https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJC1unnuwds
I hope so.
the whole thing was a crime
>>70018564
FPBP
/thread
>>70018617
how so?
>>70018477
too bad not enough amerifats died.
>>70018477
Without doubt.
source - former military police officer
And people wonder why so many Arabs hate the west.
All wars in the hostory of... ever, have had what you would classify war crimes by todays standarts
If we used the same rules established at the Nazi generals/officials at the Nuremberg Trials then its a very obvious yes. But those laws apply only to loser countries. For god sake they attacked hospitals in Fallujah.
>>70018477
Basketball American in a uniform lecturing an Iraqi father on his kid being in school.
>In English.
Oh the ironing.
>>70018761
What crimes did the US commit exactly?
>>70018477
Winners don't commit war crimes baka desu.
>>70018759
Fuck you roach our soldiers are heroes
>>70018477
Name a war without war crimes.
Good I see you've shut up already.
>>70018930
as much as i hate to agree with the slav, he is correct
>>70018761
give us some good bantz about the stupidest/worst things you came across soldiers getting up to
>>70018930
>>70018968
But What war crimes were committed?
>>70018477
>army
found the problem
>>70018477
I don't think you can commit war crimes against animals.
Not enough
>>70018477
> war crimes
I don't understand this meme
>>70019076
whats wrong with the army?
>>70019115
>>70019118
War crimes are not a good thing anons.....
>>70018477
This is why I don't like niggers, they didn't need to destroy it
>>70019251
> you did a thing we didn't like
> let me shift into maximum over-war
It's war, dude, bad things happen.
>>70018564
FPBP
>>70019251
There's no such thing as a "war crime."
Imposing laws on war is fucking stupid. If you're going to go to war, you kill everyone and break everything, or you don't go to war at all.
>>70018916
to begin with ...
>A presidential memorandum of February 7, 2002, authorized U.S. interrogators of prisoners captured during the War in Afghanistan to deny the prisoners basic protections required by the Geneva Conventions, and thus according to Jordan J. Paust, professor of law and formerly a member of the faculty of the Judge Advocate General's School, "necessarily authorized and ordered violations of the Geneva Conventions, which are war crimes."[61] Based on the president's memorandum, U.S. personnel carried out cruel and inhumane treatment on captured enemy fighters,[62] which necessarily means that the president's memorandum was a plan to violate the Geneva Convention, and such a plan constitutes a war crime under the Geneva Conventions, according to Professor Paust.[63]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes#War_on_Terror
>>70019439
If you're talking about the video i saw one white guy, two blacks guys and a Mexican not just blacks
>>70019251
the term only exists to put pressure on weaker nations, stop kidding yourself.
Look at what constitutes a war crime. They've made it entirely impossible to win a war without commiting war crime.
>>70018477
of course, but only poor countries gets punished for war crimes. War crimes is just something we use as a excuse to bomb people and to feel better about brown people when they break them. We break them all the time, but that does not matter. It does not apply to us.
>>70019232
they're a bunch of unprofessional retards as you can see in the video. only the special forces branches of the army are worth a shit.
>>70018951
Your soldiers are cowards and trash. Now you have to deal with all those welfare queens.
>>70019440
War is supposed to fought with a code of conduct
Thats what separates civilized countries from uncivilized countries, we have rules for a reason anon, war crimes are not a good thing
>>70018916
War of aggression:
The evidence of the threat Iraq posed was so flimsy and proved to be almost entirely fabricated
War crimes/crime against humanity:
Attacks on journalists, hospitals, use of chemical weapons, torture of civilians, detaining civilians without due process
Crimes against peace:
Attacking a sovereign nation in violation of international law
You can go on and on like this. Literally every one of the charges laid at the Nazi generals feet at the Nuremberg trials.
>>70019537
Okay to be fair weapons that cause harm (beyond the control of the user) like cluster bombs and mines should be banned.
Of course the rag heads aren't going to follow the rules, they're already breaking the rules by dressing up as civillians.
>>70018477
That's what you get when you loot.
>>70019712
>almost
;)
>>70019545
self-governed islamic fanatics are not recognized as part of signatory nations of the geneva convention -> claim = garbage.
>>70019708
>Your soldiers are cowards and trash
How are they cowards if they actually served in combat? How much combat have you seen you fucking coward keyboard warrior
>>70018803
Sauce she looks sexyy
>>70019177
There was a thread last night when it came up about crimes in WWII. Could be that.
>>70018930
He's right. Only the winners wright the rules of war. If nazi germany won, they would be decorated heros and the allied forces villified
>>70018759
>>70018951
Heroes? They're ignorant nobodies that never had a chance to make it in the regular world so they were shoved into a military they don't really know anything about. Our soldiers might not be "bad" but it doesn't make them heroes. This country is fucking retarded.
Think about it. Think about how many great young men we lose every day to the military because they have no other options as we slowly watch all sense of American culture get flushed down the toilet. Fuck this place.
>>70019652
What would you suggest they would have done then? They caught those Iraqis looting
sometimes i love my country so much
>>70019857
>How are they cowards if they actually served in combat?
They would never have fought if they did not hide behind barricades, armored cars and tanks. They would never have fought if they did not sit safely on a base with a joystick. If Americans have to deal with the same situation as the Afghans they would just flee and cry. The reason America has a bald eagle is because it represents the American character. A coward and a thief.
>>70019712
How is detaining civilians in a war zone a war crime?
lol that sounds fucking stupid of course you should detain anyone who posses a potential threat not a war crime
>>70019709
How do you enforce these rules in a fucking war?
> pls stop dismembering our soldiers
> pls stop bombing our hospitals
> pls stop
> pls
> I'm telling the UN!
>>70020187
What you said made no sense.... anyone who is actually fighting on the ground in a war zone is not a coward you fucking idiot, taking cover is good military tactics what are you retarded?
>>70020196
They detained them without due process, shipped some to a concentration camp in Cuba, tortured them, the Serb's in Bosnia/Kosovo were charged for similar things.
>>70020187
it's called technology idiot you can't call someone a coward just because they aren't wearing raggy clothes, a pair of sandals and a rusty ak lol
>>70020187
this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkwZDRB3tZo
>>70018759
>>70018803
no nigel, they hated you before iraq, either of our interventions in iraq
they hate you because you're a kafir
there's nothing you can do, no amount of money or welfare is going to change that
>>70019938
What have you done for this country exactly? They risked their lives to keep us safe while you type behind a keyboard talking shit while youre safe at home you fucking pussy
>>70018803
hope that wasnt liquor
she goin die!
>>70020526
why is its keyboard upside down?
>>70018477
>it never happened
>krauts never did this either
>IT NEVER HAPPENED
>>70018477
What a stupid fucking question
>>70020584
I'm a pussy for not wanting to join a military I don't trust? I'm a pussy for valuing my life more than that? I'm a pussy for not following whatever orders are barked at me and willing to sell my life to a government that I don't trust in order to fit in? No fucking thanks dude. Kids don't join the military because they're heroes. They join the military because they're shoved into it.
I'd rather almost anything else than to fight for this government.
>>70020205
When you have a vastly superior armed forces and technology and you pride yourself on the rule of law and freedom you do have the ability to act civilly and apply the same rules (if not more strigent rules) to yourself as you would your official state enemies (I.e. The Serbs, the Nazi's, the Japanese)
>>70020738
not answering my question
>>70018477
Definitely, yes
It was a crime not to nuke that place to shit
Better be....GUANTANAMO!
>>70018477
Dindu meme thread
>>70020813
When I was in the Marines I didn't feel like I was fighting for the government, I felt like I was fighting for my family, my friends, and most importantly my brothers in the corps, the rest of my fire team, the rest of my battalion, and even general mattis.
>>70018477
Pic related was not evem considered a war crime you fucking idjot. They made him think the shit was electrified, but it wasn't. It was just another type of uncomfortable standing position they had them in. That was standard operating procedure.
Hardly anything the americans were accused of doing in Abu Ghraib was even that bad, considerjng what most of those fuvks did to get themselves thrown in there. The naked pyramid? OMGEEEE.... how turribul!!!!
The idea of "war crimes" is a joke. Just the UN jerking themselves off to make themselves feel better. Human rights dont exist. Just depends on what "rights" whatever leadership you're under recognize and can change at will. The only right yoh have is self defense
>>70020813
You are a pussy because you are afraid of dying for this great country, if everyone thought like you this country wouldn't even exist so yes you are a fucking pussy man up
>>70018477
nah senpai we gave hussein Doritos and shit
>>70021174
Yeah, I don't doubt that. You can feel however the fuck you want to feel. That doesn't change what you're really there for. You're there to enforce a government you know nothing about that doesn't give a fuck about you or your family. They're happy to give you handouts in order to keep you happy and make you feel patriotic but that's all brainwashing bullshit. All of your so-called "enemies" thought they were doing the right thing too.
>>70021313
pic related, this "great country" was sold out A LONG TIME AGO
>>70019807
>self-governed islamic fanatics are not recognized as part of signatory nations of the geneva convention -> claim = garbage.
yeah i've heard that before however
A. Prisoners of war, in the sense of the present Convention, are persons belonging to one of the following categories, who have fallen into the power of the enemy:
1. Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict as well as members of militias or volunteer corps forming part of such armed forces.
2. Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a Party to the conflict and operating in or outside their own territory, even if this territory is occupied, provided that such militias or volunteer corps, including such organized resistance movements, fulfil the following conditions:
According to US military law, all prisoners (and the strained definitions) of US military forces are supposed to be treated with dignity and afforded protection from abuse from each other and guards.
>>70021020
Everyone says Guantanamo but what really happened there that was so bad? From what ive heard all it was is basically a prison for terrorist's not a war crime
>>70018477
>USA
>Warcrimes
are you kidding me?
>>70021331
Saddam was a bad guy who killed thousands of people was it really a war crime to overthrow him and his government?
>>70021447
Some rapey stuff, lots of waterboarding, some weird assplay stuff, long-term imprisonment of individuals without any sort of trial (some sit for years)
It's not even the worst site we operate, but it's the one with the worst press. At this point it should be shut down for reputation alone, and its workload moved to other lesser-known facilities.
>>70018951
>heroes
>>70021437
>adding extra laws to your military because the geneva convention just wasn't enough to cuck you into complete disfunction
well played. i concede.
>>70021433
what am i looking at here?
>>70020656
They douche assholes with wine breh.
>>70018477
Can someone do the pasta WE MURRICANS ARE ITCHING FOR A WAR vs Irak.
>>70021286
Civil nations should have rules that apply especially to themselves and how they act IMO. Or don't even bother separating yourself from the savages who cut peoples heads off and burn them alive.
>>70018759
Salam turkbro. How are things in turkey?
>>70021510
So no?
>>70021757
The 35th president
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMbmdFOvTs
>>70018477
>muslims
>human
Nah, we might have committed animal cruelty but I've never heard of animal cruelty when taking care of invasive animals.
>>70018477
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJC1unnuwds
>Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.
>To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:
>(a) Violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture;
>(b) Taking of hostages;
>(c) Outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating and degrading treatment;
>(c) Outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating and degrading treatment;
>(c) Outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating and degrading treatment;
>(c) Outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating and degrading treatment;
(d) The passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without previous judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples.
War crimes
>Punishing people/countries for being too good at war
>>70021777
>wine
not champagne?
>>70018951
'heroes' more like torpedo
>>70021872
JFK was a great man who was willing to die for his country unlike you..... fucking pussy
>war crimes
>a country is good at war
>punish them for it
Kek
>>70022151
Since war crimes only applied to loser nations it really is only a punishment if you suck at war, I.e. The Germans, the Serbs, the Japanese
>>70021954
Im not a fan of Muslims but we still shouldn't excuse war crimes
>>70021733
>just wasn't enough to cuck you into complete disfunction
>German schooling an burger on cuckoldry.
Thank you for the laugh!
I burger you Deustchbro. With all my cheese. <3
>>70022046
What is your point anon?
>>70022151
No more like punishing people for breaking the Geneva convention and doing horrible things
>>70022316
Yeah, JFK did die for this country. People in the military die for the banks.
Our government abandoned us a long time ago.
>>70022192
Is pretty much the same, carbonated wine and plain wine. As the gif shows this one is done with sparkling wine, i was dissapointed that the guy did not try to catch some with his mouth i know i would have if the champagne had been a Veuve Clicquot.
>>70022288
Are you proud of this you fucking kike?
>>70022288
kek
>>70022886
Absolutely. Never seen a nation so much cucked. Imagine the irony that the missile that hit the ship was most likely funded by your tax money
>>70022943
The fact that you laugh at our soldiers who died shows that you might be more then just a pussy you might actually be a traitor, nothing is worse then someone who hates his own country you are literally sub-human
>>70022976
GREATEST ALLY
I love it!
>>70018477
Probably. Winner writes the rules :)
>>70018477
>war crimes
>captured soldiers
>war crimes
>muslims
Haha no.
fuck you and fuck the geneva convention
when they behead your soldiers and civilians
you are free to do with theirs whatever you want
>>70023089
Somebody is triggered
>>70023089
I actually love the constitution that we've abandoned so..... no. You're wrong. Yeah, what we today consider to be America I'm not a big fan of. Most of our ridiculous "luxuries" are not worth all the lies and loss of liberty.
I laugh at the fact that people like you are so proud of a country that doesn't even belong to you. I laugh at the fact that I'm somehow "unamerican" because I'm disgusted by how we've lost our ways.
>>70022976
It probably had a great big 'Made in America' stamped on the side
>>70023317
But at the same time we were always destined for this.
>>70020481
>>70023219
No the rules are already written about the code of conduct in war
>>70023229
Im just asking mate so far no one has showed me any evidence that the US committed any actual war crimes
>>70022288
Shouldn't you be helping your Jew friends move your airport further south to hide from Hezbollah rockets?
I'm surprised you get time off to browse 4chan.
>current year
>people still actually care about war crimes as if they actually matter
To the victor goes the spoils cucks.
>>70018477
Did Saddam commit atrocities?
>>70023282
>saving a thumbnail
Not only are you a faggot but you're also a new faggot and probably a butthurt Muslim
>>70018759
If it wasn't them your shitty country wouldn't even exist.
Typical turk
>>70023721
Yep, gassed the Kurds with weapons the US gave them, committed torture using methods taught by the CIA, waged a war of aggression on Kuwait and Iran (with US backing)
>>70022434
the last paragraph related to passing of sentences.
>that tank team had no authority to 1) say there was a crime commited, 2) pass judgement on the 'criminals without due legal process', and 3) carry out the sentence they concocted.
>in addition it could be successfully argued there was an outrages upon the man's personal dignity, and the tank team meted out some humiliating and degrading treatment.
That's my point.
This thread just proves how fucking dumb military men are. They don't belong in /pol/. They should all just go hide in /fa/ or /fit/.
>>70024324
So the video is considered a war crime then?
Pretty shitty war crime tbqh
>>70020656
Why?
>>70018477
>war
>crimes
I never understood this logic 2bh
>>70018564
THIS
>>70025502
>b-but you didn't play by da rules :'(
pussy euro logic
>>70018477
Yes
>>70025502
Acts which are against the Geneva convention its pretty simple
>>70025675
like what?
>>70025669
America complained about it when the Japanese or Vietnamese captured US personal and tortured the fuck out of them, a lot of Americans still get butthurt whenever it gets brought up
>>70025710
In the middle of war time though? War is illegal, right?
>>70025983
Two nukes and firebombing seems pretty fair to me for the shit we've done to each other. I couldn't care less if nips got hungry and ate the leg meat off of dead Americans
>>70018564
I agree wholeheartedly
>>70018477
The entire war was a war crime, literally.
>>70018477
No.
Muslims are not people and thus do not have rights to be violated.
>>70018667
You need to ask?
>>70026438
Not really most of the western world participated in the Iraq war
>>70026503
A War crime is a war crime anon
>>70026512
Yes no one in this thread can point to any specific war crime that the US committed
>>70026438
I guess Steven Harper is a war criminal then because he sent cucknadians to aid us
>>70026189
The Japanese actually practiced bayoneting skills on US Armed Forces personnel and kept them in tiger cages and didn't feed and killed the injured who couldn't be made to be worked to death. Is that ok treatment for your soldiers?
>>70018477
>War Crimes
what a meme
I'm amazed anyone believes that meme.
You do whatever the fuck is needed during a war, it's a fucking war, there's no laws.
Fucking cucks and their "war crimes"
>>70026890
In a time of war? Anything goes imo. I'm not gonna be the faggot who cries about shit that's happening. Against my countrymen or not. It's war.
>>70027060
Civilized countries fight wars within the rules of the Geneva convention
>>70027247
>Civilized countries fight wars within the rules of the Geneva convention
top kek
why even do that ?
you're civilized, make it a fencing duel with the best man of each country.
whoever wins the duel gets the other's country.
5/8 made me reply
>>70027060
I think its hilarious that people think the geneva convention means jack shit. I guarantee you if the US started using chemical weapons nobody on the world stage would say anything because they know we can't be stopped. War and diplomacy are about force, and with enough of it a group could do anything
>>70027424
>make it a fencing duel with the best man of each country.
That would be pretty cool tbqh
>>70026637
It wasn't exactly a war either.
Rules only work when both sides play by them.
You think you can win a game of chess against somebody who cheats no matter how well you play?
Case in point: everyone tried to follow their retarded RoE and obey conventions and international laws while their opponents filled IEDs with broken glass and feces, strapped them to children then injured said children so they would be taken to hospital where they would then explode.
You can't fight a war like that, and guess what, we lost.
Both sides must abide by the rules and codes of conduct if they want to be treated in kind, but we were fighting sub-human savages in a guerrilla war, not a conventional war against an industrial nation.
You'd think we would have got the picture after Vietnam but we then made the same mistakes several more times.
Muslims need to be crushed, if they don't obey international law and the Geneva convention and rules of engagement or even give enemy soldiers and prisoners basic human rights then nor should we.
>>70023594
I doubt they attacked civilians there so probably not.
>>70027223
What if you had a son or a father who was a soldier and you realized this was how he was degraded and murdered while helpless?
>>70027770
Would be a good motivator to join the war effort and get out there myself. You know what you're getting yourself into.
>>70018951
And still you threat them like shit
>>70020187
Are you 13?
>>70028015
We're not all liberals who think that. In fact, I like Trumps take on that. Completely redo the VA
>>70019857
>How are they cowards if they actually served in combat?
They went out to shoot sandniggers who's tech is at least 30 years behind ours, if not more.
We're basically an army of Predators compared to them, so don't give me that shit.
>>70027534
War needs to be fought within the rules of the Geneva convention thats why it was created in the first place
>>70028015
You mean the government treats them like shit?
>>70028323
>War needs to be fought within the rules of the Geneva convention thats why it was created in the first place
lmao what a cuck
>>70028323
That implies everyone follows the "rules" which is hardly the case.
>>70025420
Eh sometimes about absorbing fluids through your asshole. Possible alcohol poisoning.
>>70027868
Seeing hospitals bombed and their countrymen treated like animals a good motive for an Iraqi or Syrian to sneak a dirty bomb into Washington and rip it to shreds.
>>70028558
True. And 2bh? I don't blame them.
>>70028281
I don't see your point. How does that make them cowards?
>>70018617
Guess you don't understand international law, ceasefire treaties, or UNSC resolutions.
It's okay tho. #FeeltheBern
>>70028558
But there lies the problem. How're you gonna sneak a dirty bomb into Washington anyways?
>>70018477
Geneva convention does not protect terrorists.
>>70028511
Civilized countries follow the rules of the Geneva convention thats the difference between us and savages, it gives us the moral high ground
>>70022976
Absolutely based
>>70029226
Giving us the moral high ground? Lel. Who cares about morality in a time of fucking war? Jesus... do you think our enemies show morality? No.
>>70029226
There's no point having a moral high ground if you lose.
I'm sure having the moral high ground will help us when we're all dead.
>>70029128
Is this true? I thought the Geneva convention applied for any war.....
>>70020187
You're knowledge of military affairs isn't even CoD-tier. Shit, at this point playing vidya may actually teach you something.
>>70018477
>only iraq
>>70028940
Could just continue to do stuff like this against soft targets. It's war right, anything goes. Why shouldn't they attack soft targets?
>>70029724
An eye for an eye. Personally we shouldn't even be in the middle east anymore. Let Russia handle it as they're doing more than obummer has.
>>70020187
Your perception of modern warfare is staggeringly inaccurate, as well as your perception of the AA. Undisciplined pieces of shit who are stoned all the time and retreat as soon as they take contact.
Is the Space Pope reptilian?
>>70028551
Who the fuck dies from a bottle of champagne?
>>70019074
You don't remember the three GIs who broke into a family's house, killed the parents, raped the 14yr old daughter, then killed her?
Bad shit happens in war.
>>70029896
There will be blowback. Savagery only begets more savagery. It seems like the only people who suffer are the most vulnerable. The powerful and rich really don't give a shit.
>>70018759
Every time, its turkey trying to trigger americans by posting dead soldiers.
Probably butthhurt knowing that for every superior american soldier that died 100 subhuman, weak, ugly, low iq sandniggers like him got killed.
>>70020187
Are you retarded?
Do you not know how warfare works?
>>70030565
Yeah but thats an isolated incident not a large scale war crime just a crime that happened during war, not excusing it though thats fucked up
>>70031455
I pointed out specifically things that were done:
>>70019712
The very war itself would have fit under the context of a war of aggression by the Nuremberg standards.
>>70029475
Geneva applies to uniformed combatants, if you're an "insurgent" or whatever convenient term, you get nothing.
>>70021872
Just watched the whole thing. What an eloquent, well-spoken, truthful patriot JFK was. Probably the last president with a just heart. This is the speech that got him killed, I'll bet. He was so close to creating his own currency and abandoning the banks. Those in power couldn't have this happen. Those people laughing didn't know that JFK didn't tell a single joke.
