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Winning has been Donald Trump’s cure for all of his failings this campaign. But while his failings have been on full display this week, a Wisconsin win on Tuesday looks unlikely.

Trump trails Ted Cruz in each of the last six major polls, including a Marquette University Law School survey last week that put Cruz in first place with 40 percent of the GOP primary vote, leading Trump by 10 percentage points.

If those results hold, Cruz would not only win Wisconsin, but he’d take the lion’s share of the state’s 42 delegates thanks to Wisconsin’s “winner-take-most” primary rules. Those are delegates Trump badly needs to stay on a narrow path toward the 1,237 delegates required to clinch the GOP nomination before a possible contested convention.

And Trump’s chase for 1,237 has taken on new urgency last week, as Trump’s rivals repeatedly outfoxed him in the behind-the-scenes struggle to install favorable convention delegates in state after state and Trump himself courted fresh controversy with Republican primary voters.

None of this is new for Trump. In the run-up to the election, Trump answered every critique with his surging poll numbers. And since the voting began, his string of wins and massive delegate lead has been an effective rebuttal to anyone attempting to pick apart his political heterodoxies and disorganized campaign. But his campaign faces fresh problems ahead of the only primary contest for the next two weeks.

The problems only got worse over the weekend. In Tennessee, where delegates will be able to vote freely after two ballots at the convention, the Trump campaign accused party officials of making a last-minute push to approve anti-Trump delegates. Trump supporters rushed a party meeting where delegates were being selected, but the party voted its slate through anyway.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/trump-is-in-trouble-in-wisconsin-221552#ixzz44x6NxYVU
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>>69989478
Good. The time for fooling around is over.

Voters want sanity and integrity. Voters want Ted Cruz.
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>Politico
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>>69989563
Exactly! Wisconsin will put an end to the freak show that is Trump's campaign.
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>>69989563
>sanity and integrity
>not voting based Clinton
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Trump and Cruz have been consistently tied and the poll with the highest sample size and the lowest margin of error shows Trump winning.

The Marquette poll has a margin of error of 6 and less than 500 sample size.

The newer polls show Trump higher than he was last week.

Trump overperforms in primaries, Cruz cannot win non-caucuses.

Trump is expected to get 1281 delegates even if he gets 0 delegates in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, he wasn't supposed to win Wisconsin in the first place.
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>>69989715
>Trump is expected to get 1281 delegates
No, he isn't.
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>>69989563
I'm no Trump fan (I'm a Berner,) but Cruz is literally no better than Trump is. Cruz is a radical christian extremist with no chance in a general election.
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>>69989478
Cruz will win Wisconsin. the cheese niggers there are cucked to high heaven, just like Minnesota and the mid-western shit-holes that have spurned Trump too.

But Trump will bounce back in New York and then there are very few Cruz cuck states left after that.
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>>69989917

>I'm a Berner

Assuming this isn't bait, how do you people find your way to this place?
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>>69990041
>how do you people find your way to this place?
I've been here long before Bernie started running for President. There have always been liberals here. I was probably shilling for Elizabeth Warren before Bernie decided to run because she was my first pick.
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>>69990182
You mean Elizabeth Warren the liar? Shit taste son.
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>>69990236
>muh indian
You Republitards always focus on the dumbest shit. I focus on the issues and the excellent job she has done representing me (as a citizen of Massachusetts) in the Senate.

>Liar
Hilarious coming from a Trump supporter. What a joke.
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>>69989715
>and Pennsylvania
Been calling and emailing delegates in my district to see who they're leaning with. I've heard back from 6 out of 10. Of those 6, 2 are pro-Trump, but said they'd support whoever our district decides on, 2 are hinting Cruz, 1 hasn't given any hint, and another said he'd go with whoever won the state... But I largely distrust the last one.

Thinking about contacting ALL delegates in the state and making a spreadsheet for PA voters.
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>>69990182
How does it feel to be retarded?
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>>69989478
>increasinglynervousememe.jpg
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>>69990388
>go against muh /pol/ hivemind
>that makes me retarded
okay kiddo.
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Trump has no hope of winning wisconsin. He should be focusing his efforts on New York and Commiefornia. If he doesn't win both of those states, he may as well either drop out or announce a third party run cause he sure as hell won't get the Republican nomination.
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>>69990509
You post images by pressing the "browse button" m8. they don't show up if you just paste the filename like that.
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>>69989478
>the #1 guy so far ahead of #2 and #3 isn't far ahead enough for him to be accepted as the rightful winner
>democracy
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>>69990650

Well, supporting Webb or something would be going against the hivemind but wouldn't label you a retard.

Supporting Hernie, on the other hand...
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>>69990650
>he wants a woman to lead him or if the woman is not available he wants a literal communist
>he posts anime reaction images

You should get a doc to check your test levels.
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>>69990682
>he may as well either drop out
When he is going to finish with the most delegates, even if it is not a majority? That would be stupid. He needs to dare the Republican fag leaders to try and give the nomination to someone else. They won't have the balls.

>third party run
Nah, he can't win as a third party candidate. He would just make himself look bad.
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The shilling on this thread is worse than the MSM. All recent polls have Trump/Cruz within 3 points, only polling republicans. Cross over voting allowed in Wisconsin.

Trump is winning Wisconsin faggots.
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What's the GOP endgame here? A religious zealot like Cruz has no shot in the general election, and taking the nomination away from both Trump and Cruz would lead to a shitstorm of unimaginable proportions. I still think the only mistake Trump has made so far is to try to appeal more to those far right evangelical nutjobs that normal conservatives hate anyway.
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>>69989478
>>69989563
Go away.
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>>69991055
>Trump is winning Wisconsin faggots
Trump does well with gays, but there aren't enough of them in Wisconsin to get him over the line m8. Too many cucked evangelicals voting for Cruz.
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>>69990308
I disagree fundamentally with most of Warren's positions, but it's hard to find fault with some of the consumer protection work she's done. What else as she done that makes you support her?
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>>69989563
You all laughed at me and my fellow Australians for supporting the real conservative candidate in the race, Ted Cruz. Well who's laughing now?

Once he wins Wisconsin it's only up from there as Ted takes it to the white house!

#Cruzmissile
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>>69990939
I don't decide who to support based on what /pol/ thinks. Webb is not a progressive, therefore he doesn't get my support.

>>69990991
Why should it matter what her gender is? Fuck off, retard.
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>>69991254
She's a strong advocate in the Senate Banking Committee and regularly supports public policy that I approve of. Also, she's a much better messenger than Bernie is, which is why I wanted her to run for the nomination. She would have destroyed Hillary in the primaries.
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Ever since I started using this Hong Kong proxy I never get any (you)s. It's like I don't even exist.

Is this what it is like being Asian in real life?
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>>69991353
Yes because women are stupid and weak which is why you identify with them.
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>>69991635
>Identify with women
When the fuck did I ever say I "identify with women"? Quit projecting, you retard. I don't vote based on silly identity politics like insecure fucks like you. I vote based on issues and who I think can win. Warren has both of those locked down.
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>>69990993
>He needs to dare the Republican fag leaders to try and give the nomination to someone else. They won't have the balls.
Establishment Republicans have said they'd rather have a Hillary presidency over a Trump presidency. Hillary is at least owned by the same Masters and will continue neocon world police policies.
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>>69991561
Fair enough I suppose.

>>69991736
>I don't vote based on silly identity politics
>>69991353
>Webb is not a progressive, therefore he doesn't get my support.
You're kind of contradicting yourself there.
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>>69991736
Everybody votes with who they identify with whether they do it consciously or not. The policies you like are the ones a woman would hold or a cuckold communist who is basically a women too.
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>>69991838
They talk a big game m8. But when they are facing having to put their dicks on the line and do it they will prove impotent. Too many Republicans would hate them for it.
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25-28 delegates is the target

Anything over is YUGE
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>>69989620
>Clinton
>Integrity

huh?
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>>69991911
Progressive refers to someone who subscribes to a particular ideology, or more accurately a particular view on the role of government. That's why I don't consider it "identity politics" - The issue isn't who they are, it's what they believe. Using the label "progressive" is simply a convenient way to shift through the options.

>>69991941
>The policies you like are the ones a woman would hold or a cuckold communist who is basically a women too
Time to grow up, kiddo.
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>>69989563
>sanity and integrity
>Ted Cruz
Pick one.
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>>69990682
California isn't until June and he's ahead by like 50% in NY.
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>>69992245
>That's why I don't consider it "identity politics" - The issue isn't who they are, it's what they believe.
But most "progressives"(I use quotations because I don't find anything particularly progressive in their thoughts and actions) are often strict adherants to identity politics, so forgive me if you're the exception.
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>>69989478
That Trump is not going to be the nominee is OLD, OLD news.

The RNC's Fabian strategy will work. They're never going to be able to defeat Trump in the open, so they'll prop one stooge up in this state and the other stooge up in that state just to keep him even marginally away from 1,237.

Once they get to the convention they'll give it to, in my humble opinion, Rubio. But admittedly it will be total chaos at that point. The only certainties are that it won't be Trump, and it definitely won't be Cruz, and it definitely won't be Kasich.

They will do all of these things because they can, and there is nothing Trump or anyone else can do to stop them.

The good news is that elections are not just something you can wipe away with jury ass rigged insider conventions. Elections are a motherfucking force of nature. The RNC isn't just going to get away with discounting there will be repercussions. Just as every physical action has an equal and opposite reaction, there will be some repercussions for the discounting of all these primary results.

I know Donald Trump said there will be riots. I don't think there will be riots. But I know that I heard from some talking head stooge on that subject "we don't riot", as if to say white people don't riot. We do riot, we definitely do riot but when we riot we don't just throw bricks through windows we drop bombs through roofs. So when white people decide to overthrow the tyrants its going to be like that. Its not going to be anything less than total war. But hey its just going to be like really 'fun' according to John Kasich.

But personally I think they parachute Rubio in there and nobody does anything about it and we four years of Hillary during which the FBI and the NSA and other authoritarian agencies of the government openly revolt and best case scenario she get impeached and worse case scenario again war.

Damned if we do damned if we don't boys. Thats where we're at.
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>>69992454
No, it will be Cruz. The establishment has already started to endorse him.
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>>69992245
>growing up means turning into a submissive woman

What do your balls do anyway? Are they like decorational ornaments with no function?
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>>69992615
If the establishment is endorsing anyone right now its only because they know what a kiss of death their endorsement is. If they don't give it to to Trump then they have burned the house down. They are not going to stand there in the charred remains of democracy just so they can give it to to Ted Cruz. They're going to at least give it to the guy they want the most, which is Rubio, but it could also be Jeb, or Ryan.
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>>69992454
beta cuckservatives are incapable of rioting
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Everybody prepare for intense shilling today.

DON'T BUY INTO SUBVERSION!
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>>69993298
Not really. They have given up the election already. They're in damage control mode and anyone but Trump will do as the nominee.
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>>69989563
>>69989598
>>69991258
these

I'm voting for Cruz now
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Now that his campaign is over, what will his concession speech be?
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>>69994624
Its true but why would they settle for rat when they could have filet mignon? If nobody gets 1,237 then they can give it to anybody. If they can give it to anybody why would they choose Ted Cruz? Its easy, they wouldn't.
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>>69995886
Because some people actually voted for Cruz.
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>>69995886
>If nobody gets 1,237

Newsflash: they could change that rule as well. There is nothing preventing them from doing so.
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What's /pol/ gonna do when Trump is robbed of the nomination and decides not to run independent? What if he endorses Rubio or whoever is given the GOP nomination?
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>>69996225
The undoubtedly will if Trump gets there but I doubt that he gets there.

>>69996142
More people voted for Trump. You're trampling on democracy just as much with Ted Cruz as you are with Rubio.
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>>69996837
>More people voted for Trump
More people voted for "someone other than trump" than they did for Trump, so it's not like he even has a majority of the votes, desu
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>>69996837
>You're trampling on democracy

Newsflash: America is not a democracy.
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>>69989563
>>69989598
you know we can tell you're responding to yourself Australia.
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>>69996744
>What's /pol/ gonna do when Trump is robbed of the nomination and decides not to run independent? What if he endorses Rubio or whoever is given the GOP nomination?

Trump won't be able to get on the ballot by that time in most states.

You either vote for Hillary or Paul Ryan. Take your pick idiots.
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>>69989478

Trump can still get to 1237 without Wisconsin.

This is all anti-Trump fear mongering.
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>>69991097
>What's the GOP endgame here?

Brokered convention which will allow the establishment to change the rules of the convention and nomination process and then they will appoint Paul Ryan as their nominee.
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>>69997045
>Trump can still get to 1237 without Wisconsin.

See>>69996225
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>>69996932

while I continue to see this excuse, the simple fact of the matter is, those people who voted for other candidates all could have voted for someone else. but they didn't. that's their fault.
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>>69989800

closer to 1330.
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>>69997054
>Paul Ryan as their nominee.

Paul Ryan is more conservative than Trump, so he would be better for the base.
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>>69996954
Im saying in people's perspectives. It does not look any better for the RNC, and it does not feel any better to give the nomination to Cruz who came in second place than it does to give it to Rubio who came in 4th place or Paul Ryan who didn't even run. There is only one tenet of democracy: whoever gets the most votes wins. Once you've thrown that tenet out you can do whatever you want.
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Rednecks BTFO

Ivanka to the Rape List!!!
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>>69992454
>But personally I think they parachute Rubio

There has been a lot of media focus right now around Paul Ryan. He has said 5 times though not interested. But, remember when Speaker of the House was up, he said no over and over and eventually took it anyways.

Paul Ryan is their guy. Your assessment in using delegates to stop Trump of 1237 is right on.
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>>69997144
>Paul Ryan is more conservative than Trump

Paul Ryan is a stooge that is bought and paid for.
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>>69997144
Paul Ryan takes kike cock, so no thank you.
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>>69997054
>Paul Ryan as their nominee
Why would Paul Ryan want the poisoned chalice?

There is no way a GOP candidate can win if Trump and his supporters get screwed over.

No-one with future ambitions would want the nomination in those. They will have to find someone old and done. Romney or Kasich maybe.
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>>69997304

>Paul Ryan is a stooge that is bought and paid for.

And more conservative than Trump. Thanks for proving my point.

>>69997327
>Paul Ryan takes kike cock, so no thank you.

And Trump doesn't? His daughter is a Jewish for crying out load.
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>>69997388
>There is no way a GOP candidate can win if Trump and his supporters get screwed over.

There is no way they can win if Trump IS the nominee as all the polls show. They just want to save the Senate at this point.
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>>69989478

If Trump wins WI is anyone else concerned they're going to assassinate him? They seem desperate as fuck.
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>>69997388
In half of the instances in which losing presidential candidates re-emerged as the nominee, they've gone on to the White House. So it's not that far-out that Ryan would accept a doomed Presidential bid in order to build his national profile, then try again later.
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>>69989478
Drunk cousin fuckers in Wisconsin don't like trump and want welfare and free stuff
WHO WOULD HAVE KNOWN.
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Trump is +10 in the last Wisconsin poll

this has Missouri feels all over it... Cruz was up in the polls prior to that vote, and through meme magic he beat ratboy

you'll see a repeat tonight
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They are downwind from Minnesota and have a socialist football team they will probably vote Kasich.
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>>69997388
They fucking LOVE Mitt Romney I will say that. Mitt Romney to them looks like a blonde babe with huge tits. And I don't mean like Romney's policies look good to them I mean the man himself. Their minds are so addled from all the years of secret societies, and all the bum paddlings, and the male authoritarian culture of scheming that they grew up in that Mitt Romney's physical appearance is actually alluring to them. So yeah it could easily, easily be Romney as well.
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>>69997590
>If Trump wins WI is anyone else concerned they're going to assassinate him?

Put down the conspiracy theories edge lord. Trump is part of the billionaire class and attended the Koch brothers meetings. He's 100% pro-oligarchy. They just don't like him because he'll lose badly for the GOP.
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>>69990308
Mass faggot
HURR DURR LISTEN TO ME IM IMPORTANT
CAAAAAR
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>>69997514
>the polls show
m8 come on. everyone knows those sort of hypothetical match-up polls are bullshit.

When Trump hits Hillary the bitch is going to take a lot of damage.
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>>69989478
I'm from Milwaukee and I just voted for Trump.
My polling place in the hood, but out of the few white people there, one of them wore a MAGA hat.
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>>69997791
>everyone knows those sort of hypothetical match-up polls are bullshit.

That's why Mitt Romney won in a landslide over Obama right?
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>>69997594
>then try again later
He will have earned too much resentment from the Trump faction. It is a poisoned chalice. Anyone who takes it will destroy their career. They will probably lose to a primary challenger next go round too.
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>>69994729
Well done. One kangaroo scotum has been deposited in your bank of barbeyshrimp account.
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>>69997876
If I was a Republican, and it was up to me, I'd go with Romney. He's already shown he can compete. Maybe he didn't win, but he can compete. As a Democrat, a Romney candidacy makes me nervous.
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>>69998115
If you were a cock you'd go for the biggest homo ever gotcha
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>>69989715
>the poll with the highest sample size and the lowest margin of error shows Trump winning.
That's just not true. Look, I'm hoping that Trump wins Wisconsin but it only makes us look as bad as bernouts when we seem misinformed. Check out the polls here:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/wi/wisconsin_republican_presidential_primary-3763.html
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>>69998199
>If you were a cock you'd go for the biggest homo ever gotcha
Wow, that's quite an insightful and intelligent comment. Thanks for your contribution.
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Let's face it, the only way this ends is with Trump winning
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>>69997737
People keep saying Trump would lose to Hillary.

I just don't buy it however. Trump, more so than any other of the Republicans in the race, has the potential to pull moderate male democrats.

The male half of the species really doesn't trust Hillary. If they're given even a half-way defensible alternative, most of them will take it.
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>>69998392
>Trump
>Half-way defensible alternative
You lost me there.
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>>69998333
>Let's face it, the only way this ends is with Trump winning

We could only hope, but really, we need to just get out of there with delegates to help get to 1237.
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>>69989478

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

WISCONSINITE HERE.

I'LL BE VOTING FOR TED CRUZ.

ONE LESS VOTE FOR YOUR PATHOLOGICAL, EMOTIONAL MAN CHILD OF A "LEADER".

HAHAHA GET FUCKED FAGGOTS. THANK WISCONSIN FOR BEING THE LAST STRONGHOLD IN DEMOCRATIC SANITY.

TRUMP FAGGOTS BTFO.
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>>69998513

its old tho, fambly.

a lot has happened since two weeks ago
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>>69998514
how are they btfo'd?
kek please calm down kiddo, its not like your singular vote would make a damn difference
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>>69998514

terrible bait.

unless you post a pic of mail or something.
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I'm gonna respond to this guy

>>69998513

and this guy

>>69998586

And ignore the attention-seeking asshole in between :^)

NO (YOU) FOR YOU
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>>69998513
Yeah, I thought you were talking about recent polls that are factored into the RCP average.
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>>69998586
Yes, Trump rallies and him defending his stance on things. We'll see tonight. I personally expect a Missouri 2.0.
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>>69998796
It's pretty hard to spin last week as favoring Trump. I hope you're right though.
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>>69989478
>http://www.politico.com/


Has now become the shill source for the GOP establishment
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>>69998438
The psychology here is simple:
1. Women in general dislike Trump (according to the popular press at least).
>but Republican women DETEST Hillary so it is defensible to vote for Trump
2. Moderate male Democrats dislike for whatever reason (likely just personality in many cases)
>but they know full well Hillary would be a disaster as president
>vote quietly for Trump and publicly decry those traitorous men who voted against Hillary

The brain is a funny thing, and capable of some truly imaginative gymnastics.
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>>69998613
Where did I say it would make a difference?
>>69998637
Does a picture of the Milwaukee skyline work faggot?
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>>69989563
>straya
>wants sanity
>lives in a sand blasted mad max apocalyptic hell scape
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>>69998896
>TRUMP HAS WORST WEEK EVER
>TRUMP IS NOW DOOMED
>TRUMP HAS DESTROYED HIS CAMPAIGN

Trump's numbers barely move
Yeah...
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>>69998613
Every vote counts man. We can't afford to be complacent. I'm in California and even though I know Hillary will win here in November I'm still gonna go out and do my civic duty. And obviously I'm gonna do my part to make sure Trump wins the primary here.
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>>69999068
Why are you trying to start a fight where there is no fundamental disagreement? I'm hopeful that Trump can still win Wisconsin. Maybe read the thread of my responses before making a knee-jerk reaction. I'll give you a hint, I was saying that polls that are almost two weeks old can't be used to gauge voter reaction of last weeks events.
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>>69998935
>Does a picture of the Milwaukee skyline work faggot?

Your Skyline is pure shit.
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>>69998935
with timestamp you cuck
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>>69999303
>Not living in Based San Diego
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>>69999303

>compares an image taken in 5 seconds from a grimy apartment window with a professionally shot image

Trump fags? When will they ever learn?

>>69999391
Feel free to reverse image search.
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>>69990337
PAfag here. Registered libertarian and I know we have a closed primary. Is it too late to switch party affiliation?
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>>69992068
18 is actually
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>>69998896
It was bad, but not horrible. He firmly stood his ground against the smears and while he probably didn't gain much, he kept what he had.
It'll be fine. A close win by Cruz, maybe by Trump. Don't expect more than 2% difference.
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>>69989598
Embarrassing.jpg
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>>69989563
>>69989598
In a strange way, I appreciate this meme. It kills the shills.
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>>69990650
Going against the /pol/ hivemind isn't what makes you retarded. Supporting Communists is.
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>>69999481
yeah, monday was the last day. thanks for being a fucking lazy faggot
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>>69989478
Wisconsin was always expected to either be close or a loss for Trump.

No big deal.

It's not winner take all.
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>>70000964
Shh, don't trigger him, he'll make a smug passive-aggressive reply (with an anime gif to show how much of an oldfag he is, of course).
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>>70002643

Don't you have the Hagia Sophia to clean or something?
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>>69991574
Here (You) go
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>>69989598
OY! Same faggin' are ya?
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>>69989563
>>69989598
>>69991258
>>69994729
Canada needs to come defend themselves.
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>>69997012
Stop this fucking Paul Ryan shilling, trump supporters aren't just going to accept getting cucked. I'll vote Hillary or not vote at all
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>>69997144
Fucking shills I swear
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>>70000000
KEK HAS SPOKEN
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>tfw voted for kasich
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