042134
go on
>>70039438
This isn't true
Were there blond haired blue eyed greeks ?
Yes.
Were they the majority ? No.
Ancient romans for example, said that people of the balkans had a healthy mix of hair and eye color from brown to blonde.
We know also from other sources of the rules descriptions for example, that that is indeed true, and that by no means they were exclusively or majority of them were blonde and blue eyed.
example of Serbian Emperors description before ever turks came
>Contemporary writers described Dušan as unusually tall and strong, "the tallest man of his time", very handsome, and a rare leader full of dynamism, quick intelligence, and strength,[9][10] bearing "a kingly presence".[11] According to the contemporary depictions, he had dark hair and brown eyes; in adult age he grew beard and longer hair.
>>70042134
I would fuck the shit out of this whore if you know what I mean. ;)
>>70041339
Is it a meme that all moors were blacks like with the egyptians?
>>70042110
That picture is thousands of years old. There were swarthy tribes in Italy as well as fair skinned Celtic ones. They didn't have the "if it ain't blonde, I ain't fond" mentality that Stormfaggots have so they interbred over time. There were also many Celtic tribes in and around Anatolia plus Greece like the Galatians.
>>70041408
>expecting unbiased information from a Yugoslavian
kek
>>70042033
Why do the ignorant always write the most?
Slavs didn't need to outnumber the original Palaeo-Balkan peoples that much, they just needed to control the important nodes and establish military-political dominance. Then the language would spread naturally. And the job was obviously never FULLY completed, as witnessed by the Albanians, Arumanians and Greeks still being there.
>>70041511
The argument that there are no blonds wasn't made, you respond with your non sequitur defense of there being blonds still in greece.
Textbook strawman.
>>70042248
I'm talking about the most part of population you idiot. Even if these stormfags on /pol/ think we are all moor rape babies, I see blonde people everday, nothing strange. What I was pointing is the fact that the moorish invasion happened after northerner invasion.
>>70041301
AND
>Angel noted that from the earliest times to the present racial continuity in Greece is striking. Buxton who had earlier studied Greek skeletal material and measured modern Greeks, especially in Cyprus, finds that the modern Greeks possess physical characteristics not differing essentially from those of the former [ancient Greeks].
snowniggers and kikes@BTFO
>>70042460
dude we all know you are inbred. only small % of england is quality genes
ur all inbred it must hurt that you are so much inbred
you know what inbred means right?
your father fucked his sister for fuck sake
>>70042511
Read your own link thoroughly, you retard. The dumb ass that wrote that article insinuated that Ancient Greece was some Scandinavian Nordic tier paradise that decayed over time due to becoming less Nordic. That's bullshit because if anything, fair skinned Ancient Greeks descended from Celts, not "Nordic in type."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galatia
>>70042292
If you watch the video you'll learn two things, a long draining war just happened(again) with persia, and the plague killed off a third of White population. It was in this weakened state that muds attacked.
>>70039438
>Greeks used to have blonde hair and blue eyes.
used? some Greaseshits still got blonde hair and blue eyes.
They have never been a predominate blonde/blue eyed people ever.
>>70042230
>this
>>70042534
>after northerner invasion.
And the northerners headed the drive to repel the Moors, lending their onomastica to our cultural legacy, to the point when perhaps a good quarter or so of our surnames have a Gothic root.
We can't blame the Goths for what happened with Tariq and all that. It was mostly just bad luck.
>>70042485
lol what skin color do you have?
i am very pale blond hair blue eyes
what else do i need to tell you? that you suck and even though spain is big country - portugals were the real heroes in defeting muslims on most major occasions?
>>70039438
There are a lot of Blonds in Israel.
So I guess it is possible. Of course they would bring in Slaves of darker features. Not sure if slaves every took over or interbreed. I'd say lots of Dark Featured Men probably interbred some how if not under Ottomans.
>>70042570
SHIEEEEEEEET
>>70042776
The links assertion holds true, the problem is you have poor eading comprehension. decayed means reduced, not none.
>>70039438
MODS
>>70042917
It's painfully obvious she's not a natural blonde.
>>70039438
They are mixed now. That's why they used to he the pinnacle of civilization and are now a step above dindus. Same thing with Italians but not as bad.
>>70042917
oops dark roots!!
>>70042878
Silly child. Save your energy for fighting Shiptars, not fellow fucking Christians, if you're not some Turk-cuck yourself.
I have fairly dark skin and black hair. But guess what: I'm English! You don't know fuck about the reality of Europe, so shut your mouth while your elders and betters are speaking.
How you presume to talk of others' ethnic belongings when you can't even remember that you're just Bulgars is hilarious.
>>70042917
>that pic
>look blonde jew
>blonde
End yourself mutt you dont even know what a blonde looks like
Arian breed
>>70043145
oops yeah.
>>70043179
Fuck off amerinigger mongrel
See
>>70042670
>>70043049
There were no Nordic tribes that expanded or existed near Anatolia or mainland Ancient Greece, you utter fucking retard. No where outside of fringe conspiracy theory websites will ever claim that and their sources are all from Nazi propaganda.
And the Celts eventually migrated to that area, but weren't from there originally. The fair skin and hair that some Ancient Greeks had can probably be explained via interbreeding with the Galatians.
>>70039438
No you got it back words. Greeks used to be niggers, then the Brits came
>>70043299
Not bad friend :^)
>>70043246
oops.
Here.
>>70043233
>I have fairly dark skin and black hair. But guess what: I'm English!
dude stop talking you are embarasing yourself very very very much
>I have fairly dark skin and black hair. But guess what: I'm English!
>>70043299
>>70043210
>>70042917
Nobody cares stop hijacking threads you autistic kike
Why have all these cherrypicked Israeli girls got either Russian surnames or forenames, I WONDER...... :D
>>70043299
meanwhile...
>>70043320
SHOO SHOO GREEKROACH
>>70043332
You're 100% wrong. Let me guess, you're some shitskin turk who claims to be greek.
>>70043472
Do you really believe that an americuck mongrel is in a position to "banter" with everyone? Fuck off you cringy cunt
>>70039438
They did. Current Greek population needs to be 40-60% purged, cause of various untermenschen admixture. Same applies to Ukies, Hungarians, Romanians, Moldovans and Balkan inhabitans. Inb4 memes ethnic Russians are probably purest Europeans you can get. Some are corrupted with alcohol, tobacco and drug degeneracy - those shall be purged as well, not only in Russia, but worldwide in White Western Countries.
>>70043571
You are a fucking moron.
>>70043320
I've been to Greece on vacation. Some Greeks looked white but most were brown. They have been mixing since the Hellenistic age. Plus you guys were conquered by the turkroaches. You are going to tell me that had no effect on your genes? Reminds me of what Iberians claim about the moors.
If you had kept this current wave of migrants out you could have survived as a quasi-white second world country. But now you guys are totally fucked.
>>70043651
you = denial.
>>70043623
why you trying to petend being white my turk colored friend. enjoy being a mong, nothing to lose.
>>70043650
>Russians are probably purest Europeans
Russian are literally mongoloids with 50% Asiatic and caucasus sandnigger admixture
http://www.unz.com/article/what-race-were-the-greeks-and-romans/
Yes, they were Germanic until they declined about the time they started mixing. Same with Romans.
>>70041339
WE WUZ LEONARDO DA VINCI N' SHIEEET
>>70043944
>"For my own part, I agree with those who think that the tribes of Germany are free from all taint of intermarriages with foreign nations, and that they appear as a distinct, unmixed race, like none but themselves. Hence, too, the same physical peculiarities throughout so vast a population. All have fierce blue eyes, red hair, huge frames, fit only for a sudden exertion. They are less able to bear laborious work. Heat and thirst they cannot in the least endure; to cold and hunger their climate and their soil inure them."
>t. Tacitus
How come this Germanic Roman didn't recognize his own people?
>>70043246
hm... what think?
>>70043867
thats an uzbek you greekfaggot
>>70044067
Because by that point (just as now) Greeks and Romans were mixed to dirt.
>>70043432
sorry you like specific brands i'm sure.
>>70043867
Greek science, Lol, but given your country average iq you are a good monkey, you can type letters, take a banana
>>70039438
I'm italian with blonde hair and green eyes.
It's possible we got some of that viking DNA at one point or another
Its pretty easy to see by looking at their statues. They weren't squat little kebab enriched peoples
>>70044210
You mean during the height of the Roman Empire?
>>70044067
By Tacitus's time you were mixed
>>70044273
Read Annals. All Romans used to be light before the north Africans and niggers.
>>70042793
The weakened state was Rome, and the northerners took advantage of it to loot the Empire. Northerners acted like wannabe emperor niggers, but they couldn't govern shit, creating a lot of little kingdoms and fighting each other. This is what moors took advantage of.
>>70042875
Could you please stop sucking northern dick?
>And the northerners headed the drive to repel the Moors
Yes, after letting them in and of course, they took 700 years to think about the best strategy.
>>70043233
>English
I see why you can't stop sucking northern cock. Good you know where you belong to, stop spreading your cuckery here and go home.
>>70043623
Don't fall in the bait, greekbro.
In other order of things...PROSTAGMA.
>>70044360
refer to >>70044343 Jamal
>>70044343
During the fall.
>>70044077
thats a slav though. Look at her facial bone structure.
>>70044408
>northerners took advantage of it to loot the Empire.
Again, watch the video, this fallacy too was addressed.
>>70044334
Modern Greeks are taller than the average amerinigger mestizo mongrel abomination
kill yourself
>>70044476
Tacitus died in 117 AD. Troll harder negro.
>>70043867
This is the only Russian I have.
Greeks are Religious, so no images of blonds on Internet.
Does pol like Religious Women that don't hold rifles? Then post some pics
>>70044437
EISVOLI
>>70044547
>missing the point this much
Wow, nice Italy! Top meming. Your reading comprehension is great :) keep it up!
>>70044545
There are tall niggers but everyone(Whites) are taller than messicans.
>>70043867
If you were purebred European Greek you wouldn't be triggered by it. Biggest effort of Nationalism is being objective and able to critically process what wrongs your Tribe is facing. What kind of a Nationalist doesn't want to clear the filth from his Nation? Mudblood detected.
>>70044067
I'm surprised no one has suggested Celtic Tribes as Greeks and Italian and French Coastal Areas.
>>70044751
>Because by that point (just as now) Greeks and Romans were mixed to dirt.
>that point
>before 117 AD
confirmed bait or nigger
>>70040168
ATHENIANZ
>>70043728
>le conquered by turks meme!
Is this the same retardation that assumes that Germany spontaneously became Slavic after WW2?
You have done the least bit of legwork to look at where Turks ever actually bothered living in Greece(Thessaloniki area and Macedonia) before becoming an armchair expert in ethnicity, right?
Of course not.
>>70044067
Celtic maps may over lap.
>>70044867
By 117 they were already mixed to dirt. Do you have trouble with this?
Anything brown is not white. Brown hair, brown eyes, etc.
>>70045087
>During the fall
>117AD
>the fall
>>70044993
A picture I took in Greece
>>70044498
>Look at her facial bone structure.
She looks Fingallian
>>70041511
>implying young urban youths didn't vandalize greek and italian drawings with black colored graffiti
>>70042534
Your "blonde" isn't actually blonde though
>>70045232
>doesn't realize it was past its glory
>>70045313
>>70045381
>literally at its height
anyway, where did the alleged "brown" input came from in your fantasy world? I'm curious.
>>70044520
>Fallacy
Now you decide what is a fallacy or what is not? I don't watch stormfag videos showing how blonde and blue eyed the native Iberians were, yet they can't even pass a summer here without sun burns. Me, even I'm probably darker than you (moorish for you) I can't be exposed to the sun without burning. Raped by moors? Of course. Native blonde blue eyed iberians? Bullshit.
>>70045389
>>70045270
>>70044993
Also eastern Germany did get large amounts of Slavic blood at the end of the war. Obviously.
>>70045381
You're embaressing yourself Tyrone, just admit you fucked up.
>>70045270
Wow, you're a fucking champ. That's what.
>>70044545
>shorter than white americans
Lel
>>70039438
They did. Greek statues and paintings from classical Greece had blond/brown paint for hair and light paint for the skin.
Macedonia had some people with red hair.
>>70040044
Stay woke.
>>70044067
Celts were in Switzerland, Germany, France, Italy...
Why not Greece?
>>70042325
Surprise she is fattie
>>70045578
Instead of this juvenile tact you're taking, just watch the video, it addresses the things you've brought up.
>>70041761
you
>>70043651
Yeah.
That was one of the Maps I was looking for.
Thanks.
>>70039438
Arab sources from around 700 describe Byzantine (Greek) women as being the most beautiful in the world, blue eyed blonds, but also cheating whores who'd regularly cuck Arab husbands.
They probably overstated the prevalence of blond hair/blue eyes though. Greeks of today are still mostly the same as Greeks of a thousand years ago.
There wasn't any mass migration out of Greece and only eastern Thrace saw its population replaced with Turks.
>>70046286
>mostly
Depends on your definition of mostly.
>>70045381
>117 AD
>middle of the 5 Good Emperors era
>Nerva and Trajan before
>Hadrian starts ruling 117
>Antoninius Pius and Marcus Aurelius yet to come
>past its prime
kill yourself
>>70046103
what is the meaning of this shit?
>>70046263
Man... this chick is a hardcore Dominatrix. One of the strictest and toughest in Moscow. How do I know? I used to be her sub boyfriend.
>It's a Nordcucks are jealous of the European Mediterranean Herrenrasse and shit on them because of personal complex thead again
>>70040403
1/2
>"..the aristocracies of Hellas were a product of closely interbreeding, Eupatrid clans. These clans were mostly Nordic in type, being largely descended from the Indo-European invaders. The demos, or common people however, as well as most slaves, were of Mediterranean, Pelasgian descent."
WTF am i reading? Faggot, demos (Δήμος) was the sum of free citizens, it wasn't something like commoners, not even middle class. Those who qualified to be in Demos were free citizens only.
>".. Greek literature which Sieglin (1935) performed, has demonstrated that many individuals in the elites of ancient Greece, had blond or red hair. For instance, Alcibiades, Alexander the Great, Critias, Demetrius of Phalerum, King Lysimachus, Ptolemy II Philadelphus and King Pyrrhus, were all fair-haired individuals. Dionysius I, the ruler of Syracuse, had blond hair and freckles, whilst the Athenian playwright Euripides, also had a fair and freckled complexion. [Günther (1956).] Some critics have attempted to claim that the Greek word “ksanthos” (xanthos), means “brown-haired”, rather than “blond-haired”. However, a recent article by Moonwomon (1994), on colour-meaning in ancient Greek, reveals that the word did in fact mean blond. "
Even in present day we still have blonds here, just not the platinum blond ones. They aren't many but they never were in the first place.
I'll give a tl;dr about the Greek diversity:
Faggot wannabe scholars try to treat Ancient Greece as a whole unified country.
It fucking wasn't, it was composed by numerous City-States that most of the time they killed each other for resources and power. It was fucking rare to for citizens of different city states to marry, because that would translate to little to no legal rights for the offspring, even in Athenian democracy, one had to have both parents being Athenians, else he wasn't eligible for citizen status.
So we have established that intermarriage between city states was very rare.
>>70045594
>Germany's soccer team has a player named Miroslav Klose
>MIROSLAV
>SLAV
>>70043372
kek
>>70046759
Red Hair.
What do you think Celtic Blood? How white was her Skin? Some have Freckles I guess, but I am Ignorant of Celts except for the Language Expansion.
>>70046888
Another with poor reading comprehension, an epidemic.
>>70046888
2/2
It's very easy to understand from this point onward that in every city-state the noble families' traits were the desirable ones. If in one city most nobles were blonds, that was the desirable trait, if they were brunettes that was the desirable trait, so on and so forth.
So in a very short answer, different city-states actually evolved seperately at least until the fall of Hellas to Rome (and actualy for many centuries afterwards) that's why we have pretty much all colours of hair and all colours of eyes.
That's why the correct answer is this: we were as diverse as we were 2500 years ago. Nordicists, niggercists, stupidcists need to have their tongues in their asses before they speak about WE WUZ KANGS AND SHIIIEEEET tier theories.
>>70047389
Tongue in anus first, mutt. Read both posts before spouting shit
>>70039438
Blue eyes and blonde hair(and red hair) had a much, much broader geographic spread then than now. Dozens of mummies in China and Egypt have those traits so it's definitely not unreasonable to assume they were present in Greece as well.
>>70047316
She is ethnically Russian, but Russians are mix of Scandinavian, Celtic and Slavic blood so.. She didn't have freckles and, boy, tough she was. Late on a date for 5 minutes? Insane flagelation and kneeling on rice back at home.
>>70044993
The difference being that Germany was never part of the Soviet Union whilst Greece was continually settled by Turkish people for more than a thousand years and under their direct administration for the majority of that time.
Anatolia used to be the center of the Hellenic world, yet now it's a Turkish ethno-state.
>>70043944
>Immigration was the inevitable backwash of imperialism as slaves, adventurers, and traders swarmed into Rome. Over time, slaves were freed, foreigners gave birth to natives, non-Romans gained citizenship, and legal and social sanctions against intermarriage fell away. By the early empire, all that was left of the original Roman stock were a few patrician families.
This is it, Europe is done now. The only country to survive the rapefugees will be Finland, but they are mongols. RIP European white master race.
>>70047602
I guess Wiki has a list of European Noble Jewish Families.
I guess I should click on it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:European_nobility
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Noble_families
https://www.geni.com/projects/Noble-Houses-of-Europe/3605
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_Jewish_nobility
I don't want to sound dumb but I had no idea that there were noble jewish houses in Europe.
>>70049061
What kikes have to do with what i posted m8?
>stormfag ITT that thinks people native to southern european climates were all 100% nordic looking
>>70049061
>Noble House
>jewish
pick one.
True European Aristocracy never looked at them as equals and doesn't look still. Same like beduins in UAE and Saudi who found oil in the 60s claim heriatge and noble status. Pathetic!
>>70046888
>demos (Δήμος) was the sum of free citizens,
So lets try to list
- Nobility
- Emperor?
- Demos, Free Citizens, who vote, have special rights as citizens
- Traders, Mercheant Class
- People from Country Side with no Citizenship in a City-State
- Migrants with no rights or vote
- Slaves
- Prisoners, Criminals, those Ostracized or sent to Exile if not in Jail
- Someone held in respect like foreign king, Nobility, Courtesan, given special treatment
- I'm not a scholar, but see some of this from Sumarian Laws
>>70049446
>when the portumoor runs damage control to make up for being brown on all fronts
>social studies
are you in middle school?
>>70048645
Read the population map I posted.
Anatolia was also never the center of the Hellenistic world, that was Egypt, Syria, and Greece proper.
Likewise, Seljuk Turks only appear in modern day Turkey in the early 1000s, Constantinople fell in 1453, even after that, anything south of Thessaloniki was almost to entirely Greek.
Fuck off with "continually settled".
>>70049446
>>70049441
>in every city-state the noble families' traits were the desirable ones. If in one city most nobles were blonds, that was the desirable trait, if they were brunettes that was the desirable trait, so on and so forth.
Sorry you said Noble Families. I went big picture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3yon2GyoiM
This explains everything and is fantastic.
>>70049888
>literally what is Constantinople
Seljuks came to Anatolia in the early 1000s and never fucking left. They're still there today and outnumber the original Greeks 100,000:1. The Ottoman Empire didn't even fall until 1922.
Do you honestly think their population remained static the whole time? Come on buddy; just be honest.
>>70050129
>American education consists of Quentin "it's a black male thing" Tarantino movies
>>70049771
Demos was comprised of the sum of the citizens. It doesn't matter if one was trader, carpender, captain, general or whatever. If one was a citizen, meaning those who were eligible to vote and be voted were part of Demos. Slaves weren't part of Demos. Prisoners criminals etc weren't of course. Demos = the sum of people eligible to vote and be voted into office. Wealth was irrelevant.
>>70050268
this is one of his first movies, uncucked. If you don't know how this relates to the OP, you should watch.
>>70050164
>it's an argument cause I say it is!
Let me get this straight.
You have no actual graphs to show that Greece saw a massive influx of Turks coming into it, you assume that "Anatolia" was the center of Hellenistic Civilization because of a single city(not even in actual fucking Anatolia). And you equate populations being forced out of their homes with entire ethnic groups suddenly merging together.
Maybe you should stop learning history from /pol/.
>>70050409
I've seen that scene plenty of times, it has very little historical accuracy besides moors(=arabs) conquering Sicily.
>norther wops with blonde hair and blue eyes
lol, fair features are higher in frequency in the north, but certainly not in the majority(pic is blondism)
>>70039438
literally 'we wuz' with a German flavour.
>>70043728
Turkic genes are recesive as fuck retard. If anything Turks got bleached by anatolians. Theyr literally brainwashed greeks larping as turkic tribes.
>>70046162
I saw the hole video. I'll take eveything he says as truth.
Where It says something about pre moor invasion native iberians? Inb4 It mention 300k blonde sex slaves, It doesn't mean they were real iberians instead being the consequence of northern "occupation" and the plague that weakened christian states, happened in Byzantium. Neither says nothing about roman and pre roman iberians.
>>70039892
>They breeded with varangian guard
More than likely, IF the Vikings ever came down to Greece and stepped into the ruling class role, they existed for a time as a separate group, NOT breeding with the locals. Because blonde hair/blue eyes are recessive traits and would have been masked by the local genetics.
It's possible that other races passed through and bred with the blonde/blue inhabitants. That indicate that the Nordic descendants no longer occupied a position in society necessary to defend their upper caste position. On the other hand, it's more than likely the the blond/blue genetics were killed off by melanoma.
>>70050129
Can you believe that this video gets posted at least once every time a threads starts talking about us (so pretty much every thread) and i still haven't bothered watching it?
>>70039640
Someones a greasy smelly turkshit..good damage control
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