Wouldn't this be the easiest solution to all of our problems. Outlaw it, close our borders and let the radicals murder each other?
Why do we keep our borders open and accept this cult, which causes 99 percent of terrorism in Europe and is dividing society?
No Islam, no problem.
>>70023820
Because closing off your borders is the first step in another Holocaust ;)
>>70024139
>annuda shoah
yes please
>>70023820
Regressives will cry religous intolerance
libertarians will claim it infringes on thier rights to free speech
Open border multiculturalists will cry racism
Muslim apologists will claim it's literally hitler night of the broken glass blah blah blah
The muslims will keep bombing you and nobody will do anything to stop it.
Eventually those in power will come to thier senses and realize these muslims are dangerous. They will stage a false flag attack and allow you to reclaim your country. (While also putting you in the middle of another globalist middle eastern war)
>>70007667
Ban Islam, support Frauke Petry
>>70023820
That'll do it. Religious nutters won't blow people up if it's against the law...
>>70023820
I don't want this religion on the chopping block today so mine ends up on it tomorrow.
>>70023820
>Why don't we just simply outlaw Islam?
Because that goes against human rights and like a dozen treaties.
It's kind of a no-win situation. Either Europe kills its soul by abandoning her principles or they lose their identity in some decades from the population shift.
>>70024342
It's actually super easy to keep mussies out.
Make them burn a koran or draw the prophet or eat a bacon sandwhich. That is not permissible under any circumstance
>>70024442
You have voting power and majority if you are christian. Nobody is coming for you christ cucks
>>70024442
>Muh sky-daddy paranoia
Fuck off. If we have to suffer this shit just so you can carry on sucking the corner of your security blanket, you can go in the same garbage can as the muzzies!
>>70024332
Nope, no one will wake up. The ship is already sinking, there is no stopping it. I recommend all Europeans to seriously consider moving to Australia or America. We may be becoming a minority, but at least Hispanics are Christian and believe in western values.
When Europe becomes Islamic, prepare to lose all your freedoms, especially if you're a woman. Good news is that American women will gush over you because of your accents.
>>70024638
I love this argument. Islam violates almost every principal of civilized society. It violates the foundation that western civilization.
I don't find it contradictory at all to preserve your principals.
No free speech for those who wish to take away free speech.
>>70024332
this right here
something's gotta give when time after another a guy yells allahu ackbar and blows himself up but everybody's got some reason to say we cant just nip it in the bud
>>70024764
>It's actually super easy to keep mussies out.
If you're half a world away, yeah. Europe's borders are porous as fuck, and always have been.
>>70024900
I don't think you get it. This is all a game. It's all artificial conflict. The powers at be do not want the war economy to end. They are making billions. The only way to justify it is to propogate hate towards muslims. So they let the savages in. They let them rape european women .They stage a few false flag bombings then kick them back out and start another war in the middle east. It's like clockwork.
>>70024984
Only thing giving is Europes collective asshole. The EU is the problem and as long as it exists, Europe is unsalvagable.
>>70024139
Yeah, but in this case, Germany would get a sternly worded letter telling them how gassing the Muzzies is wrong and that we are very, very angry with them, while everybody just looks the other way and secretly smiles.
BTW, I've heard that Krupp makes some kickass ovens. It sounds like an investment opportunity, because when Germany finally blows, ovens will be in high demand.
>>70024332
>libertarians will claim it infringes on thier rights to free speech
IMO, you mean freedom of religion. Anyhow, once you understand that Islam isn't just a religion, but also a political system that is very anti-libertarian in its nature, it shouldn't even be a problem for libertarians to be against Islam.
Because the west has this misguided moral sensibility that "oh we aren't Nazis!". It'll unfortunately never happen, we can ban the most pervasive and degenerate aspects of it though.
For instance, only English language services allowed, banning of the hijab/burqa/niaqb in public, banning of non-official languages in public (so no more Arabic covered shitholes) and the very heavily monitored madrasses and Islamic faith schools.
I'd personally have ID cards for all Muslims too but I'd imagine this would be a step too far for most.
>>70025238
Noooope. The powers that be want to bring about multiculturalism and diversity as fast as possible and are doing as much damage as they can before they get removed from power.
Leftists/communists/Jews are the problem and they all have the same goal. Making one mixed race of chattel.
>>70025260
that's the problem with idealistic left wing libertarians. They don't realize islam is in part a political system that promotes barbarism through sharia so they keep pretending to tolerate those who can not be tolerated. Sometimes you have to violate your own ideals in order to preserve them from savages.
>>70023820
because you are a bunch of cuckolds
>>70023820
Why don't we just kick out every arab and nigger from Europe?
>>70025238
This guy gets it. Eisenhower warned us all (not just the Yanks) about the consequences of a MIL, but we didn't listen. Now we have psychopaths perpetuating endless war to justify their profits. The day of the rope will have to start in Washington D.C. and Wall St for this shit to be put to bed.
>>70025407
England has sharia courts. As long as you have that, you're losing.
>>70025718
*MIC
>>70025721
England doesn't have sharia courts (yet).
>>70025718
Were already at war with the Middle East.
>>70025656
> Bulgaria
> Only 85% natives
> 9% Turks
> Aldatmak için başkasını arayın
>>70025515
Letting them in is only to make us hate them. Useful idiots promote it Leftists and commies are puppets.
Jews know the truth though. They have no intention of multicultralism. That has no profit. They want war They are not satisfied with just israel. The kikes will not be satisfied until islam is whiped out. For that they need our help. So they pull the strings. They let in the muslims. They makes us experience first hand the savage nature of the slime then when we fight back it allows them to use our right wing politicians to convince us to fight another war in the middle east allowing thier influence to grow.
The mussies are bad but we are being manipulated
>>70025539
I don't really consider myself a libertarian, but if you had to pick which political party/ideology I am closest to, it would probably be Libertarian. That being said, any Libertarian who understands that there is a huge political component to Islam shouldn't find it outside of their ideals to be against Islam. Islam will advocate the use of force to bring you into its fold or get rid of you, therefore, even with the non-aggression principle that is at the core of Libertarian values, Islam becomes fair game.
Ridicule is better and more fun.
>>70025866
There isn't towns where English law doesn't apply and Muslims run the courts the way they want (sharia).
>>70026025
Were already at war with then and have been for over a decade. This is deeper than a business model based on war, it's ideological. Mixing the world and bringing it under one government.
>>70024442
>Implying it not already is
>>70026298
That's right. There isn't.
>>70026025
>>70026187
>>70026298
It's simple, target and track the muslims in your area (moderate, radical it's all the same shit) and slaughter them in the chaos :^).
>>70025947
>speaking gibberish back to me
And those 9% turks speak bulgarian, work as farmers in small villages, have the same birth rates as bulgarians, and their daughters can not wear burqas in school, and soon, they won't be allowed to wear burqas at all. And those turks never riot or chimp out.
Meanwhile you have violent muslamic ghettos, and you are importing half of our gypos, like the pathetic cuckolds you are. Enjoy.
>>70025721
Yep those need to get broken up too, we only have "one" recognised but I am sure the same elders in this Islamic micro-colonies all operate an internal shariah too.
I'd also create a new hardline police force to deal with mudslimes similar to how CRASH fucked up niggers in the 90s.
I'd also make it easier to emigrate out of the country to Islamic countries, at the moment it's too difficult. Don't like it then I invite you back to Pakistan on the first government subsidised flight
>>70025690
/thread
Based Orban spoke
>>70025238
These same powers that be been at it since 600 AD then? No, this conflict is not Artificial although it's in the elites interest and that's why it's gotten more notable since the fall of the Soviet Union.
>>70026298
The people who want one world government should have studied a bit more about geology and physics. The more global the economy and government, the more energy and complexity it will all take to run. They are going to run into real physical and practical limits. It will be the fall of the Roman Empire v2.0, but on a much bigger scale if some localism isn't allowed to creep back in.
>>70026680
>muh false equivalence
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Go to bed.
>>70023820
>Why don't we just simply outlaw Islam?
asking myself the same.
i mean Scientology and other cults are already banned in France.
and god knows they caused way less damage than islam.
the problem is on what basis would they ban it on ?.
violence or the scripture (koran) ? its no more violent than the bible.
violence of its followers, they'll just deny it as being an unrepresentative minority
>>70026298
Yes but that war economy can only be sustained with more hate.
The jews control the left and right wing.
Fox news and co promote hate towards muslims but they do it for the wrong reasons. They do it to justify more war. This is why they conducted 9/11. To rally the people against muslims.
Does that make the muslims the good guys? No they are subhuman scum and make an excellent scapegoat.
This is why the right wing is so opposed to trump. He actually plans to do something. Whipe out isis. The current perfect boogeyman.
We can't have that!
Keep muslims out.
If that happens nobody will be able to experience how savage they are! that is no good.
If trump gets elected there will be no more justification for zionist war
>>70026680
I never said muslims were not bad. See this is why they are the perfect boogeyman. They are actually bad people. The boogeyman is real. but he is weak. IF we wanted to whipe them out we could in a week.
>>70026927
It's not false equivalence, all we've ever seen from Islam is violent expansion and hegemonic dominance over alternative religions and cultures. If you don't realise this then you are a paki, this is not some 1984 Orwellian "we are now at war with Oceania, Eurasia are now our allies".
In fact if it wasn't for the Soviet Union this shit would have bubbled up much sooner. They were fighting this crap way back in the 60s
They don't want it. The whole thing is set up to bring about a police state. Alex Jones is right for once.
>>70025238
>>70024900
>two tinfoil hats argue over who the REAL villain is, and what his motives are.
Is this what the jews really want?
>>70023820
we should bomb IS with pigs and see what happens
>kill the muslims
>>70023820
AYY DAS RACISS MAYNE
>>70027124
>its no more violent than the bible.
The difference is the abrogation. While in the bible the violent parts are predominantly the older ones and the newer ones overwrite them, in Islam it's vice versa since that goatfucker turned into a warlord.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naskh_%28tafsir%29
Because then only criminals will have Islam.
>>70027142
You're right about the desert cult. They have always been shit. but jews are using us. They want us to kill the muslims even though we don't need to. We can build walls. We can keep them out. We have better technology and resources than they do. They would all die if free money was not pumping out of the ground. We could glass all of the middle east in 1 afternoon.
Muslims have been fighting eachother for years. They can not organize. They are weak and divided. They can't hurt us if we don't let them. But the jews are playing these games with us.
>>70023820
I wish it was that simple.
>>70027343
you know that with religion things are always subjective, particularly with Islam and Arabic language.
one sentence could mean many things.
they'll use it to deny your point
>>70027279
We all know the enemy is the jews. I'm just saying the jews motivation is not the destruction of europe. It's the destruction of islam that they want. They are willing to kill europeans to achieve it.
>>70027343
IIRC, in Islam, there is even a rule for dealing with contradictions within the Quran. Whatever was stated towards the end of the blasted book trumps whatever was stated towards the beginning.
>>70023820
>and is dividing society?
Says the country that was divided over if they should listen to Rome or a local monk.
>>70027142
We've been raping the desert-niggers for the last 300 years, and had them completely contained in their sandy shithole.
The war profiteers have pushed the global terrorism agenda since the end of WW2. The foundation of Israel, operation Gladio, hijackings and bombings. These are all used to de-stabilize areas of interest, and keep America's perceived enemies and rivals in a down-trodden state.
For a country that takes such a pride in the concept of freedom, it sure has spent a lot of effort in making sure no-one else gets any. It's the geo-political equivalent of a track athlete tying together the other runners shoelaces on the starting block, and then claiming to be the fastest runner.
The saddest part is, the American public would be the worlds best friend in this regard, were the truth known, for they have a good heart, mostly. But they have been so dumbed down by a shitty education system and TV propaganda that the few voices in the wilderness are scorned instead of praised.
>>70024764
>That is not permissible under any circumstance
And Christians aid the same thing at one point
We all know how that ended.
>>70024442
yours should be too. Abrahamic Religions are cancer.
>>70024924
>I don't find it contradictory at all to preserve your principals.
>No free speech for those who wish to take away free speech
NIGGA WUT?!
Limiting freedom of speech for people belonging to certain religious or ideological groups is one of the greatest abandonment of western principles you can possible do.
>>70023820
>outlaw islam
Don't you like a little challenge?
>>70027939
Everything. I mean absolutly everything on tv is propaganda. the left wing and the right.
The radios are controlled.
The papers are controlled.
Nobody knows what to believe anymore.
The last bastion of rationality comes from these little shithole niche corners of the internet.
the hard part is seeing the game. the harder part is convincing others to realize what the game is.
But we get bogged down. The shills come and muddy the discussion crying cuck for anyone who is not ideologically pure enough isolating our message further.
>>70028443
I understand that but in order to preserve those principals you need to violate them. It's a monkeys paw
>>70028443
Western laws apply to westerners only. That's the problem with society today, they want to apply their law and cultural norms to others.
>>70028672
Pretty much this. We have discovered the ideal way to govern in western principals but you can not allow savages to come in and demand you change your way of life in exchange for sharia. We can not hold savages to our standards.
We can not give handouts to the savage invaders.
classical liberalism, socialism, Facism, Constitutionalism, Traditionalism,
All can work. Capitalism can work. You can argue till blue in the face about what is better but you can't allow foreigners who are not loyal to your country or it's values inside or it spells doom.
The key to any successful nation is nationalism. You can add whatever ideology you want on top of that but nationalism is the most important
>>70028540
Have you seen this?
http://www.triviumeducation.com/
It's the precursor to the quadrivium (ancient pre-greek learning tools).
The idea is, you get a good vocabulary first (so you don't sound like an idiot), then you learn logic (so you can pick apart falsehoods), then you learn how to spread your thoughts and ideas by rational persuasion.
Give the link to anyone you meet as a free gift of critical thinking for life. Because the only way we are going to get ourselves out of this mess is by first seeing that we are in a mess. A few lonely voices isn't enough, and if it's only the mob shouting for justice, they can too easily be led astray by vested interests.
Question everything. Twice.
>"the unexamined life is not worth living"
>>70029367
Pretty interesting. I will listen to this more when i have the time.
Going out to vote today.
Thanks for the link
Millions were spend to bring Iranian Christian refugees into Czech Republic, to feed, house and clothe them.
Results?
A major part of them will not even apply for asylum and moves to Germany instead.
And I have just read Syrian Christians Poles have paid everything for, planes to Poland, food, brand new housing, etc. have left for Germany during nights without even saying goodbye.
Any Poles want to confirm?
