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Is there truth to this?
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>>69999442
LISTEN KIDS!
TODAY WERE GONNA LEARN ABOUT THE FÜHRER!!!!
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Sounds like liberals want to brainwash kids even more than they already do. Mind you I have noting against a giant overhaul of our school systems
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>>69999442
>Borowitz
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>>69999442
By "so many people ignorant enough to vote for Trump", he means people who haven't been properly indoctrinated by liberal teachers.
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>>69999531
American education system is a fucking joke and is only used as an indoctrination tool for leftists
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Teacher here.

Education is indoctrination.

We even studied Russian brainwashing experiments to figure out how to educate better.

It is very dangerous when you attempt to instill partisan political values into students as a core tenet of education, lest facts be left by the way side for being less important than having the correct opinion.

Education should, by its nature, be open-minded and lenient, even if the actual execution and funding is compulsory and the curriculum is regulated.

We cannot demand certain opinions of our students.
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>>69999442

100% true. Why would a working class bloke vote for a spoiled daddys rich guy and not for a working class-born guy from Brooklyn who offers you tuition free public college education. IT MAKES NO SENSE!
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>>69999442
Parents are coddling pussy or hands off losers that only want to show up when their demonseed causes trouble.
Teachers are pussies too afraid to fight back against school boards and shitty parents trying to run shit.
The kids are spoiled brats or gutter trash who don't want to be in school in the first place.
The curriculum is ass. Many school districts are going from a shit curriculum everyone knew how to teach to an even shitter curriculum that even the teachers are stumped by.
They aren't teaching things kids skills to survive they're teaching them to pass tests so their school keep their funds.
Liberals have a strangle hold on education, Conservative are no better because all they want to do is fill schools with religious garbage.
The US school system is a shit show and I pity any child that has to go through it.
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>>69999597
Fucking /pol/ is right again.
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>>69999597
Came here to say this....
Pay attention /pol/ god..
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>>69999442
>fix the current broken education by doing the exact thing as Obama

And we're the ignorant ones??
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>>70000396
>try to play hardball
>get nailed for child abuse
better safe than sorry
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if leftists feel the need to fix the educational system which they are fully in control of i guess they are just admitting to their own failure.
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>>69999442
it's liberal education that has created the backlash that is the Trump-movement. not even teachers in NORWAY can shut the fuck up about their leftist ideals and how Trump is like Hitler.
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>>70000733
That's the problem. Especially in middle and high school grades. These little fuckers are tiny adults. They have the capacity to be straight up thugs yet government tries to protect them because "underage".
When you have student that don't want to perform academically, that want to fight, fuck in the bathroom stalls, steal, break shit, et cetera, they shouldn't be allowed to stay in schools with other students that do the right things. Teacher should have to suffer and be victims in their own class rooms because the states and school boards are pussies and want to milk money from the federal government.
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>>69999442
>Borowitz
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>>69999442
>people are voting for people we dont like
>this is a serious problem that only us liberals are smart enough to fix
>we must vote for mass changes in regulation of the system we currently have in order to make people vote more liberal
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>>69999442
>by a jew
Nope.gif
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>>69999442
We all know what liberals mean when they run their mouths about being educated or education.
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>>69999442
Follow the Asian model and cut vacation time severely. That's really all we need to do
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>>70000151
>(you)
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>>70000139
Fag
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>>70001919
They don't even realize how fucking stupid they sound.
They say contradictory shit all the time.
>Don't tell me who to vote for fascist!
>Don't vote for Trump fascist!
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>>70002321
> Protect freedom of speech!
> No you can't speak about black crime, we'll censor your ass!
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>>69999442
I'm educated, I am in the final year of my med school, read much more about actuality, politics and history than my lefties friends (who spends their time entertaining themself with series and video games and never open a book) and after some reflexion I would vote for Trump if I was american.

I think Europe has shown that a heavy welfare policy DOES NOT WORK AT ALL unless you want to sink in debt our attract the poors of the third world.
Marxists and socialists can write as much theories as they want, twist the facts how they want, the truth who remains is that our societies are more and more divided between races and religion.
The multiculturalism is a huge failure, unless you are in a reality deny I can't understand how you can vote for the left today.
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>>69999442
>People disagree with us
>They need to be educated into agreeing
I've heard this shit a thousand times and every time I press them on it they end up admitting they mean coercion.
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>>70000139
The best education system is the one who develop critical thinking as Descartes said.
It is less and less the case because PC police prevent people to ask question.
I remember when I was a kid in the late 90's, we got something called "civic education" who basically yelled "RACISM=BAD, "NATIONALISM=BAD", etc...
The day you begin to ask yourself question about the deep meaning of these values everything fall like a house of card.

I mean, just ask at someone you know why racism is bad and why does it exist in our way of thinking.
You will probably only find 1 person out of 100 capable of defending the "Racism=bad" with reasonable arguments, the other will just keep splutter something about Hitler, slaves or other incoherent things because they have no fucking clue about why they have this belief.
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>>69999933
As someone who only graduated two years ago I can vouch for this, not a single thing was tought I didn't already know besides math past 6th grade, and how to feel bad for being white
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The reason trump is winning is a direct result of liberal ""education""
People are tired of everything being racist/homophobic and the left has had their anti-white bias brought out into the limelight
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>>69999442
He's close

we need to figure out what the fuck went wrong in this country to make people believe trump would make america great again
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>>>>>>>>>Borowitz
/pol/ was right again.
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>>69999442
>How do I reach these keeeds
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>>69999442
>"the education system indoctrinates children with the traditional western values of freedom and individuality and we need to change it to indoctrinate them with the traditional third world values of submission and collectivism."

Hes right from his point of view
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>>69999442
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/25/fashion/sundaystyles/the-festival-of-loot.html
>By ANDY BOROWITZDEC. 25, 2005
> I should probably clarify that. I am Jewish in the sense that I have Jewish parents and a Jewish last name
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>>70004365
>ANDY BOROWITZDEC
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Real education is the based classical method--the trivium.

Grammar, logic and rhetoric.

Then the quadrivium of math etc.

Fuck US public education.
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>>69999442
Education does need fixing. As someone win an education degree that has observed the situations of wide spread of schools with varying finance levels, there are a lot of problems other than just funding. We spend far too much useful time standardized testing, just for one thing.
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>>70004788
That hook nose gives him away
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>>69999442
>we gotta do a better job or brainwashing children so they will vote for who we like
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>>69999442
top fucking kek

stupid racist liebereals who hate Whites
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>>69999597
aah
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>>70003454
>make a facebook post titled "Explain to me why racism is bad"
>get mass of comments saying im an evil racist hitler
>a lot of them find out where I work and spam my boss so I get fired over it. "We cant have that sort of attitude here at Peter and Dick's Inc"
>mother calls crying "I can't believe I failed in raising you right"
>family disowns me
>girlfriend leaves me after explaining "I just cant even right now with you"
>word spreads around town
>your house gets regularly vandalized
>the local cops always harass you with constant stops every time you try to leave your house for a drive
>try to walk down the street as people yell vulgar things at you. Some even spit on or hit you.
>word spreads farther, now national TV news regularly runs reports on you being a KKK Grand Dragon while BLM calls for your assassination
>can no longer find employment and soup kitchens turn you away because they refuse to feed hatred
>as you're about to succumb to hunger, you decide to just end it all since there's nothing left for you in the world
>after humanely shooting all your pets, you're about to end your own life when suddenly a pack of troubled youths burst in and gun you down
>you have "Racist" and "#BLM" spray painted over your body as your house is thoroughly looted
>news reports around the world herald your death as a sign that peace and love can still conquer evil
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>>70003454

I'm not sure we should expect more from the masses.

The idea of there being no objective measure of good or evil, and things boiling down to arbitrary/popular choice is too much for most people to comprehend.
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By the way, my friend who posted this is Jewish ;)
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Andy Boro-
>witz
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>>69999442

>anyone who disagrees with me is simply uneducated :^)

height of pretentiousness tbqh
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>>70002496
No, actually libs want free speech banned
cant find my chart on the support of repealing the first amendment
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>>69999999

>>70000000

I want to see the digits but yes education needs to change. More independent study, less teaching to tests, let the niggers fail and the cream rise to the top
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>>69999442
This sort of shit is why I hate the left. Whenever someone is not left enough, they immediately start dehumanizing them. I grew up with this sort of shit going on constantly.

And it's so goddamn stupid in its own right. Fucking education doesn't fix anything, except make people capable of working better. Knowing more about the world does precious little to change people's beliefs. Absolute bucketloads of Islamic terrorists are highly educated, including those tow idiots who attacked Glasgow airport with a bomb, and only succeeded in setting themselves on fire. One of them was a doctor. Huh, so being highly educated doesn't dislodge crazy thoughts, and neither does it makes you able to build a bomb, in the way many uneducated people can.

But they're not even talking about proper education. They're talking about ideological "education", that tells people WHAT to think, not HOW to think.

The left is full of shit. Leftist thought has time and again proven to be extremely harmful to education. But true what I just said, they don't take a page from their own book and look at it objectively. Oh no, crazy ideas are more sticky than that. So they make data disappear, they plainly don't acknowledge it, or just make shit up to make it seem like their ideology is working.

The left needs to go.
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>ignorant
Candidate for the worst modern buzzword

As if not agreeing with someone implicitly means you haven't seen it from their point of view
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>>70000511
Pretty sure that pic is a south african.
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>>70003454
This. I left normal schooling in year 10 because of the way it's going. They all want you to shut up, listen and not complain. If you start asking questions or getting in arguments with teachers, people automatically escalate them into full on shitfests and in the end you get suspended.

I started working the day I left school. I have a damn nice in a comfortable suburb of Brisbane, a wife, and two kids. The horror stories of "YOU'LL END UP A DRUGGIE DEAD IN A SEWER IF YOU DON'T SPEND 8 YEARS IN UNIVERSITY" that got pounded into my head in high school were false and only served to intensify the will for me to not continue.

Really, the problem with western education is that it expects everyone in it to be exactly the same. I was a little shit in school who "didn't learn much", but the moment I left it all of my formerly bad traits turned into good ones.

I was easily irritable, so I turned that into the ability to shut up and get to work. I was extremely active and found it hard to sit down, so I found a job where I could run around and do shit to my heart's content. I argued a lot, so I found a technical job where I could argue with people who could actually take criticism.

Most kids in high school nowadays are most likely going to end up permanently scarred, put into extremely bad jobs/living arrangements, and end up with thousands in debt by the time they're 25. High Schools only serve to scare people into making the "right" decisions, those decisions fucking them over in the end.

I'm glad I'm out of high school now. If I was in it to year 12 I would most likely be in prison or dead.
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>>69999442
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>>70012208
Incredibly insightful post. I was also pushed to university by high school. Spent a year in traditional university where I fucked around and dropped out after a year. Went to a technical school after that and got a 2 year degree in computer programming. Got a shot right after graduation making a pretty decent wage.

I didn't even fucking know tech schools existed while in high school because it was just expected I'd go to university and spend gorillions on some stupid fucking degree.

The education system is fucked.
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>>69999442

Adding cultural marxism will certainly solve this problem. Also pandering transgenders, niggers and pretty much everything other then normal people will solve this in school.
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>>69999442
Pretty obvious that currently in the US they are completely brainwashing kids.. it's the ones not completely brainwashed that clearly like trump, so it's actually the other way around, they need to stop educating these dirtbags in america who don't want to vote for trump, cause they're the ignorant ones.

America you have to realize that from outside of the US what is going on with your leftists is absolutely insane.. aside from sweden ofcourse who's government has completely lost its mind.
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>>70013203
And i'm not even saying it to be funny, these people are completely brainwashed. But they think what they've been taught is the correct way to be.
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>>69999442

"This candidate is evidence democracy has failed! We need to do everything to make sure this person is not elected. But more than this we need to change our educational system so the population is indoctrinated to think like us and never vote against our interests."

These people probably think they're not fascists.

That warms the cockles of my cock.
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>>69999442
reminder that trump wants to fix the educational system
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>>69999442
It's fucked but it also generates hundreds upon millions of dollars from the stupid decisions of high school kids who can't into critical thinking.
You aren't going to stop a system like that.
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>>69999442
Yes, democrats want country wide brain washing in their """"education"""" facilities.
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>>69999442
leftists cant even figure out how to get inner city blacks to graduate from highschool. somehow they are going to suddenly "fix" the school systems that they have built and shaped for decades.

let me guess: the solution is throwing more money at the problem.
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>>69999442
>Andy Borowitz was born on January 4, 1958 in Cleveland, Ohio, USA. He is known for his work on The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air (1990)

oh I am laffin
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>>70000139
But would you teach kids to question and criticise capitalism?
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