Is studying Philosophy completely useless to society?
>>70037449
if that is the only thing you do it is.
>>70037513
I mean like getting a degree
>>70037449
Anything that isn't a stem degree is useless
>>70037449
If you go to university for it, yes. But it's something you should know about
>>70037449
Define "studying".
>>70037449
Of course not! Studying it in a university, however, is largely a mistake unless you are both a genius and are not paying for your own education.
>>70037449
yes of course it fucking is
>>70037596
The only philosophy degree worth a shit is a PhD, and even that may or may not entail you working as an associate professor at some community college for $17,500 a year. Pick a different major, seriously.
>>70037619
t. soviet russia
>>70037449
>Is studying Philosophy completely useless to society?
Only if you expect to have a great career as a think and debater.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5Xx9IxlrEg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A84nH0RCYU4
Besides that I guess you can impress regressives at parties.
So it appears to be if you're a massive prole.
>>70037449
she looks like a Russian hooker i met in Marseille.
it's not something the average citizen should be encouraged to do. most people don't need to study philosophy to lead happy and fulfilling lives. philosophy should only be available for study in the university as a graduate program, not something for directionless 20 something year olds to waste their parents money on.
>>70037927
Soviet Russia was the best tbqh
>>70037803
Best answer
>>70038035
nvm, even better answer
Philosophy is women's studies tier. It's literally
>what is?
>what can be?
>why?
All questions, no answers. Talk about useless.
>>70037449
85% of philosophy grads who apply to law school get in. Google it.
>>70037596
It's useless unless you are a genius, but since you are asking I assume you are not.
If you want to study philosophy do it because you are seeking new knowledge no one else has developed before (or if you want to refute some thought that is prevalent and has flaws), not because you like plato or some other greek dude.
I recommend you research what are today's relevant topics in this field and see if you are interested. The worst thing you could do is go to philosophy thinking that this is what smart people do. If you really want to be a philosopher you need to improve your self-criticism first.
It is not a mistake if any of these are the case:
>you don't care about money
>you are planning to go to law school afterward
>you are planning to go to medical school afterward
>you are involving yourself in business, software development, advertising, design, or something else monetarily beneficial such that upon graduating you have real-world knowledge / experience
>you are going to a top 5 philosophy program, have a backup plan, and are having your education paid for
In every other case it is a mistake.
t,
philosophy major turned dropout
>>70038186
if you're bad it sure
>>70038284
this, unless you somehow can get by writing books
All the important questions we have or could ever have, have already been answered about 2400 years ago.
>>70038186
People should only get into philosophy if they are interested in creating new philosophies to solve the problems the old philosophies couldn't.
>>70037449
At times like this, yes. In less dire straits, it's fine.
>>70037449
Yes, if you're a utilitarian.
>>70038390
>not 800 years ago
Diogenes is pretty cool. However spending 60,000$ mmm not sure.
>>70037449
Not at all.
Our future is looking bleak - we need some great minds to emerge.
>>70037449
I read an interesting article about a philosophy company making huge money as consultants in the private sector. Seemed like glorified H.R. to me, but I guess someone finds them useful. Also most Philosofags here go into law.
>>70038390
t. Dumb frenchie
>>70038035
Based "Burn The Boats" Tones got a bachelor in philosophy.
And a couple of masters in law and economics of course.
>>70037449
completely, no.
But maybe it should be a secondary skill for someone who already know something else applied
Just gonna leave this here
>>70037449
Philosophy majors are the worst. Putting names on ideas people have already had.
>hurr durr I work at Office Depot but I'm the smartest person I know
It's going to be helpful when we come to abandon ethical systems that are based on religion and tradition. As we move towards becoming a more secular society we need to open up large scale discussions about what morality is and how to apply it logically and consistently without appealing to subjectivity and opinion.
It'll be key for moving from authoritarian and statist systems to ones of freedom and liberty such as libertarianism and then later voluntarism/anarchy. Those systems are inherently more moral because they contain less violence but we need a peaceful and well educated populace for them to work long term.
>>70037449
I don't know. Nudes please
>>70037648
my friend has a triple major in history/philosophy/political science
>socialist
>works at a liquor store
>>70038284
>you are planning to go to law school afterward
I fell for this meme.
Don't waste 4 years studying something that doesn't offer any skills to get a job if you don't want to go to law school. You don't know what you'll want to do in 4 years, you can't be sure you'll stick through.
Even if it's harder and you get worse marks, just do better on the LSAT.
Seriously it's 4 fucking years in the prime of your life, don't take BS courses just to "boost" you GPA for law school.
>>70037449
In my opinion informal logic should be studied by everyone. Knowing how to form logical arguments and dismantle bullshit ones is highly worth the time spent. Metaphysics, Epistemology and Aesthetics I don't place too much importance on past leisure.
>>70037449
its something that you should take a passing interest in your spare time if you can be bothered, as a course though its as pretentious as taking an art course.
>>70037449
everyone should study philosophy, but not as your main degree.
>>70038186
>Philosophy is women's studies tier.
Murican education.
OP, ask yourself if you like doing philosophy, whether or not you get any money, social benefits, including respect from society and your peers. Ask yourself if you like the activity of philosophy. Ask if you like living that kind of life.
Then do it. Or don't. That's the question that matters.
At if you like it, you can figure out a way to make money, somehow or other, doing something or other. Who cares what. That's just money.
>>70037449
They greatly improved my critical thinking skills. I wouldn't be where I am today without the classes I took.
For a career, it's a hard field to get into, but I think everyone could easily benefit from taking at few philosophy courses. It's also a good second major if you can manage that.
>>70037449
Who is this spunk monk? This semon demon? This fluid druid?
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>>70037449
No. The world's most powerful man have both a bachelor and a doctorate in philosophy.
>>70039359
Oh ya I forgot Ethics. That one is interesting. I see a lot of people in here don't really know what disciplines Philosophy encompasses. Read the sticky at the top of /pol/, all those fallacies are part of logic, which is part of Philosophy.
>>70037596
I have a philosophy degree and work in engineering. Most people who major in philosophy do well for themselves, but you also have to be an intelligent person to get through the program and most would have done well for themselves anyway. The students are usually the fringe of the college and are pretty great people besides the one athiest kid in my classes who made every question into a snarky remark about christians even when it was completely irrelevant.
>>70037449
> studying something anyone can do
That's like doing a job anyone can do and expecting more money for it.
It's the only thing worthwhile
Liberal arts is useless.
>>70039601
Who is this
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seminal sentinel
phallus chalice
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smegma enigma
beef curtain hurtin
cunt runt
willy wrap
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jism prison
ballbiting ballerina
dongle mongle
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frenulum fractionizer
foreskin forenicator
Penile Private
Smut Sergeant
Cock Captain
Orifice Officer
Rear Admiral
Cummander
Lewd Lieutenant
Meat Major
Cunt Colonel
weiner witch
phallus phalanx
cock commandant
dong deity
semen demon
seminal fluid druid
jizz wiz
benis burglar
wang waxer
schlong sentinel
dick dastard
jizz jezebel
tally wacker packer
schlong sorcerrer
weenie genie
chode road
male repoductive organ gorgan
shaft shaft
ding dong dungeon
scrotum totem
ballsack knapsack
testicle vestibule
ball butter nutter
>>70038186
How many philosophers are female, and how many things can you name that haven't be directly influenced by philosophy?
>>70039242
Shit, how do you pick three useless majors?
>>70038259
>If you want to study philosophy do it because you are seeking new knowledge no one else has developed before
You'd have to be as smart as Saul Kripke or Peter Singer to do that. I doubt OP is anywhere that close.
>>70039242
>works at a liquor store
he's a degenerate
>>70039456
I do. I've was always interested in questioning about things like ethics and epistemology. I have a pretty basic knowledge of different ethics and epistemology (Kant,Hume,etc.). However i haven't disciplined myself to read book and i don't if i'm motivated enough because i'm a lazy shit.
'I'll take a mocha latte and a blueberry muffin please.'
Get used to hearing that.
>>70037513
This. I study philosophy, but I'm working towards a psyche degree
Depends on the philosopher...
Epictetus is very useful, for example. It makes you a happier person and a better person.
Philosophy is something you should arrive at independently, not by having people tell you how to think.
>>70037449
Useless to society? No. If you intend to develop your mind and then use your mind for the betterment of society, then it's eminently useful. Write books. Go to work in politics. Write speeches for charismatic people who need to get the word out. Go into advertising. Get a law degree and be one of the good guy lawyers. Work with young people so they don't grow up into assholes and shitheads.
>>70037449
I lot of people forget that Socrates was a sculptor/stone mason just like his father was. Then he did like "workshops" with merchants for a while to learn skills like shoe-making. He then did a career of almost thirty years in the military. Then he did work as a councilman. So I mean Socrates had a pretty well rounded life. I think a degree in Philosophy isn't really what you should be interested in OP. Have a well rounded life, experience things, then study philosophy as Socrates did and I am sure it'd be more beneficial to society.
Also a Philosophy student literally told me all you do is like read someone else's shit and write a paper and you get money. That sounds like it's a scam almost. You just write thought provoking stuff that has been said and you get money. Who does that help? But if you lived as Socrates did, have a well rounded life, service your nation and home, and all these other things he did. I think if you then studies philosophy you'd maybe have more profound discoveries and ideas than what we have right now flowing into our media.
One of my colleagues write a paper concerning how Animals are people and should be treated as people. He wasn't a philosophy major, but someone he managed to pump out three hundred pages of why animals should be considered people. It was nonsense and filled with horrendous fallacies but he believed it profound and earth shaking. These are the people that are in Philosophy majors.
Tl;Dr it's only a waste if you do it completely wrong OP.
>>70037449
No but humanities-liberal education in general should be restricted to the top 10-15%.
In other words, If you have to work in order to not starve you shouldn't study them
>>70040446
>implying philosophers only order mocha lattes and blueberry muffins
HA, Idiot.
>>70040122
IDK its crazy because his dad is like a carpenter or something. So I am not sure how he measured the marketability of his degree.
>>70039080
People like you ruined Libertarianism for me.
Read Aurelius' Meditations, and then choose a better major
>>70037449
It's good if you go to law school afterwards
>>70037449
Very
https://soundcloud.com/couchtruthing/emperor-trump
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't computer science considered philosophy ~40 years ago?
>>70037449
If it's a woman or a Jew or a black guy with the philosophy degree, yes. Because they've categorically contributed nothing.
>>70040736
Basically, to be a good philosopher, you have to actually understand what the world's like
Yes, it's convoluted degenerate kikery at this point.
>>70037449
Find connections and do well, then you might get job, phil majors are up there with engineering in terms of IQ
>>70037449
Not if you plan on going to Law School.
Otherwise: are you a Jew? If not, forget making a career out of it.
>>70037449
Depends what you do with the knowledge.
I could ask is studying medicine completely useless to society and people would line up to say 'No, medicine is very useful to society.'
But if after studying medicine that knowledge is wasted making ugly stupid women attractive enough to reproduce, creating a world full of ugly stupid babies, is that really a benefit to society?
>>70039242
ewww someone that featureless and ugly should never look that smug
In money sense? Yes, it's useless.
In personal sense? It's invaluable (But you'll still be poor).
Unless you're a genius in human interaction, humanities, and history - don't bother.
If you are, I look forward to reading your works.
@OP, that depends entirely by what you mean by philosophy.
>>70041362
This tbhfaм
>>70041263
engineers are all autists. seriously they have shit personal skills and no self respect at even the most basic level.
>>70041362
this is true. plastic surgery + manipulated reproduction = degeneracy
>>70037513
This. If you put your philosophy and the philosophies you've studied towards a practical goal, then it can be useful.
>>70037449
Yes, but not at university.
Anyone who can contribute anything new to philosophy is intelligent enough to learn all the jargon themselves, and the time you spend in academia would be far better spent out in the world working and learning about the world.
Ivory tower career academics are cancer.
>>70037449
It's not so bad for a liberal arts making yourself better person. Still not worth it unless you a are rich.
>>70037449
Damn, girls like that are godlike.
>>70037449
>>70037596
Philosophy is a good degree to lead into Law, especially if you focus on Ethics.
>>70041549
Your 15 minute break us up. I'll have a half-caf grande latte.
philosophy is good to few practical things :
getting laid in a humanities/arts/psychology party.
finding fallacies.
and figuring out hard problems that can only be described in books. Studying it is a plasure, and gives you better weapons to understand what there is and what isnt.
>>70041430
its easyer to get a job as a historian then a philosopher.
>>70037449
studying philosophy? no. getting a college degree in philosophy? yes.
>>70045627
It's essential when studying law or if you work in law reform.
Not sure what civil law jurisdictions are like but in the common law drafting legislation without understanding the philosophical lenses the judiciary will use results in unwanted consequences.
>>70037513
This. Philosophy classes/books are cool. Philosophy majors are useless.
t. Biochemistry major
You don't need to go to university to study philosophy.
It was a joke degree even with a good economy, now you're just making yourself another liability.
>>70041549
>I can't get the respect engineers receive therefore they're shitty people!
>>70038390
stop embarrassing yourself, France...
>>70038491
kek
>>70037449
If you work as a teacher not really.
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